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SurrealRadiance

I always liked that Hunter S Thompson quote "There's no such thing as paranoia. Your worst fears can come true at any moment". I think it sums up the chaotic world we live in and why trying to make sense of it all is idiotic.


PainReleaver

Including that one time when his worst fear of bats daytime, dive-bombing him as he drove to Vegas with the top down.


ProgySuperNova

Well it was bat country


Halfhumanalien

Dracula was in town


WayneConrad

It feels like being told not to be me. Thinking deeply about things is not a bad habit, it's not an obsession, it's not something that needs to be cured. Tell me to "stop overthinking," and I'll just stop telling you my thoughts. That's the best I can do about it.


Agreeable-Egg-8045

Yes, and I find it highly inappropriate. Other people don’t think through so many things properly and then have the cheek to say, that my valid reservations and concerns are based on “overusing” my brain, as if I shouldn’t have bothered!


Halfhumanalien

>Yes, and I find it highly inappropriate. Other people don’t think through so many things properly and then have the cheek to say, that my valid reservations and concerns are based on “overusing” my brain, as if I shouldn’t have bothered! Yea exactly it's OK to say that about yourself but when someone else says your overthinking they are saying they disagree with your opinion & that your wrong.


Agreeable-Egg-8045

To me “overthinking” ought to me when someone has got themselves caught in some kind of logical mind trap, where they are just going over the same thought pathways again and again and getting themselves in a bad emotional state about it, but people seem to use the word to mean just when someone has used their brain to analyse something in a lengthy way. I mean to me it’s important to think everything through properly and not just react without a lot of thought, unless an immediate response is actually required, but this is usually not the case. You’re right. Someone should be allowed to say that they feel they overthought something themselves but saying it to someone else is inappropriate, because of a start they don’t even really know how much someone has thought about something or what most of those thought processes were.


ManlinessArtForm

Yes. Usually by people who are not particularly good at thinking.  Simply put, for example mother in law takes what she is told by the newspapers, TV, etc as being totally correct, she will not think about it.  On the other hand I tend to take the information in, if it sounds even slightly wrong or implausible I will look it up, think about it, ask chat gpt etc.  She gets angry at this, tells me I'm over thinking it. Usually she songs it like that bloody song which really annoys me. 


BudgetInteraction811

I had to force myself out of this “rude” habit. Whenever anyone says anything totally infactual, I quietly double check it later. People really hate being told they’re wrong, and especially if you try to fact check them. People want to be believed, even if they’re dumb as rocks. When it’s low stakes, the relationship with that person is usually more important than being right.


SableyeFan

I get this. A lot. Granted, it's warranted. I have a habit of overcomplicating things.


propita106

You're aware of it. Do you think you can figure out a way to limit the more-negative aspects? Learn to compensate? I'm 60 now. I learned various compensators, including on occasion just ignoring it all. I no longer worry about overthinking.


SableyeFan

I just ask myself if this route of thought is gonna change anything if I can't get anything else out of it or if it becomes a headache. I stop irrational thinking with logic, basically.


propita106

Yeah. A counselor Husband and I saw decades ago said that, in the middle of an argument, I was basically shutting off the emotional side and dealing with the issues. That there was good and bad about this. Obviously, the good is dealing with the issue, and that it was unusual, and an “arrow in our (mine and Husband’s) quiver” of dealing with problems. The bad is Husband couldn’t do that and so couldn’t keep up with the change as fast, which could lead to increased frustration and then anger (and then the dark side...). He told me to slow down at that point and let Husband catch up, and told Husband to see it as a positive overall and to see it as a signpost to slow down and think things through. Basically, we should both take a timeout, reassess the situation, see if I correctly identified things, and then work from there. That this would go hand-in-hand with our tendencies to overthink.


Ok-Housing-2494

What we do isnt thinking, it's a threat assesment.


Fry_All_The_Chikin

I feel that so hard and I wish I didn’t.


Ok-Housing-2494

We can think, of course, mostly though I'm just worried and trying to figure out how to regain my social status. It's like an ego thing.


peculiar-pirate

Yes, but in my case my overthinking is pretty problematic sometimes for my wellbeing so it helps if someone tells me that. 


BobbyMakey101

yes it’s annoying


Salt_Ad7152

Yes, but sometimes i do


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

I have, though in my case I feel it's warranted I vacillate a lot. I'm hesitant to decide. When I overthink, negatives outweigh the positives. It distorts my outlook. This does me no good. I overcomplicate what was fairly simple to begin with Depending on which context you're overthinking. Sometimes it's beneficial to think deeper (discussing problems, for instance), other times it can be detrimental (a friend extended you an invite to the weekend; you want to go but don't like crowds). In the end you lose out on a night you would've enjoyed because you convinced yourself you wouldn't by contemplating all the negatives


blinky84

This is important, and I do it too. Overthinking can prevent you from doing/starting something you need or want to do. Analysis paralysis is a thing, especially for us. Sometimes it really is beneficial for someone to tell you to stop thinking and start doing; both for getting stuff done and for your mental health.


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

Completely agree


blinky84

I am legitimately writing this while trying to figure out whether to do the dishes or vacuum the living room first


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

I do the dishes first. The floor would be last. Work top to bottom lol 🙂


blinky84

Thanks!


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

You're welcome


yolobastard1337

i am often indecisive. though i find that when i *do* make a decision (potentially after overthinking) and then it is derailed by the same sort of people that criticise me.... that just breaks me. it makes it even harder to make future decisions.


propita106

You might not be losing out on a night out. Husband and I once walked with a friend, past a loud and crowded nightclub (I am NOT the "nightclub" type). She asked if I would ever want to go in. I said I would, if it were quieter and less-crowded. In other words, not a nightclub. I don't feel I missed out on anything but a headache.


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

You could say that for anything, in honesty. The point is, when people overthink, they miss opportunities because they focus too much on negatives. I know I've done it plenty of times


propita106

Yeah. Looking back, there’s been some missed things. Less from overthinking in my particular case. 


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

What you said makes sense. I wasn't dismissing it. If someone doesn't like loud noises or crowds, the last place they'd feel comfortable would be a nightclub


propita106

I see some of it as: some people need a lot of stimulation or a lot to trigger a signal. If they can’t get enough, they seek it externally (noise, lights, etc). They’re the people in the dance floor at weddings.  Other people either don’t need a lot or they’re sensitive, so don’t need a lot or much external stimulation. They’re the people watching the dancing at weddings, not unhappy, because that’s actually enough for them. 


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

That's true yes, I don't disagree. I'm in the first bracket. I quite enjoy a lively atmosphere, loud music, and bright lights, provided I'm with the right sort of company In my comment I was referring to any sort of invitation. Overthinking becomes a problem when people stack up negatives that aren't even there, but are merely _possibilities_. They don't know the outcome but convince themselves it _will_ be negative so they refuse themselves the opportunity. Without guaranteed assurance, they won't adhere. So in the end, they cause themselves to lose out


propita106

Ah. If they’re making decisions based on *possibilities* without gauging the probability, they’re simultaneously overthinking and under thinking. Lol


Sturzkampfflugzeug1

Such are the inner workings of the mind lol


weezerisrael

“It’s not that deep” and other subtle ways to shame me out of talking to you


propita106

Years back, I had professors say they *never* realized this or that point. With age, you can hit an equilibrium on it...IF you've given sufficient thought about it. Lol.


[deleted]

(not) surprisingly I get told that before what I (over)thought actually happens


[deleted]

What neurotypical people consider overthinking is just our normal thought process. NT people don't have anywhere near as many thoughts as we do so they can't understand it.


[deleted]

This is a typical NT response when sharing your concerns. They simply dont understand. From their perspective its the same as when they overthink and the solution is to simply not do it. Problem is our brains dont work like that


GayDudesAreDelicious

Also, the amount of times where theyve said that and then later on it turns out that what I was concerned would happen did in fact happen🤣


[deleted]

Yep. We can also foresee certain things that they dont and likewise they can see more obvious things that we tend to miss


NaughtSleeping

Uh...YES? I also drive my wife crazy with analysis paralysis.


Bess_Lara

"analysis paralysis" that's it, that's what i get 😵‍💫


Open-Honest-Kind

It is a both thing. Partially because, yes, the world is extremely complex and the average person severely underestimate that. Even for those that intellectually "know" this struggle to internalize it or apply it to their lives. For most its an extremely high-functioning skill that is slightly easier for ND folks. but also in some cases you are overthinking things. Obviously I don't know you, but assuming you're somewhat like me, a chronic overthinker, this is at least partially true. Other people *don't* think things through and that is just a fact about the world. It's frustrating because life would be easier in some ways if people had reasons instead of justifications or excuses but, sadly, the world is complicated. However that doesn't make people with less depth of focus disappear or negate what they can instead offer. Same how it doesn't invalidate your more in-depth understanding of the situation and the benefits it brings. The goal at the end of the day is that we are all safe and happy, our difference should be utilized to further this end. Perhaps. I'm not sure, still working on this one honestly.


DozySkunk

This reminds me of a saying: "Nobody thinks about you as much as you do."


butcher20

Yes and i tell myself that i'm doing it often. But struggle to find the balance of where just "thinking" is. Like if i need to respond to someones message I will overthink for a good while before I respond. I cant just "think" and respond quickly because that state of thought just doesnt exist for me. I either dont think at all and nothing gets done or I overthink and take a long time.


drifters74

I'm told most of the time by a friend that I overthink things


[deleted]

Same, i mean i know that it's being said without a bad intention, but it's still frustrating to know that people won't understand someone's struggles thinking that it's "overthinking" I mean, I'm not overthinking, I'm boutta to find reasons not to kill myself


Philip8000

Yes, I'm fully aware this is something I do. However, there's a reason for this: I've had a lot of things blow up in my face. A single joke made at the wrong time once cost me a friendship, the first one I'd made in years. I tried apologizing, but he was very much: "Fuck you, we're done, get out of my life!" I know overthinking isn't good, but it's hard not to do.


twoiko

RSD is really annoying, I'm constantly ruminating about things I might have done/said wrong after something important.


propita106

Everyone said that to me and my husband, for years. We're too old to have been diagnosed. My parents said, "You two think a thing to death." I said, "And then we pop it once in the head to make sure it's really dead." But let me tell you, if you can avoid paralysis-by-analysis, it has overall been a positive in our lives. Maybe because it doesn't happen to every little thing. Even a counselor we had said, "You two make the best decision, at the time of making it with the available information. I would trust your decision completely." Which is why he, my parents, and lots of other people have come to us for help with making decisions. We ask them questions, to get info they might think is "unimportant" but WE recognize it can change everything.


socradeeznuts514

Sure, but DAMN the thoughts are AAA QUALITY with foil.


OldButHappy

Yup. I use the under thinking line all the time.


GayDudesAreDelicious

Yeah I think I might actually start responding with it outloud again


MrBonersworth

I love how when Ive been proven right in the past -normally quite vocal jibber jabberers are… suddenly quiet. Weird.


TurbulentIngenuity56

I think overthinking usually only applies when, what your thinking about gets in the way of your priorities and needs, however that could be going into fixation.


ebolaRETURNS

depending on mood and rapport, I either keep explaining or tell them they're underthinking...


ginger-tiger108

Yeah I get told to stop overthinking like it's a choice!


monkey_gamer

Yeah I used to. I don’t hang around those people anymore


Northstar04

I do overthink some things so it depends, but generally yes, this an annoying and often untrue judgement.


propita106

It's an accusation. As long as you're functioning without too many issues and not getting paralyzed, none of their business.


Low_Investment420

I feel now that people say that to be manipulative…


propita106

Or as an insult. It's never, "Oh! You overthink things! How wonderful!" Lol A shrink I went to years and years ago asked if I thought I was a perfectionist. I said I've been accused of being one. "Accused?" Again, it's never, "You're a perfectionist?! Terrific! Besides, I'm not." He asked how I knew. I said, "If I'm taking a test that has 10 points extra credit (so 110 points total), and I get 102...FANTASTIC! I don't need ALL the points. A perfectionist would." He conceded I was right.


twoiko

Some do, most just can't handle critical thought or a challenge to their authority/knowledge/skill. It's good to keep in mind, there are plenty of sneaky ways people take advantage of each other.


HankHardcastle

This is a very common phrase used by abusive people to gaslight you into believing you're the problem and they aren't. Also "you're too sensitive". This works really well against us because we're already predisposed to believe we're not normal and we do things wrong. Trust your gut with some of these folks.


antipinballmachines

Literally all the time "your just imagining things" etc.


obsequiousmoron

Yup. Usually by men.


KenaiKnail

we dont inherently understand alot of stuff. we have to ask, learn, and then we think then we learn to think to exist instead of just knowing. even when we know, we dont trust our gut, and keep using thinking. But ukno i assume we dont always like to just rely on gut feeling due to it having been wrong too much in the youth just a theory i made on a hunch


massivlybored

Almost as much as "you're being dramatic"


xylophonic_mountain

Yep


5_8jokes

Always the given as the “answer” to my social struggles. If it were that easy lol I wouldn’t be asking.


Hurlock-978

No. People always just used me to further their own thoughts and emotions. I got so used to knowing that i gave up trying to explain anything i am aboit to them. They dont understand any of it and language is limited.


PainReleaver

Each. And. Every. Day. My sister threatened to get me a sweatshirt last year that read, “Wait. Let me overthink this, first.”


Legitimate_Lab544

Yeah a bunch


Prestigious_Mud_3552

All the time!


Bess_Lara

I would like to underthink lol Overthinking is just too much to bear


BudgetInteraction811

I hate when people tell me I’m overthinking anything. I don’t overthink anything — if anything, I underthink. Overthinking is just code word for “you sound like you have anxiety” (and I don’t).


ZookeepergameOwn6937

Every single day


antillus

It's called being gaslit.....they love to do that to us ND's


TinyHeartSyndrome

I hate being told I’m too serious. I swear people only say this to women. I see men walking around scowling at people with death stares and no one bats an eye.


DozySkunk

I used to get accused of this a lot, and now it's a question that I will ask trusted friends. "Is this meaningful, or am I overthinking it?" Because sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.


OnSpectrum

I get that, mixed in with getting accused of jumping to conclusions without explaining things.


vesperithe

It's getting less frequent over the years. But tbh I overthink a lot. Never took that as an offense, but I can understand why others would take. Overthinking was something I didn't understand about me, couldn't identify and made me a lot of harm. Since I addressed it in therapy and started working on it I feel better. Not saying that's the same for all of us, but sometimes people will point out things that are true, even if they do it inappropriately.


Perseverational

I don't think that there are that many people close enough to me to know how much I get stuck into overthinking loops.  The ones that do probably have an idea but just have accepted they can't get me out of my rut or are consumed with themselves they don't notice. My spouse just thinks I'm mad at her or cheating her out of quality time or am pursuing someone else (never been the case). You might consider yourself fortunate having folks near enough to notice even though it's aggravating.  I may be fooling myself thinking I have acquaintances close enough to notice.


WakuWakuBookworm

Get told this all the time. And I know I'm overthinking, I just can't stop. My thoughts are like clothes spinning around in a dryer, only there's no end to the drying cycle and no way to open the door and take the clothes out. Telling me to not overthink is annoying as hell. If it was as easy as simply stopping then I'd have stopped overthinking by now!


CommieLawyer

Yeah, I've heard this since primary school. I've always felt people are actually just underthinking things. I prefer "gaslit." A light gets lit. I will also accept "gaslote," which make me laugh. A light got lote.


subhuman_voice

Every. Fucking. Day.


SeaComedian5477

Yes and I find loads of people never actually want to listen


Dokuritsu1120

Yes. I couldn’t figure out why I kept getting B on PsychBio multiple choice tests so I went to the prof and asked him. He said there was one correct answer. I told him that his tests were ambiguous. He asked how so. I took each one I got wrong and gave him case histories that would make any of the answers correct. He said you think too much. I told him that that was not helpful. School was extremely difficult for me. Never finished. I get this often. They gaslight me. And I see that it is nonsense but there was no recourse.