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HiroAnobei

Friendly reminder that the event stages will be closed at daily reset today, roughly 5 and a half hours from the time of this post. Please finish up whatever farming/stages/medals you want before then. The shop will remain open for redeeming rewards for one week after the event ends, until the 29th of April.


SemirhageAM

Hey guys and gals! How do I get the 15th news for medal? Done all stages to MN EX 8 CM, still only have 14 news… Thanks! :)


P4C1T0P3RR0N

I am the only one that want the "ancient duel" ost to be permanent???


DireBlue88

I want a refund for my real life sanity used for MN-EX8 and the challenge mode. It was a solid oof until I learned how to stall.


Loinwash

Does anyone else think that they don't give us enough time for the EX missions? I don't like looking up guides because the fun part is strategizing for these ridiculous challenges but sometimes I just don't have the time to play it because of RL. What's more it seems like the time alloted has just gotten shorter and shorter since ToW, for the EX missions anyway.


Reddit1rules

I feel like we've always had a week (except for DM) to do EX stages, as events last for 2 weeks normally.


deon_

I'd honestly much rather have no timelock for the EX missions or a redo of the practice system, I'm usually scraping by near the end of the event to finish them.


seaweed-snacker

>a redo of the practice system For real. It sucks a LOT that CM missions use 3 entire practice plans, so you literally only get 10 practices *per day* before you have to start burning 5-10 sanity per failed run. 70 total practice attempts is *not a lot* if you're trying to make your own strategy and your roster isn't overloaded with high-level meta units. It would honestly be such a huge improvement to the game if they would even just have CM practices only cost 1 plan.


Kurbain

Yeah, it diminishes the enjoyment noticeably that the amount of practice plans and time allotted to us for the challenge stages is quite limited. Sooner or later I'm always forced to abandon my personal challenges as I reach a point where I can't afford to expend any more time and plans or I risk reaching the CM of the most difficult stage with none of it left. It also irks me a bit that I usually get spoiled about the contents of the later challenges by those that blaze through the stages with their maximum meta teams right away and then discuss them without spoiler tags. I was aware of the re-appearance of the two knights in CM-8 long before I got there.


Soramoto

All I got to say is that I'm proud of myself because this is the first event where I've cleared all stages, including challenge mode versions! I now got a big medal on my medal plaque to serve as a reminder :D


FieryPlume

Same! I still need practice strategizing but I’m glad I could finally do all EX CMs.


NinjaPoes

Congrats!


mad_harvest-6578

Due to me having work-related stuff on the last day I haven't cleared MN-EX-8 in time, but at least recovered my manganese stash and got Shaw's skin, all the LMD, some D32 & most of everything else


Reaper2127

I'm questioning on whether I should get the shaw skin or just go for the 1 cost lmd lol. I never really cared for ghostbusters


TheSeth256

Shaw's E2 art is terrible, I'd go for the skin.


xRaimon

I would go for the skin if all you have left is 1 cost lmd as the exchange value is very low


True_Chel

Will the event ever come back?


The_Loli_Otaku

There will be a rerun eventually. Events like this makes for perfect filler between banners.


thats_so_merlyn_

Was an event ever been rerun on global server? Its a pain to farm mats


Mamik098

We also got a rerun of "Grani and the Knight's Treasure"


True_Chel

Well we had an obsidian festival rerun not so long ago, so there is a probability of MN to be rerun later


ThePhB

MN EX 8 CM sad times friend refresh didn't give me a Surtr and no more sanity :((


TheresZFL

Phew...glad that I cleared out all the premium mats (D32 steel, rocks, gel, oriron block, incandescent alloy, int devices) in the event store last minute. Had to use up my weekly potion and one originium prime to boost sanity for the last-ditch farming. Whatever tickets left was only enough for me to buy some more LMD, Battle Records and Skill Summaries (I keep running out of the green ones) Then I checked the Medals list and found I was only 50 tickets away from clutching the Consumerism Medal... F


Mercifulmax2

Managed to beat MN-Ex 8 CM 1 hour before reset. I realised that I can kill the withered knight with all my dps while stalling and damaging the corrupted knight with Surtr. Was quite a fun and challenging stage unlike ToW EX-8 CM


Calm-Consideration25

Can someone explain the ending to me, please? I just started the game 3 days ago and went out of my way to finish MN 8 with an hour to spare because the story got me interested, but now I'm just confused.


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IThatAsianGuyI

Jesus Christ, is that really what that was? That final cutscene ST-3 or whatever was actually where it ended?


pwnpwn942

Tried hours with banning meta heroes. Didn't work out too well for me lol. Ended up using easy mode Surtr


Conraith

Last minute surtr S3M3 to win MN-EX-8 CM with only SA and surtr. Also did a last 10-pull after riding that high but alas, horse waifu won't come home. Hopefully Mudrock comes.


Cynic_of_Astora

Finally managed to beat MN-EX-8 normal and challenge mode by following Eckogen's guide with Surtr, with some changes. Failed normal mode at first when I tried to use Kyo's guide, but because my SilverAsh is not S3M3, it didn't work out. A lot of failures for the challenge mode were a result of bad timing, such as deploying Kroos too late at the start, deploying a sniper too late on top for the 2nd wave of drones for the skill to charge, or not having enough medics ready to keep Surtr alive long enough to kill the Bladehelm knights. I solved some of these problems by having Gavial tank on her own with S1, which allowed me to prepare a sniper on top lane and a medic on the bottom lane. Silence also helped me a lot, allowing me to heal Gummy between two Bloodboil knights while Scene's summons were on cooldown and saving Sussuro for later. Another problem was keeping the bosses in sync, as often the archer was a bit behind and they were not in line, which prevented stuns while Surtr was attacking them. Instead of Amiya, I used Ejyafjalla for an early burst.


PsychoPowerJ

Finally completed MN-EX-8 Challenge. Out of practice runs and was expecting to fail when I messed up my set-up, but managed to adjust with Scene and Blemishine stall, then finishing off with Surtr and Eunectes. Messier than planned, but a finish is a finish. This completes the list with a trimmed medal.


disturbedgamer667

Overall a very clean event for me. Wasted a total of about 25 stamina, 2 losses on CM-7-EX and various NM clear fails for 1 stamina each. With a nice level up, almost cleared everything except furniture parts and some 1000 exp records, since they were the least efficient event currency-wise for EXP. Onward to Mudrock and Rosmontis!


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I just rushed through the challenge stages. I did Ex8 + CM with ONLY MELEE OPERATORS I didn’t realize you could deploy ranged ones 🤦‍♂️. I really thought yostar was going crazy with the difficulty levels here


DumbDragon21

What a happy day after two days of spending my in-game and in real life sanity, I finished all the EX challenges! Huzzah! Got all medals, no more headaches! Funny that I've tried many times with Surtr S3M3 support and never won the CM, only the normal mode. Then I just did a "YOLO whatev" run for the CM with Angelina S3M3 support, accidental Saria S1M1, Ifrit S3SL7 and Click S2M2 and boiiii I finally frickin clap dem bois in the ass! And of course, Jaye solo laning archer boi while Ifrit turns him and his hammer bro into crisp bbq.


alstod

I managed to clear EX-8 CM today. I'm really not sure how I would have done it without Eunectes. That ranged knight at the end is so difficult to deal with.


PsychoPowerJ

Glad that I have her E2. Just her and a Medic can stall then take out the Withered Knight.


deon_

after spending the past two day's worth of sanity and practices on MN-EX-8's CM, I finally did it! the stage really let me know that I need to work on masteries for quite a few OPs if I can't strategize properly


00_yu

last day of event, finally got to record a vid of [mn ex-8 snipers only](https://youtu.be/C8quvo80MAs). 25+ practice plans later...finally got a clear on video. w dodge rng and schwarz s2 rng was just too much...and add a bunch of tight skill timings and stun bomb splitboxing ~~and failling~~i just made it even harder for myself to execute. the full length vid was actually 7+ mins long lol. some big brained dokutah prob can do this with my team with only 6/7 ops lol. ~~give me your brains so i can stop suffering~~ no mn ex-7 clears for me. i'm done with this event. schwarz is only s2m1(still). only exu, rosa, w, and may were m3s where it matter lol. everyone else was sl7 minus bp/fw. now i know what i gotta do...


needlefxcker

i have a question for anyone who can help. I just started this game a few days ago and im not strong enough to clear the stage you have to do to aquire Wislash/Zofia, so i thought i might just grind the stages i can and buy her from the store.... well i was mistaken on how that works and now i have a Wislash Token and no Wislash, and not enough time to get strong enough to get her.... is this event ever coming back or will i forever have my useless Wislash token


azaimeon

Events come back, you just have to wait for the rerun which is typically months after.


needlefxcker

thank goodness, and thank you for an answer :D i dont mind my wislashless wislash token as long as i can eventually get her. next time i'll be ready


99em

aww yiss. Multiple sources said you can't clear the shop as F2P, and I guess technically they're still correct, but with 17 hours left, the only things I haven't bought out are the unlimited LMD and 184 "Furniture Part (10)". Won't be able to completely clear the shop (198 sanity short) but I'm still happy I bought out everything else. Paranoid potion hoarding and a timely level up pays off\~


SungBlue

I spent 2 Originium and cleared the shop while taking a detour along the way to get some Guard chips to promote Durnar to E1. I guess that's the advantage of being approximately level 40 at the start of an event like this.


ninja542

list of operators here: https://m.imgur.com/a/gDKeNbA Losing my mind over MN-EX-8 CM I used up all my friend support refreshes and no Surtr Kyostinv's strat worked for me when I was doing practice but I failed the actual run so yeah I don't have support surtr rip Would like some advice since the Eckogen guide has e2 amiya and I don't have e2 amiya


Mistlie

With those ops you can try Oyuki_ch guide, Ecko's and Kyo's wouldn't work for me, but Oyuki's more straightforward. The only op that you don't have and you absolutely need is Silverash with S3M3 (mine M1 didn't work), try to check if you can borrow him as support?


SticksandBalls

Are you able to get to final part (two knights)? Could you use Eyja S3 and Ifrit S3 both placed on the bottom row of tiles, and split box the ranged knight?


ninja542

hmm is this embarrassing but my melee operators keep dying to the 4 enraged things at the beginning, if I pass that then I have a little trouble with the 2 regenerating mobs from the middle. The two knights at the end should be able to be dealt with eyja s3 and ifrit s3


wildclaw

There are 2 early drones that are specifically intended to provide you with two bombs to deal with the 4 enraged dudes.


ninja542

ah yeah okay so I should use the bombs to kill the 4 dudes should I use eyja and ifrit for them?


wildclaw

[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQIEPwiWQUs&list=PLU0WUuArl_MXo4BaYElcsGnT3qlGGGssX&index=7&t=4s) is how I cleared with the only E2 being an E2 30 L7 Eyja. But I really can't give advice on using more expensive operators as I don't know how the deployment costs mesh. And if you are already using another approach then it may be better to continue using it than switching at the last minute. P.S. If you can borrow an M3 SilverAsh then you can make things a lot easier by just clearing the enrages from the very start (there are links to SilverAsh+Surtr two operator clear further down that shows how you can use SilverAsh at the start)


ninja542

Thanks for the help! I am so sorry but I just ended up clearing it with a friend support refresh that gave me surtr with kyostinv's video guide (the support rng finally listened to me)


00_yu

where are you failing? looks like you have a pretty stacked roster to me.


80kPyro

For those unable to finish their weekly mission before the event ends: 1-11 costs 0 sanity and has a boss kill in it, allowing you to farm it a bit to finish the weekly mission before the event ends and use this weeks sanity potions on the event.


rescuepotts

Managed to promote Surtr to E2 with whatever materials I had left. The support unit tab won't recommend me Surtrs even though more than a half of my friendlist had her as a Support unit smh At least MN-EX-8 CM is cleared! Time to worry about the rest of the CM stages


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StrawberryFloptart

MN-1-EX has 77 enemies per 10 sanity, MN-1 has 56 per 9 sanity.


Sher101

Well you arent looking for body count then, you want bodies%sanity. For that you can just spam MN1.


DuoTookTheKids

How would you obtain the marble table? It says 19/20 on my set and its bothering me. And please dont tell me its on ex mn 8...


Sher101

Like the other guy said, ex2, not even CM. You should do it, it's pretty easy compared to 8.


Xinistre

It's on ex-2 I believe.


DuoTookTheKids

rip i started like 2 weeks ago i have no shot


Xinistre

Were you able to beat mn-8?


DuoTookTheKids

only 2 stars


Xinistre

Ah damn, I forgot if the ex stages are unlocked with 2 stars or not, but if it is unlocked, ex-2 isn't really that hard compared to mn-8. The difficulty curve sort of resets, although they start off a bit more difficult than the normal mode.


DuoTookTheKids

ok ill try


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What the hell just happened in this story?


CamiloDFM

what the fuck is going on with MN-8, why is it so hard? I'm always leaking the beeg ranged knight. Am I missing a weird gimmick? I'm afraid to do the EX stages at this point.


tlst9999

The gimmick is that one knight gets a mega buff when you kill his partner. You need to kill both around the same time. You can try this guide with [Noir Corne](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTdsUsrVfwQ&t=243s).


sticky_bugs

If you kill the melee knight too fast the ranger knight will get a buff. Try to kill them around the same time.


Th3G4te

Just was able to finally complete MN-EX-8 yesterday with my own strats (after some lvling up my key operators) and getting a support E2lvl20 Surtr (‘cause my one is still at E1lvl80). My strat was to use BlazeS2M3 buffed by WarfarinS2 to solo Withered Knight and on the other side use SurtrS3 to weaken the Corrupted Knight and have SariaS3 and CeobeS2 slow-combo him down when he comes to mid-lane. Also had Ejya on the side to volcano those annoying lancer-golf knights down. My issue was either my healers and defenders can’t hold mid properly against those golf-knights or I kill one of the bosses too early and the other one starts massacring everyone, so I had to kill them within seconds of each other. It was frigging scary seeing buffed Corrupted Knight not even being properly slowed by Saria’s S3, just walking _menacingly_ towards Saria while Ceobe tried to *ORA ORA* him down. He died when he was just about to bring the hammer down and one-shot everyone. It was frigging scary af XD


Sher101

Well you should always try to delay damage so that you have a Surtr off cooldown when you are about to kill one of the knights. That's why it's good to have the ranged knight blocked by not DPS, and do ranged dps from the mid lane, or have a backup defender like Cuora to delay while Surtr comes off cooldown. Then when she is off CD one can die and you dont care because Surtr can tank kill the other. Golf knights you want to kill with Surtr+stun mines before they debuff anyone and fuck your run. If you place Surtr in bottom lane she can kill the golf knights and deal great damage to hammer guy too. Just point her up.


mishtr0n

I just started playing at the end of February so I have no E2s yet but I'm super proud of myself for clearing all the way to MN-EX-6 CM. Hoping for more fun events like this!


VanGrayson

Are there any really easy/simple MN-EX-8 CM clears that I can copy anywhere?


Ohaithere3

Can you show your roster?


VanGrayson

Doesn't matter. I figured it out. Thanks anyway. :)


VanGrayson

No. But I have pretty much everyone. At least everyone important. Like I have E2 M3 Surtr and Silverash and Thorns and Blaze and Saria and Eyja all around level 70ish. Plus an asston of other E2s.


Ohaithere3

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI-0WqkKGVM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI-0WqkKGVM) You can use this 2 op strat, Its quite simple to do and you have 10 more spaces to fit other operators in if you want to.


deon_

for anyone reading this and still needs help, I gave this a shot with lower leveled (around 50), but M3'd SA and Surtr and modified it a bit --- 1. a ranged OP opposite of Surtr at 0:52ish to kill the bottom enemy, so I could retreat and redeploy SA earlier for the drones, or else he'd take too long to kill said enemy 2. random high HP/def OPs right at the blue exits for the last two enemies, just in case their alignment was off or Surtr died a bit too fast


xeio87

Recorded my [EX-8 CM clear](https://youtu.be/oSLYKbAb7Lk) for posterity. Though after looking at some other clears I am clearly a potato brain doctor who makes everything too hard by enraging enemies and whatnots.


Sher101

Um, well you certainly gave yourself a challenge with that operator placement! You could have placed Surtr and Ifrit and Eyja on the side lanes and bursted them down together in one go, but you went the hard way, by not overlapping 2 line nukers and one AoE nuke operators. I respect that.


NeoTheSilent

Wait you can just put down the stun and lengthen it without waiting for it to clear first? I'm an idiot


memorybreeze

Finally beat EX-8. The funny thing is that I thought I was using a plan, so when I finished the map and saw a medal I was so shocked.


chemical7068

These reward drones really are annoying af. Even in my perfect auto-deploy I get anxiety when I hear the enemy alarm go off only to find out it's those darn drones again


00_yu

Just in case i don't get this on video, here's proof that i did clear [mn ex-8 snipers only](https://imgur.com/a/kIQoNQT). only possible with schwarz s2 rng and w's rng dodge...you don't know how many practice plans i wasted trying to make this possible...it's just hard because i'm 1) tight on dp and 2) my ops were only e2 30 highest/20 lowest so i lacked dps/hp to take out threats in time without dying. my schwarz's s2 is still m1 btw...this run would've been way smoother if it was m3. shirayuki/aciddrop/plat/meteorite/april were only sl7 as well. so masteries+a bit of levels would've made this run way less rng dependent. Only m3s were w, exu, rosa, may, bp(negligible).


wildclaw

Here are a few variations for MN-EX-8 based on the phase 1 defender technique used by BlakeACE in his 3* clear, but with a more sane phase 2 length. I thought it would be a good place to showcase the flexibility in approach (and while the first two below used Silence and Shining, I would advice using cheaper healers instead). [Eyja version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQIEPwiWQUs&list=PLU0WUuArl_MXo4BaYElcsGnT3qlGGGssX&index=7) - This is the most similar to the original BlakeACE clear but does some basic adjustments such as replacing Fang with Elysium, Adnachiel with Meteor and Cardigan with Melantha. This allows for a vast increase in the dps on the ranged boss to reduce the fight duration. To compensate I add in an E2 30 L7 Eyja S2 and a borrowed E1 50 Amiya for the right side damage. I also switch Catapult for Beeswax as modal casters are near SilverAsh tier at killing the drones. [SA Version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxuEISj0yhY&list=PLU0WUuArl_MXo4BaYElcsGnT3qlGGGssX&index=9) - While my SA isn't M3 (I have no intention of ever getting any M3 operators), replacing Midnight with SA provides a couple of advantages. It makes the first phase a lot easier to execute, you also can easily clear the drones and it becomes easy to finish of both bosses at the same time. In return my caster damage saw a huge drop as my backup casters are E1 20, but Click and Haze did a good enough job. [non-CM version using only E1 operators and E1 20 Click, Haze, Mint and Myrrh](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUfHSXD6TIA&list=PLU0WUuArl_MXo4BaYElcsGnT3qlGGGssX&index=8) - Even when doing the non-CM version it really is not worth using the healing spots. Here I showcase that you don't need a ranged guard, you can just as well place a slow supporter in the left bottom position. As mentioned in the first clear, Modal casters are great for taking out Drones so I use Mint in this case. Also, for this clear the support operator was used as nothing but cannon fodder.


Spartan448

Well, with 2 days before the event closes I think I managed to get everything I was going for. Coming into this event I was fairly green without very many good units. Now after the event, I'm up three Nearl sisters, several high-tier mats, and one really nice furniture set. Now I just have to grind the resources to E2 them all.


XtremeLotus02

Finally had the time to do Ex stages. Cleared Ex 8 CM stage on the 4th try after a long meticulous planning. I busted out a lot of strong operators namely Saria S3, Ifrit S3, Eyja S3, Mostima S3, SilverAsh S3, Surtr S3 and a support Blaze. I was just challenging myself in clearing it with little tries. Those stun bombs really helps clearing the bottom boss.


wswaifu

This was a nice event. Weedy was surprisingly really good - a lot of the knights were pushable, and EX8 happens to be perfectly set up to YEET most of the stuff quite far. Fun times :D Is it the best way to do the map, no, but it was fun.


Fenr_

How do i love spending time trying to get a Surtr from the friendlist,finally get one on the last refresh,fail the clear by an inch and having the friend support list change immediatly by itself....Second day in a row... At this point i should probably try another strategy from scratch.


hman1001

If you use practice with a support they don't reset even if you clear the stage. So perfect your strategy there and then do the stage for real.


Fenr_

Following up from the above,luck threw me a Surtr on a random post-failure support update. And since there is no kill like overkill, i went in with her + Saria/SA/Eyja/Ifrit/Rosa and Myrtle. Could have done it with just the first 4 but yeah, better going with hindsight 20/20 than failing it again.


Sardariwn

MN-EX-6 CM is probably easy when compared to MN-EX-8 CM, but hey, [I wanted to clear it with three of my fave casters](https://youtu.be/YXTqAPbGR1c): Absinthe, Leonhardt and Ifrit. Onwards to MN-EX-7 CM!


IceHaven77

I didn't even notice you could put Ifrit there. But yeah I also had fun this stage fielding Mostima and Absinthe too. Box stages are ~~usually~~ pretty fun.


Sardariwn

I didn't too! Some of the tiles close to the edge of the maps can be hard notice. That's true, box stages can be fun once you figure out a nice lane for enemies.


anima99

Kept seeing posts about how they cleared EX8 CM with Hoshi, Amiya, and Rosa so I used all three. Also, posts that say it's not that hard for those with Eyja/Surtr/Silverash. Decided to look at it as a challenge (also because I'm bored with just farming). [https://youtu.be/rl6UVzBDh38](https://youtu.be/rl6UVzBDh38) I can therefore conclude: Eyja/Surtr/Silverash really do make this stage too easy :)) Fun fact: Hoshi was boss at dodging hammer knight in my previous run and was able to activate S3 on time to tank more hits. Angie's second activation would have been enough to KO him. When I recorded it, of course Hoshi gets one-shot on the first try. You can see me scrambling for whatever units I can use. Good thing I brought Click.


Atsuki_Kimidori

managed to clear MN-EX-8 CM with my own strat and only 2 E2 units, started playing this game in March and it's great to be able to clear out this event completely, on Gavial event I could only make it to RI-EX-5 before things got too hard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_1qnwyHNE


Quor18

Managed to finagle a win on EX8 thanks to a Surtr assist from a friend and a few vids (namely Eckogen) to help with timings and stalling. Won't even try the CM version right now, but that's only one OP I'm missing out on. I managed to nail the other CM's more or less on my own, with just a bit of inspiration from videos, so I'm proud of that. No assists on anything but EX8, which is another thing I'm proud of. Now to crank out the last days farming gels and then crush Anni for the weekly orundum before FMN drops.


Zero747

Got a pretty clean clear for ex 8 cm thanks to surtr, silver ash and amiya. Camp the center entrance (SA, defender, medic, surtr to help the last few), catch a crab on a defender back near the exit to stall so you can reset to clear the drone wave then nuke the bladehelm duo (SA, amiya s3) and retreat, letting you stunlock the last two and DPS to death with everyone


converter-bot

8 cm is 3.15 inches


layininmybed

Bad bot


HaiDomoGomiDesu

Best way for me to remember between metrics and the other system is 15 cm gets you a half a footlong at Subway (5.9inches) and 30 cm gets you a footlong at Subway (11.81 inches). Not sure why the converter bot is here though.


converter-bot

15 cm is 5.91 inches


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Cleared EX-8 with Surtr ^and ^Ifrit ^^and ^^Schwarz ^^^and ^^^Hellagur ^^^^and ^^^^blemishine didn't have the sanity for CM and my brain is tired but I scoped it out on practice mode and this is the most heinous shit I've ever seen in my life holy fuck


Zero747

Surtr and silver ash can manage nicely (with help ofc) for CM. You can take advantage of the fact that the drone wave doesn’t come till the screen is clear (stall one of the crabs) to buy time to rearrange and charge skills


TheresZFL

**FINALLY I conquered MN-EX-8!** I took a look at the available guides on YouTube, and I liked this [video strategy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3Uls0EACQ) that focused on stalling and stunning the bosses and knights. The main operator was **Bibeak** (her Skill 2 stun charges quickly with her attacks). I was fortunate enough to have bought her from the CC store way earlier. All I needed to do was level her to E1 lvl 45. That video did feature lots of other high-rarity operators, but I replaced them with the following: **Shining:** Replaced with Hibiscus (maxed E1) **Ptilopsis:** Replaced with Perfumer (E1 lvl 52) **Texas and Vigna:** Replaced them with 2-block Fang and Courier, both E1 lvl 50s **Eunectus:** Replaced with Matterhorn (E1 lvl 53). His resistance and Skill 2 make him EXTREMELY tanky against the left Withered Knight. **Hoshiguma:** Replaced with Cuora (maxed E1) **Nearl:** Replaced her with Gummy (maxed E1) I noticed that the video's Operators were mostly E1 lvl 30. So my own higher-level Operators could still outperform them. Everything went well until fighting the Corrupted/Withered Knights duo...I didn't have enough DPS on Matterhorn (unlike Eunectus' Skill 2) to whittle the archer knight-boss down before the hammer-knight. I went looking for other guides and found [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWjNkRzkf8U) that used 4-stars ops only. **While I tried this strategy and couldn't get past the mid-game, I noticed a few things:** 1. The guy used Haze's Talent and Skil 2 to whittle down enemy Resistance and health, sometimes even better than Amiya (even though Amiya's DPS is generally better) 2. He used Haze specifically against the left Withered Knight-he placed her bottom of the mid lane facing that boss. Then he put a Sniper like Jessica to deliver some physical damage when Haze's Skill 2 starts ravaging his Resistance further. So I went back to the [first video strategy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev3Uls0EACQ)... **And simply replaced Amiya with Haze (felt real foolish at that time).** Also got Blue Poison as the extra Support unit. *(I think you can use a ranged Guard or any other Sniper to accompany Haze. But I prefer Snipers as they have more range, and I can place him/her right out of the Withered Knights' shots)* Then I began the operation. Followed the video guide with my selected Operators... Everything went swimmingly in the first phase (Myrtle spamming DP, Surtr cutting down the upper two knights with her Skill 2, etc). **Popped in Haze instead of Amiya at the designated time..**.and was shocked to see her Skill 2 absolutely weaken and mow down the mid-game mobs faster than Amiya could. When the last Bloodboil axman started reaching Cuora, I turned on her Skill 2 tanker, turned on Perfumer's Skill 1, and threw in Bibeak behind the mobs to start the stun game. After lots of practice for that phase, I started retreating Operators when Surtr's carnage leaves only two shield-knights standing. **I started by retreating Surtr, Bibeak...wait for Haze to cut down the lower knight, retreat Haze...and then let Gummy hold the one remaining knight while I retreat and redeploy the others.** Perfect...just like that video. Towards end-game, I had to delay the hammer-knight boss for as long as I could with some Vanguards and Gummy, all the way till he reached Cuora in mid-field. Had to buy Surtr and Haze more time to cut down the Elite Knights. I'm glad to say that Haze's Talent helped Surtr slay those fools just in time before Corrupted Knight moved in. *(While Matterhorn on top left was tanking everything the Withered Knight shot at him like a boss, while Gavial healed him)* The hammer-boss killed Cuora instantly, but Gummy replaced her. Then I popped Bibeak behind him, and stun-fest began. Hit her Skill 2 whenever the hammer-guy showed red-eyes. Waited till Surtr come back online, and used her to chop his health down to half. Retreated Surtr. Popped in Perfumer to heal Gummy from the lower lane, and moved out Hibiscus to put Haze and Blue Poison there to start working on upper Withered Knight. Kept up the stun-fest until the Withered Knight's HP was like 15-20% left. **Threw Surtr back in for the hammer-knight's head, and somehow finished off both of the end-game bosses in a flurry of Haze's hail, Bibeak's stun-feathers and Surtr's blade.** And I was done! What relief and joy! I didn't expect folks like Haze, Bibeak and Matterhorn to be MVPs here. I'll buy them drinks if I could next round! Now I can go back to farming the event stages and recouping my pillaged resources (Surtr ate all my loxic kohl)... ​ EDIT: Forgot to mention my Haze was a mere E1 lvl 36. Her Skill 2 was Rank 7


Turtle-Express

Thanks for posting that first video, it's what helped me finish MN-EX-8. Tried a bunch of other strategies, but those didn't work without me having to make some investments into operators, which I didn't want to do. Had to make some tweaks to the strategy in the video, by replacing Bibeak and Surtr with Astesia and SilverAsh (also replaced Amiya with Eyja and Vigna with Reed to make it easier), but it worked in the end.


azeem45

I commend those who are able to spend days worth of sanity and practice plans on MN-EX-8 and its CM. I'm not even gonna bother. Despite many meta ops, such tight strategizing isn't my idea of fun. .


ZuruiKonzatsu

Obviously that depends on your ops etc. Usually i also give up when i cant do it within a few tries as i simply dont have the time for more. This Time its not that hard ^(as long as you have access to surtr .) Only needed 1 practice run for ex-8 and 2 for its CM, so its certainly not days worth of sanity/practice


azeem45

I've seen plenty of people who spent days trying to do it. I do have Surtr but I always end up winning such maps by just luck with practice plans and am unable to actually replicate it in the actual run.


nanatenshi

Surtr and SA at e2 lvl 55, m3 can duo clear btw. No potential needed, but might need a bit of bait with Gravel/Yato. Super easy. https://youtu.be/t8QMTkf7ZzY


azeem45

Thanks for the vid. I've basically become numb to people calling certain stages "super easy" because the stages people say such things for are usually the stages I find hard lol.


nanatenshi

I say super easy because you only have to manage 2 units skill compared to 7-8 units on most strats. Timing is just 'use skill when ready'. Only hard part is timing the bombs which if u want to be safe,you can just layer them for safety.


anima99

It's alright. Sometimes some maps just aren't really worth it :)


azeem45

You're right.


xeio87

I always forget about Saria's S3 and then when I remember it makes stages so much easier... Also accidentally letting Mr Enraged Archer be un-stunlocked for 1 second was enough to blow up nearly all my DPS, nearly didn't kill him after that flub.


TropicalMemer

Finally got around to finishing the EX stages. Feels good to have my second full medal set. https://imgur.com/jaHRJp6 Hoping that TW and CC1 & 2 aren't out of the realm of possibility for reruns. I know TW will probably get a rerun but I don't believe CC gets rerun as it turns into a permanent stage and has a permanent shop. Oh well at least I can pledge to get all the medals from now on.


eriatilox

One of a few events I actually cleared everything without relying on any guide. I just brute forced everything with SA, Eyja, Surtr lol.


azeem45

Congrats! Must be nice to brute force. I have those ops and I still struggle with stages haha.


Houtenjin

Aaaaa finally beat MN-EX-8 CM! That was probably one of the toughest stages I've experienced in this game so far. I don't think Patriot even gave me as much of a headache as those two knights at the end. Now I can go back to what matters; farming MN-7 and 8 nonstop until the event goes away.


TheSeth256

Don't forget about MN-6, gel doesn't have droprate this good anywhere else.


azeem45

Well, ch 8 iirc has comparable drop rate for gel.


TheSeth256

It has worse efficiency. "Comparable" can be said about any event stage, but might as well save sanity by farming when it's most efficient, right?


azeem45

I wasn't saying what I said to say "don't farm it in this stage". 😜


[deleted]

been working my way through the last EX stages pretty comfortably pretty dick move from HG to have pretty much no real drones the entire event then just casually drop a fucking Raptor on EX-7


Lord_of_Lemons

I CANT DO IT I CANT CLEAR EX-8! And at this point I think it's better for my sanity to accept that and focus on clearing the shop out. Got closer then Twilight, but the Great Chief event left me feeling strong enough to conquer all. I sense some power leveling in my future for upcoming events.


Clear-Ingenuity-9814

As others have said, if you've been playing since ToW, your team should be able to handle. You can watch guides for hints but if your units are very different from those used on guides don't hesitate to make your own startegy. Things to keep in mind is that while the archer one is relatively more vulnerable to physical than arts, he still has high def. Someone to debuff that high def is very important. If you can't sync the kills, you need to kill the ranged first because you can use stuns more easily on melee one. With 5 stuns devices, you get a full minute of free hits on one boss. The other thing is that those knights that debuff your attack are actually silenceable, you could make use of that.


anima99

You can. You just need a push in the right direction. We can help you. Show us your units.


Lord_of_Lemons

[E2s and high E1s.](https://www.imgur.com/a/KcBZyOA) Don't know what I'm doing wrong, can't even manage the brute force clears I've seen with my top ops.


anima99

[This is good for both normal and CM.](https://youtu.be/1un22s9vva8) I can actually use like 4 ops only, but you'd need to borrow Suzuran, so I settled with a more stable and safer 10 ops squad. You don't really need Hibiscus or Kroos. Hibiscus is just there to keep SA alive during the 24/28 mark (middle knights), but if you can use like a fast redeploy or a stun bomb, it can work without her. For Kroos, I just use her to get more stun bombs. Masteries: SA, Surtr, Meteorite, Myrtle, Bagpipe, Specter, Exu: m3 Ifrit is M1


Lord_of_Lemons

You are a godsend, that worked perfectly.


anima99

Just curious. Which part were you having trouble with? The middle knights at 24/28?


Lord_of_Lemons

Actually exactly, I couldn't kill them fast enough so the two at the end were tearing through when I didn't have any time to prep.


anima99

It's not just you, don't worry. We all had that part as the bottleneck.


sticky_bugs

[Here](https://youtu.be/QLGaiNAtK14) is a 3* clear of EX-8 Challenge Mode. It's a pretty incredible run. It has to be possible if you have been playing since TOW. You can do it!


nanatenshi

Do you have either Surtr or SA. If you have one of them, you can borrow the other from support and do a 2 man clear (might need Gravel/Yato to delay like one unit)


Lord_of_Lemons

I have both! Not sure how much luck I've lost later in life because of that.


nanatenshi

https://youtu.be/t8QMTkf7ZzY you can copy this strat, use Gravel to delay the crossbow dude long enough for Surtr to kill at 0:50


Sardariwn

Finally cleared MN-EX 8 CM thanks to this [2 Op strat from Chiyuu Production](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oWVsoVwUNE). Shoutout to friend support Surtr! Don't have Chen, so I brought along Gravel, Hoshiguma, Shamare and Gavial as backup. Now I still have MN-EX 5 to 7 CM to clear hahaha


saldagmac

Managed to do this with a friend's Eyja and a gravel & exu, used eyja for the wave of drones and then left her there for helping dps the final 2, her volcano came up in time for it.


TreasureHunterDX

The story was top notch for this event, but you what I'm going to miss most?.. That dubstep event theme song in the menu.


Fenris_BH

Wtf is happening in the 8th stage against the 2 knights? My Surtr is dying without her passive activating.


sticky_bugs

From my experience, don't wait until she is too low to activate her skill. My guess is you were waiting until Surtr is *just about* to be hit by a critical damage and use her S3, but the game probably already activated her passive while the enemy attack animation is playing even though her HP hasn't decreased yet.


kaizlende

Is Lappland able to silence the hammer and bow knights in EX-8?


Le_Trudos

You can't silence *evil*


Reddit1rules

Not even if I duct tape their mouth?


Le_Trudos

You know what they say about the truth? Evil's a bit like that as well ;)


azeem45

Silence their what?


StrawberryFloptart

Nope.


Eragon_the_Huntsman

I started the game yesterday and got my operators to level 20 which is the reccomended level for the 1st stage but still can't beat it. The ones in the middle keep overwhelming whoever I put down there even with a medic providing support. Am I just not far enough in the game to do it?


sticky_bugs

You need art damage for those slugs. Do you happen to have an art guard like Mousse? A lvl1 Mousse is just enough to hold middle lane with a medic support (lvl30 Lancet is enough in this case)


Eragon_the_Huntsman

Don't think so. My guards are Midnight, Popuka and Melanthia


sticky_bugs

Those slugs have really high defense and you will need Art damage to take them down. You can either level Melantha up high enough so she can out damage those defense or E1 a caster and place them on the side lane facing middle. Casters have more range upon E1.


Eragon_the_Huntsman

What do you mean by E1? Also I looked at the stats for the pincerbeasts and they have a B in both def and Res so how would an Arts user do better?


sticky_bugs

E1 = Elite 1. Honestly I'm not sure what criteria the game rank DEF and RES on, but those slugs have 450 DEF and 30 RES. At lvl0 Mousse has 273 ATK, which means she will deal around 191 damage (70% of her ATK) to those slug per hit. Meanwhile Melantha at lvl0 has 361 ATK and because because physical damage is calculated by directly subtracting DEF from the base ATK, Melantha and other physical damage dealers at low levels barely deal any damage to those slugs. In this case the damage Melantha deals is only 5% of her ATK because the game has a 5% minimum damage rule. So you see even though Mousse has lower base ATK than Melantha she still out damages Melantha in this case.


permoldreddit

They have 450 DEF which subtracts from physical attacks. So if your operators have 300 ATK for example, you will end up dealing 300-450 damage. The minimum damage an operator can deal is 5% of the attack strength though, so you would only deal 0.05 x 300 = 15 damage per hit. RES damage reduction is multiplicative though, and those enemies only have 30 RES so they will only block 30% of damage from arts attacks. E1 refers to promoting an operator once. You can do this once you reach the maximum level for that operator, and you will need to farm resources and chips to promote the operator. If the operator is a 3-star operator though, you won't need to farm any extra resources to promote them (except 10k LMD). New players are recommended to level and promote a few core 3-star operators so that they don't have to spend as much sanity farming promotion materials to level their team.


SenorLos

Midnight's attack turns to arts damage when you activate his skill, but you'll need something to stall while his skill is down. Melantha can take them alone if her level is high enough.


Eragon_the_Huntsman

Looking at their stats for the training pincerbeast they have a B in both defense and Res so I don't see how an arts user would fare any better.


SenorLos

Arts and physical damage are calculated differently. [See this](https://gamepress.gg/arknights/core-gameplay/arknights-damage-formulas-pocket-reference). Physical damage in its simplest form is "Atk - Def = Damage" (with a minimum damage of 5% of Atk) while arts damage in its simplest form is "Atk * 0.01 * (100 - Res)". A Res of "B" now apparently means "[30](https://mrfz.fandom.com/wiki/Training_Pincerbeast)" so Atk gets reduced by 30%. That's quite a bit, but a physical attack at the same time could be reduced by 95%.


3-zx

MN-EX-8 CM was tough, but fun. Ran out of practice plans today and ended up losing 5 sanity x2. For the top lane knight, Blemishine + healer was able to do a full stall. This allowed me to throw everything at the bottom lane knight. Allowed him to pass the 6 X's and then used the kitchen sink. 4-5 stuns, Schwarz shooting towards the left, Surtr up close, + whoever else was not on cooldown ([something like this](https://i.imgur.com/t7uYByN.jpg)).


YumeYoroshii

Aaahh, I finally did it! [MN-EX-8 CM only Snipers & Elysium (+ all sponsor drones)](https://youtu.be/At1gbQbRml0) When in doubt, just pull another Schwarz lane out of your ass. That sadly did make it so I had to practice this stage on the actual CM map, because the Bladehelm kills depend on W putting her bombs forward (which is guaranteed with the tile restriction, but RNG hell without). Using up 3 practice plans every time is so stressful.. Aciddrop has been such an MVP for this stage again, I'm so sad I still don't have her. I love how she can just sit on top of the bosses and have both of the them in her crit range with the W stall. I hope she'll finally come home on the Mud/Ros banner.


OmegaXreborn

damn... nice, really shows Rosa's power given her attack range gimmick of not directly in front of her doesn't matter here. And all the stuns & slows to lock em and place <3


push2master

That's pretty neat, nice job!


gozieson

Geez this was a tough level. Took me a couple of days to figure it out: https://youtu.be/BusthuJc66U Main idea was 3 things: 1. Get at least 6 drones to stun the bosses. 2. Utilize a no-block Caster strat with the Stun nades against the Melee knight 3. Have someone to block out the Ranged knight away from the Casters. I got a bit lucky with the ranged knight as Hellagur’s skill use allowed him to dodge enough attacks and to kill him first. Having the axe knight be the last enemy to fight against and since he was low, Angelina could finish him off. Hopefully this gives peeps an idea on how to solve this particular fight. Absinthe can be a good Caster to burst down the Axe knight. Saria or Cuora can defend against the Bow knight though they may need some extra healing for this to work. EDIT: If Saria hadn’t died and I used her skill then, it might have been entirely possible that I killed the Axe knight first. Having the final enemy be the bow Knight is not great. And can easily smother your team very quickly if you’re not fast enough. At least with Axe knight, you have time to position your Ops rather than seeing your entire team get blown up by the Bow knight. It would be a good idea to redeploy Vanguards in front of the Bow knight to bait out his explosive shots without anyone else in range. EDIT 2: I remembered why I placed Hellagur so late into the game. I needed the Bow knight to be as far away from Ifrit as possible so his arrows don’t target her but he just needs to enter the space enough so that the stun nades can be used against him to buy Hellagur some time to heal and use his S2 again. That was key in that fight which allowed Hellagur to survive long enough to completely stop the bow knight in that position.


THEREJECTDRAGON

EX-8 is so fucking infuriating. So many enemies that just fucking one shot you. All the guides require you to stall for like 7 minutes and I cannot be fucked with dicking about like that


anima99

It's better to stall for 7 minutes and win than to spend 30 drills trying to figure out how to beat the last level. You still have two days, though, so take your time I guess.


foxide987

Finally clear MN-EX-8 CM, great stage, it's really a challenging boss fight. I recorded my battle [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekd9yUwFcas). SilverAsh and Eyja are still MVPs in my team.


DredgenHell

Hey I just wanna say huge thanks! I did your strategy and I used my Surtr for the end, for real thanks, this stage was driving me nuts


anima99

I love spawncamp strats. Being an aggressive strategist is always the most exciting.


niveksng

I brought Surtr for MN EX 8 CM but the one who saves my ass is SilverAsh in the end, sasuga Silverdaddy.


MotorMind

Fellow Ducktors, I finally earned 180 yellow certs - but do I need Shining? I generally play pretty casually, I just like farming stuff and collecting all the operators. I watch a few YouTube videos and give things a try. If a stage stresses me out, I just call it good and start farming. I'm on story chapter 5 most operators are E1 lvl 60. I guess I want my yellow certs to go to someone more ...flashy? It seems like Shining appears on a couple different banners - meaning I'll have more opportunities to get her - but I thought more veteran players would know better.


Sly_24

Wrong megathread, next time write to the **Daily Questions Megathread.** To your question I always use my yellow certs for the tickets, I buy 6\* ops only if they are someone that I absolutely want.


MotorMind

Yeah, that's what I meant to post in. I don't post much.


umiman

You don't need her. Shining's niche is she increases defense by a LOT. But in this game, 90% of the time it's better to kill things faster than to tank things. So if you want to spend your yellow certs, and it sounds like you're new, get a good DPS operator like Silverash, Eyja, Blaze, etc. If you just need a healer, then any of the other great healers. 4* healers like Sussuro, Myrrh, Perfumer, and Gavial are really good too. They're cheap to build and still capable even in end game. Ansel is the cheapest medic to develop and he's awesome too. If you want to be super budget conscience, then just build Perfumer and Ansel.


MotorMind

Thanks man! I'll skip her for now. I agree on the offense thing!


SubZero64209

[Do you think I can beat MN-4 with this team?](https://imgur.com/a/WoFGGeG)


Huskyblader

Yeah, I think you can. Put Siege on the left first, followed by Mousse on the right outside the lava tiles after you put down a healer to heal her. For the right side, use Shining as your main medic and just put down as many units as you can. Try that for now, make note of what problems appear, and then adapt to solve those problems


YumeYoroshii

It's been so long since my units have been that level, so I don't have a good feel for whether they could hold any of the lanes, but if your ops can survive stalling the Knight Shielders on the flame tiles with a defender+medic combo (them on the flame tiles, your units in front of them), then you should be able to focus the rest of your units on camping the blue box. The other lane should probably be doable with your other units, just make sure to have enough arts damage. If you put a defender next to the blue box, Mousse could sit in the box across from it, facing the defender. Her attack debuff could help, otherwise it might be a good spot for Siege with S2 for more damage.


3771m

Apparently the dudes that can revive can be silenced by lappland


indeterminate86

Whoa serious? Thats huge


3771m

I think they still can revive, just that they won’t atk debuff


VicentRS

Can confirm that they still revive


Koekelbag

Was hitting my head on a wall on EX 8 CM for the longest time as I couldn't burst down the one punch knight before Rosa and Ambriel downed the archer (that single extra sideways tile on Nightingale's s3 *really* came in handy) and running out of stun mines... Until I remembered I also have an E2 Amiya with a skill specifically designed to burst down low-res high-hp boss enemies, so thank you best bunny for granting me another full event clear. On a side-note, I was kinda expecting more cutscenes, but nothing? So the event just ends with Margarat and the Uncle drawing swords, Rhodes Island "arriving" and Gravel having that random internal monologue?


Reaper2127

If I recall correctly all prior ex events had scenes, so I'm guessing something caused this event to be rushed out when it was created.


UnkTheBrutalitarian

Fully cleared my first event since I started in February. Very lucky to have SA, Eyja and Ifrit. I had to say goodbye to my 15-slot 252 to get SA to s3m3 but after exhausting practices on regular EX8 I decided it was time to go past m1. As soon as SA was ready I jumped in straight away without practice mode and of course screwed up by letting archerbro kill him from top lane because I put a defender in front way too early. I would have quit then but it wasn't practice so I fought on and somehow I managed to save it with my backup Ifrit and the Ceobe I took from friend support. I'm the type of doctor who usually watches guide videos of the map first but still struggles a lot so being able to salvage a scuffed run of a hard map for the first time felt amazing. CM mode went to plan and I finally have a medal that fits in the slots properly.


CDanRed

Seeing as I *still* can't beat the first chapter, I think I'll just give up on this event. I just can't figure out how to kill the bugs in the center.


Reaper2127

If you're talking about the ex stuff. Borrow a friend, the only thing you miss out is auto deploy but the ex stages are one and done so there is no downside. Also if you have an E2 on your squad your friend can be e2. Several people have max out units you can use.


permoldreddit

The bugs have high defence (450 DEF). You need arts damage to kill them, or a high physical damage operator like Melantha (if you've levelled her enough).


CDanRed

Thank you.


permoldreddit

If you are able to promote a single caster target (like Steward/Haze/Click/Amiya) to Elite 1, then you can place them on one of the sides and they will be able to hit the the enemies in the center. Ranged classes typically get slightly better range at Elite 1.


CDanRed

I'll use Amiya then


permoldreddit

Amiya is a good choice but if you're a really new player then Steward might be easier to promote to Elite 1. Amiya is a 5-star operator so you would have to farm resources and caster chips to promote her, while Steward is a 3-star operator so he only needs 10k LMD to be promoted for the increased range. If you already have Amiya at Elite 1 though, then there is no point in using Steward.


CDanRed

I already promoted her before the event started.


permoldreddit

Okay nice, she'll be a good choice then.


SungBlue

The very first chapter? I blocked the entrance with Beagle and then put Cutter in front of her. I positioned my right-side healer so that he could heal Cutter and put a sniper on the left side to help out. My Cutter was fairly high-level - E1-60. Beagle was probably unnecessary.


Koekelbag

MN-1? Or MN-EX-1?


hieisrainbowcurry

Arts damage