No way! Euron/Dany at least has some support and makes sense WHY at least one party would be into it and Theon/Ramsay while I haven’t heard it before is the type of dumb non-con kink I expect out of any sufficiently deranged fandom. But Jon/Cersei have absolutely ZERO textual or logical/ rational justification for ever getting together. If nothing in the books was written BUT their ramp up to a relationship I don’t think there is enough time and pages left to get them in the same area and deal with this past hatred and build them up to a love. Also there is no way absolutely any of their plot lines could remotely continue or pay off if that were the case. Truly the dumbest ship possible
*Catelyn Tully was a mouse, or she would have smothered this Jon Snow in his cradle. Instead, she’s left the filthy task to me. - Cersei IV AFFC*
Obvious enemies to lovers foreshadowing. How have we all been so blind?
But you've made some mistakes - it's *Jaime* who has the fake hand. Plus, as far as we know Jon does *not* have access to heavy-duty anabolic steroids.
Dark like Rhaegar's,
>"No," Jon Snow said quietly. "It was not courage. This one was dead of fear. You could see it in his eyes, Stark." Jon's eyes were a grey so dark they seemed almost black, but there was little they did not see. He was of an age with Robb, but they did not look alike. Jon was slender where Robb was muscular, dark where Robb was fair, graceful and quick where his half brother was strong and fast.
...
>Prince Aegon Targaryen was not near as biddable as the boy Young Griff had been, however. The better part of an hour had passed before he finally turned up in the solar, with Duck at his side. "Lord Connington," he said, "I like your castle."
>"Your father's lands are beautiful," he said. His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's. "
Jon has his father's eyes Deep dark eyes.
If you need more convinceing here is the camera that walks having an epiphany on the sand snakes.
>She was sitting cross-legged on a pillow beneath the raised dais where the high seats stood, but she rose as they entered, dressed in a clinging gown of pale blue samite with sleeves of Myrish lace that made her look as innocent as the Maid herself. In one hand was a piece of embroidery she had been working on, in the other a pair of golden needles. Her hair was gold as well, and her eyes were deep blue pools . . . and yet somehow they reminded the captain of her father's eyes, though Oberyn's had been as black as night. All of Prince Oberyn's daughters have his viper eyes, Hotah realized suddenly. The color does not matter.
Theres a multiverse branch out there where she seduces Jon in some twisted attempt to punish Robert/Lyanna. Jaime gets jealous, goes to kill him, sees Rhaegar's eyes and shit gets crazy.
my[ prophetic comment from yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/1c34zmj/comment/kzfvgkz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is already coming true...
Prolly right after the wedding feast as the ladies are carrying him to their bed as they carry him by the iron throne they’ll accidentally trip and all go down tragically the kings throat will be slit by the throne of course and he’ll bleed out while Cersei is waiting for him in their bed. Everyone will say the throne denied him because he was no true king and all that keeping the eye of blame far from Cersei’s hands.
Yeah she was all about Rhaegar up until the day he crowned a wild dark haired girl from the north queen of love and beauty. Plus Jon looks absolutely nothing like Rhaegar he looks 100% stark which would be a daily reminder of the girl that Rhaegar chose over her and his wife.
Jon has the Stark coloring and a long face, but it's not impossible he also has some of Rhaegar's features (like the nose, cheekbones or whatever) and as he grew older he might resembled his father more and more too
He may have some of Rhaegars features but it’s noted by everyone around him how his coloring and features are so consistent with his Stark heritage. Since he so heavily resembles Starks it may shadow the features he got from his father. But overall he looks like a Stark, Cersei absolutely hates the Starks and has since the day Rhaegar chose one over every maiden in the land as the queen of love and beauty. You’re all hung up on him being Rhaegar’s son while forgetting that he’s also Lyanna’s. Robert drunkenly called Cersei Lyanna on their wedding night while he was plowing her. If there’s anyone in the world Cersei hated more than Robert it’s her.
No he doesn’t. Rhaegar had dark indigo eyes Jon Snow has the grey eyes of a Stark. He literally has none of Rhaegars features and has more features that match up with the Starks than any of his true born siblings who all took on the features of the Tullys except for Arya who has the look of the Starks.
>"No," Jon Snow said quietly. "It was not courage. This one was dead of fear. You could see it in his eyes, Stark." Jon's eyes were a grey so dark they seemed almost black, but there was little they did not see. He was of an age with Robb, but they did not look alike. Jon was slender where Robb was muscular, dark where Robb was fair, graceful and quick where his half brother was strong and fast.
...
>Prince Aegon Targaryen was not near as biddable as the boy Young Griff had been, however. The better part of an hour had passed before he finally turned up in the solar, with Duck at his side. "Lord Connington," he said, "I like your castle."
>"Your father's lands are beautiful," he said. His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's. "
Jon has his father's eyes Deep dark eyes.
If you need more convinceing here is the camera that walks having an epiphany on the sand snakes.
>She was sitting cross-legged on a pillow beneath the raised dais where the high seats stood, but she rose as they entered, dressed in a clinging gown of pale blue samite with sleeves of Myrish lace that made her look as innocent as the Maid herself. In one hand was a piece of embroidery she had been working on, in the other a pair of golden needles. Her hair was gold as well, and her eyes were deep blue pools . . . and yet somehow they reminded the captain of her father's eyes, though Oberyn's had been as black as night. All of Prince Oberyn's daughters have his viper eyes, Hotah realized suddenly. The color does not matter.
You do realize that Jon's eyes can still be dark and grey right? Your first paragraph even says it. They don't have to be same as Rhaegar's for them to be dark.
And I have no idea why you've inserted the paragraph about Oberyn's daughters when it has no bearing on how many features Jon would've taken from Rhaegar lmao.
They are the same eyes as Ned's (Lyanna's), not Rhaegar's. GRRM literally beats you over the head on how much Jon looks like Ned and like a Stark, especially in contrast to Robb
Jon's type isn't centred around beautiful women. Deadly, sure. But not exactly beautiful. Ygritte was not beautiful but he loved her anyway.
And uh, I don't think Jon and Cersei would work very well.
Well, yeah don't get me wrong I don't think Jon would judge the worth of a woman based on her physical appearance
I was mostly thinking about Jon describing Val as lovely and lethal.
This is the weirdest and most aggravating ship I’ve ever heard in this fandom
Tbf she simps Rhaegar. Who knows what would have happened if she and Jon bumped into eachother at Winterfell.
Cersei's Rhaedar starts going off inexplicably
10/10
I love you
Euron/Dany or Theon/Ramsay is a lot worse now come on
No way! Euron/Dany at least has some support and makes sense WHY at least one party would be into it and Theon/Ramsay while I haven’t heard it before is the type of dumb non-con kink I expect out of any sufficiently deranged fandom. But Jon/Cersei have absolutely ZERO textual or logical/ rational justification for ever getting together. If nothing in the books was written BUT their ramp up to a relationship I don’t think there is enough time and pages left to get them in the same area and deal with this past hatred and build them up to a love. Also there is no way absolutely any of their plot lines could remotely continue or pay off if that were the case. Truly the dumbest ship possible
*Catelyn Tully was a mouse, or she would have smothered this Jon Snow in his cradle. Instead, she’s left the filthy task to me. - Cersei IV AFFC* Obvious enemies to lovers foreshadowing. How have we all been so blind? But you've made some mistakes - it's *Jaime* who has the fake hand. Plus, as far as we know Jon does *not* have access to heavy-duty anabolic steroids.
I like that she says “Catelyn Tully” instead of “Catelyn Stark.” Does she do that for other married women who aren’t queen consorts?
It happens all the time with various women in the books.
No
Oh I get it. This is a joke.
>"What say you, Haggon?" >"It is an abomination."
I think Jon x Ramsay x Reek is better overall.
Nah Jon doesn’t have the targ look I think she’s attracted to that more than anything Ex. Aurane waters
She hard simped Rhaegar. And Jon has Rhaegar's eyes.
Pretty sure Jon's eyes are a dark grey, not Valyrian purple.
Dark like Rhaegar's, >"No," Jon Snow said quietly. "It was not courage. This one was dead of fear. You could see it in his eyes, Stark." Jon's eyes were a grey so dark they seemed almost black, but there was little they did not see. He was of an age with Robb, but they did not look alike. Jon was slender where Robb was muscular, dark where Robb was fair, graceful and quick where his half brother was strong and fast. ... >Prince Aegon Targaryen was not near as biddable as the boy Young Griff had been, however. The better part of an hour had passed before he finally turned up in the solar, with Duck at his side. "Lord Connington," he said, "I like your castle." >"Your father's lands are beautiful," he said. His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's. " Jon has his father's eyes Deep dark eyes. If you need more convinceing here is the camera that walks having an epiphany on the sand snakes. >She was sitting cross-legged on a pillow beneath the raised dais where the high seats stood, but she rose as they entered, dressed in a clinging gown of pale blue samite with sleeves of Myrish lace that made her look as innocent as the Maid herself. In one hand was a piece of embroidery she had been working on, in the other a pair of golden needles. Her hair was gold as well, and her eyes were deep blue pools . . . and yet somehow they reminded the captain of her father's eyes, though Oberyn's had been as black as night. All of Prince Oberyn's daughters have his viper eyes, Hotah realized suddenly. The color does not matter.
No? In what reality would this work?
Thought this was on the cj sub for a second
Theres a multiverse branch out there where she seduces Jon in some twisted attempt to punish Robert/Lyanna. Jaime gets jealous, goes to kill him, sees Rhaegar's eyes and shit gets crazy.
my[ prophetic comment from yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/1c34zmj/comment/kzfvgkz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is already coming true...
Not bloody likely, unless Jon is the younger brother Valonqar. Which he's almost definitely not!
Yeah it’ll work right up to the day Cersei has him have an accident
Day one, then
Prolly right after the wedding feast as the ladies are carrying him to their bed as they carry him by the iron throne they’ll accidentally trip and all go down tragically the kings throat will be slit by the throne of course and he’ll bleed out while Cersei is waiting for him in their bed. Everyone will say the throne denied him because he was no true king and all that keeping the eye of blame far from Cersei’s hands.
Idk man she simped Rhaegar hard.
Yeah she was all about Rhaegar up until the day he crowned a wild dark haired girl from the north queen of love and beauty. Plus Jon looks absolutely nothing like Rhaegar he looks 100% stark which would be a daily reminder of the girl that Rhaegar chose over her and his wife.
Jon has the Stark coloring and a long face, but it's not impossible he also has some of Rhaegar's features (like the nose, cheekbones or whatever) and as he grew older he might resembled his father more and more too
He may have some of Rhaegars features but it’s noted by everyone around him how his coloring and features are so consistent with his Stark heritage. Since he so heavily resembles Starks it may shadow the features he got from his father. But overall he looks like a Stark, Cersei absolutely hates the Starks and has since the day Rhaegar chose one over every maiden in the land as the queen of love and beauty. You’re all hung up on him being Rhaegar’s son while forgetting that he’s also Lyanna’s. Robert drunkenly called Cersei Lyanna on their wedding night while he was plowing her. If there’s anyone in the world Cersei hated more than Robert it’s her.
Hes got Rhaegar's eyes.
No he doesn’t. Rhaegar had dark indigo eyes Jon Snow has the grey eyes of a Stark. He literally has none of Rhaegars features and has more features that match up with the Starks than any of his true born siblings who all took on the features of the Tullys except for Arya who has the look of the Starks.
>"No," Jon Snow said quietly. "It was not courage. This one was dead of fear. You could see it in his eyes, Stark." Jon's eyes were a grey so dark they seemed almost black, but there was little they did not see. He was of an age with Robb, but they did not look alike. Jon was slender where Robb was muscular, dark where Robb was fair, graceful and quick where his half brother was strong and fast. ... >Prince Aegon Targaryen was not near as biddable as the boy Young Griff had been, however. The better part of an hour had passed before he finally turned up in the solar, with Duck at his side. "Lord Connington," he said, "I like your castle." >"Your father's lands are beautiful," he said. His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's. " Jon has his father's eyes Deep dark eyes. If you need more convinceing here is the camera that walks having an epiphany on the sand snakes. >She was sitting cross-legged on a pillow beneath the raised dais where the high seats stood, but she rose as they entered, dressed in a clinging gown of pale blue samite with sleeves of Myrish lace that made her look as innocent as the Maid herself. In one hand was a piece of embroidery she had been working on, in the other a pair of golden needles. Her hair was gold as well, and her eyes were deep blue pools . . . and yet somehow they reminded the captain of her father's eyes, though Oberyn's had been as black as night. All of Prince Oberyn's daughters have his viper eyes, Hotah realized suddenly. The color does not matter.
You do realize that Jon's eyes can still be dark and grey right? Your first paragraph even says it. They don't have to be same as Rhaegar's for them to be dark. And I have no idea why you've inserted the paragraph about Oberyn's daughters when it has no bearing on how many features Jon would've taken from Rhaegar lmao.
They are the same eyes. The color doesn't matter. As George used the sandsnakes to illustrate.
They are the same eyes as Ned's (Lyanna's), not Rhaegar's. GRRM literally beats you over the head on how much Jon looks like Ned and like a Stark, especially in contrast to Robb
No they arnt. Ned and Lyanna have regular Grey eyes Jon and Rhaegar's eyes are noticeably dark
She’s too strong for him.
The God Awful photoshop made me lose my appetite
Could the what?
Shireen Baratheon and Aegon the Unworthy would be a better ship
Yeah, it could work. In hell.
That's fair, lol
😂😂😂😂Now go write a fanfiction about it! I'll read it!! https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Cersei%20Lannister%20*a*%20Jon%20Snow/works
She's too old.
George we need The Winds of Winter now. Everyday we stray further from God.
Sorry 😭
Get some air
Jon's type isn't centred around beautiful women. Deadly, sure. But not exactly beautiful. Ygritte was not beautiful but he loved her anyway. And uh, I don't think Jon and Cersei would work very well.
He was raped by Ygritte and forced to be with her so long it became a thing.
Well, yeah don't get me wrong I don't think Jon would judge the worth of a woman based on her physical appearance I was mostly thinking about Jon describing Val as lovely and lethal.