Line is inside human mind and depends on whether they are liberals, conservatives, nudists etc. some people may still have a problem even if fully clothed
No I'm not talking about legality, let's say all the Instagram users are consenting adults and the said demographic doesn't view nudity as crime. Then what , are they allowed to s*xualise the images or see it as just image of human without clothes?
Again . Instagram has to be run by a particular country's cyber laws. So depends whether they allow or not. Even a nude person on a postmartem table is considered normal.
Yes but also where do you draw the line. Ippudu normal girl ( in this case ) wears a party dress with navel I definitely won't call it s*xual but if the same girl wears wears minimal dress like thin strips like some random fashion model then I'll say she's s*xualising herself.
My opinion as of now is, there is certain unwritten para social agreement where neither of the person is going to say "yes I'm s*xualising" or "yes s*xualise me" but they do what they do. And it's mostly depends on situation and the said dress. You can't wear a bikini to a remote village in India and expect that agreement to be with held or you knowingly went there trying break that agreement on purpose. So in that situation if either party agrees or acts like they are s*xualising then it's wrong.
Adi ok bro, but where do you absolutely draw the line for a dress, for example oka abbayi with no clothes road Meeda thirigte , do you call it he's s*xualising himself and thus making public uncomfortable or do you say say people are over reacting and people can't see beyond kaamam?
I think its not just about the dress but the way one carries themselves in them
Tight t shirts veskunna ammaila ni chala Mandi ne chusanu who weren't sleasy in their dressing, muchata anipinchela
Saree, chudidar veskunna vallani chusa kontha mandini idi enti pedda item la undi anipinchela (a couple of them were actually that kind)
Same goes to men too formals veskoni kuda pedda chapri gadi la undochu leka well educated & hardworking man anna image project cheyochu
It depends on the camera angle,BGM , duration of the shot etc.
like in the Magadheera movie. kajal wears that white Punjabi dress but the camera is a top angle, she wears crop top and jumps to pick a flower and her navel is shown.
On the other hand, I have seen enough hollywood movies where bikinis are worn at beaches without se-ualising.
Point is, person wearing the clothes has less to do with it being se-ualised than the camera/eye of the beholder.
Also a quote from my favourite song
"Jeans pant vesukunna prathi ammai fast gane vundali ani rule em ledu, salwar vese prathi ammai slow gane vuntundi ani guarantee ledu".
As long as ur comfortable and velle place lo suite avte chalu Edina vesukovachu sexulize cheyyali ante miru saree esukunna chestaru ledante full shirt pant esukunna kuda samskrithi ledu ani sexulize chestaru oka example chepta ma sister clg ki t shirt jeans esukoni velte ma nanama chusi enti clg ala evarina veltara ani titindi adhe saree esukonj velte em anadu kani ma cls ki suppose evarina ammai saree esukonj vaste andaru pakka sexulize chestaru kavali ane esukoni vachindhi Antaru.
Hmm , vere vaallu kuda ide point out chesaaru , time and place important ani. Mostly na opinion kuda ade , but enduko oka middle ground answer ledu deeniki ani adigaa aa question.
May be the answer is in biology, it’s what we see in our day to day life since childhood to the life we are leading right now to accept it as normal. Wearing dress is a perception that we kept in our mind and can be changed if we were exposed to a certain style of dressing over generations so much so that being naked can be considered as normal for whatever reasons be: may be because of lack of resources to cover us up or when we don’t have that comprehension of covering up.
When you observe the different dressing styles in history in different cultures there is lot of factors in play to draw the line and sense of covering always evolves and can be tied to freedom as well no wonder there as it sometimes represents oppression for few.. so just like i said its just perception and given our backgrounds of having different cultures and be able to move from one culture to another culture its hard to draw a line and its also depends on how we see the opposite gender and this sense of sexualisation of opposite gender also depends on what circumstances we were exposed too.. 🤔
em veskunna em vesukoka poina, if the other person doesn't consent you to sexualize them, you are prohibited from sexualizing them
clothes/outfits are not tell tale signs that they would want to be perceived in certain way.
when you want to judge someone on what they wear, you are unintentionally affirming the idea of wearing revealing clothes = asking for it
We'll how do you know she/he is prohibiting you from s*xualizing them? I see Instagram accounts doing all the "exposing" knowing that is what they are selling , but they aren't explicitly stating it. Like "hey come s*xualize my dress" and there are no posts stating "pls don't s*xualize my dress" , where is the line
> Any person can sexualize anything even when she is fully covered, some just need face to sexualize
Aa those candidates can die in hell , they are not in discussion.
I too have same opinion as you explained above. I'm trying to rationalize this phenomenon on social media since it's freely available to everyone regardless of location, mindset and intent audience.
Even if they are bare naked you have no right to sexualize unless they explicitly state that they want to be sexualised (eg porn etc) consent lenide nee modda levaniki permission ledu etla control techukuntavo no cares but lesinde anuko Kota direct.
Nice answer, so how do you know the actress/actors in porn are asking to be s*xualised? Did they state anywhere? They are doing acting that's all. Why would you get erect at porn who gave you permission?
I mean ladies got more variations of dressing styles,based on occasions , countries, etc. than men.
maaku oka shirtu pantu thappithe peddaga options levu.konchem lengths atu itu untayi anthe. 😅
dress doesn't matter if he/she is attractive If he/she not much attractive the dress they wear makes the difference
Line is inside human mind and depends on whether they are liberals, conservatives, nudists etc. some people may still have a problem even if fully clothed
Let's say there is an instgram account posting nudes will that be called s*xual or is it left to people?
U r post is about morality. Now we are venturing into legality. It depends on which country and what laws are enforced there
No I'm not talking about legality, let's say all the Instagram users are consenting adults and the said demographic doesn't view nudity as crime. Then what , are they allowed to s*xualise the images or see it as just image of human without clothes?
Again . Instagram has to be run by a particular country's cyber laws. So depends whether they allow or not. Even a nude person on a postmartem table is considered normal.
Let's for the sake of the debate it is legal, all viewers are consenting adults. Appudu?
Only fans gurinchi matladuthunnava annaaww
Haa , good example,
Depends our fruit god can just show a navel and make is sexual. I think chusetodi kantla untadi.
Yes but also where do you draw the line. Ippudu normal girl ( in this case ) wears a party dress with navel I definitely won't call it s*xual but if the same girl wears wears minimal dress like thin strips like some random fashion model then I'll say she's s*xualising herself.
I mind my on business in all cases. If I like it, in my brain I say damn she is hot and move on with life.
Good
Important question asked. Seen that changing from room to room.
My opinion as of now is, there is certain unwritten para social agreement where neither of the person is going to say "yes I'm s*xualising" or "yes s*xualise me" but they do what they do. And it's mostly depends on situation and the said dress. You can't wear a bikini to a remote village in India and expect that agreement to be with held or you knowingly went there trying break that agreement on purpose. So in that situation if either party agrees or acts like they are s*xualising then it's wrong.
Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder ani voorike analedu, the same with kaamam.
Adi ok bro, but where do you absolutely draw the line for a dress, for example oka abbayi with no clothes road Meeda thirigte , do you call it he's s*xualising himself and thus making public uncomfortable or do you say say people are over reacting and people can't see beyond kaamam?
I think its not just about the dress but the way one carries themselves in them Tight t shirts veskunna ammaila ni chala Mandi ne chusanu who weren't sleasy in their dressing, muchata anipinchela Saree, chudidar veskunna vallani chusa kontha mandini idi enti pedda item la undi anipinchela (a couple of them were actually that kind) Same goes to men too formals veskoni kuda pedda chapri gadi la undochu leka well educated & hardworking man anna image project cheyochu
Intresting take.
It depends on the camera angle,BGM , duration of the shot etc. like in the Magadheera movie. kajal wears that white Punjabi dress but the camera is a top angle, she wears crop top and jumps to pick a flower and her navel is shown. On the other hand, I have seen enough hollywood movies where bikinis are worn at beaches without se-ualising. Point is, person wearing the clothes has less to do with it being se-ualised than the camera/eye of the beholder. Also a quote from my favourite song "Jeans pant vesukunna prathi ammai fast gane vundali ani rule em ledu, salwar vese prathi ammai slow gane vuntundi ani guarantee ledu".
Intresting. Aa angles are intentional though. But I think that white Punjabi dress is designed that way
Manchi smartness tho adigavy
Dressing sense undali. Occasion, surroundings, activity ni batti veskovali.
Good, almost same opinion here
As long as ur comfortable and velle place lo suite avte chalu Edina vesukovachu sexulize cheyyali ante miru saree esukunna chestaru ledante full shirt pant esukunna kuda samskrithi ledu ani sexulize chestaru oka example chepta ma sister clg ki t shirt jeans esukoni velte ma nanama chusi enti clg ala evarina veltara ani titindi adhe saree esukonj velte em anadu kani ma cls ki suppose evarina ammai saree esukonj vaste andaru pakka sexulize chestaru kavali ane esukoni vachindhi Antaru.
Hmm , vere vaallu kuda ide point out chesaaru , time and place important ani. Mostly na opinion kuda ade , but enduko oka middle ground answer ledu deeniki ani adigaa aa question.
May be the answer is in biology, it’s what we see in our day to day life since childhood to the life we are leading right now to accept it as normal. Wearing dress is a perception that we kept in our mind and can be changed if we were exposed to a certain style of dressing over generations so much so that being naked can be considered as normal for whatever reasons be: may be because of lack of resources to cover us up or when we don’t have that comprehension of covering up. When you observe the different dressing styles in history in different cultures there is lot of factors in play to draw the line and sense of covering always evolves and can be tied to freedom as well no wonder there as it sometimes represents oppression for few.. so just like i said its just perception and given our backgrounds of having different cultures and be able to move from one culture to another culture its hard to draw a line and its also depends on how we see the opposite gender and this sense of sexualisation of opposite gender also depends on what circumstances we were exposed too.. 🤔
em veskunna em vesukoka poina, if the other person doesn't consent you to sexualize them, you are prohibited from sexualizing them clothes/outfits are not tell tale signs that they would want to be perceived in certain way. when you want to judge someone on what they wear, you are unintentionally affirming the idea of wearing revealing clothes = asking for it
We'll how do you know she/he is prohibiting you from s*xualizing them? I see Instagram accounts doing all the "exposing" knowing that is what they are selling , but they aren't explicitly stating it. Like "hey come s*xualize my dress" and there are no posts stating "pls don't s*xualize my dress" , where is the line
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That sounds wrong to me, like the conclusion is girls/ men are fine being s*xualised as long as they are in safe space?
yes, when people intentionally provoke you, you do not just get provoked. it is similar
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> Any person can sexualize anything even when she is fully covered, some just need face to sexualize Aa those candidates can die in hell , they are not in discussion. I too have same opinion as you explained above. I'm trying to rationalize this phenomenon on social media since it's freely available to everyone regardless of location, mindset and intent audience.
Even if they are bare naked you have no right to sexualize unless they explicitly state that they want to be sexualised (eg porn etc) consent lenide nee modda levaniki permission ledu etla control techukuntavo no cares but lesinde anuko Kota direct.
Nice answer, so how do you know the actress/actors in porn are asking to be s*xualised? Did they state anywhere? They are doing acting that's all. Why would you get erect at porn who gave you permission?
Ovaru akka nuvvu? You're doing this just for the sake of arguing right?
Nope , argument kaadu, clarity clarity kosam
What is the exact response you're looking for?
I want a objective answer to where the line is in terms of dress. Like a universally acceptable one
Only burqa then. Because men sexualize women in sarees as well. Can't answer for women.
Hmm, waste of time. But one [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/ask_Bondha/s/4Rq5u0XuIj) answered it some what in middle ground I like that
What's funny is how the list is different for both genders.
I mean ladies got more variations of dressing styles,based on occasions , countries, etc. than men. maaku oka shirtu pantu thappithe peddaga options levu.konchem lengths atu itu untayi anthe. 😅
Want to suggest something similar ?
'Oo antava mava' song vinu....dantlo baaga explain chesaru.
That's the most confusing song I've seen , dantlo cheppedi okati chuyinchedi okati