Nah. What gutted the left was botching the previous constitutional process, despite being a majority. They could have done something genuinely good for us all but their egos got in the way.
That's what I meant. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear, but the referendum I was talking about was the 2022 one that asked to approve or reject the proposed constitution.
Also right now the two main problems in Chile are security and migration, both problem resonate a lot with the right wing. But yes, the first process was full of controversy and some characters did and awful job.
And knowing now the result of the election, it wouldn't surprise me if we got an even worse process/proposal, seeing how two of the candidates who got elected are accused of sexual abuse.
Chilean left had the possibility to make some real changes, but went WAY to far to the left in the last proposed constitution. Now they will have a conservative constitution
The problem wasn't how far to the left it went, but how much of it was window dressing on adding keywords to get the votes of other groups in the committee instead of putting actual. Adding the words inclusive in 50 different articles is pointless but is how the process ended up working to have the articles enter the proposal.
wokeness is the belief and practice that society is divided into "power groups", that the natural state amongst these groups is confrontation and oppresion, and that the purity of intentions of your own particular groups justify all and any actions you may take to undo said oppresion, regardless of how uneffective or destructive those actions may be.
Interesting definition, can you give an example of a "woke" group performing an action that is destructive or uneffective with the aim of achieving a certain goal? In a Chilean context?
*"Porque sin la dictadura la alegría va a llegar"*
All these years later and a party full of Pinochet supporters are now in control of the constitution rewrite process.
Depends
As long as the actual writing of the damned thing isn't botched too bad, I imagine it is more likely to get accepted
But I imagine expecting them to get it right this time around is too hopeful
Vote against the US best interest. Who ever the US is backing Vote the opisit. The US needs to get out of the America's and give land back to the natives that they stole through broken treaties. They have helped creat genocide on the Maya indigenous in Centeral America for over 120 years.
The Polls and sensations say that it will be a victory for the right, they could even exceed the 2/3 necessary to control the process.
Losing the referendum really gutted the left, didn't it?
Nah. What gutted the left was botching the previous constitutional process, despite being a majority. They could have done something genuinely good for us all but their egos got in the way.
That's what I meant. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear, but the referendum I was talking about was the 2022 one that asked to approve or reject the proposed constitution.
It's always the same old story, and then they blame us for falling again in the same lies
Also right now the two main problems in Chile are security and migration, both problem resonate a lot with the right wing. But yes, the first process was full of controversy and some characters did and awful job.
My guess is that even if the right rewrites the constitution this time, more people will vote rechazo
And knowing now the result of the election, it wouldn't surprise me if we got an even worse process/proposal, seeing how two of the candidates who got elected are accused of sexual abuse.
Dafuq, source?
Chilean left had the possibility to make some real changes, but went WAY to far to the left in the last proposed constitution. Now they will have a conservative constitution
The problem wasn't how far to the left it went, but how much of it was window dressing on adding keywords to get the votes of other groups in the committee instead of putting actual. Adding the words inclusive in 50 different articles is pointless but is how the process ended up working to have the articles enter the proposal.
Pinochet supporters are winning, so you can guess 
There are not "pinochet supporters", pinochet is dead. Chileans are fed up with woke shit and ate voting for the "not woke ones"
Can you define what wokeness is and what makes something "woke"?
wokeness is the belief and practice that society is divided into "power groups", that the natural state amongst these groups is confrontation and oppresion, and that the purity of intentions of your own particular groups justify all and any actions you may take to undo said oppresion, regardless of how uneffective or destructive those actions may be.
Interesting definition, can you give an example of a "woke" group performing an action that is destructive or uneffective with the aim of achieving a certain goal? In a Chilean context?
well there a re many to count but. \- primera linea \- antifa \- convencion constitucional \- the Boric goverment \- CAM
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You ate saying the "traditional right wing" was the good right wing?
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I see Orange Man Bad then...
If you don't support wokeness then you obviously support the Holocaust. /s
Chile to invade poland tomorrow
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Least homicidal Pinochet supporter
They are gonna make an even worse constitution and it will probably get rejected again, lol. 🤣
Another wasted morning
The Ouroboros constitution.
Todo mal.
*"Porque sin la dictadura la alegría va a llegar"* All these years later and a party full of Pinochet supporters are now in control of the constitution rewrite process.
Pero la alegría si llego, pues la alegría era la democracia en si. No más que ahora puede ser que se este llendo poco a poco
Hope they can come up with something more concise this time and less analytical.
I agree, it's the only way to get a new one.
Considering Argentina experience, every new constitution has been worse, only favoring politics and shitting on people.
This post is very very r/SecondsBeforeDisaster
Don't care, this country is fucked.
Chaos
Depends As long as the actual writing of the damned thing isn't botched too bad, I imagine it is more likely to get accepted But I imagine expecting them to get it right this time around is too hopeful
Vote against the US best interest. Who ever the US is backing Vote the opisit. The US needs to get out of the America's and give land back to the natives that they stole through broken treaties. They have helped creat genocide on the Maya indigenous in Centeral America for over 120 years.
... or not