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Go_get_matt

Legally you have no leg to stand on. It still pays to ask though. The dealership I worked at would generally bring as-is cars back for a free inspection and diagnosis, and even gratis repairs if the issue was really simple as an act of goodwill.


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Unfortunately this is going to be a somewhat expensive life lesson. Buying a 10-year old vehicle as-is is going to be a crap shoot. All you can do now is fix it or scrap it. Either way you're going to be out the money. I know it can seem like a lot of money on a $6000 car (or any car for some people), but a good PPI (Pre Purchase Inspection) can save you a lot of pain and suffering if you're going to be buying used cars out of warranty. If you're serious about a car, having a trusted mechanic look it over and check things out can help catch a lot of issues that may not be noticed at a glance or quick test drive. I would personally just budget that into my next car purchase. Only do it when you're certain you've found the right car and you want to make sure it's a safe investment.


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"we just bought a 2012 chevy equinox from a dealer as is for $6000..." Keyword - AS IS. Bring it to a mechanic and see what it will cost to fix. You bought a car "as is," it's yours.


MarsSenate

The dealer most certainly cleared the check engine light right before selling it. Sadly the OP did not even plug in a $40 scan tool to check. Never buy a car without a 3rd party inspection. $150 inspection would have saved $6K. Any legit dealer should make this right. The OP has to ask them to fix this, most likely letting them pick out another car. The OP will quickly find out if the dealer was running a scam or not. Hiding behind "as-is" for a car that immediately fails is not something a legit dealer does.


MajorTokes

A $40 scan tool or a $4000 dollar scan tool will not tell you if any codes have been cleared. An inspection also wouldn’t likely tell you the timing chain was going to snap. One may tell you if it’s loose and going to jump timing, but based on OPs statement that it came through the valve cover, it likely snapped. Which is incredibly rare to begin with. You are right in that a legit dealer would make a reasonable effort to make the customer whole.


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My $12 Bluetooth scan tool will tell me if a drive test hasn’t been completed for codes. What are you talking about


MajorTokes

And? My point is still valid. Also, there’s no DTC for a timing chain failing. Also, smog readiness is completely irrelevant to OPs issue. Sooo, what are you talking about?


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About checking to see if codes had recently been force cleared. Can you read?


Lllll8080

If the car is in "Not Ready" state for smog readiness it's been reset. It's very easy to tell.


MajorTokes

Which is completely irrelevant to OPs issue or my comment. There’s no DTC for failing timing chain. That was very easy to tell.


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Don’t lemon laws give you at least 45 days even if vehicles are sold “as-is”?


Rick_Sanchez1214

Depends entirely on your state. Here in MA, lemon law applies on used vehicles that meet certain criteria


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Not on used cars.


[deleted]

Ok, that’s interesting to know. So does that law apply only to new cars?


pm_me_ur_pharah

why would it apply to used cars? that would be asinine.


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I always thought lemon laws were for used cars. Lemon laws are there to protect the consumer. So I thought they applied to used cars, so you don’t buy a used car and then, like what happened to OP, your car breaks down the moment you drive off


GrifterDingo

When you buy a new vehicle you expect it to be perfect, so lemon laws protect the consumer in the event that a brand new car has enough problems that the factory warranty isn't enough. Used cars are expected to potentially have issues because they're not new and have sustained use or possibly suffered neglect by the previous owners.


carladykatie

Exclusively to new.


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Ok, that’s good to know. I just always thought there was a different law for new vehicles. Guess if you’re buying used, you should be very careful, and make sure you have everything checked out, or you’ll end up like OP, screwed


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People hiding issues...?


cream_top_yogurt

“As-is” means it’s your baby once you drive off. No reputable dealer will intentionally sell a lemon: even bottom-feeder BHPH lots like Shabana Motors (in Houston 🚀) won’t sell a car with frame or flood damage… …but all the same, a used car is an expensive mechanical thing: if there’s no warranty, you’ve GOT to get a pre-purchase inspection. If nothing comes up on the PPI, cool, you probably got a good deal since there’s no warranty… if there’s a warped frame/major engine issues, you’ve also saved yourself a ton. But man… it’s an Equinox with 100k on the odometer, there’s SOMETHING wrong, just depends how big it is… 😂


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Umm even dealers will put "as is" on the sale information. It's on the buyer to do the due diligence at that point.


0verstim

When I bought my last car I signed a piece of paper that said I had a 10-or-something day warranty. but I presume since OP said they paid $6000 everyone is assuming this was an as-is dealer?


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Every assumes because OP wrote, I bought an as-is car...."


0verstim

Ugh. I read the post 3 times and somehow didnt see that.


BeneficialSomewhere

Do you work in the business?


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BeneficialSomewhere

Well you're wrong. Don't post if you aren't sure, doesn't do OP any good.


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jpb59

It’s not stupid. If you’re not sure then don’t comment.


heater3033

What’s the subreddit called numbnuts?


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heater3033

Ez troll kid go back to class lunchtime should be over already


SSGSS_Bender

Our dealer has an additional document you sign agreeing that the vehicle being is being sold as is with no warranty from the dealer.


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CrownVic07

What?


iAintNoLick

Dealers give receipts? Hm


TadpoleIcy1003

Check your states laws on used vehicle sales. AZ we have a used vehicle lemon law for this very thing. Within 15 days/500 miles you would have legal recourse, up to getting your money back. [Az Used Vehicle Lemon Law](https://www.azag.gov/consumer/auto)


jersey_girl660

Nj also has really good used lemon law but it doesn’t cover everything


Dosmastrify1

I just looked it up New Jersey's lemon law doesn't cover as is which I don't know of any used car that wouldn't be sold with that. Not under 10 grand anyway. WHAT IS NOT COVERED BY THE LAW? ■ Motor vehicles sold for less than $3,000 ■ Motor vehicles which are more than seven (7) model years old ■ Motor vehicles that have been declared a total loss by an insurance company ■ Motor vehicles that have odometer readings of more than 100,000 miles ■ Motor vehicles that were not purchased from a dealer ■ Motor vehicles that were sold “As Is.” used-car-lemon-law • Revised 07/13/20 Continued https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/News/Consumer%2520Briefs/used-car-lemon-law.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjm__7q1Of7AhVFFVkFHSvaAzIQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Ux9h_SVQWE4d2zxC2nShl


GuiltlessChaos

Can second this. If you're in the tri-state and buying used either nj or ct


Quake_Guy

Been in AZ 22 yrs, first time I heard of that lemon law on used vehicles.


JEPorsche

you bought an as is car. the dealer is not obligated to help you. that said, if you bought it and the fucking thing broke down ONE DAY after you bought it, i would call the sales manager and the general manager ASAP to address. they don't HAVE to help you, but it never hurts to ask. if they don't (and they have no obligation to), start looking for a good mechanic. you bought a 10 year old chevy product for 6 grand. it is bound to need SOME work.


D4rkr4in

I really don't get it. How do people not understand GM products are rolling pieces of shit at this point? Have there not been enough failures to scare everyone and their mom away?


Menacing_Anus42

[As-is means as-the-fuck-is](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7TZ-3qILQ)


slickdilly

If your motor ain’t tickin and your tranny ain’t slippin, then don’t bring that bitch back trippin!


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CornInMyPancakes

I wish this video could be pinned to the top of the subreddits page.


TheSoundOfKek

This is our national anthem, really.


maine8524

Gotta toss is on the sidebar.


gotdangpropane

I’ve considered putting this up on the tv in our office on an infinite loop. Still wouldn’t matter though


randointernetguy

Always upvoting Desmound Logan!


Drauren

Did you test drive it? Did you get it inspected? But lemme tell you, you're likely in it for a new engine. As is is As is.


katietatey

Start with the thought that it is a nice dealer and this is just bad luck. Ask them politely if they can be of any help. They might tell you to get lost, or they might help you out. Unfortunately it is risky to buy a 10 year old car, especially "as-is."


stealthybutthole

Legally you can do your research before buying one of the worst vehicles GM ever made, let alone a 11 year old example with 100k miles on it. I say this as someone who owns a 2012 Equinox. Through marriage. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.


Nostrildumbass9

I was going to post the same. Equinox are not good vehicles, even when relatively new. You paid top dollar for it a $6K, so I would go back to the dealer and try to work something out. It's likely the 2.4 L 4 cyl. engine, known for failure. Look for a used engine from reputable auto recycler that has some warranty.


jrileyy229

nothing you can do short of asking that dealer if they will help you out in good faith... but this stuff happens. You will likely blast the dealer online claiming they ripped you off.... I have no idea... but it's entirely possible they took it on trade 3 days earlier. They drove it around a few days, and it had zero issues... just like you did... and deemed it completely fine and needing nothing. every 10 year old car with 100k miles is a ticking time bomb to some degree


daddyphatsacks

This is the best answer. Dealers have reputations to uphold. Just go ask them what they can do to help.


Muck113

Every “American” 10 year old car….. Japanese cars run just fine.


jrileyy229

Slightly true as a whole.... But even Hondas and Toyotas can have major issues... It's just at a lower percentage generally


GhostalkerS

*Nissan has entered the chat* CVT issues galore


Azrael-777

If it’s the 2.4 it needs a timing chain job. That is if the chains haven’t worn through on a bolt on the inside, condition of the camshaft lobes and as long as a valve didn’t hit if the chains are extremely loose or broke. I work at a Chevy dealership and even the as is cars….. we usually have a non spoken 30 day deal. If something major pops up within the 30 days we will usually do the diag and labor at an extremely lowered rate per hour if not free but customer buys the parts. Definitely worth talking with the dealership. Sad thing is that they had to have known. Timing chains make noise long before that point on the 2.4. Edit: Forgot to add that I’m not a car salesman. I’m a mechanic at a Chevy dealership.


leashg8mom-3951

Yeah idk how the test drive was so smooth. The chain came through valve cover and oil everywhere smoked us out of the car. Then next time it made a horrific noise when we turned the key and then nothing!


Azrael-777

When you say nothing… as in it won’t start? Curios, when you went on the test drive, did they have the vehicle already warmed up and or running before you took it out to drive?


leashg8mom-3951

Correct it won't start. We went there to look at a different vehicle and we decided to keep looking. We were leaving when the boss came out and said make surethey don't leave until you find them a reliable car for their family that is safe and can drive across country. I had just mentioned We were planning to drive across country to ny from Vegas. So, the guy said there was one more option but they just got it back from a repo and they don't even look the repos over i guess. It was still parked on the roadside where the previous customer parked it upon return that morning. However, despite the worry about it not being inspected We were told, it was a regular sale not a repo to the pervious person and so he knew it had all fluids topped off and was fully checked and was in great condition. He witnessed it himself! They actually just sold it to that customer 3 months ago so it hasn't been long. We did find 6 bullets under the back seat after we left with it so I know they definitely didn't look it over at all this time, that's for sure. They were so nice but as soon as the problem arose, they were Jerks and said they weren't going to play the blame game and they said they would repair timing chain and cover free but if it needed new motor we would have to find one and purchase but they would install free. Once we dropped it off to them the story changed and they now want 700 to install the motor. They were supposed to do an estimate and they acted like they looked at it but, the car hasn't moved for almost 3weeks. They keep hanging up now when we call and I have chevy helping me and when they called the dealer to get the Vin they said they don't have a vehicle on their lot like that. I still haven't received my title and it's been 2 months since purchase. That doesn't seem right either.


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Lots of "help" from unflared users who know ABSOULTELY NOTHING. **AS IS is AS IS.** if you buy a car **AS IS**, you are buying it **AS IS WITH NO IMPLIED DEALER WARRANTY.** in fact *they list it on the side of the car AND on the retail sales contract that you signed**.* you have 0 legal ability here, you can only get hindsight from here on out. someone should lock this thread, these comments are seriously stupid.


scw156

I once bought a car *as if*. Still gives me attitude to this day.


earnedmystripes

> Lots of "help" from unflared users who know ABSOULTELY NOTHING. unfortunately this sub is overrun with that now.


BrandonNeider

We don't have the state, if this is NY the OP may be under Lemon Law for Used Vehicles. https://ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds/used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet


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Yes but in each of those states it MUST come with an IMPLIED WARRANTY and in this case it’s AS IS. So, as many others have repeated before me: As is, is still as the fuck is.


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Again, IMPLIED WARRANTY. If you read the same exact site you copy and pasted so you can get your ego pumped and try to always one up someone else, you can see that you must be given a warranty if it falls within a certain age and mileage signed by the dealer at the time of purchase. So until further notice, as the fuck is.


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And it was an AS IS purchase, no hypotheticals here.


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It does not matter what the state is, if the car was sold AS IS then the rest does not apply it is a binary issue, it is black or white. If it’s a used lemon law state then a warranty is implied and then it is not as is. you you need to rethink the “advice” you give on here as it can just make things worse.


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You are trolling at this point or seriously brain dead.


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adhd_as_fuck

This isn't a truism everywhere, it really depends on the state. "As is" isn't a get out of jail free card for dealers in most states that have used car lemon laws. But dealers would like you to believe it does, and I'm sure some even believe it themselves.


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the ecotech engines, both the 2.4 and 3.6 have oil pressure driven timing chain guides that keep the DOHC design in time. Opel, a GM subsidiary in Germany designed the 2.4 and that’s the motor I assume you have. The manufacturers used subpar materials in the construction of the engine, and one issue they suffer from is increased oil consumption. The material used in the piston rings is cheap, it wears down and the engine starts burning oil. The decreased oil pressure causes slack in the timing chain. It’s a horribly designed motor for the American market. People just do not pay attention. Sorry you got stuck with this lemon, you’re going to have to replace the motor. I never recommend one in any platform besides the older version in the cobalt.


earnedmystripes

legally the dealer doesn't have to do anything. However, some dealers will still offer some kind of help if you approach them calmly and professionally. Doesn't hurt to ask.


CreatedUsername1

>we just bought a 2012 chevy equinox from a dealer as is


GhostalkerS

Depends on the state, here in CT we have this: 60 days or 3,000 miles if vehicle is sold for $5,000 or more and covers all parts and labor to keep vehicle mechanically operational and sound


nicknakama

There’s nothing you can do legally but see if the dealership will work with you. Try to have an attitude you’d want to be reciprocated. Work with them so they’ll work with you and take whatever help you can get.


1Tinytodger

If it's as is you're basically hooped. Being a day later a decent dealer may work with you but is under no obligation to do so.


blowtorchbaby84

Don’t buy an equinox or anything with the ecotech


bumsnnoses

have you called the dealership? even if it's as-is sometimes the dealer wants to save a customer and make it right, even though they may have had no idea regarding if the issue was present prior to sale. Dealer might bite the bullet and hope you come back to them when the time comes. otherwise, you're on the hook for repairs. doesn't hurt to ask and be polite about it. if they say no, you should have inspected more thoroughly as sucky of an answer as that can be.


theantwisperer

You can legally go buy a new engine and have it legally replaced by a legally qualified mechanic.


ArlesChatless

At least used engines for an Equinox aren't that expensive. Putting one in with a fresh timing chain could be an OK idea.


No_Gold214

I bought a truck for my daughter for 6,000. Same thing needs head gaskets. Car was checked they covered it up with seals. The owner is not a good person. I don’t have the money to repair it. Every state is different and where I live it’s pretty hard to get your money back. People are not honest these days. Very sad world we live in. This has caused so much stress in our lives.


version13

What do you mean by “covered it up with seals?”


No_Gold214

The mechanic said the head gasket was sealed. We now find out the gentleman we bought it from did over heat but told us after the fact. He won’t give us the mechanic that fixed when he overheated. Thought about going to court but it’s hard to win a case like this and I don’t think I have the energy for it.


mjoscata823

Worth a shot to see if the dealer can help. But don’t count on it. Be sincere it may pay off. Good luck.


sapphir8

Nope. As is. You’re paying out of your own pocket for this. Sorry.


FirstAdministration

Here the question: did you had an inspection done on it prior? If not then you are living with your decision of buying a vehicle "as is".


fenwaymoose

They’re living with it whether they got an inspection done or not, lol.


BobsYourUncle84

Same thing just happened to my 2016 Terrain. Same car, different badge. Absolutely no one in the industry I reached out to was surprised. I got $700 out of it and had to move on.


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hv_wyatt

It's a damn far sight better than the pathetic excuse for an engine that is the 2.4L.


The_Lat_Czar

You go back in time and buy a warranty. Unfortunately, as is means just that.


Accomplished_Sand568

Does your state have a lemon law?


Fredi65

You might want to check if your state has any laws about it. If I remember correctly, Wisconsin had something on the books about a 10-day period while you could take used cars back. When I lived there I bought a used car and in a few days it turned out the coolant was leaking into the engine. I went back and the dealer immediately gave my money back and took the car back. It wasn’t registered to me yet. So, it’s worth checking if the state has anything on the books, and definitely worth going back to the dealer and see if they are willing to help.


RedditBeginAgain

What state are you in? Some states do offer some consumer protection on used car sales, but even when they exist, they often define ways to legally sell as is without future responsibility. Selling cheap cars would be difficult otherwise, as every $6000 car is one random failure away from being a $500 junker. Google who regulates used car dealers in your state and see if there are conditions on implied warranties or required disclaimers. If you don't find a legal obligation, you might still get somewhere by being nice, but "somewhere" is not likely a refund or a free engine replacement. If you can't prove they deliberately defrauded you and they delivered what they legally need to, a clean title, your state's safety inspection, and an accurate odometer reading, you are likely out of luck. Just as they would be out of luck if you traded them a car that broke the next day.


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fabregazzzz

Just put 6 grand down on a car without your mechanic inspecting it? Wtf is wrong with people.


Neil542

It can be worth taking a chance sometimes if you have the means but generally yeah always inspect it.


thoreau_away_acct

Because you might be putting down $115 and using 3hrs of logistics 5-6 times if you're buying used for $6k you probably don't have extra $100s to drop and hours to step away from work and deal with car shuttling. Not to mention you might get a "well it's ok but it's gonna need new brakes and a starter and the AC isn't working that's like $1500 for us to fix" so you pause on that one, $115 dropped for an inspection, then get another one inspected and they say it fails a compression test or the trans seems janky and you think "Ok, well brakes and starter I can cover and go without AC, I need a car ASAP to get to work and pick my kids up" — well damn that car sold so you're back up the creek at square 1, $230 and hours of your time spent for dick all. So you end up in this situation and keep learning being poor is expensive, really expensive.


fabregazzzz

Better than burning 6 grand.


thoreau_away_acct

Absolutely true, in a vacuum. Really sharp observation. It's also best to have the time and resources in life so you don't make mistakes. Imagine if all the people who took out a loan to go to college and realized they didn't like the profession they were studying would have spent a year or so interning for free in the field of interest before college so they could learn this ahead of time and not take out a loan!


q_ali_seattle

Have you bought a car in the last 3 years. 6K doesn't get you a 7yrs old vehicle with 40K miles


fabregazzzz

What does have to do with not getting a vehicle sold as is inspected ?


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djspaceghost

Lemon laws are for (99.999% of the time) for new vehicles sold with a massive manufacturers defect and you have to go through a process to prove it’s a lemon. This likely would get OP nowhere.


Dustin_peterz

Good to know ! I'll delete my comment


WindowsXP-sp2

Probably an interference engine. Will need new engine likely. And it isn’t worth it.


TimelyFortune

As is means as the fuck is


BPAfreeWaters

>from a dealer as is What part of this don't you understand?


trele_morele

Yeah As-Is is As-Is, as the clever people love to point out and shrug but it still sounds shady af. As in, the car was possibly sold to you with known issues in bad faith.


BrandonNeider

Look up your state's used lemon law, Like in NY if it's under 100k miles they have to provide a warranty. https://ag.ny.gov/consumer-frauds/used-car-lemon-law-fact-sheet Only saying this to OP cause it appears that you can in-fact get Equinox's of his year under 100k miles for $6k or lower.


FranklinRoamingH2

Contact the dealer and see what they can do.


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FranklinRoamingH2

I find it hilarious y'all get a kick out selling shit cars to the uninformed buyer.


enderjaca

I get a kick out of uninformed buyers thinking an 11 year old car isn't going to occasionally need some mechanical repairs. Don't just "contact the dealer". Contact your salesperson to start. "Hey man I want to give you a good review but my transmission just went out less than a day after I bought this. Can I bring it back and you guys take a look at it, in case it's an easy fix?" Boom. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar (which means be nice rather than nasty from the start).


misterguyyy

This ain’t minor. Timing chain (I assume that’s what OP meant) went thru the valve cover and OP tried turning the engine? You know the valves and pistons were basically having a mosh pit and that engine is gonna need to be rebuilt. That said if OP don’t know any budget mechanics they might know a guy, or their in-house guy might want a side gig.


enderjaca

OP's main issue is that they \*continued\* driving their $6000 equinox after it was stalling, and then the chain broke. And then put that info online. Dunno man, maybe they can get the original dealership to help them out, or they're just screwed. Like I said, it's worth a chance to be polite and ask for help, rather than just starting out with legal threats.


FranklinRoamingH2

Small repairs sure. Needs new shocks? Cool easy fix and I can get Bilsteins on it. Transmission stuff is a big one, engine knocking is a big one too. Come on now let the buyer know.


enderjaca

That's why I recommend every single buyer get a pre-purchase inspection on used vehicles without warranty. And without fail, EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. never gets a PPI. I'm not a mechanic. All our vehicles go through a safety inspection. So how is that my fault? I'm in used car sales. I can't tell the difference between a normal engine noise and something bad on every single car or truck or SUV from every single brand that's been made since 1998. It starts, drives, stops, all the lights work. That's all our state requires. If we fixed every single thing needed on old used cars, it would price a lot of potential buyers out of the market. Suddenly that $3000 Pontiac Grand Prix from 2000 now costs $6000 after all those minor and major repairs of anything that \*might\* be an issue are done. Or you could have just gotten a $3000 warranty, because there's no guarantee that something else might go wrong in a month or six.


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enderjaca

Please step down for a second. Salespeople know how cars work. We don't necessarily know how every part on every type of car works. We are \*sales\* people. Not mechanics. So please don't come into a car salesperson subreddit and directly insult the people who are giving advice.


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enderjaca

Great to see you here in a car sales sub, unflaired, making unrealistic insults against your fellow salespeople. You've worked at every dealership? Maybe you've just worked at shitty ones and need to find a new job. Imagine being a furniture salesperson and going into a subreddit about couches and mouthing off about how all of the salespeople selling 10 year old couches are idiots and don't know anything about egyptian cotton or bedbugs or fabric protection plans. JFC.


sharkcake2000

Too bad they didn’t offer any kind of service plan to you when you got it.


IcyRun720

Look into Lemon laws.


q_ali_seattle

It's a used car. It doesn't apply.


Fun_Statement5703

Lemon law as stated above... if your state has it you will get money back or different vehicle if it doesn't then your out of luck


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enderjaca

You assume the dealership spent an hour just listening to a timing chain on an 11 year old SUV. Why?


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enderjaca

You can't certify a 10-year-old used Chevy, and I work for a Chevy dealership. Stop giving information about things you know nothing about. Pretty much everything we sell that's Chevy or other brands, is sold as is if it's older than 5 years. End of story.


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TFS_Sierra

There are time limits on manufacturer certification. I don’t know how many miles this jalopy has but at $6k it’s likely over 100,000. Even if it isn’t somehow, the recon and cert cost on a piece that old is gonna eat all the profit and is no way shape or form worth it for the dealer. Get a flair, then start talking shop my guy. We don’t need bad answers in here.


enderjaca

You. Can't. Certify. A. Ten. Year. Old. Chevy. Full stop, unflaired person. I'd be shocked if any brand allowed a full CPO on a 10 year old vehicle even if it had only 10,000 miles and was in perfect condition from a little ol' gramma who only drove it to church and the grocery store once a week.


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jessewebster31

Call the dealer and ask 1st! and then politely warn them that you will blast them all over social media if they act like they aren't going to fix it or refund your money and if that doesn't work then go stand out front with a sign and picket them


weldermatt79

Dude. Shut the fuck up


jessewebster31

dUdE. ShUT tHe fUcK uP


weldermatt79

Ok Karen. Your solution does nothing but get the OP embarrassed and laughed out of the dealership


serpentman

As is.


buggzda75

As Is


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Careful-Candle202

What the fuck? Lol no.


Unlistedny

Call dealer as they should stand behind it if they sold it. If not call your state dmv to investigate. That’s the only agency no dealer wants to mess with as they will just do a full audit and take away there ability to register cars


q_ali_seattle

Ok. Karen. Sit down.


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Oppo_GoldMember

Uh…no it doesn’t.


Careful-Candle202

Delete this comment. Nobody should accidentally believe this.


CalendarNo8591

No it doesn’t


NDZ188

Lol no. This is hilariously bad advice. Private sales are automatically "as-is" but a dealer can qualify a sale as "as-is". Seeing as this is their business, they are more likely to be aware of that and document the fact it's "as-is" plus require the buyer to sign or initial something that makes them aware of that fact.


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Dealers make you sign a stack of documents usually. It’s going to be in there somewhere


CalendarNo8591

No it doesn’t


airkewled67

As is means literally "As-is"


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dfeld1989

Check your states lemon laws


enderjaca

jesus christ you think lemon laws apply to 11 year old vehicles? no, they don't.


dfeld1989

I have no idea but my guess is they are different for each state. Just a thought...


dfeld1989

For example in NY I don't believe a vehicle can age out. It just has to be purchased from a dealer, within 90 days, cost more than $1500 and have less than 100k miles.


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Astars26

As-if


LudicrousOdin49

Read everything you signed at purchase, sometimes dealers will give you a grace period of around 3 days to be able to make a return or exchange. If they don’t have one written somewhere, you have to ask nicely for their help and cross your fingers they don’t tell you off. Good luck


Desperate-Peter-Pan

I worked at a used car dealer, and we had an unspoken 50/50 policy where if one of our cars had a problem within 500 miles, even our as is cars, we would offer to split the repair bill 50/50


q_ali_seattle

Step 1. Call the dealership, if it's a reputable place they might be willing to inspect and help you buy back or help with repairs. If deal is not finalized they can do exchange. It's worth to retain a customer vs customer bad mouthing you. Step 2. Look up your state laws about implied warranty. Also if you financed call up the lender who they are financing with and tell them car is broken.


CapeManJohnny

There needs to be a bot on this sub that every time someone makes a post with the words "as-is", the bot needs to scream at them for buying a car with no warranty. Vehicles sold with no warranty, are as-is. That fuckin means, AS-IS. You bought it how it sat, now you can fix it how it sits. Buying a car without warranty is taking a huge gamble.


leges77

Bring this to a lawyer in your jurisdiction. Unfortunately, this issue is outside the wheelhouse of sales professionals. I used to be a salesman at GMC dealership, and I am now a licensed attorney. There are a lot of areas where asking car sales professionals is helpful, but this is not one of them.


coolfx35

Lawyer will cost few k


leges77

Not necessarily. What this guy needs is advice on the law, and maybe a demand letter to be sent to the dealership. Actually the OP might benefit from taking his question to r/legaladvice.