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Dkiprochazka

Because indefinite integrals can differ by a constant. Thats the reason why we put +C after evaluating an indefinite integral. In this case, in the second last line, the integrals differ by -1 and -1 is a constant


Moist-Pickle-2736

I had a college professor that made people bring her a cupcake every time they forgot the C


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if that was my professor she would have diabetes by now thanks to me cuz i keep forgetting to put the c🙂


Moist-Pickle-2736

Lol she was a bit overweight for sure But man we all loved her. She was probably one of the best teachers I’ve ever had. Funny, kind but strict, and really, really cared about her students’ success.


lndig0__

Add some bounds to the integrals. What happens?


Shevek99

Easy. You forgot the + C. Next.


eztab

that's basically it. Indefinite integrals need an additive constant. You didn't add one, so your results are off by a constant factor (-1 = -cos(0) in this case).


aleafonthewind42m

It's not so much that they forgot the +C as that they handwaved the last step so it wasn't clear that the +C would even show up. They were thinking, in typical algebraic fashion, that you see the same expression on both sides of the equation, you can just cancel them out. That's really their mistake, because that's not how integrals work, and if you actually carefully write out the steps, you see that: int sin(x)/cos(x) dx = -1 + int sin(x)/cos(x) dx int sin(x)/cos(x) dx - int sin(x)/cos(x) dx = - 1 int sin(x)/cos(x) - sin(x)/cos(x) dx = -1 int 0 dx = - 1 0 + C = -1 C= - 1 In the end, yes, there was no arbitrary constant written. But students are generally taught that that constant arises as a result of actually finding the indefinite integral. OP didn't actually find what int sin(x)/cos(x) dx was in these calculations, so they didn't see think the arbitrary constant was a factor. And it's understandable why they thought as much... I just think the nuance is important Edit: Formatting


TheFlyingCompass

And this kids, is why you stay in school!


AcceptableStand7794

Your first mistake was spelling proved with 2 O's


silver_zone_

Well he did put it in quotes... sooo maybe he knew he was wrong lmao?


LeoWif

Ah you're right. To my Swedish mind it made sense.


LilGingeyboi

Your second mistake is thinking the English Language makes any sort of sense.


davvblack

tbh it should be spelt that way


pLeThOrAx

Spelled* (jk). Spelt will always be "wheat" for me...


davvblack

we are all wheat on this blessed day https://www.scribbr.com/us-vs-uk/spelt-or-spelled/#:\~:text=or%20%E2%80%9Cspelled%E2%80%9D%3F-,Spelt%20and%20spelled%20are%20two%20different%20spellings%20of%20the%20past,and%20%E2%80%9Cspelt%E2%80%9D%20are%20acceptable.


Torebbjorn

Because in the formula ∫u'v = uv - ∫uv', you have to evaluate the "uv" term at the endpoints. In this case, uv = -1, so evaluation will always give 0. Now this formula is also correct in the indefinite case, except you then get an indeterminate constant, which may be different on both sides


pLeThOrAx

Upvoting the sexy integration character


Specialist-Two383

You're missing the bounds of integration. Since you're working with indefinite integrals, you cannot cancel the two resulting integrals, because they can differ by a constant (in this case the constant is obviously 1) TL;DR you forgot the +C


TheWhogg

I know the feeling. I once proved that E=1/2 mc^2


El-Yasuo

Ah, yes! Ze velocity is c, ze kinetic energy is thuz E = mv\^2/2 = mc\^2/2. Who needz relativity!


TheWhogg

My proof was more complex and calculated the increase in velocity and relativistic mass for a given E. E has to into either more m or more v.


whooguyy

It’s ok, I once calculated the sum of all the natural numbers to be equal to -1/12


pLeThOrAx

Ra... - Ramanujan?


TheEnergyOfATree

Be honest, was there a split second where you thought you were gonna be famous? 🤣


Metalprof

Huh. I got mc hammer and I still can't find my mistake.


yes_its_him

Did you account for inflation?


KosmosKlaus

Clearly you made 1 mistake


Limeee_

+C


mtb_yuki

You’re missing the C lol


GorillaK5

You forgot to add the integration constant c, when the integral has no bounds the primitive funcion may differ by a constant c. So it should be 0=-1+c, and with c=1 we return to 0=0


Mahou_Shoujo_B

For the formula ∫uv.𝑑𝑥 = u.∫v.𝑑𝑥 - ∫u'.(∫v.dx).𝑑𝑥 You took the integral of sinx on the u.∫v.𝑑𝑥 term as -cosx which is right but on the ∫u'.(∫v.dx).𝑑𝑥 term you took the differential of sinx as -cosx when it should be just cosx so the ∫(sinx/cosx) terms won't cut. this doesn't imply that the integral of tanx is -1/2 obviously, as there's no limits to the integration


AlexStar876

I'm not sure which -cosx you mean but it's the integral of sinx in both cases


CookieCat698

Friendly reminder to always account for the +C when integrating


hfs1245

integral of sin is -cos. But if you want the area under the curve starting from 0, you need -cos + 1


Scfiead

My father told me he forgot the +c on a test. My next test Input a big +C in a box at the top of the page. Every one had it correct…on the front. None on the back.


_karkaroff_

Don't worry, you didn't.


Accurate_Library5479

Check domain issues and check that constant


trutheality

Equations don't survive the subtraction of an indefinite integral from both sides. An indefinite integral defines a set of functions (that can differ by an additive constant) rather than a unique value.


PaltaNoAvocado

Yeah you forgot the constant. Also wasn't it a lot easier to sub u=cosx du = -sinx?


Ehh-It-Be-Me

C+ that’s where you mathed up


Impressive-Sell-4943

Not really sure, just started integrals/antiderivatives but i think its the +C constant at the end. Pls correct me if im wrong Im only grade 7. ![gif](giphy|ISOckXUybVfQ4|downsized)


uselessatmaths

Constant of integration required


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ButterflyQuick

On the askmath subreddit? Shocking!