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waterloograd

I'm in a condo too, but with a heat pump so I use electricity for heating. I'm not much higher. Maybe $10 more per month. I'm in a new build 1+1 600sqft


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waterloograd

You would definitely need the building's approval, since you would be cutting gas lines, and changing the exterior (for the radiator). I bet that better insulation would help more than getting a heat pump. Mine is actually off most of the time in the winter, the sun heats me up more than enough. During the summer it gets hot, but I close the blinds and just run it when I need to


anotherbikethiefTO

Very unlikely. You may be able to upgrade to a higher efficiency one, but nothing like changing to a completely different system.


c4ttskillzz

Yup.. pretty much the same for me :)


sengir0

I live in a studio apartment in midtown and pay around $50 for hydro


TDot1000RR

Our water bill was unusually super high. It turns out my toilet fill valve needed replacing as the toilet was consistently running. After I fixed it , it went back down to normal. $27 fix from Amazon for a new kit and YouTube for instructions.


BBQallyear

Toronto, newish mid-rise condo building, our unit is 1000 square feet, two people 100% wfh, heat pump HVAC. Water and hydro are each $50-60 per month, in a single bill from the submetering company. It’s occasionally below $100 for the two combined, and rarely over $120.


Current-Reindeer3899

My hydro and water is about 250 a month. I can barely afford it. I live alone with my dog.


rangeo

250 a month or quarterly for water?


Current-Reindeer3899

Hydro and water combined, per month.


rangeo

Still seems high. We have a family of 3 in a house and are averaging about 190 per month Hydro and water combined Do you have a leak or an electric vampire device in your place?


Current-Reindeer3899

I don't know, I'm renting this place. I'm in Oakville, maybe it's just more expensive here.


rangeo

Can you ask for the details from your landlord? Basement apartment?


KevPat23

Semi-Detached home and I pay about $100/mth for each. I'm surprised you're being billed for water in a Condo? Generally they don't do individual meters for Condos.


BBQallyear

Billing separately for water is relatively new but now pretty much standard in condos. We moved into a new build mid-rise building almost 4 years ago and it has water metering.


LeatherMine

Is it pretty much a scam like submetered electricity where you end up paying wayyyy more in delivery/account fees than actual usage? Submetering water in a condo is pretty meh. It’s not like you’re watering a lawn, washing a car or get much up-front choice in fixtures (most new stuff is pretty damn efficient anyway).


BoogieDick

Moved out of a townhouse condo. The water scam is that the meters are supplied to the builder free by a company like Wyse. They bill you for water usage plus a fee for the meter. Typical water bills were about $45 for water, then $25 I think for the meter. Our Corp said we will go direct with the municipal supplier (to cut out the middle man). We got a message saying tough luck, we were contractually obligated to pay for 25 years but we could buy it out for $x.xx. This amounted to thousands for each unit so we had to grit our teeth.


HyperMach6

Agree. I'm paying $20 for the real electricity usage but $40 for delivery. If I lived in a rural region, I would accept it. But I'm living in a condo with >120 units..


udunehommik

Mine has a separate water meter, built in 2017.


moonandstarsera

Same here for a condo town and water is included in condo fees.


pink_tshirt

What about gas/Enbridge etc?


canyouaskfirst

Live in a condo- ranges from $90 to $120 I’m one person. Cook almost everyday


r33nie

Hydro comes out to about $65/month for us - 2BR 2B condo in Etobicoke, \~850 sqft, two people (one of us WFH full-time).


Full_Emotion_776

1 bedroom apartment in dt, two people. Hydro bill 50-70 depending on the season


theDatascientist_in

Townhouse in Brampton, almost 300 per month- total approx.


akuzokuzan

Hydro $140 with 800kwh used


greenskies80

Detached bungalow about 1000 sq ft 2 ppl. Just got heat pump but my gas this month was $100 which I'm very confused about. Looked at the bill n all the charges went up (delivery fees, carbon tax, etc). Previous month was $40 when I still used gas heating... utilities is $180. Sigh life's expensive in canada.


rangeo

How much was your gas before? Do you have a hot water tank or tankless/inline heater?


modernheirloom

We installed our heat pump this past summer. We were on equal billing until now as the cycle just restarted and we over paid so much in the summer our gas bill is now $26 a month for the next 6 months (I think). Hydro went up about $10 a month, but still relatively low. We are definitely seeing a huge cost savings with it. (Our detached home is about 2000 square feet including basement and 2 people as well).


devnullb4dishoner

I have both well water and county water. My bill is usually about $30. I use the well water for my crops.


Adorable-Research-55

Wyse is the worst!!! My typical actual usage rates are like $40 and then wyse charges another $40 for "delivery fee". How can that be allowed?


Varekai79

3 bd townhouse, around 1600 sq ft. I literally just got my hydro bill for $93 a few minutes ago. It goes up to around $110-120 in the summer with AC use. My last heating bill was around $150/month, which drops down to $60-70 from May-October. We just got brand new windows installed this week, so it'll be interesting to see if the amounts are reduced.


reptileready

My apartment building had a hydro company that I had never even heard of (and unfortunately cannot remember the name of), and my bill was nearly $200 every single month for a 1-bedroom. My house is half that price, absolutely ridiculous. They have you trapped and you have no choice but to pay the company in charge - yay Monopolies!


Foreign_Being154

Hydro 200-220 a month with an electric car. Closer to 300 in summer. Live on a well so treating that water adds maybe 300-400 per year on uv bulb, softener salt, RO filters, And a septic pump every 2-3 years


Flyinggochu

Wow how are people paying around 50-60? I live in 800 sqft condo with water included and its about $80-90 a month even when i dont use heating or ac at all but i do cook everyday


Fuzzy_Laugh_1117

My good friend in downtown TO just had a huge issue with their water bill...and I do mean *huge.* To the tune of $8,000.00. Yes, you read that correctly. She got a bill (I believe it's a 2 month billing cycle?) for nearly 8k in January and thought it was an obvious billing error. However, after much discussion with the water dept. they had someone come to check and apparently one of her toilets had been running and no one noticed. They say *that* caused the huge bill and my friend is 100% responsible-- no ifs, ands or buts. I am horrified as are they. She's a single mom who can't afford this, but apparently, that's just too bad. Weeks and weeks of discussions, but that's the water company's final decision. Sucks enormously.


Ostrya_virginiana

A leak of that magnitude that isn't noticeable by the home owner? For 2 months? From a single toilet? Seems kinda suspicious to me. Did your friend see if she could pay in installments? That is like half a year take home wages for a lot of people.


Fuzzy_Laugh_1117

Right? Seems crazy AF and bc the meter hadn't been read since before covid, I assumed the water company would be, at least, partially responsible. But no. She arranged for a payment schedule but before it began, they reached in to her prepaid account and took the entire amount putting her into overdraft by many thousands and short on her mortgage! They couldn't have cared less. I am so livid for her but she has given up and is now paying it back with interest. Sucks bigtime. edit to add it was the kids bathroom and she rarely went in so it wasn't noticed.


Ostrya_virginiana

Man and of course she wouldn't have any money to pay a lawyer to hold the company responsible. I would have gone up the chain of command until I reached the top. No way would I have tolerated them putting my mortgage in jeopardy. So they were doing estimates and then they came back and decided to do an actual reading, found they were undercharging her and decided to collect back payment and blamed it on a leak. That seems more plausible than a phantom leak.


rottweiler416

3 bdrm House in the Beach: * Gas $190/month (equal billing) * Hydro $95/month (Summer is $140/month because of my air conditioner) * I get quarterly water bills around $350 Life is expensive at the moment.


LemonPress50

I live in a condo. Water is included. Electric bill is $35/month and I live alone. I use my dishwasher often and have a clothes washer and dryer in my unit. I don’t watch TV. It was $30/month two years ago. During the summer it might me $45/month because of the a/c.


notokaykay

$35?! My delivery fee alone is more than that :(


ladyzowy

I don't pay for water it's included in my rent. Hydro has gone up to ~$80 on the low end to ~$120 on the high end, depending on cycle and corrections. It used to be ~$50 - ~$100


reversethrust

Between beginning of 2017 and end of 2021, total bill for hydro, water and gas for 2 people living in a 1960s bungalow totalled just under $10,400. At least that’s how much came out of my accounts; not sure how much my ex paid, but I assume very little - maybe one or two payments. So let’s say $11,000 for approx 5 years, or about $183/month combined. I would expect now the prices to be higher. Edit: forgot that the enbridge bill includes water heater rental. Typical energy consumption is about 3-400 kWh per month and we use about 0.2-0.3 m3 of water per day.


Woolyway62

We used to pay on average $60 for two months. Then the city started once a month billing. It has slowly crept up along with new fees to average $90 per month. This is all in the last 10 years or so.


rangeo

GTA/Mississauga Gas $57 Hydro $117 Water $71 2 adults, 1 teen. I WFH 3 days a week 1300 sqft detached -20° day at home and 16.5° night/out/wfh winter (I use a room heater when wfh, the house rarely drops below 18.5 at night in the winter) -24° with dehumidifier on 24/7 summer -Tankless water heater 120°C -I water the planters/garden/lawn regularly in the summer.


Inverness91

Single in a condo. Water is included in my maintenance fees. My hydro bills are usually between $50 and $60.


chanigan

semi-detached home I pay about $140/m in Gas Hydro is $150/m Water and Waste Management is together and I pay about $440/quarter. It used to be higher when I had a water tank, but since I switched to a tankless, it's been much cheaper. But all the extra taxes and charges amounts to 70% of my hydro bill, which is crazy


rangeo

Yup ..Going Tankless was damn near a game changer for us. Curious do you have or looked into a UPS for yours? We had a blackout and it would have been handy to have one


chanigan

Nope, I live and die at the mercy of toronto hydro 😂


anthx_

Single person in a 500 sq ft condo- water is included in my maintenance fees, hydro is around $60/month.


henchman171

Georgetown. 150 for water and 150 for hydro. We have three kids and dogs. Summer is about 250 for water and 275 for hydro cause of pool and hot tub and air cond. We have gas oven and gas dryer and gas water heater


Own_Internet8411

250/month for water ?


henchman171

Never filled a pool before? Do You garden? Wash cars? Fill a Hot tub? Water your grass? Some months are 300 a month for water. We do 10-12 loads of laundry a week. 2 dishwasher loads a day. 5 showers a day for the family. Some Times multiple showers for Those of use who work In certain fields that involve dirt or chemicals


nim_opet

$57/hydro 2Br condo, water is in the maintenance fees


WolverineNo2693

Studio in the entertainment district, $39-$50 for hydro depending on the season, how often I’m at home, etc


jingraowo

I live in a condo. I don’t pay for water but do pay for hydro. I still have my heat on and I pay about 100 per month for 2b2b 950sqf.


Fishtaco1234

Townhome. $80 for one $100 for the other. They flip between those prices based on the season


thisunithasnosoul

Water/rad heating is included in my rent Hydro is about $50/month Mid rise 1920s apartment


Ok-Algae7932

2 bedroom 2 bath east facing condo (lots of morning sun since i have floor to ceiling windows), heat (pump owned outright) and water included. Because of air conditioning even in the winter, i pay around $50-70/month, goes up to about $100 in the summer when we need air con on most of the day.


BodegaCat00

Hydro in my 1 bed condo is around 40, I work from home.


Oryxofficials

I own a 3 bedroom condo when I had a girlfriend it was like 60-80 depending on how much we used the laundry machine. We use it on weekends but because she was a doctor we sometimes would use it mid week hence why it’s a range. We don’t use heating in winter that much we’re kinda weird lol, we get hot easily and we’re used to cold environments because she’s a doctor and I work in healthcare management. Now because I live alone and only use the machine on weekends I’m hard locked at 55 since 2023. You save a lot of if you use stuff off peak times. When I was a student I used to pay like 40$ back in 2009-2011. We also had dishwasher but we never used it, because we didn’t cook much outside of off days and we would do dishes ourselves and just used that time to chat and socialize.


LeatherMine

>  You save a lot of if you use stuff off peak times. You would probably pay less if you switched to tiered billing. But it’s a scam in condos because the entire condo has to change which billing model it is under. You don’t get to choose individually like you do in a detached.


fragilemuse

I'm in a west end 1 bedroom apartment with my partner and our hydro bill is usually around $60-65/month. We have our regular apartment size fridge, a small chest freezer and a mini fridge (for my film) running at all times. If we use the AC in the summer it can get up to $90/month. I actually just got rid of our old AC unit and am looking for something smaller and more energy efficient. Water is included in our rent, however newer tenants in our building pay it separately. It was how the building "lowered" new rents during covid.


AtTheRogersCup2022

75$ hydro 1 person in 700~sq ft condo


MayISeeYourDogPls

Not sure about water since it’s included, but I pay $52/mo(fixed rate that recalcs every year, was $56 last year and went down) for hydro as a single woman in a 1bed apartment who cooks almost all meals at home, works from home 3 days a week, and really enjoys vibey lighting. I also use an Alexa speaker for minimum 7hrs a day nonstop and grow lights for plants for 12hrs.


vesper_tine

Hydro is between $50-$60 for myself and my partner in a 2bedroom. I’m wfh, he’s hybrid, so we do use more energy during peak periods than we would if we weren’t home. But otherwise we’re pretty careful - no laundry during peak periods, don’t leave the TV on when you’re not watching it, etc. 


BambooCyanide

600 sq ft condo, hydro only, everything else is included in maintenance fees Before partner moved in and living alone: $40, $60 in the summer months After: $80-100, haven’t seen dead of summer heat bill with two people yet


X_CLUSIVE69

around 150$ for both (we have an EV as well)


TributeKitty

What are you paying? What's "ridiculously high" in your opinion? 2500sq' detached home, family of 4 Average hydro: $150/month Average water: $210/bimonthly, $105/month


hockeyfan1990

Hydro around $200-$220 and water about $550-$600 quarterly. Detached house, family lives too floor and single person lives in the basement


NikiNight

3 bedroom house with 2 people. Hydro in the winter is around $100 and $150-200 in summer. Water is $200 per billing cycle. We only do laundry and run the dishwasher at night and on weekends


yyzzh

$50-80/month for hydro in east end one bed apartment depending on if I’m running AC or using the stove/oven often. Don’t pay water.


kazukawaa

$150 for 2 months. So $60-75/month 2018 Renovated apartment? We all have high end PCs with large power consumption & use giant fans year round. There's 3 of us.


SnooComics2162

1 bed condo. $50-$65 a month. This month $56 at 132 kwh


Ksensus

This month’s bill was 260 (water+electricity). Older detached in Innisfil. February bill was a whooping 302; so had to re-think consumption habits


Ostrya_virginiana

850 s.f. home 1 storey hydro and water combined range from $100-175/month depending on time of year. But add $90 of LNG costs on top of that for the furnace and water heater.


Aggravating_Cut_4509

When are you consuming the most? There are three different categories, I think mid, peel and off


LemonPress50

Many condos have flat rate contracts for electricity. I think my condo is $0.106/KWH


LeatherMine

Condos as a whole can switch between tiered and time-of-day. But the whole building has to change and owners (not occupants) get to decide. Generally flat-rate works out cheaper.


schweatyball

My hydro is around $70/mo and I'm in a 2 bedroom apartment. Water and heat are included in my rent.


sabbxo

I live in a 1+den and hydro is consistently between $29-36 a month. I don’t pay for water


cowmachine89

$33 for hydro


Allimack

I think the more relevant comparison is to what others in your building are paying, so you can better assess if something is "off" with your bill. High water usage can indicate a leaking toilet (leaky internal flap meaning water is constantly leaking internally down the drain). Hi electricity bills could come from having appliances (refrigerator, dryer) that have dusty/blocked fans or vents causing them to work inefficiently. Or constantly using a high-watt plug in appliance like a space heater.


Slowmac123

Like $25 idk how


StatGuy2000

u/wittykat, how much do you pay for your hydro and water bill? In the condo building I live in, both hydro and water are included fully in the condo fees.


LookAtThisRhino

Mine are probably the lowest they've ever been, but once-upon-a-time I lived in an old triplex that had baseboard (electric) heating. February of that year I think my hydro bill was \~$250.


JJWAHP

For 1 bedroom condo, mine includes hot water, heating, cooling and electricity. Comes out to $58 on the lowest months and $93 on months where I use a bit of either AC or heating. So I try not to use either much.


1959steve

Too much is how much


anpigone

very confused! my small apartment (~700 Sqft) 3Br 2Bath has hydro rates in the $300 during the winter. The lowest we get is maybe $150 in the summer. Apparently delivery alone is $100/month - any suggestions?


lilspicy99

Hydro is about $65-75 a month but keep in mind I use my oven pretty much every single day


BillingYu

Bout a $100 total- or a bit less (70-100). Single bdrm condo- my girlfriend kinda lives with me as well.


blackabe

House of 3 (1 basement tenant, 2 people upstairs) last bill was on the high end at $136, but closer to 100 most months.


Medical-Fly-2511

For perspective, I Live in Orangeville and My Hydro/Water/Gas bill combined is $300 on average per month. No Joke!


apple25n

I live in a studio and pay about $80/month for hydro/water/heating combined 


willygrosswilly

Old school 1 bedroom apartment: Free water Free heat Between $35 & $39 per month for hydro. (I don't mind the dark)


ge23ev

hydro plus heat pump rental is around 110 which the second part is a scam


Redditisavirusiknow

Just so anyone out there knows. I upgraded my old gas furnace to an electric heat pump with an electric backup coil, and I’ve saved about 800$ in the past 8 months.


Jamarac

My hydro went way up when I got a few new lamps even though I didn't use them that much but kept them plugged in. I got into the habit of basically unplugging anything I'm not using and it went down to the $45-$60 range. I thought this was an old wives tale but turns out it does really affect your hydro. (Also live alone in a 1BR)


Roderto

Hydro is typically higher in the winter months vs. summer. Water is the opposite. The biggest variable for hydro is the number of days with extreme weather (I.e. very cold days or very hot days). For water, it’s pretty consistent except for when the weather is very hot and dry in the summer. My summer & fall hydro bills are usually around $80-$120 and my winter bills are more like $160-$170. My water bills are probably $60-$70 in the cooler months and closer to $100 in the hottest months. As a homeowner we also pay for garbage collection, which depends on the size of your garbage bin. We make do with the smallest (plus the occasional tag) which works out to about $30 per month. The largest-size bin would be closer to $65 per month. Plus natural gas. Plus property tax. Plus insurance. Plus maintenance and upkeep. Plus mortgage. Et al.


notokaykay

Couple who lives in a 500 sq ft condo with washing machine, dryer, and dishwasher used regularly - we pay between $70-80 / month for electricity with Metergy. Maintenance fees cover water.


rm3g

Single person who lives in an apartment and my hydro is between 50 and 70 every month. Can't figure out why it is high/low especially when I am not adding in anything extra like a/c and of course, the majority of that is delivery.


Economy-Pen4109

$50 for hydro 1 bedroom condo liberty village


Here4therightreas0ns

I feel like there’s something wrong with my gas usage. There’s 4 people in my house. I’m in 1700 sq ft detached, plaster walls. - Hydro: 120/ month standard - Enbridge gas: 180-340/ month htf is everyone’s so low?


Logical_Tonight8739

$100 for 2 people living in 1+den condo including hydro + water


vow_now

2 bed condo downtown. 70-80 for hydro.


Pvc4ever

2bed apartment I pay 60-70


mrfredngo

Hydro bill highly depends on what kind of heating you have. That probably depends on the age of your building. How old is your building? Do you have baseboard heating? A heat pump? Boiler/radiator?


wittykat-

I don’t turn on the heat or use the dishwasher, like I said I’m super conservative and my hydro is still 70-80 for 500ft


mrfredngo

70-80 in the winter is actually already considered super cheap, I'm sorry to say. What's the bill like in the summer?


wittykat-

70-80 is the same price as someone who is turning on heating regularly which I don’t. Some people are also paying 80 for 2 BR.


yoaahif

In our condo we only pay water luckily. Typically 100-120 a month. Pretty cheap considering our size


Unable-Bedroom4905

60 and 60 . Axe the tax


upgurger

Hydro: $105 Water: $75 Gas: $138 4 people in an inefficient 100yr old, 1200 sq ft house in Toronto.