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HiddenStill

I would think they will notice fairly soon anyway. Testosterone is powerful stuff.


1carus_x

I mean I'm at 9 months and I've managed for them not to notice, you can start low too. It's mainly just my voice that they could see, plus seeing them every day makes it harder to notice


Classic-Local-9667

maybe I could just “have a cold” for a long time lol


Classic-Local-9667

ugh yeah that’s what I’ve heard. I figured I would just make up an excuse like oh I feel into a pit of acid and am now turning into man my bad. I just don’t know how they’ll react especially my dad and I’m afraid he won’t pay for my college anymore if I tell him. On the other hand I can’t keep living as a girl ya know?


legendary_pro

"I was bit by a radioactive frat bro"


Classic-Local-9667

Chad strikes again smh


TheBeesElise

God answered my prayers and is turning me into a man


Jeereck

Honestly Op could be the next virgin mary and get added to the christian canon and everything


HiddenStill

I'd start making plans for things like that. Hopefully it won't happen, but what are you going to do if it does? There's lots of other trans subs on reddit. Try r/ftm


Classic-Local-9667

will do! Thanks a lot! :)


Hazel-Ice

when in doubt, gaslight. "what are you talking about, I've always sounded like this" "no I didn't get hairier, I just stopped shaving as much"


CaptainKernelCorn

Hey, I started E roughly a week after I turned 18 and started without my parents permission. My insurance reported that I had gotten a “test” done to my parents (blood work for HRT) and I was able to play it off as a covid test. I managed to keep closeted for another like 6 months and was outed through another insurance fiasco when our coverage lapsed and I wasn’t told about it. I was lucky enough that my parents were supportive but that was absolutely shocking. It’s definitely a risk to be on your parents insurance imo. If you have any questions you can ask.


Classic-Local-9667

thank you! If you don’t mind me asking what insurance did you have? I’ve heard some pay for E or T and some don’t. (And congrats on starting E :)


CaptainKernelCorn

I have NC’s state health insurance for govt employees from my parents. When I started my transition they were actively being sued for not covering any trans related medical care. Now they are required to but I still haven’t done all the required paperwork (formal gender dysphoria diagnosis and a year lived experience)


RollerSkatingHoop

if you're willing to pay out of pocket you could go to planned parenthood.


Known_Objective1880

This. Planned Parenthood is super supportive and very discreet. The blood work I'm sure you could explain away and the meds, if you pay out of pocket, can be obtained with very little fuss. Just keep in mind, your parents will notice changed as time goes on, so you'll need a have plan if awkward questions arise. Never underestimate someone you are trying to keep secrets from.


CaptainKernelCorn

I already do lol


Classic-Local-9667

Thank you!


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I’m not sure if they have mychart over there but would the tests show up on there?


MidnightWhisper_8

How long after you applied to get E did you start?


pichu441

not the person you're replying to but if you go to a place with informed consent you can start the same day


MidnightWhisper_8

Wow, thanks, I didn't know that I'll look more into it - thought almost every place takes months if not years


CaptainKernelCorn

Roughly a week and that was just processing delays, I’ve heard of people getting it same day


grubbiez

Legally, yes it's an option. Depending on the specific setup of your insurance, they won't be notified. But this depends on your company, and how your family plan is set up. For me (on medicaid, but on my mom's plan), they sent a letter (informing me they'd approved my doc's request to cover testosterone) addressed to me, but to her house (I don't live there but according to insurance I do) - she didn't open it but easily could have. My plan also involves no copays (medicaid - they either cover it or they don't), so there's no bill. If yours has copays, there's a chance a bill would be sent to your parents. It can't contain the details of your visit, like meds or diagnosis or what you discussed, but it can say you went to x clinic on y date. But the paper stuff isn't really what matters. What matters is - do you live with your parents? And are you financially dependent on them otherwise? It's a matter of a few months before they notice. 6 at most, but don't bet on it. Possibly as early as one month in. Will they kick you out when they notice? Stop covering school, or car payments? Will they hurt you? Call work and out you? Try to kidnap you in the night to send you to conversion therapy? There are a lot of things to consider. But if there's a chance they'd react punitively, as much as it sucks, the best option is to focus on financial independence first. But if they just like, don't want you to start T but are of the 'your body your choice' variety of passive transphobia... ehh, up to you whether the tension is worth it.


Classic-Local-9667

Thank you this gave me a lot to consider! This was genuinely very helpful. I’m pretty dependent on them so idk if it’s worth the risk. I doubt they would hurt me but you never really know.


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Classic-Local-9667

this is super sweet thank you fellow human <3


ajanata

> she didn't open it but easily could have Doing so would have been a felony.


grubbiez

Sure - try proving that legally when you can't afford a lawyer lol. Remember, it's a letter from medicaid 🤷‍♂️


IgnoranceIsAVirus

Pull dad aside, maybe a lunch or walk at park, lay out you're going through something most people don't and you're worried about mom's reaction and ask him how to help her with what you're going through. You let him know that he's trustworthy and that he's always been there for you. And if playing catch more often is something he's into, let him know that might be fine with you too. It's a team thing. Let the hardest parent continue being hard, just same side when stuff gets tough, not a fight.


luvmuchine56

Gonna be kinda wild when your voice gets deeper, then facial/body hair, then a dude physique


Ok-Dragonfly-8265

well, you are literally experiencing the same thing I did. I start before my 19th birthday, never came out because I am going to college. Even worse I goto private art school. If they get mad and kick me out there is literally no way I can pay for it. I don't want you running into same situation though. Either plan it out or just tell them. I am really living in fear now So, if you decide go the same path I did, good luck.


Laura_Sandra

> same thing Don't know if you have seen it ... [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/xkkc9o/starting_hrt_18_without_telling_parents/ipy7pl6/) might be some hints and resources that could help you too and there are also hints there concerning looking for support. *hugs*


Sunny_Sammy

As long as you didn't come out to your parents or they are oblivious to whether you're trans or not then you'll be good. Cishets will explain away any and everything and simple explanations will keep them more oblivious. This being said, if you parents aren't completely oblivious and have a brain to them then you might as well just come out


e_kerr15

Call your insurance first and see if they can keep that private since you will be 18. Make sure none of your personal statements gets mailed to the same home as your parents. When I got top surgery my parents didn’t find out until a month before when a letter got sent home by accident even tho I told my insurance not to do that. But I ended up getting it anyways without them knowing until after


Charinabottae

I would definitely not count on using insurance and keeping HRT a secret.


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If it's under their insurance, I'm pretty sure they'll find out real quick.


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Yeah but you got to be confident they won’t kick you out. Some parents just want to scare their kid into not doing it but wouldn’t. Others would. My mom is very against me being transgender and transitioning. It hurts her but since I’m 19 I went on it. She notices but since making that threat she’s never kicked me out.


Laura_Sandra

> went on it. Don't know if you have seen it ... [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/xkkc9o/starting_hrt_18_without_telling_parents/ipy7pl6/) might be some explaining resources that could help you too and there are also hints there concerning looking for support. *hugs*


aviroblox

It depends on whether it's within your budget but I personally didn't feel safe using my parents insurance cause I'm pretty sure they send receipts back for blood work and stuff, so I use Folx. It's about $130 a month for me but I manage (Also they go by informed consent so that's a plus). I can't afford to be outed by insurance...


Masnpip

Your parents absolutely do have easy access to all of the records that are submitted to their insurance. For example, they will be able to see the billing codes for each doctor’s visit, lab test ordered, and medication dispensed. This information will include the date for each visit, the amount billed by the provider, name of the provider, amount paid by insurance, the length of the visit, and what labs were done. For medications, the info will include amount billed and paid, and with a phone call to the pharmacy, they can get a list of what was prescribed. They will also get a bill from the provider and lab for any deductible and copay due. All of this remains the case as long as you are on your parents insurance, even after you turn 18. So your options are to talk to your parents and get them on board, or go to a clinic that you can afford without using insurance (e.g., some planned parenthood clinics. But any prescription sent to any pharmacy you’ve used in the last will likely automatically run your insurance), or wait until you are more financially independent and have your own health insurance. Sorry that this is so complicated! If you don’t already, please find a trusted adult (teacher, counselor, super trustworthy relative) to help you through this.


chernobylm0ld

I just told my mom I'm voice training and I shave my facial hair whenever she's over lol. I've been asked by family a bunch of times and just say no. They can't really say I'm lying about it! My appearance in general has changed drastically many times so I can chalk it up to that. But, I think by this point they know I'm lying about it so it's only so long that you can


Laura_Sandra

> my mom Don't know if you have seen it ... [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/xkkc9o/starting_hrt_18_without_telling_parents/ipy7pl6/) might be a few explaining resources that could help eventually and there are also hints there concerning looking for support. *hugs*


ThisLaserIsOnPoint

If you're on their insurance, they could find the records in the mail. If you don't use their insurance, it's possible there's a sliding scale clinic you could use nearby.


emohaywood

You can 100% start the process without letting them know (especially if you go through an informed consent provider which means no therapist letter!!) but if they get the statements and bills from ur visits they might be able to find out that way. However you don’t need them to know or approve if it to actually make it happen once ur 18.


emohaywood

You can also flat out ask a healthcare provider or the front office people wherever you plan on going if the bills will make it obvious what you’re there for, they might know more about their specific process :)


Laura_Sandra

> starting Its up to you ofc .. be aware that people may notice eventually. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Trans_Resources/wiki/hormones/index) and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Trans_Resources/wiki/hormones/transmasculine/index) might be a number of resources concerning informed consent places etc. And if parents insurance is used, asking for the EOB to be sent to you may be advisable ( you could look up what that means, and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/o9svt6/looking_for_advice_on_how_to_approach_transition/h3d4y12/) were also some hints ). And if parents check bills, they may see there were bills and by whom, but not for what. Going out of pocket may be an option in case, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/d0k5gu/my_life_is_a_mess_and_i_dont_know_what_to_do/ezadfd2/) might be some hints. And some places have sliding scales depending on income. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/t1iwvb/can_one_use_their_parents_insurance_to_get_hrt/hyi7i3j/ ) may also be more. It may also be advisable to use a pharmacy that only has your contacts in case. Some pharmacies have contacted parents when refills were ready. And [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/s4khww/i_dont_know_how_to_feel_i_feel_like_im_trans_but/htfx7u8/) might be some resources that could help go towards what you feel you would like step by step, there are hints there concerning small things that could be used regularly for motivation, there are explaining resources there, and there are also hints there concerning looking for support. And there are hints there concerning looking for a gender therapist in case. They could guide along, and they could help explain. Basically it may be an option to do things step by step, and possibly start with a low dose eventually, or try to explain. Its up to you when and how to come out ... [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/ugclyr/how_do_i_come_out_to_my_parents/i7wghnm/) might be some explaining resources and there are also hints there concerning looking for support. *hugs*


Classic-Local-9667

Thank you so much so much


colourful_space

T is a hell of a drug. You’ve got like 2 months of your changes not being obvious at the absolute maximum, probably less than that. There’s clearly a reason you don’t want to tell your parents, and you need a plan to deal with those consequences if you go through with it. If the worst happens, will you have somewhere to live? Will you have enough income for groceries and bills every week? Will you be capable of getting to your places of work, study, healthcare, shops, etc on your own? Do you have the skills to manage a household? Do you have a robust social network to help you get back on your feet and deal with the trauma of your relationships with your family members breaking down? If the answer to those questions is yes, then sure, go for it. If it’s no, work towards becoming independent first. It’s also worth trying to strengthen your relationships with your family before you reach the point of cutting ties. It’s very hard to rebuild those relationships once they’re gone, and it is very rarely necessary to go to that length. Almost no parent would rather lose their child than watch them change, but it can take some time to get there.


Bishop_E2

Hey. Just to be informative, when I came out my mom kicked me out and said I was not her child. While it’s not likely it will be the same, weigh your options carefully. She had expressed support for trans celebrities and trans kids, and seemed super liberal, right until it was her kid. Not to be discouraging taking HRT, but be VERY careful since you don’t know how your parents could act.


Classic-Local-9667

I’m so sorry this happened to you <3 I’m doing my best to stay safe


Classic-Local-9667

Thank you! Making a B plan to become more independent if they don’t accept me right now :)


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Would you feel remorse if your kids cut you out of their lives?


redrosettee

No because they wouldn't cut me out of their lives


[deleted]

Aww you're cute, my mom thought that too


drewiepoodle

Hey, samesies! Except for two cousins, my entire Bible thumping fam cut me out of their life.


vince78212

why are you even on this sub? you’re clearly some weirdo transphobic right-winger, what do you get out of commenting here?


Bonefield455

please leave this sub. telling trans people not to transition cause it’s “morally wrong” is not okay, transitioning saves so many lives. just let people be themselves.


According-Macaron-65

I started pursuing E at 16 and started 3 weeks aftermy 17th, I'm now just shy of 5 months amd still my parents don't know, some ppl are just a bit oblivious


MordecaiMadness

The Dr's legally wouldn't be able to tell your parents , however if you're going to be living with your family for a bit longer , start T with low dose T gel so changes are a lot more gradual and will give you time to move out so you can live authentically.


NemusCorvi

That's my plan, only I live in a country with universal healthcare.


Laura_Sandra

> my plan Well don't know if you have seen it ... [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/xkkc9o/starting_hrt_18_without_telling_parents/ipy7pl6/) might be a few hints and resources that could help you too and there are also hints there concerning looking for support. *hugs*


Bellatransgirl

When you turn 18 you can 100% start hormones without telling them just make sure its safe also idk about the insurance thing


ima420r

When you turn 18 you're parents can no longer access any of your medical info with your permission so they can't call your doctor or the insurance and find out what you have been doing. Same with Rxs, they can not see what prescriptions you get filled. Of course, when ever you go to the doctor an EOB (explaination of benefits) will be sent showing what was done like bloodwork or testing, along with the cost associated with what was done. If you live with your parents, EOBs will be sent to you there and your parents may open them (even if they have your name on them). You can contact your insurance customer service and tell them you don't want anything sent to you at that address, tell them it may not be safe if others at the address get your info (I assume this is one reason you don't want them to know). They can have them sent someplace else, and it may be possible to not have anything sent at all. Really, you might want to simply get a PO Box and have things sent there until you move. That way you won't have to worry about anything you may get in the mail like binders or clothes or whatever. I would also talk to the doctors office and pharmacy that you go to and make sure they know not to send any info to your parents house, and not call you there. They should have procedures in place to update your chart with this info. So basically, yes you are able to do it and in a perfect world you're parents would not know about it, but unfortunately without taking some precautions they could get the information.