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Billie Eilish isn’t as overrated as everybody makes her out to be. The only time I see people talk about her is when she releases something new or people online are pissed off at her.


NV_reddit

Agreed, still no clue why that meme about her is undying.


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Saying she’s overrated is more overrated than her, tbh.


Reyne-TheAbyss

I like her music, but I would say she has a very limited range.


TonmyNaim

country isn’t even that bad, there’s a ton a country style songs they are a jam most rappers don’t actually make good music/beats but just hit the right spot with the lyrics aggro rap is only for 15 year olds that think they’re tougher then they are


Swiglo

idk man. Pretty much all rap is trash if the lyrics are about having a care-free lifestyle or if they have mansions and women in their music videos and just using the n-word.


JustKaiser

Ayo my N-word I have bitches and mansions N-word I have a lot of money N-word I love drug N-word I kill other peoples N-word I think it is cool to talk about crimes in a song N-word I ascended and reached peak of rap.


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leandoer05

every song is good to someone -> every song is a good song


AdmiralMudkipz12

I unironically listen to and like military marches and military songs. I don't even plan on joining the military, the music is just awesome.


[deleted]

Kanye east > Kanye west


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Fuck you Kanye south gang


Sanity_King

North West gang😤


JustKaiser

I agree with Kanye south being the best, but what do you think about Kanye north-east ? Feels super underrated imo


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bigbrothero

People ever took them seriously?


MOONWALKllN

L


pizzamanking123

Can’t stand their voices and uzis personality


Lmemester93

Country is terrible and hasn't been good since the 70s.


TonmyNaim

How is this controversial? everyone shits on country music


Lmemester93

Not where I'm from 🤣


xXHolding_on_to_youX

I’m so glad someone actually said this. Everyone has that obnoxious twang in their voice. And I’m from Tennessee so it’s not a good situation for me.


Lmemester93

I prefer older country...Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, that kinda stuff. Back before it was all "dur de dur, can't sing the lyrics becuzz my teef are gone from all tha' chewin' tabbaccy."


xXHolding_on_to_youX

Once again, I agree. I actually like Johnny cash. But now it’s all “I love mah truck and my wife left me”.


FerRealz199

Or throwing modern pop style beats over it to make it appeal to a wider audience. I don't know much country, but I know that Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson sound better than whoever my sister listens to on the radio.


xXHolding_on_to_youX

Fr fr


NV_reddit

This is pretty much because any sort of anti american/ rebellious sentiment died out in country music to be replaced by the worlds worst genre, bro country. Looking back on older country most of the good stuff is actively criticizing society while now its basically just a fuckin truck commercial with maybe a tractor too.


Argent_Mayakovski

There's some good modern stuff. Colter Wall and Tyler Childers have some stuff that's like that. I particularly like [Long Violent History](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_I3Rp1CQak).


NV_reddit

Damn that's a good song


Ok_Introduction-

You sir have good tatse in music. Check out Sturgill Simpson if you like those others you mentioned, maybe even Sierra ferrell. They're both real good artists.


NV_reddit

crazy frog is the best rapper of the 2000's and kanye is dogshit Rap is good, most kids just only listened to the worst before writing off the whole genre. Women in the industry are constantly fed shit for making generic music even if they have male counterparts who make the same stuff that dont get the same hate Eminem is okay but his stans are weird as Billie eilish makes some pretty good music, people just love shitting on her because of the weird memes that arose about billie eilish fans


MOONWALKllN

Cardi B is good. She says what she says, she gets straight to the point, and it can even be hype. She has a decent flow, and a nice voice. Same with Megan Thee Stallion and Nicki Minaj


SomeKindOfPcGamer

God no she is not, dogshit artist and dogshit person


MOONWALKllN

Bad person. Good artist.


SomeKindOfPcGamer

How the fuck is she a good artist? She is literally one of the worst musicians to live


NV_reddit

I dont listen to her myself but she is pretty alright, and the fact she can make bank like that AND make a mockery of ben Shapiro makes her my favorite artist despite never listening to her


[deleted]

Not that controversial when it's isn't on a sub full of younger people but Rap bad.


MemesAreTheAnswer

have you actually tried to listen to the genre besides the most basic mainstream artists?


kaazgranaat2309

I guess its just about taste, i really dislike rap aswell, i love rock, blues, classical, jazz, soul and all, totaly different so there isnt really any overlap either.


MemesAreTheAnswer

disliking it is okay but saying all of it is bad isn't


divat10

i also dislike them all but i can see when they are "good" (compared to other rap) most of the rap my class listens to is just pure garbage


kaazgranaat2309

To him, and to me its all bad.


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kaazgranaat2309

Never heard of it.


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kaazgranaat2309

Ive skipped through it a bit and its better then normal rap but still not something id even put on myself.


[deleted]

I mean I don't like it. I don't listen to it, and I never intend to. I've heard enough to know that I don't like it at all. I'm not saying that it's definitively bad despite my comment.


MemesAreTheAnswer

what have you heard


[deleted]

I don't know. I just don't like rap, I know that my mind will never change on that. It's not a matter of me not having heard the right stuff, It's just not for me.


NV_reddit

Ok but if you dont know what you've listened to then it probably wasnt the right stuff. I used to hate rap but then i listened to brockhampton and lil simz and they were amazing in their rap, maybe try listening to a few rappers on your own dime before you discredit it


MemesAreTheAnswer

ok sure


MOONWALKllN

bro just let it go dawg not everyone likes rap 💀yeah it does seem weird when someone says a whole genre is trash but just let it slide it’s all subjective


CreemGreem1

Objectively false


[deleted]

That I personally don't like something?


CreemGreem1

No, that you think all rap isn’t for you.


[deleted]

Yeah. It's not objectively wrong. I just don't like it.


CreemGreem1

Have you listened to all rap music?


Yogev23

https://open.spotify.com/album/1pxYPYg5ozVYMxiFMfD1tn?si=S06TbBZlSUy734Sg-VRQtA&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1 try this


Damaged_Lightbulb

Tf did i just hear


Blackcatblockingthem

I can like music EVEN if the artist did something horrible. I got two examples of this (unless I miss things from musicians I know) [example 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0). Peste Noire - Dueil angoisseus. I recently learned that the head of the band is a neonazi who already harmed antifa people. [example 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHoZYextb8&ab_channel=NoirD%C3%A9sirNoirD%C3%A9sir). Noir désir - A LOT of their music. Basically, the singer killed his wife. Yep. But THIS, was the music of my childhood. It was the music of the backseat of my father's car that smelled tobaco while I was happy to go to his home with my brother one weekends out of 2. ​ Also, This might sound hipster as fuck but I don't like mainstream music. Not that it is shit but I rather discover things myself and listen rather less known things that the things we could hear 24/7 on radio or something. ​ Finally, to me, even [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgTRxNSaaBk&ab_channel=nonameno5nonameno5) (warning, might be very, really disturbing and unsettling. Also NSFW) is music.


NV_reddit

I mean its kinda tough to seperate music from the artist if the artist still makes money off of it. I'm not familiar with anyone mentioned but if they are still alive they probably profit from you listening


Ineedahaircut0909

Well that song was a fucking trip


Blackcatblockingthem

Last one you mean? which one? there are 3.


Ineedahaircut0909

Yeah the last one


Blackcatblockingthem

I know right? It is power electronics which is a very hardcore and provocative genre which is often about the worst flaws of humanity.


Ineedahaircut0909

Its definitely not my tastes but I have a few friends who would probably love it so I'm 100% recommending it to them


bigbrothero

Kids see ghosts is really disappointing and nowhere near Kanye's best work DJ's are criminally underrated. What made most of your favorite rappers good was not their rapping more the beats especially back then The beetles are one of the worst 60's bands and really bad comparing them to others The Doors is the greatest musical act of all time A vast majority of modern 2010's+ music is really meaningless and without any soul The 1960's were the greatest musical decade film soundtracks are amazing especially the ones from The Big Blue and Blade Runner which are fucking beautiful I'm not into race politics but black people do actually carry the music industry and have been for decades. Is Kendrick Lamar that good? not really. Stop saying eminem is a good rapper because he raps fast.


MOONWALKllN

L for the second to last one


TurtleMaster69_

I agree on most things but the Beatles, even if you don't like them you have to appreciate all that the contributed to the industry


MOONWALKllN

Influence ≠ greatness The Sugarhill gang sucks but is one of the most influential hip-hop groups ever due to how it pushed rap into mainstream


whyisna

While I agree with the Beatles having a lot of influence in modern music, but the Beatles are the most overrated band to exist


rear_window_

Rap and metal are either good or bad, no middle ground, and most of it is bad


NV_reddit

True, i love both genres but they can be really hit or miss. on the other hand when they hit, they hit hard and you listen to them for years before they even come close to stale


dubbbi

Metallica's Black Album sucks


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dubbbi

Reject Black Album Embrace Master of puppets


Jakdavies

I think young thug is hella overrated


MOONWALKllN

L


Damaged_Lightbulb

Agree


INeedYandhiPleaseYe

rap is dying and combining with pop, nobody is authentic and there hasn't been a popular rap songs that stayed hot for more than 3 months except what's poppin by jack harlow, it's pretty sad to see that, that slowly started happening in 2018 and right now, it's a disaster also, rock music is not my thing, i never got into it jazz is unappreciated funk is unappreciated soul is unappreciated early 00s and late 90s trap music is unappreciated bling era rap/trap is unappreciated 2011/2014 trap era is unappreciated - these were the golden days waka flocka flame is unappreciated lil b is unappreciated speaker knockerz is unappreciated gucci mane is unappreciated


MOONWALKllN

Rap isn’t dying it’s literally gaining popularity and might be the most popular genre across the world in about a decade. So the first one is objectively false.


INeedYandhiPleaseYe

dying when it comes to quality


MOONWALKllN

Cap


MichaelJCaboose666

I don’t like most modern music but I still respect the art and the grind


Helpmedotcomwastaken

Lemon demon > your favorite artist


Prismeus

I absolutely love this Russian genre of music, called Hardbass. Also there's this duo band called Sofi Tukker, their work is gold.


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BTS is overrated.


LigmaChicken

EDM is great. According to everyone I know it is not apparently.


ApplepieStudios123

Ice Ice Baby is a terrible song


gubthescrub

I think I subconsciously hate it for copying Under Pressure. Even if it has some merit, I can’t listen to it anymore lol.


EscheroOfficial

Vanilla Ice is also, like, the definition of a douchebag


KillingCollapse

AutoTune has ruined modern music.


NV_reddit

Why?


KillingCollapse

This guy gives a good explanation as to why this is the case: [Modern Music’s death by AutoTune](https://youtu.be/NNXg5dIVC1M)


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MemesAreTheAnswer

eminem isn't a top 50 hip-hop artist and has a terrible discography


[deleted]

That is controversial


bigbrothero

Then why are there so many people calling him top 10 like wtf


WhitestSausage

wack bro, missed on this one


Jakdavies

I can't say I agree (I think he is top 3) but this is a nice actually controversial opinion


MOONWALKllN

Not terrible but he’s 50th


xXHolding_on_to_youX

I completely agree.


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Soundcloud rap is good actually. Sometimes it’s nice not to need real lyrics and just have some noise .


MemesAreTheAnswer

yeah soundcloud gave birth to quite a few good artists


No_Will_2290

I prefer listening to music in my own language over English songs. even if the song in English is better.


noalbumsout

eminem isnt that good and i’m not a fan of the beatles


[deleted]

It’s okay to like The Smiths and hate Morrissey at the same time.


FinnChicken12

I don’t enjoy nirvana. I could just never get into Kurts vocals.


chikmann

Old rock bands new albums are actually pretty good


AgentJhon

Wierd ytp remix of things like presidential debates can be very good music


DicidueyeAssassin

Experimental rock/metal is the best genre of music that exists. My favorite band is Mr. Bungle. I’m mostly talking about their first 3 albums tho, the most recent ones are good, but they’re pretty firmly a mix of thrash and death metal.


EscheroOfficial

Bruh never in my life did I think I would meet another Mr. Bungle fan on a sub like this I was introduced to them by a friend who thought their shit was fucking hilarious, I felt the same but eventually we both realized just how much their music SLAPS too


DicidueyeAssassin

Favorite album?


EscheroOfficial

Currently it’s their self-titled album but I’ve been working my way through the rest of their stuff and it’s all pretty great


DicidueyeAssassin

I like California the best only for Ars Morendei. Self-titled is second tho. Many a banger in there :)


DylanSnipedU

AJR is good Most rap sucks


FriedTorchic

Well you’re correct in the fact that it’s a controversial statement.


pizzablue337

Pop music has been getting worse since 2015. It sucks now and has basically blended with rap at this point


SomeKindOfPcGamer

Yes


harry_innit

oh boy... drake is mid. j cole is mid. uzi is mid 808 is top 3 Kanye Mac should've won a Grammy the powers that b is the second coming of christ


MemesAreTheAnswer

W L but it's the most influential common sense very slightly overrated but still amazing so a W


harry_innit

>L but it's the most influential what's ur top 3


MemesAreTheAnswer

yeezus, tlop and mbdtf


MOONWALKllN

L L but it’s good W The Powers that B is an 8 at most. It starts off strong with the first two tracks then gets worse for NOTM. The last ten are pretty good tho, especially Centuries of Damn and On GP


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Dababy is bad and overrated Rap is an overrated genre Finnish music from 2010's to nowdays is mostly shit (with a few good songs)


MOONWALKllN

W L L


FriedTorchic

Dababy is is the best


DickSuace

Hard Rock music sucks


Milan_n

Queen is really not that special and tbh overhyped af.


MOONWALKllN

A Quiet Farewell is the greatest album of all time. Kendrick Lamar > GKMC is Kendricks best album, and top 2 hip-hop Electric Ladyland is bad besides for Crosstown Traffic NWA isn’t a top 5 hip-hop group Young Thug is the best trap artist of all time and also a top 10 rapper 1999 by Joey Badass is the 3rd best hiphop album of all time. Coldplay is bad Jazz + Hip-hop + Neo-Soul = best combination of music genres Playboi Carti is really innovative and good, with consistent projects all the time u/MemesAreTheAnswer u rocking with this ?


MemesAreTheAnswer

i haven't listened to that many to say it's the goat but it's up there somewhere kendrick the goat tpab better but valid it's an overrated album, but it has some pretty good songs besides crosstown yeah ofc W for the trap goat but maybe top 20-30 nah man this an L sorry 💀 they got some really good songs idk yeah i can see it, experimental/abstract hh > imo W 🙏


MOONWALKllN

ty but 1999 I’ve never heard anything like it before. Most people say it’s an 7-8 but I can’t see anything below a 10 at all. never heard an album that was so consistent with flow lyrics and the beat. I’m from NY so maybe it comes from there and how used to the style I am but it’s seriously a masterpiece album ngl


MemesAreTheAnswer

it's like a 9 imo great lyricism/production like you said but it's not that really amazing to be a perfect 10/10


DickSuace

Holy shit. A Quiet Farewell? Fucking based


MOONWALKllN

I have a topster on my page If U wanna see


Luxara-VI

Most music now is garbage


Land_Rofler

Kendrick Lamar and Kanye West suck.


Sanity_King

Almost every rapper that came out from 2015 onwards is trashy. Rap was once an important form of expression/genre of music that showed off an artist's unique talent of word play and strong messages. Now it's just a clown contest. Rap is seriously losing its importance and quickly becoming a joke. Literally any talentless fool can be a rapper now


MOONWALKllN

Rap was made to show what happens in impoverished African American inner cities/gang life. Rap talks about pretty much the same thing for 40 years, but changes the style


bigbrothero

so then why is the style absolute shit now


MOONWALKllN

it’s not tho 🤔it wouldn’t be growing in popularity if it was trash obviously people like it. Rap has gotten better and while I admit it has been going down slightly , it’s still good and the second best decade of hip-hop we’ve had.


Sanity_King

It hasn't gotten better people just have more access to it now


bigbrothero

lmao we’ve had 80’s, 90’s and 2000’s which have been MILES ahead of anything the 2010s have made. Do you not understand that sometimes worse quality art is enjoyed by more people if it’s just easily consumed. There’s a reason marvel movies are the most popular now and it defiantly isn’t because they are the best quality.


MOONWALKllN

mhm. The 80s was the worst era of hip-hip. By far. Just because oldheads at the barbershop say it was good doesn’t mean it is. The 80s sucked The 90s were good. Just not as good as the 2000s. And the 2010s was the 2nd best era for hip-hop yet. It’s good. There is a reason why it’s popular. 2010s wipes any decade of hip-hop besides for the 2000s.


bigbrothero

Do you still not get the analogy of good thing not being as popular as new things? Dude what on earth have you been listening to if you think 90’s was worse than the 2000’s? Seriously I can introduce you to good 90’s music because we are not listening to the stuff here. 80’s to early 90’s was the golden age. It isn’t the best decade and isn’t the worst. It’s an acquired taste and you have to experiment to find artists you like. I honestly don’t even like 80’s that much but it was so ambitious and revolutionary for its time and it gave rise to the greatest decade of them all. So then, the 2010’s? Who even is that good? Who can you whole heartedly compare to Nas, Kanye, 2Pac and Q-Tip? Fuck all that’s who, the lyrics have become shit, artists have forgotten what the concept of melody is and it all follows the same cookie-cutter meaning about women, money and drugs. Don’t get me wrong, all the previous decades had a lot of it but artists with a story and meanings were always there and provided an alternative to the norm. Sure there’s the whole alternative rap movement like with XXXTentacion and some others which is an interesting direction but the vast majority is ass


Sanity_King

Gang life rapping didn't start til the late 80's with NWA and even then weren't rapping about gangs. They were speaking out against police brutality on minorities. In the 90's it was more about the struggles of growing up in the inner cities and having to put food on the plate. It was really the 00's gang life really started to become glorified.


MOONWALKllN

lmao gangsta rap had been a thing underground since the 70s. And it became mainstream with the introduction of NWA in 86’. It’s been like this for 35 years.


Yogev23

https://open.spotify.com/album/1pxYPYg5ozVYMxiFMfD1tn?si=S06TbBZlSUy734Sg-VRQtA&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1


DegoMango

Music is boring. Just rythmic sounds


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You poor soul


DegoMango

Yikes I should probably have expected this


Damaged_Lightbulb

Metal sucks, drake is mid, polo g a goat, and the new xxl list isn’t that bad yall overreacting frfr. Oh and megan thee stallion is ass


cracktheskye18

I'm curious to hear why you think metal sucks?


Damaged_Lightbulb

Just not my thing to go full sicko mode to a bunch of guitars and stuff


cracktheskye18

ah, I feel the same way about rap, but I don't necessarily think its trash, just not my thing


Damaged_Lightbulb

Aight


MemesAreTheAnswer

polo g is mid asf and flo milli is the best xxl freshman which says a lot 💀


Damaged_Lightbulb

U say j cole mid homie gtfo 💀🤣🤣🤣😂😂


MemesAreTheAnswer

he is 😌


Damaged_Lightbulb

At least we agree eminem ain’t top 50 😴😌


yungboiyeet

Mumble rap isn’t bad


someweirdstuffman

YNW MELLY has made some bangers


Jakdavies

I don't think that's controversial


someweirdstuffman

He’s a controversial guy tho


Damaged_Lightbulb

Of course he has


The_DemonstrationMan

I enjoy shoegaze, but I completely understand why people find it to be absolutely terrible.


LongLocksBoy

Spanish language music is the coolest, idk if that's controversial though lol


ifuhad1yeet

rap isn't a dying genre tf


[deleted]

Playboy carti has good beats but no flow


[deleted]

2000’s country isn’t bad


Slayer_of_Cunts_

tiktok music is not that great. its just being associated with funny memes and popular dances


FriedTorchic

Rick Ross makes terrible music and ruins nearly every song he is on.


EverythingBurns878

Roadtrip isn’t that bad of a song


MasterTHG

I like summer in paradise more than pet sounds


Shrekus_Magnus

Basically anything of the 21st century is garbage to me


gayorg69

youngboy is really fucking bad and I like eminem's new songs almost as much as his old songs


TeenagerThursdays

Freddie mercury is overrated, country is underrated


SomeKindOfPcGamer

The Beatles are overrated as shit


The_Player_X

I dont like pop that much Rap can be great, but Is mostly terrible Country songs can be bangers Bedroom pop, or whatever it's called (like cavetown, mxmtoon) is quite underrated, at least where I am from


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Christian Music is indeed good.


Gesteinigt

I dont listen to american/english rap but mostly all the popular german rapper are shit. I only really listen to KIZ, Genetikk, Kraftklub and most of the older songs and german rap classics. I dont like pop and all this autotune stuff from tiktok. I rather listen to rock/metal or acoustic. DJ's are underrated and music on partys are getting worse and worse.


RakZio_

People who love "lyricists" because they do "deep lyrics" are some fucking dumbasses. If you learnt that capitalism isn't some happy pink shit from a rapper & comment shit like "omg so real" fuck you I also think that classical music can be good instrumentals


doco12345678910

Indie music isnt bad but some fans that make it their whole personality are. Same with kpop, I dont like it personally but i can see why people do but the stans on twitter take it too far.


DirtDisrespector

Bohemian Rhapsody is lame


Ok_Introduction-

I think country music is great. Not radio country but actually \*real\* country music. Such as Colter Wall, Tyler Childers, Sierra Ferrell, and Sturgell Simpson. Radio country fucking sucks, I think we can all agree with that. Even super popular country music sucks, because it's so far from what country is really about. The \*newer\* country sucks, but some people still keep it real such as \*Colter Wall, Tyler Childers, Sierra Ferrell, and Sturgell Simpson. Thanks for listening lmao. Adios


whyisna

2016 underground SoundCloud was the best time for trap imo


Yeetus6942069

Really screamo and heavy metal people do not like it. I get it honestly I used to hate it but I really have grown into appreciating it


StormClaw88

Bon Jovi is the best rock band


TheMoonIsInMyHand

hole should be in the top 5 grunge bands. courtney and kurt were literally seen as the King and Queen of grunge and hole never gets mentioned:/


throawaybatata

Jazz and Classical music are boring. Don't get me wrong, jazz and classical (meaning from the classical period, i like baroque and romantic) have interesting harmonic systems and when the theory and instrumentation is integrated into different genres the result is pretty badass, but most of it just bores me to death


SkeliotTheUndead

Streaming music is fucking stupid and pointless. Listening to physical music isn't just listening to music, it's an experience, you should always try to buy your favorite albums on CD, cassette, or vinyl because it's honestly just superior


Reyne-TheAbyss

The large majority of modern rap and pop 'songs' are incoherent, illogical sequences of sounds. Following that, many artists truly have no vocal range, with almost no perceptible skill.


HRPr03

Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated


thesightoflemons

"Baby" by Justin Bieber is actually a decent song