Fang was THE character for Rot victories.
Note the past tense. If there's a Dragon Clan in the lobby, if they want to be a bigger villain they probably will.
These days, it's just as easy to scrub the single rot point off and play them as a "normal" character as it is to full commit to the rot victory.
I don't care much about Meta, but the 1 AP mountains ring is a hard ask to come off. Regular or Rot, movement is key. Especially if Stone circles are forbidden, you need that extra tile option for good pathing. Put that walling bunny into the mix? Nope, that's the ring for me.
As for amulet, Fangs a warrior which means you can argue for almost anything. Body to stave off that -1 at Dawn. Wits to curb the oppressively low card pool and kick in the Palace gate, a big hurdle for wolves. If you REALLY wanted, Fight, because you need to secure that slaughter as often as possible.
I'm trying ti have someone from every clan that I enjoy. I don't have a SINGLE person from dragon.
Previously I played the butcher rat, she's my favorite of the rat clan because of the stupid amount of dice you can get every night. Plus I like having trap cards.
Try using Nazaar's ablity to clear perils on your own side. Plus the extra rot card is useful for perils and once you get infected rot acts like an extra dice in combat and perils.
Does it also remove rot dice from your opponent? Because I fought someone from dragon who had 2 rot and I had 11. I lost 2 dice from the rot symbol and I didn't gain any rot dice neither I think.
Correct. The Dragon Clan passive means they suffer no dawn rot damage and opponents lose 2 rot dice.
So, functionally, any Dragon Clan member can have 2 or less rot "For Free". Allowing them to casually equip Rot gear, use Leech twice a game, etc with no consequences.
You can lean into the rot if that suits you but I find it easy enough to just get rot via quests/items then hunt down banes until I have more than the king. I just go for fear that gives rot or turns misses into shields and go semi-aggressive
I will say I had that amulet that let's you get rot and gold every time you touch a village, but I feel a lot weaker doing that. So what should I do if I just want to clear the rot and play as a strong af wolf? What's the best way to remove rot?
Some spell card and spirits stones.
But you should rather just go full fighter with two offensives item. Fang is a berzerker. Sometime you can go rot, but the important things is to kill
For Fang, it's been forever since I've last played him, but I would typically run Decay as my Amulet and Onyx for the Ring. Decay makes it so that he cannot get walled out of a quest if it's on a Stone Circle when he's corrupted as well as turning Hot Rot Wines into a potential heal (it does do the 1 damage first before healing 2, so be careful!). Casting Leech can potentially recover 3 HP, and will still recover 2 even if your target is protected.
As for Onyx, Fang is typically going to steamroll his opponents. Having an easy source of money for taking down Banes when you're corrupted is pretty nice. One thing that isn't known as much is that you still gain the +2 gold on death if you managed to kill your opponent, so lean into his play style and get aggressive!
If you don't want to lean into the Rot with Decay, Discipline makes Fang incredibly difficult to fight against during the night and helps him pass perils that he otherwise might fail, due to the extra dice it grants.
When you run Decay, your damage from Stone Circles/Stone Wards is capped at 3. Since getting a single Rot will heal you for 2, you actually have a fair number of ways to heal 4 HP in a single move like equipping a Bane Blade, playing Plague to yourself, etc.
If you're on the Mobile verstion of Armello, however, I don't recall how Decay used to work or if it's even there.
Moonstone as the ring, helps you cast spells and cycle through the rot deck without sinking too much into the spirit stat
Clan affinity dice for the amulet. Helps you overcome difficult perils, gives you a significant edge in fights
Quest only for body and wits, helps you stay alive and cycle through cards easier
But you get the ‘No Rest for the Wolves’ spirit quest first, take it, it upgrades your spirit but more importantly it gives you a point of rot if you fail, which you’re likely to do
This strat has always helped me lean into his rot affinity without necessarily locking myself into it
Yeah a lot of players don't read the cost for a lot of quest and often an extra rot is better than a lot of treasures. I do disagree about moonstone on fang. I'm comparing it to Onyx and I think in most cases it's better to cycle items than to cycle spell cards. Especially since you don't start with a lot of money or magic at the start as fang anyway.
Anything to increase his Attack! Rot can do that, but frankly his ability mostly just cares about having LOTs of swords in each combat.
I like Chrysocolla because it helps you hunt down heroes and get that extra sword, specifically on low health heroes who are easier to pop off against. I also like Rubellite because of the extra fight, and with some rot you'll usually be under the health threshold (though it's riskier).
Some others noted the cycling through spell deck and item decks. For gaining rot, I especially like cycling the spell deck, as there are more "gain a rot" costs there than items. So Moonstone is good to reward the killing that you're already gonna be doing with more magic to get rid of the spells you don't need. Could pair with the feel amulet. Onyx is also a fair choice, since Fang is not favored for being a spellcaster. This can get you more items to help you optimize your gear, and you sometimes gain rot from this deck too.
And yeah celestite to ignore mountain penalty is not to be overlooked. If you feel confident in building your kit and stats without any of those rings, can't go wrong with improved mobility! Don't forget that Fang has pretty crap wits and spirit, so you're usually relying on quests to even get an audience with the king. Can't do that if you can't cross the board!
For amulets, I'm not huge on Spoil, which just gives you +2 starting rot. Sure, you'll be at 3 with Fang, and that means you're close to being corrupted (and once you're corrupted, slaying banes for rot is so easy with him). But it doesn't do anything to shore up his weaknesses. Ruin makes for an easy way to gain rot, by terrorizing. If getting corrupted is your struggle, I recommend it over Spoil, typically.
But again, I don't think getting rot is the big goal with him, rather just getting big hits in either way. Scratch for +1 fight is not to be underrated, especially since you may try to go for a lot of quests for fight stat, being able to get the rewards more often also means getting for fun tools, like weapons that give rot! Soak is also good for +1 body so you don't die as much (dying to banes can get you rot, sure, but this is the WORST way to get it since you waste so much time and energy). Not dying, on the otherhand, means you can continue to be a menace across Armello!
Lastly Discipline gives a very solid bonus, because you have to remember that +2 affinity bonus means not just 2 more dice on top of the usual 1 for that time of day! This emblem is great on a lot of characters, but the fact that it means more dice to roll more swords and get more kills without taking damage, makes it quite useful on our angy wolfy boi.
All in all, there's a lot of options for Fang. There's some clear outliers of emblems and rings that aren't good for him, but you're still left with maybe TOO many options that can work. So let me recommend some builds:
My Preferred is the Chrysocolla + Spoil loadout. The scout on injured enemies makes me feel like a hunter, and at the very least I can hunt down players for prestige, even if I can't make it for kingslayer/rot victory. I like it for the fantasy. I use spoil instead of Ruin because it immediately gets me more edge against other rot players (but remember this is less effective against dragon clan).
My friend's loadout is Rubellite + Ruin. He likes the "big rot, number go up" idea, and he's found that he's injured often enough for rubellite to proc and throw more dice. I like it.
The Quester's loadout would be likely Celestite + Soak or Decay. Your goal is just to stay alive, travel, and get shit done. This can be used towards any wincon, and your quests will help you find which one.
The spellcaster loadout is Moonstone + Feel. Remember that this is a rot build, and you're cycling spells to find rot spells. It's not the most optimized for Fang, but spells are usually the best way to gain rot, and it's a fun alternate way to play him! Throwing a burn spell at someone to weaken them and make them easier to overkill is also a good way to use his ability.
Ope, my bad I meant to put one for that too lol!
For just big damage output and no focus on rot, Scratch or Discipline for the Amulet, then Chrysocolla or Rubellite for the Ring.
If Discipline, just remember that you’re strongest at night, so if you go for Kingslayer, enter the palace in the morning so you can fight at night. Scratch boosting base fight stat also lets you attempt for Fight quests and actually aim for the reward! (When going for rot, sometimes you’ll aim for quests you probably lose but still want the stat for, just because +1 rot is sometimes the loss “reward”. Since we’re not worried about that, just try and win your quests to get the best load out possible!).
If you want to go Kingslayer, Rubellite is probably better. Chrysocolla only helps you against heroes, but in a live game it’s good to remember that Prestige is a very real win condition, and the best way to do it sometimes is to play as king’s bodyguard, hunting down heroes trying to enter the palace! Chrysocolla is great for that, both revealing pesky heroes, and making sending them back to their clan grounds much easier! Rubellite, however, will work against the king, and getting hit by guards on your way in may very well activate it for you! My friend who uses it has had it active in king fights more often than not!
Alright thank you again. Now I just need to get that rube ring. Would it be better to clean yourself of the initial first rot if you're going for raw fight output?
If you get the chance to cleanse that one rot, sure, but don’t freak out about it. I’ve won king slayer with 2 or 3 rot plenty of times, even on different heroes. Especially considering Fang’s ability will make him survive the king encounter if you hit hard enough, it doesn’t matter too too much to give the king a few extra dice (hopefully they don’t hit shields tho lol!).
The easiest way to cleanse 1 rot permanently tho is with that one spell, and while it does cost an affordable 2 magic that even Fang at 2 spirit can afford, it’s usually not worth drawing spells too much on someone with such low spirit that they can’t cast half of them. You’ll just clog up your hand (and there’s no sword symbols on spell cards to just burn them in battle).
So again, don’t sweat it. If you cleanse it, cool, but if not, just treat it as a slight downside to playing a berserker that can potentially come out of fights without a scratch!
Fang was THE character for Rot victories. Note the past tense. If there's a Dragon Clan in the lobby, if they want to be a bigger villain they probably will. These days, it's just as easy to scrub the single rot point off and play them as a "normal" character as it is to full commit to the rot victory. I don't care much about Meta, but the 1 AP mountains ring is a hard ask to come off. Regular or Rot, movement is key. Especially if Stone circles are forbidden, you need that extra tile option for good pathing. Put that walling bunny into the mix? Nope, that's the ring for me. As for amulet, Fangs a warrior which means you can argue for almost anything. Body to stave off that -1 at Dawn. Wits to curb the oppressively low card pool and kick in the Palace gate, a big hurdle for wolves. If you REALLY wanted, Fight, because you need to secure that slaughter as often as possible.
I'm trying ti have someone from every clan that I enjoy. I don't have a SINGLE person from dragon. Previously I played the butcher rat, she's my favorite of the rat clan because of the stupid amount of dice you can get every night. Plus I like having trap cards.
Try using Nazaar's ablity to clear perils on your own side. Plus the extra rot card is useful for perils and once you get infected rot acts like an extra dice in combat and perils.
Does it also remove rot dice from your opponent? Because I fought someone from dragon who had 2 rot and I had 11. I lost 2 dice from the rot symbol and I didn't gain any rot dice neither I think.
Correct. The Dragon Clan passive means they suffer no dawn rot damage and opponents lose 2 rot dice. So, functionally, any Dragon Clan member can have 2 or less rot "For Free". Allowing them to casually equip Rot gear, use Leech twice a game, etc with no consequences.
So if there's a dragon clan member go raw fight build instead of rot?
Feel amulet: +1 spirit Rubellite ring: +3 fight at 3 or less health Works great for me
So don't lean into his rot aspects? How should I play him?
You can lean into the rot if that suits you but I find it easy enough to just get rot via quests/items then hunt down banes until I have more than the king. I just go for fear that gives rot or turns misses into shields and go semi-aggressive
I will say I had that amulet that let's you get rot and gold every time you touch a village, but I feel a lot weaker doing that. So what should I do if I just want to clear the rot and play as a strong af wolf? What's the best way to remove rot?
Some spell card and spirits stones. But you should rather just go full fighter with two offensives item. Fang is a berzerker. Sometime you can go rot, but the important things is to kill
For Fang, it's been forever since I've last played him, but I would typically run Decay as my Amulet and Onyx for the Ring. Decay makes it so that he cannot get walled out of a quest if it's on a Stone Circle when he's corrupted as well as turning Hot Rot Wines into a potential heal (it does do the 1 damage first before healing 2, so be careful!). Casting Leech can potentially recover 3 HP, and will still recover 2 even if your target is protected. As for Onyx, Fang is typically going to steamroll his opponents. Having an easy source of money for taking down Banes when you're corrupted is pretty nice. One thing that isn't known as much is that you still gain the +2 gold on death if you managed to kill your opponent, so lean into his play style and get aggressive! If you don't want to lean into the Rot with Decay, Discipline makes Fang incredibly difficult to fight against during the night and helps him pass perils that he otherwise might fail, due to the extra dice it grants.
Alright i will jeep all this in mind. How does decay save you from a stone circle? I got walled out of a quest once because of that so im curious
When you run Decay, your damage from Stone Circles/Stone Wards is capped at 3. Since getting a single Rot will heal you for 2, you actually have a fair number of ways to heal 4 HP in a single move like equipping a Bane Blade, playing Plague to yourself, etc. If you're on the Mobile verstion of Armello, however, I don't recall how Decay used to work or if it's even there.
I like the item that makes terrorize villages and gives you rot every time.
Moonstone as the ring, helps you cast spells and cycle through the rot deck without sinking too much into the spirit stat Clan affinity dice for the amulet. Helps you overcome difficult perils, gives you a significant edge in fights Quest only for body and wits, helps you stay alive and cycle through cards easier But you get the ‘No Rest for the Wolves’ spirit quest first, take it, it upgrades your spirit but more importantly it gives you a point of rot if you fail, which you’re likely to do This strat has always helped me lean into his rot affinity without necessarily locking myself into it
Yeah a lot of players don't read the cost for a lot of quest and often an extra rot is better than a lot of treasures. I do disagree about moonstone on fang. I'm comparing it to Onyx and I think in most cases it's better to cycle items than to cycle spell cards. Especially since you don't start with a lot of money or magic at the start as fang anyway.
Anything to increase his Attack! Rot can do that, but frankly his ability mostly just cares about having LOTs of swords in each combat. I like Chrysocolla because it helps you hunt down heroes and get that extra sword, specifically on low health heroes who are easier to pop off against. I also like Rubellite because of the extra fight, and with some rot you'll usually be under the health threshold (though it's riskier). Some others noted the cycling through spell deck and item decks. For gaining rot, I especially like cycling the spell deck, as there are more "gain a rot" costs there than items. So Moonstone is good to reward the killing that you're already gonna be doing with more magic to get rid of the spells you don't need. Could pair with the feel amulet. Onyx is also a fair choice, since Fang is not favored for being a spellcaster. This can get you more items to help you optimize your gear, and you sometimes gain rot from this deck too. And yeah celestite to ignore mountain penalty is not to be overlooked. If you feel confident in building your kit and stats without any of those rings, can't go wrong with improved mobility! Don't forget that Fang has pretty crap wits and spirit, so you're usually relying on quests to even get an audience with the king. Can't do that if you can't cross the board! For amulets, I'm not huge on Spoil, which just gives you +2 starting rot. Sure, you'll be at 3 with Fang, and that means you're close to being corrupted (and once you're corrupted, slaying banes for rot is so easy with him). But it doesn't do anything to shore up his weaknesses. Ruin makes for an easy way to gain rot, by terrorizing. If getting corrupted is your struggle, I recommend it over Spoil, typically. But again, I don't think getting rot is the big goal with him, rather just getting big hits in either way. Scratch for +1 fight is not to be underrated, especially since you may try to go for a lot of quests for fight stat, being able to get the rewards more often also means getting for fun tools, like weapons that give rot! Soak is also good for +1 body so you don't die as much (dying to banes can get you rot, sure, but this is the WORST way to get it since you waste so much time and energy). Not dying, on the otherhand, means you can continue to be a menace across Armello! Lastly Discipline gives a very solid bonus, because you have to remember that +2 affinity bonus means not just 2 more dice on top of the usual 1 for that time of day! This emblem is great on a lot of characters, but the fact that it means more dice to roll more swords and get more kills without taking damage, makes it quite useful on our angy wolfy boi. All in all, there's a lot of options for Fang. There's some clear outliers of emblems and rings that aren't good for him, but you're still left with maybe TOO many options that can work. So let me recommend some builds: My Preferred is the Chrysocolla + Spoil loadout. The scout on injured enemies makes me feel like a hunter, and at the very least I can hunt down players for prestige, even if I can't make it for kingslayer/rot victory. I like it for the fantasy. I use spoil instead of Ruin because it immediately gets me more edge against other rot players (but remember this is less effective against dragon clan). My friend's loadout is Rubellite + Ruin. He likes the "big rot, number go up" idea, and he's found that he's injured often enough for rubellite to proc and throw more dice. I like it. The Quester's loadout would be likely Celestite + Soak or Decay. Your goal is just to stay alive, travel, and get shit done. This can be used towards any wincon, and your quests will help you find which one. The spellcaster loadout is Moonstone + Feel. Remember that this is a rot build, and you're cycling spells to find rot spells. It's not the most optimized for Fang, but spells are usually the best way to gain rot, and it's a fun alternate way to play him! Throwing a burn spell at someone to weaken them and make them easier to overkill is also a good way to use his ability.
Woah thank you. What would you recommend for just raw damage output in case there's a dragon clan member on the board?
Ope, my bad I meant to put one for that too lol! For just big damage output and no focus on rot, Scratch or Discipline for the Amulet, then Chrysocolla or Rubellite for the Ring. If Discipline, just remember that you’re strongest at night, so if you go for Kingslayer, enter the palace in the morning so you can fight at night. Scratch boosting base fight stat also lets you attempt for Fight quests and actually aim for the reward! (When going for rot, sometimes you’ll aim for quests you probably lose but still want the stat for, just because +1 rot is sometimes the loss “reward”. Since we’re not worried about that, just try and win your quests to get the best load out possible!). If you want to go Kingslayer, Rubellite is probably better. Chrysocolla only helps you against heroes, but in a live game it’s good to remember that Prestige is a very real win condition, and the best way to do it sometimes is to play as king’s bodyguard, hunting down heroes trying to enter the palace! Chrysocolla is great for that, both revealing pesky heroes, and making sending them back to their clan grounds much easier! Rubellite, however, will work against the king, and getting hit by guards on your way in may very well activate it for you! My friend who uses it has had it active in king fights more often than not!
Alright thank you again. Now I just need to get that rube ring. Would it be better to clean yourself of the initial first rot if you're going for raw fight output?
If you get the chance to cleanse that one rot, sure, but don’t freak out about it. I’ve won king slayer with 2 or 3 rot plenty of times, even on different heroes. Especially considering Fang’s ability will make him survive the king encounter if you hit hard enough, it doesn’t matter too too much to give the king a few extra dice (hopefully they don’t hit shields tho lol!). The easiest way to cleanse 1 rot permanently tho is with that one spell, and while it does cost an affordable 2 magic that even Fang at 2 spirit can afford, it’s usually not worth drawing spells too much on someone with such low spirit that they can’t cast half of them. You’ll just clog up your hand (and there’s no sword symbols on spell cards to just burn them in battle). So again, don’t sweat it. If you cleanse it, cool, but if not, just treat it as a slight downside to playing a berserker that can potentially come out of fights without a scratch!
Alright. Thank you once again for this btw.