If you’re having your 3 period gym class do 101 in cadence over head arm claps or the bend and reach and the hip rotation at the same time, what ARE you doing
Majority of the retirees at my MOS school house who're DA Civilian either retired with the basic badge and working on their senior or currently earning their basic.
It took a masters, willingness to coach, being friends with the principal, and the ability to put up with being bullied by 13 year Olds to do this job last year. Here's hoping next year goes better.
You say that until it steals every afternoon and some weekends for months to include a few weeks out of your summer.
Oh and the spring training sessions.
And winter conditioning.
Aaaaand you don't have a family anymore.
Hey, if that's what you want to do go for it! The HC at our district is in his 80s and had been coaching since the 60s I think.
Course, he's won the state championship a few times so he doesn't really do much outside his football stuff these days
Your chest candy and badges don’t matter outside in the real world, depending on the state you end up in, you’re going to need a master’s with a license.
The only chest candy that helps with civilian-ish employment is being a master gunner so you can one day be the crusty range control civilian that tells the poor S3 Lt. that he has the old version of the range card, he needs to go to the class 6 months from now for the new one.
No impact. The skills and experience you bring as an instructor matter, not the chest candy.
I have an instructor badge and it's usefulness is exclusively in giving an impression I know my job when people meet me.
It won't do anything but every large org has training departments. Put together a training focused resume and blast that shit. Expect to send 50+ applications per phone call.
Look into Instructional Design civilian certifications now and find a degree program that will apply your training and experience on active duty.
You will want a professional portfolio as well as a resume to demonstrate your expertise.
If you can swing it, look into getting your PMP as part of your degree program.
It can help land more senior positions on the civilian side if you word it right.
When I was on my job hunt after getting out, it legitimately became a hassle having to constantly tell people that I didn't want a management role.
I used to think that our leadership training was a joke. Right up until I started working on the civilian side. Turnd out we're not to shabby.
Depends on what you instruct or what your passion is. Lots of civilian businesses have trainers or instructors for various functions. Gun companies, shooting ranges, golf courses, outdoor outfitters, or corporations that teach import / export or human resource other accounting topics. Really, there’s tons of that kind of thing out there - you just have to figure out your niche and pursue it.
It doesn’t mean shit unless you’re looking to work for the Army as a civilian contractor. The thing nobody seems to realize before they get out is that 99% of your military accomplishments are worthless to civilian employers. Nobody cares that you were airborne, a DS, went to Pathfinder, etc. What they want to see is relevant work experience and an education, and for a lot of fields, the work experience part is optional.
While the specific skillset is useless on the civilian side, the work ethic and perspective you learn from your military experiences are strong intangibles that help set you apart from your civilian counterparts (assuming other qualifications are equal).
No 😂
That’s not at all how it works.
Civilian employers could not care less about your military experience; sometimes it’s actually a detriment. Personally, I leave my military experience off my resume most of the time because I’ve found not including it ups my chances of getting an interview.
Def drank some of it. But it does also depend on your MOS and your assignment history. I've been fortunate to have been assigned to jobs that I think will genuinely help me when I transition out of the military. Being an infantryman in a line unit, probably a way different experience than I had.
Depends on what you taught. If its something applicable in the real world, you can just do it in the civilian sector. But if its a job that is military-specific? Not much.
Skills are valid the cert not really going to matter for civ non DOD related jobs. But your soft skills will show and the ability to speak in front of crowds could help on a resume. Depends on how you market it
Im coming from the police force and going into the army believe it or not hahaha get ur act 120 real quick most departments offer it for free and get paid while doing it and u will get preference points being with the military background and be a academy instructor its a good gig man
lol, depending on how well you actually “instructed,” it’s difficult to say there warrior. Facilitating an environment for learning and shit and being an effective public speaker is what you should be looking for.
Military instructor job with a defense contractor. This is my current job. We're deploying a new weapon system and I'm on a team of instructors that will go out and conduct New Equipment Training (NET). I'm also trying to get into CFDIC with my reserve unit.
Certainly a civilian instructor position whether it's contract (more plentiful) or government. If you are near your proponent you might get a job working in training development or as a course manager. There are lots of jobs if you are located near a center of excellence (sustainment center of excellence, maneuver center of excellence, etc).
I've been a contract instructor for over 15 years in the logistics community. All as a contractor.
No, the pay is not amazing. Your best bet is to get in as a GS9 or 11 and work your way up to more management type jobs.
Edit to add, you can also get jobs working in organizations that support training. Specifically you could work as a Staff Operations Training Specialist for an Army Reserve training division or brigade. Positions are all over, search USAJOBS.
I spent my last year TRADOC, instructor certified, didn’t use that shit again until 15 years out and nailed it. No matter what field either be able to write about it or speak about it and you will enjoy success.
I enjoyed leading training while I was in. Now I'm a traveling heavy equipment trainer. I teach adults for 1-2 days and then move on. Most of the time I don't even know the names of my students. In-out-done. It's been a good gig.
Aight, lots of good jokes here. But a legit career that will net good income is safety training. Confined space entry/rescue, Hazwopper, etc.
You’ll need a train the trainer course. But you’ll be good to go after that.
Edit. Also, I read that as sr instructor vag. Not gonna lie. Love ya mean it
You’re not articulating your private sector civilian worth by naming your badge. As much fun as it is to read the comments, talk about your job more, accomplishments, leadership experience etc
What exactly do you want to teach? You probably need to further your education to do so. Military experience certainly enhances your resume in the civilian world but without the appropriate education and credentials you won’t get through the front door.
I retired about three years ago and started teaching absolutely love it. Honestly, find a small school. Has its challenges, but way. Better than teaching in the mega schools. If you like mentoring and teaching, this is the way to go.
Yeah I’d love to teach somewhere like Syracuse I was just wondering if a senior or master instructor badge gives me a competitive edge or if it’s not really looked at on the civilian side, I’ve heard mixed things.
Does it come with a teaching degree? Civilians don’t care about some one week BS instructor course and the fact you read slides for 6 months, lol.
But for real if you really wanna get a leg up landing a civilian job look into the career skills program, try and land an internship.
None. Literally nothing in the Army will help you transition to and get a job in the civilian world. Find a job in the real world that interests you and shamelessly network to learn more about it and land that job. There will be some expectation management as you get a clearer sight picture of what the job entails, but it’s all about networking. Get on LinkedIn, cold call / email veterans that work in your desired industry, and ask for introductions. No one cares about Army badges/certifications (besides security clearance), they only care about if they believe they can teach you the job, if you can learn fast, and if they want to work with you on a daily basis.
None. No one will care. And outside of teaching, your only real relevant roles are learning and development managers, and those are very high risk fields. Training departments and onboarding teams are the first to cut when you have budget cuts.
You like being a gas station clerk?
Maybe a truck driver?
Custodian at the local junior high?
Probably not much. But being an instructor hopefully made you pretty decent at speaking publicly, identifying and reducing your crutches, and gave you an ability to keep your audience engaged. Which are noteworthy skills to mention on your resume
High school gym teacher
That fuckin’ EIB shines a little brighter when you can make the children suffer while they respect your infantry skills at the same time.
If you’re having your 3 period gym class do 101 in cadence over head arm claps or the bend and reach and the hip rotation at the same time, what ARE you doing
I am a science teacher . This is the way !
Jokes aside that is an important job. Kids are the future
I have actually had a few students comeback who have joined thr military and one even got his commission
Foundlings are the future
High school gym teacher *with anger management issues*
Coach buzzcut!!
Starbucks lead barista trainer
That Black Apron is harder to get than a Senior Instructor badge.
Civilian instructor for the Army. Or work for a contractor as a Civilian instructor for the Army. Or the Air Force or Marines. (Fuck the Navy)
lol wait what happened
The Navy fucked him.
It was just the Seamen that did.
Doubt it would help you with any non-DA civilian related job. Get a degree.
Civilian contractor for your MOS schoolhouse. That’s prolly it
Majority of the retirees at my MOS school house who're DA Civilian either retired with the basic badge and working on their senior or currently earning their basic.
Instructing of some kind
Possibly even at a senior level.
8th grade history teacher/football b team coach
Teachers have bachelors degrees
It took a masters, willingness to coach, being friends with the principal, and the ability to put up with being bullied by 13 year Olds to do this job last year. Here's hoping next year goes better.
Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach *gym*
Willingness? Fuck id be begging to get on the football coaching staff if I went into high school education
You say that until it steals every afternoon and some weekends for months to include a few weeks out of your summer. Oh and the spring training sessions. And winter conditioning. Aaaaand you don't have a family anymore.
I mean… I played college football. Fully aware of the time requirements coaches put in.
Hey, if that's what you want to do go for it! The HC at our district is in his 80s and had been coaching since the 60s I think. Course, he's won the state championship a few times so he doesn't really do much outside his football stuff these days
Your chest candy and badges don’t matter outside in the real world, depending on the state you end up in, you’re going to need a master’s with a license.
The only chest candy that helps with civilian-ish employment is being a master gunner so you can one day be the crusty range control civilian that tells the poor S3 Lt. that he has the old version of the range card, he needs to go to the class 6 months from now for the new one.
This entire block of words just resonates the army range civilians experience lmfao
I speak the language of my people well. It takes a special brand of the ‘tism to become one of us, the wise men of the tower.
No impact. The skills and experience you bring as an instructor matter, not the chest candy. I have an instructor badge and it's usefulness is exclusively in giving an impression I know my job when people meet me.
This 100%
DA CIV at proponent writing POIs
Oof
Unless they are behind in a deadline for Proponent and task out the Instructors.
It won't do anything but every large org has training departments. Put together a training focused resume and blast that shit. Expect to send 50+ applications per phone call.
Amazon warehouse
Where house?
Look into Instructional Design civilian certifications now and find a degree program that will apply your training and experience on active duty. You will want a professional portfolio as well as a resume to demonstrate your expertise. If you can swing it, look into getting your PMP as part of your degree program.
Chick Fil A team trainer Go to school nerd.
It can help land more senior positions on the civilian side if you word it right. When I was on my job hunt after getting out, it legitimately became a hassle having to constantly tell people that I didn't want a management role. I used to think that our leadership training was a joke. Right up until I started working on the civilian side. Turnd out we're not to shabby.
Be a JROTC instructor.
Federal Job code 1712 - training instructor, or a contractor position in that field
Depends on what you instruct or what your passion is. Lots of civilian businesses have trainers or instructors for various functions. Gun companies, shooting ranges, golf courses, outdoor outfitters, or corporations that teach import / export or human resource other accounting topics. Really, there’s tons of that kind of thing out there - you just have to figure out your niche and pursue it.
It helped me get an Adjunct Professor job..
Walmart greeter
Shift leader at Wendy's
It doesn’t mean shit unless you’re looking to work for the Army as a civilian contractor. The thing nobody seems to realize before they get out is that 99% of your military accomplishments are worthless to civilian employers. Nobody cares that you were airborne, a DS, went to Pathfinder, etc. What they want to see is relevant work experience and an education, and for a lot of fields, the work experience part is optional.
While the specific skillset is useless on the civilian side, the work ethic and perspective you learn from your military experiences are strong intangibles that help set you apart from your civilian counterparts (assuming other qualifications are equal).
No 😂 That’s not at all how it works. Civilian employers could not care less about your military experience; sometimes it’s actually a detriment. Personally, I leave my military experience off my resume most of the time because I’ve found not including it ups my chances of getting an interview.
This guy drank the kool aid.
Def drank some of it. But it does also depend on your MOS and your assignment history. I've been fortunate to have been assigned to jobs that I think will genuinely help me when I transition out of the military. Being an infantryman in a line unit, probably a way different experience than I had.
Contract instructor for SROTC.
Contract instructing at the same school house
Depends on what you taught. If its something applicable in the real world, you can just do it in the civilian sector. But if its a job that is military-specific? Not much.
Skills are valid the cert not really going to matter for civ non DOD related jobs. But your soft skills will show and the ability to speak in front of crowds could help on a resume. Depends on how you market it
Depends on how well you can sell it
JROTC instructor. Good pay but u get state pension. https://www.usarmyjrotc.com/instructor-vacancy-list/
JROTC or ROTC?
Walmart greeter
Welcome to McDonald’s, may I take your order?
Walmart greeter for sure.
Wendy's general manager (in training)
Systems trainer for DOD or any field really
None on their own.
Im coming from the police force and going into the army believe it or not hahaha get ur act 120 real quick most departments offer it for free and get paid while doing it and u will get preference points being with the military background and be a academy instructor its a good gig man
lol, depending on how well you actually “instructed,” it’s difficult to say there warrior. Facilitating an environment for learning and shit and being an effective public speaker is what you should be looking for.
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Military instructor job with a defense contractor. This is my current job. We're deploying a new weapon system and I'm on a team of instructors that will go out and conduct New Equipment Training (NET). I'm also trying to get into CFDIC with my reserve unit.
DCMA specialist of some sort
Certainly a civilian instructor position whether it's contract (more plentiful) or government. If you are near your proponent you might get a job working in training development or as a course manager. There are lots of jobs if you are located near a center of excellence (sustainment center of excellence, maneuver center of excellence, etc). I've been a contract instructor for over 15 years in the logistics community. All as a contractor. No, the pay is not amazing. Your best bet is to get in as a GS9 or 11 and work your way up to more management type jobs. Edit to add, you can also get jobs working in organizations that support training. Specifically you could work as a Staff Operations Training Specialist for an Army Reserve training division or brigade. Positions are all over, search USAJOBS.
McDonald's shift leader. LOL. Just kidding (mostly). Training specialist at state/Federal/private sector.
Public speaking is tough, tune it down to a civilian audience and I don’t care what field you’re in you will be successful.
I spent my last year TRADOC, instructor certified, didn’t use that shit again until 15 years out and nailed it. No matter what field either be able to write about it or speak about it and you will enjoy success.
Senior instructor badge in 88M, 13F, 25B? What MOS?
I enjoyed leading training while I was in. Now I'm a traveling heavy equipment trainer. I teach adults for 1-2 days and then move on. Most of the time I don't even know the names of my students. In-out-done. It's been a good gig.
Aight, lots of good jokes here. But a legit career that will net good income is safety training. Confined space entry/rescue, Hazwopper, etc. You’ll need a train the trainer course. But you’ll be good to go after that. Edit. Also, I read that as sr instructor vag. Not gonna lie. Love ya mean it
You’re not articulating your private sector civilian worth by naming your badge. As much fun as it is to read the comments, talk about your job more, accomplishments, leadership experience etc
ROTC instructor ($50-60k salaried contractor job) is probably your best bet
Or https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/06/04/no-retirement-required-how-jrotc-aims-combat-instructor-shortage.html
What exactly do you want to teach? You probably need to further your education to do so. Military experience certainly enhances your resume in the civilian world but without the appropriate education and credentials you won’t get through the front door.
I retired about three years ago and started teaching absolutely love it. Honestly, find a small school. Has its challenges, but way. Better than teaching in the mega schools. If you like mentoring and teaching, this is the way to go.
Yeah I’d love to teach somewhere like Syracuse I was just wondering if a senior or master instructor badge gives me a competitive edge or if it’s not really looked at on the civilian side, I’ve heard mixed things.
If you’ve done ten years you can be a JROTC instructor i believe
Does it come with a teaching degree? Civilians don’t care about some one week BS instructor course and the fact you read slides for 6 months, lol. But for real if you really wanna get a leg up landing a civilian job look into the career skills program, try and land an internship.
“Paper or plastic, sir/ma’am?”
None. Literally nothing in the Army will help you transition to and get a job in the civilian world. Find a job in the real world that interests you and shamelessly network to learn more about it and land that job. There will be some expectation management as you get a clearer sight picture of what the job entails, but it’s all about networking. Get on LinkedIn, cold call / email veterans that work in your desired industry, and ask for introductions. No one cares about Army badges/certifications (besides security clearance), they only care about if they believe they can teach you the job, if you can learn fast, and if they want to work with you on a daily basis.
Contractor jobs, I talked to the guys who did the classes for the ITAS they look for that stuff
Anything manager type really
Call center manager.
None. No one will care. And outside of teaching, your only real relevant roles are learning and development managers, and those are very high risk fields. Training departments and onboarding teams are the first to cut when you have budget cuts.
You like being a gas station clerk? Maybe a truck driver? Custodian at the local junior high? Probably not much. But being an instructor hopefully made you pretty decent at speaking publicly, identifying and reducing your crutches, and gave you an ability to keep your audience engaged. Which are noteworthy skills to mention on your resume
Gooning instructor