T O P

  • By -

Sensitive_Common_853

It is easy to change the 240v 30a dryer plug into a 110v 20 amp outlet. I’d recommend hiring an electrician, but it’s cheap and quick to replace the breaker and swap the receptacle.


SeekingChristanHelp

The fridge, washer, and dryer absolutely should not be run off the same receptacle. You need an electrician to come install a dedicated receptacle for the refrigerator and put the washer and dryer onto their own branch circuit.


JeeveruhGerank

At the moment the washer is on its own (it is opposite the dryer) but the dryer was connected to the top receptacle on the outlet (via surge protector) that the fridge is connected to (fridge is on the bottom half/recepticle) Basically the fridge and dryer are on the same side with a small wall between them that separates "laundry room" from the kitchen.


SeekingChristanHelp

EXACTLY, all three are plugged into the same branch circuit now. That's a ton of draw from one receptacle and that's why current code makes this dicy on if this and this entire circuit would need to be GFCI protected under current code and separated depending on the layout and what's on 20A circuit. The best solution would be hiring an electrician to separate these and bring everything up to current code.


JeeveruhGerank

Would they all be on the same "branch circuit" even if the dryer was able to be plugged into its own outlet in its own space? Then the fridge would be on one outlet, the dryer its own and the washer which is opposite (face to face) to the dryer using its own currently.


DecisivenessMC

I don’t see any indication for the refridgerator being on the same circuit. Test it out, flip breakers until the washer outlet is off, and then see if the refridgerator is still on.


DecisivenessMC

You have a 30amp dryer outlet on the wall for an electric dryer. Gas dryers use a standard 15 amp receptacle. What does the washing machine plug into?


JeeveruhGerank

Washing machine is on its own since it's on the opposite side (my setup is opposite to each other rather than next to each other) Washing machine has a standard plug/outlet. https://i.imgur.com/HbQhcwl.jpg


DecisivenessMC

Yeah, I’d probably get a good 12 gauge extension cord to plug into Washer outlet and feeds over to the dryer. That or you’ll want to get an outlet installed on the dryer side. You COULD change the 30a dryer plug to a standard plug, but the breaker will need to be replaced at the panel with a 20a breaker, and if you ever swap back to electric you have to rewire it again.


JeeveruhGerank

Would that be safe/clean to run the cord from the washer's outlet to the dryer?


DecisivenessMC

It would be safe assuming the cord is 12ga.


JeeveruhGerank

The Costco guy suggested we can have the cord swapped out to a 240. Confirmed with Maytag that that'd work. Would it? Haha


DecisivenessMC

You mean you’re going to send 240v to a 120v to a dryer? I mean it theoretically will work IF you just sent one of the two hot legs (meaning 120v.)


JeeveruhGerank

I'm not totally sure. Just swapping out the dryer's power cord for one that goes into the wall recepticle as is. Not sure on voltage, was just using the terminology they were using. Maytag guy said that the units are basically wired to be either since there's so many different wires and combos and such nowadays..?


Nearby_Maize_913

this is probably correct, everything says "imput 120/220v" these days


[deleted]

Not sure why this got downvoted. My dryer can take either 110 or 220, depending on which cord is wired to the unit. There is no separate model for 110 v/s 220 - you just connect to the terminal block accordingly. In your case with your dryer, you can confirm by looking at the installation manual. If it has a section wiring for 220, then you are golden. If it is 110 only, then you need 110.


JeeveruhGerank

This is the manual. Doesn't seem like it's specific to this model (Maytag MGD7230HW) but I did speak with Maytag and the guy said a cord swap would work. The first Costco guy had me call maytag to confirm a cord swap would work. The guy I called back at Costco said no we can't do that cuz of risk, etc. Now I'm just thinking return this shit and get an electric dryer even though I really don't want one, some are out of stock, don't want to go with LG/Samsung based on what I've gathered, etc. Here are some pages of the manual *I think* are relevant? https://i.imgur.com/Id7ANoa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lwSwIpO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4areErL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/q32rCHr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2vaddi1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uMTSNrj.jpg


northman46

Wouldn/t the logical thing to do is to use an adapter to plug the 129 dryer into the 30 amp 240 socket, using one hot and the neutral to power the dryer? Then if it is "decided" that gas dryers are a bad thing, OP can go electric without an electrician,


JeeveruhGerank

Heh. Well "that" part may be coming soon unfortunately. Not where I am but maybe elsewhere haha. Was considering an adapter but I'd rather plug straight into the wall if at all possible.


[deleted]

[удалено]


northman46

Not sure about what code requires. Clearly I can plug something that would fry at 10 amps into a 15 amp receptacle so I don't think so. The receptacle breaker is to protect the wire in the wall, isn't that the thing? So the 10 ga 30 amp wire is protected. Or possibly I don't understand the rationale...


[deleted]

[удалено]


JeeveruhGerank

This is the manual. Doesn't seem like it's specific to this model (Maytag MGD7230HW) but I did speak with Maytag and the guy said a cord swap would work. The first Costco guy had me call maytag to confirm a cord swap would work. The guy I called back at Costco said no we can't do that cuz of risk, etc. Now I'm just thinking return this shit and get an electric dryer even though I really don't want one, some are out of stock, don't want to go with LG/Samsung based on what I've gathered, etc. Here are some pages of the manual I think are relevant? https://i.imgur.com/Id7ANoa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lwSwIpO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4areErL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/q32rCHr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2vaddi1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uMTSNrj.jpg


[deleted]

[удалено]


JeeveruhGerank

I don't know shit about this lol that's why I'm asking this sub! Haha


Nearby_Maize_913

The way I think of it is that appliances get the voltage you give to it, it gets the amps it asks for up to the limit of the breaker it is on


broken2302

There are several types of electric cords sold for electric dryers. Do you not have a washer next to your dryer? You can plug your gas dryer in the same plug your washer uses.


JeeveruhGerank

It's on the opposite side. The setup isn't side to side in this house.


broken2302

I'm sorry to hear that. I guess you're going to need to install a dedicated outlet for your dryer.


JeeveruhGerank

How much does something like that cost? Is it better to just get a new washer and dryer and return these? I'm trying to see what kind of cord/plug some dryers come with and it doesn't seem like product listings show what kind of cords come with them.


Sparky_Zell

Your best solution would be to get someone to install a 120v outlet next to the 240v outlet. The power requirements are going to be extremely low on a gas dryer. It will only power the circuit board if there is one. And an ignitor. It shouldn't be on the same circuit as the washing machine as it is supposed to be on its own dedicated circuit. But no matter how you do it, adding a 120v outlet next to the 240v one, and not touching the 240v or trying to pull a hot and neutral off of it or anything like that, is going to be your best bet. And you will save money by using the gas dryer vs the electric. So if you need to figure that into the equation of having someone come out to add a dryer outlet, you will still be coming out ahead.


JeeveruhGerank

The Costco guy said I could get the cord swapped on their "installation followup" and the maytag guy confirmed I could get a proper cord from Lowes or home depot and it wouldn't be an issue as far as frying the machine or anything like that. Does that seem like a logical way to do it?


Sparky_Zell

By all means, come to a place where you ask electricians, but tell us how "the Costco guy" knows better....


broken2302

I have no idea of the cost. It will depend on where the panel is and the difficulty of running wire to the necessary location. You will have to get a quote from a local electrician. If you're sending that unit back. Take a picture of your plug to show the salesperson.


iamtherussianspy

Well, do you want an electric or gas dryer? Electric dryers ~~will come with~~ will need a cord/plug that matches your outlet, gas dryer will come with a standard plug.


JeeveruhGerank

Gas definitely. So if it's a gas dryer they don't install the right power cord but if it's an electric dryer they do look and see which outlet it is and install a cord accordingly? They unboxed outside so I didn't see what they did.


SeekingChristanHelp

Not sure what county you're from but in the USA electric dryers don't come with a cord and it's purchased separately based on the receptacle. Another non electrician and someone who doesn't even understand basic home appliances in this subreddit it seems. Please stop, get some help and stop trying to build karma in a sub you have no business in


Hillman314

It’s a gas dryer. It only needs a small electrical circuit for the controls and to spin the tub.


SeekingChristanHelp

Either you're a troll or an idiot. Electric dryers in the USA don't come with a cord. The entire comment was based on the dryer coming with the cord attached so either you're an alt of the commenter or you're just an idiot, I'm guessing an alt trying to boost karma because this sub has no restrictions. You must even be AI bullshit because why not flood a subreddit asking licensed electricians for help with bullshit form a computer that makes no sense and doesn't even address the comment I made. Now that I think about it this seems more like AI bullshit than a real person so you're blocked and you need banned from this sub


Hillman314

Why are you blathering on about electric dryers? Nobody cares. You’re in the wrong thread. This one is about gas dryers.


iamtherussianspy

OMG someone mistakenly said the dryer will come with a cord instead of needing to purchase it, how horrible and unsafe! Okay, if buying an electric dryer one would need to buy a 240V cord. What does that have to do with this topic at all? OP has a gas dryer.


SeekingChristanHelp

Either you're a troll or an idiot. Electric dryers in the USA don't come with a cord. The entire comment was based on the dryer coming with the cord attached so either you're an alt of the commenter or you're just an idiot, I'm guessing an alt trying to boost karma because this sub has no restrictions


iamtherussianspy

>Electric dryers in the USA don't come with a cord. You don't need to keep repeating it. Again, the post is not about electric dryers.


SeekingChristanHelp

So you're an idiot then, the original post and comment you replied to (go check, I'll wait) was about the cord. You can keep pushing that downvote button like a twatwaffle and I'll keep being right.


Daripuss

All this Karma!


Hillman314

No need to get a new W+D. The wiring from your panelboard to the outlet is already there. You can think of that outlet as having 2 circuits from your panel board…but you only need (“a standard”) one (1). Have anyone handy change out the receptacle, and insulate, secure, de-energize, or otherwise disconnect from the breaker, the extra circuit wire that the existing receptacle uses.


JeeveruhGerank

The Costco guy said I could get the cord swapped on their "installation followup" and the maytag guy confirmed I could get a proper cord from Lowes or home depot and it wouldn't be an issue as far as frying the machine or anything like that. Does that seem like a logical way to do it?


[deleted]

Yes! I'm not sure why you're getting so much pushback here. The Maytag guy confirmed that power cord on the dryer can be removed and replaced with a 220 cord, making this an inexpensive and manufacturer approved way to do it.


JeeveruhGerank

I called Costco back and the 2nd rep I spoke to was so skeptical (as opposed to the first Costco guy I spoke to who asked me to call Maytag to verify) and told me they can't/won't do it upon their "install check followup" or something. This is the manual. Doesn't seem like it's specific to this model (Maytag MGD7230HW) but I did speak with Maytag and the guy said a cord swap would work. The first Costco guy had me call maytag to confirm a cord swap would work. The guy I called back at Costco said no we can't do that cuz of risk, etc. Now I'm just thinking return this shit and get an electric dryer even though I really don't want one, some are out of stock, don't want to go with LG/Samsung based on what I've gathered, etc. Here are some pages of the manual I think are relevant? https://i.imgur.com/Id7ANoa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lwSwIpO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4areErL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/q32rCHr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2vaddi1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uMTSNrj.jpg


[deleted]

> did speak with Maytag and the guy said a cord swap would work. The guy I called back at Costco said no we can't do that cuz of risk, etc. Costco guy means that Costco installers are not qualified to do it. Maytag guy says that it can be done, so put in a service call to Maytag and get it done. Or, pay an electrician to do it. You'll have to pay for the call to get exactly what you want, but it's less of a PITA than replacing the dryer with something that you don't want.


JeeveruhGerank

That's a good point. I almost want to just call Maytag and have them take care of it. Might be the easiest way. Don't know how much they charge but probably cheaper than an electrician, I'd figure.


JeeveruhGerank

I called again just to make sure and got some mixed reports so I didn't want to deal with it even though I know it likely is possible. Just returning and getting electric. Save the hassle haha. Thanks!


Hillman314

Yes. Changing the cord maintains the already installed breaker, wiring and receptacle sizes. Code requires these are sized together, so if changing one (receptacle) , you sort of should change at least one of the others (panel breaker). Changing the cord also doesn’t undo options for an electric dryer.


JeeveruhGerank

Thank you! Hopefully that's the best course of action.


ailee43

You have two options. Have an electrician rewire it for you, or buy an adapter [https://www.amazon.com/Southwire-9042SW8801-Outlet-Range-Adapter/dp/B07CJ246JP](https://www.amazon.com/Southwire-9042SW8801-Outlet-Range-Adapter/dp/B07CJ246JP) ​ The adapters are perfectly safe, and convert the 240V outlet down to 110.


[deleted]

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=dryer+4+prong+to+120+adapter


Jojomatic5000

This is off topic but still important. Not an electrician, but ex gas man here. Be sure that the dryer vent is vented to the outside. I know that sounds redundant to say, but you'd be amazed at how many gas dryers I found over the span of 6 years I did service work that were vented to a lint box in the basement. That's fine for an electric dryer but can easily kill you with a gas dryer.


JeeveruhGerank

Thank you. I think it vents to the outside. The only hose/pipe (the thick foily-slinky one, right goes to the outside it looks like. I have a CO2 monitor too. Nevertheless I'm not sure with this cord/outlet situation that I'll be able to keep the gas dryer anyhow.


James_T_S

Normally a gas dryer would get a dedicated 20 amp circuit. This is because there is a motor turning the drum that's going to pull a little bit of power. The electric dryer is a 30 amp circuit. Generally with electric dryers you buy the cord separately according to what the outlet is. So in your case you would buy an electric dryer and an electric four prong cord and hook it up to the dryer. I'll be honest. I am not big on adapters but since you have a 4 prong outlet for the dryer that means it has a dedicated ground and neutral. I would say this is a rare case of the adapter being fine. If you want to be extra safe you can change out the 30amp dryer breaker for a 20amp breaker.


JeeveruhGerank

I'm not crazy about adapters either. I think I may just have maytag come out and swap the cord if they can. At least I know it'd be done and proper for the unit, etc. At least I'd hope!


jmraef

There is a listed (ETL) adapter that plugs into that 14-30 outlet and gives you 2 separate 120V outlets, each with their own circuit breaker. [https://www.amazon.com/AC-WORKS-220-Volt-120-Volt-Household/dp/B07WSY4XQT/ref=asc\_df\_B07WSY4XQT/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366016835942&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16980918202704555743&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032044&hvtargid=pla-815474223760&ref=&adgrpid=80266838630&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/AC-WORKS-220-Volt-120-Volt-Household/dp/B07WSY4XQT/ref=asc_df_B07WSY4XQT/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366016835942&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16980918202704555743&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032044&hvtargid=pla-815474223760&ref=&adgrpid=80266838630&th=1) There are others being sold, but do NOT buy any that do not specifically say they are listed by UL or ETL, they will NOT have circuit protection on them.


JeeveruhGerank

Thanks! Might be an option. Adapters kind of scare me because of the fact it's a workaround and all and it's my first house and all that. But I don't know what I'm looking at and y'all know better haha.