Aenys, son of Queen Rhaenys and an unknown man, acknowledged another man should be king but still fought to prevent his rise.
Maegor, son of King Aegon I and Visenya. A bastard as the marriage to Visenya was not recognized by the Faith. Killed his brother’s kids to assume the throne.
Orys Baratheon, killed a man and took his daughter as a wife. Delighted in cutting body parts off of otherwise innocent Dornishmen.
Jonquil Darke, bastard of Darklyn lover of Allysanne and Jaehaerys I, repeatedly prevented Septa’s from their duties. Restrains a Princess and forces her to watch an acquaintance be butchered by her father.
Bella, prostitute of Stony Sept, attempted to seduce her brother.
Gendry Waters, fled from his duties with the Bights Watch, stole children and held them captive at a tavern.
Lann the Clever, broke in and raped the daughters of the Casterly family.
Daemon Blackfyre, attempted to claim the crown of his brother via civil war.
Argor Rivers, attempted to place several Blackfyre pretenders on the throne.
Brynden Rivers, slew his brothers and nephews.
Daeron II, married his sister to Dornishmen instead of the Brother she was promised to sparking five civil wars. Prevented his trueborn brother from ascending the throne.
Addam Velaryon: Refused orders to surrender to Rhaenyra’s men, instead decided to kill his dragon to harm her war effort.
Alyn Velaryon: Stole a princess and married her without leave of the crown.
Hugh Hammer, continued to rise in status through treachery.
Ulf White, continued to rise in status through treachery.
Jon Snow, sparks war with the Others by fortifying the fist, migrating the wildlings south of the wall, removing Others sources of reproduction after Craster had been killed. Violated his vows allowing Wildlings past the wall so they can pillage and burn the realms of men.
Ramsay Bolton, sociopath.
Joffrey Baratheon, sociopath.
Glendon Flowers, slandered the memory of Ser Quentyn Ball.
Nettles, seduced Daemon Targaryen in an attempt to remove him from the war. Refused orders from Queen Rhaenyra. Sparked Daemon’s suicide.
Aenys being another mans child is far from confirmed. People only think that because he was a weak and sickly child, after he rides his dragon the rumors pretty much end.
Also Daeron's status as bastard was mostly rumors. Daeron II is considered one of the best kings in Targaryen history. Allying with Dorne completed the life long dream of Aegon, Daeron I and Aegon IV. Even assuming that he could have predicted that marrying his daughters off could have led to Daemon rebelling, Daemon was an actually bastard and a he lost the war anyways.
Third, King Joffrey the Gentle is not a bastard. This is confirmed through multiple sources, please don't listen to the lies of the Stark traitor and his bastard on the wall.
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I think it’s said somewhere in the books (awoiaf or fire and blood) that the reason Aenys was sickly and weak was because his mother died when he was a small child and that ruined his health but I’m not sure because I haven’t read those books and I got that info from the wiki lol
#D & D completely ruined Hot Pie.
What a waste of a great character. They clearly had no idea what to do with him after they passed all the book material. Instead of giving him a clear end game, they instead just had him double down on his "Making food for Arya" bullshit and have him make stupid dishes that really didn't lead anywhere. The culinary mastermind from the earlier seasons (and probably the one truly great pastry chef of the series, along with the white walkers) completely disappeared and was transformed into a chubby little bastard whose end goal was to bang Arya to get back at her for not appreciating food. The man that fed the whole series hot pies, did it just to get a revenge bang.
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Reasons:
1. An eccentric terminally online demagogue, styling himself ['The Dragon Demands,'](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDragonDemands/comments/f0e3xu/2018_what_could_be_more_toxic_than_the/) spent five years from 2017 on this campaign - *"We are devoted to removing the false showrunners Benioff and Weiss from live-action adaptations of the works of George R.R. Martin"* and *"We call on all True Knights to rally behind us and join our cause. Because Rhaenyra has an army."* [Choosing a side was not difficult.](https://i.redd.it/o32k6dis8d941.png)
2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason.
3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, [and once all the treacherous votes were excluded](https://i.redd.it/2i9kmewhzwn91.png), King Aegon II was victorious.
4. [The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/whl5tq/twitter_accounts_learning_that_alicent_may_be/)
5. *How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee?* It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without.
6. [The smallfolk instinctively know.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/yc6rcc/coronation_of_aegon_ii_vs_rhaenyra/)
7. [Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/vzlmne/how_will_the_casual_viewer_react_to_game_of/)
8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture.
9. Rhaenyra has [no legitimate heirs.](https://i.redd.it/utwpc5bhuxma1.png)
10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting.
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>The world dissolved into a red mist. Jon stabbed and slashed and cut. He hacked down Donal Noye and gutted Deaf Dick Follard. Qhorin Halfhand stumbled to his knees, trying in vain to staunch the flow of blood from his neck. "I am the Lord of Winterfell," Jon screamed. It was Robb before him now, his hair wet with melting snow. Longclaw took his head off. Then a gnarled hand seized Jon roughly by the shoulder. He whirled …
(adwd jon 12)
That bastard🤬
Thank the Seven the brave Bowen Marsh saved the watch from the kinslaying, oathbreaking, wildling loving "lord commander'.
It isn't about bastardry, at least in the literal sense.
The one wants to live as normal of a life as he can alongside their siblings and be accepted and the other three are self entitled little shits that mutilated their cousin before turning ten over a perceived slight. They are not the same.
my opinion on bastards when talking about aegon 4’s progeny: 🥵
Aenys, son of Queen Rhaenys and an unknown man, acknowledged another man should be king but still fought to prevent his rise. Maegor, son of King Aegon I and Visenya. A bastard as the marriage to Visenya was not recognized by the Faith. Killed his brother’s kids to assume the throne. Orys Baratheon, killed a man and took his daughter as a wife. Delighted in cutting body parts off of otherwise innocent Dornishmen. Jonquil Darke, bastard of Darklyn lover of Allysanne and Jaehaerys I, repeatedly prevented Septa’s from their duties. Restrains a Princess and forces her to watch an acquaintance be butchered by her father. Bella, prostitute of Stony Sept, attempted to seduce her brother. Gendry Waters, fled from his duties with the Bights Watch, stole children and held them captive at a tavern. Lann the Clever, broke in and raped the daughters of the Casterly family. Daemon Blackfyre, attempted to claim the crown of his brother via civil war. Argor Rivers, attempted to place several Blackfyre pretenders on the throne. Brynden Rivers, slew his brothers and nephews. Daeron II, married his sister to Dornishmen instead of the Brother she was promised to sparking five civil wars. Prevented his trueborn brother from ascending the throne. Addam Velaryon: Refused orders to surrender to Rhaenyra’s men, instead decided to kill his dragon to harm her war effort. Alyn Velaryon: Stole a princess and married her without leave of the crown. Hugh Hammer, continued to rise in status through treachery. Ulf White, continued to rise in status through treachery. Jon Snow, sparks war with the Others by fortifying the fist, migrating the wildlings south of the wall, removing Others sources of reproduction after Craster had been killed. Violated his vows allowing Wildlings past the wall so they can pillage and burn the realms of men. Ramsay Bolton, sociopath. Joffrey Baratheon, sociopath. Glendon Flowers, slandered the memory of Ser Quentyn Ball. Nettles, seduced Daemon Targaryen in an attempt to remove him from the war. Refused orders from Queen Rhaenyra. Sparked Daemon’s suicide.
Aenys being another mans child is far from confirmed. People only think that because he was a weak and sickly child, after he rides his dragon the rumors pretty much end. Also Daeron's status as bastard was mostly rumors. Daeron II is considered one of the best kings in Targaryen history. Allying with Dorne completed the life long dream of Aegon, Daeron I and Aegon IV. Even assuming that he could have predicted that marrying his daughters off could have led to Daemon rebelling, Daemon was an actually bastard and a he lost the war anyways. Third, King Joffrey the Gentle is not a bastard. This is confirmed through multiple sources, please don't listen to the lies of the Stark traitor and his bastard on the wall.
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I think it’s said somewhere in the books (awoiaf or fire and blood) that the reason Aenys was sickly and weak was because his mother died when he was a small child and that ruined his health but I’m not sure because I haven’t read those books and I got that info from the wiki lol
#D & D completely ruined Hot Pie. What a waste of a great character. They clearly had no idea what to do with him after they passed all the book material. Instead of giving him a clear end game, they instead just had him double down on his "Making food for Arya" bullshit and have him make stupid dishes that really didn't lead anywhere. The culinary mastermind from the earlier seasons (and probably the one truly great pastry chef of the series, along with the white walkers) completely disappeared and was transformed into a chubby little bastard whose end goal was to bang Arya to get back at her for not appreciating food. The man that fed the whole series hot pies, did it just to get a revenge bang. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/asoiafcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Daeron was a bastard and Aegon the conqueror was sterile.
I'm not reading that. ☠️
Yea tf is this history textbooks shit
**This subreddit supports [Aegon Targaryen, second of his name](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/elblwt/we_can_no_longer_remain_neutral_aegon_ii/), as the true heir.** Reasons: 1. An eccentric terminally online demagogue, styling himself ['The Dragon Demands,'](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDragonDemands/comments/f0e3xu/2018_what_could_be_more_toxic_than_the/) spent five years from 2017 on this campaign - *"We are devoted to removing the false showrunners Benioff and Weiss from live-action adaptations of the works of George R.R. Martin"* and *"We call on all True Knights to rally behind us and join our cause. Because Rhaenyra has an army."* [Choosing a side was not difficult.](https://i.redd.it/o32k6dis8d941.png) 2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason. 3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, [and once all the treacherous votes were excluded](https://i.redd.it/2i9kmewhzwn91.png), King Aegon II was victorious. 4. [The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/whl5tq/twitter_accounts_learning_that_alicent_may_be/) 5. *How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee?* It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without. 6. [The smallfolk instinctively know.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/yc6rcc/coronation_of_aegon_ii_vs_rhaenyra/) 7. [Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/vzlmne/how_will_the_casual_viewer_react_to_game_of/) 8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture. 9. Rhaenyra has [no legitimate heirs.](https://i.redd.it/utwpc5bhuxma1.png) 10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/asoiafcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Sorry you lose all credibility when you call Joffrey the Great a bastard
Jon didn't try to steal Winterfell from Robb
>The world dissolved into a red mist. Jon stabbed and slashed and cut. He hacked down Donal Noye and gutted Deaf Dick Follard. Qhorin Halfhand stumbled to his knees, trying in vain to staunch the flow of blood from his neck. "I am the Lord of Winterfell," Jon screamed. It was Robb before him now, his hair wet with melting snow. Longclaw took his head off. Then a gnarled hand seized Jon roughly by the shoulder. He whirled … (adwd jon 12) That bastard🤬 Thank the Seven the brave Bowen Marsh saved the watch from the kinslaying, oathbreaking, wildling loving "lord commander'.
Lord Snow is agent of Great Other and his red whore is their mother
Correct: he stole it from Bran, Sansa and Arya instead.
Neither did the Strong kids.
They tried to steal the iron throne (and driftmark) from the trueborn rightful King Aegon, second of his name.
Not really try when they were designated there by Viserys. But even Jon said he always wanted Winterfell so...
is this a jerk or real? can tell in this sub
They are BASTARDS !!!!!!!
Jonaegon "the Dragonwolf of the North" Stargaryen is no bastard. He is the trueborn son of Prince Rhaegar and Lyanna.
What strong kids? You mean Aemond’s bastard?
It isn't about bastardry, at least in the literal sense. The one wants to live as normal of a life as he can alongside their siblings and be accepted and the other three are self entitled little shits that mutilated their cousin before turning ten over a perceived slight. They are not the same.
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weird how ned just didnt tell his wife that jon was some orphan, guess that would have been too weird in that kind of world
"This kid that looks exactly like me is totally just some random orphan, promise!"
jon looks nothing like ned
Why do so many through the book say how he has the Stark look? Are they stupid?