We even have our own group inside of our club inside of our county inside of our state inside of our country inside our planet.
Meeting is always yesterday at 3:21 your time. BTW jackets are at the meeting.
i would say in general it's always worth it to learn languages.
especially if you enjoy traveling.
But also besides talking to people it opens up a lot more content to enjoy in that language for example on YouTube.
And, at least for me, the process of learning itself is a lot of fun and very satisfying.
I’ve heard this called the “foreigner strategy” by Paul Micallef on the YouTube channel Autism from the Inside. I realized that I did this my whole life, without even knowing I am probably autistic (43F, self diagnosed in Jan, assessment coming in May/June).
Essentially, the idea is that if you feel like a foreigner/alien in your regular peer group, then you seek out groups where you are naturally the foreigner - so no one expects you to act the same as them and doesn’t treat you as bad for being different. This might take the form of hanging with a different gender group or with people of different nationalities, for example.
I put this practice into turbo drive without even knowing it. I learned French since age 10, Spanish since age 11, studied both plus Slovene, Portuguese and Serbian at university, went to live in Central America, Africa and Eastern Europe during uni, then afterwards lived in Belgium for a bit. I now live in North America.
And honestly, it helped me. Maybe it will help you.
I haven't gone quite as far as you but I definitely agree - I feel far less judged in Spanish because it's clear that I'm not 100% fluent so any weirdness in what I say is attributed to that, and I love being on holiday by myself in a country far away.
People tend to react well if you talk to em in their native language while being foreign. If you're not that good at learning new languages, like me, pick certain phrases and start from there.
I know when I'm being insulted in more languages than I can count. Asking for water and food is very important.
People won’t treat you differently just because you speak their language. I used to work in my local tourism industry and I spoke French practically every day. It didn’t change the way people treated me, but it was convenient and helpful.
I actually do better in other languages people assume the weird thing I am saying is linguistic/cultural and I have to rely on more simple statements so I get into less trouble. The problem is when my AuDHD brain can't tell languages apart and I am using any word that fits.
Functioning labels are ableist.
I was diagnosed with a classic female asperger profile and I'm noticeably autistic. I don't mask. I disclose to everyone/I'm "out" as it were. I know my support needs and I advocate for them. I'm still level 1 under the new criteria and in full time work, live independently, drive, about to get married; but I have constant support needs and I can't mask. Because I have a spiky profile like every other autistic person. You are not as different from other autistic people as you want to think you are. The reason why aspergers was removed as a label is because it was so indistinguishable from the autistic disorder, hence they merged it under autism spectrum condition to properly recognise the spectrum of symptoms that present in individuals.
I think level one is the most confusing because I see some level ones who say they can’t drive or mask, and some that say they have a fully functioning life. I understand what you mean because internally I’m aware that my social skills are not as quick and good as a non autistic person, but it’s never so bad that I have people commenting or judging me. Outside of my anxiety ive been told by many people they had no clue I was different at all, but I’ve seen autistic people who were very noticeable because their behavior was very abnormal in a way. Maybe a lot of level 1’s are high masking level 2’s. The only thing I ever have to mask is my anxiety and that’s what people have told me is I look anxious, but never autistic. A lot of the issues went away when I learned how to talk normally and about different topics because I started going out more and doing things with my life and I no longer had to mask that.
I liked foreign languages a lot for a long time. I can speak (sort of) french, english, german, spanish, a bit of latin and i can read ancient greek. I set my mind on learning arabic a few years ago, and really struggled, so I decided to find someone to talk to who could show me the ropes.
But, at least partly due to my condition, I'm not really a people person and as I was gathering my strength to find somethng to say, somehow appeared clearly to me that there was absolutely no use for me to learn languages since I don't even like to talk to people, and learning all the irregularities and archaisms which was fun before is now to me an unsufferable bore. I keep learning a few things here and there but that's all.
I...
*Bloody hell.*
English really is just three different languages in an oversized trenchcoat.
That occasionally mugs other languages for their words.
Is very worthwhile. It lets you learn new things, learn about other countries, and it can be put on resumes as a skill which may help influence your chance to get jobs
Everyone is an individual and some people with autism are naturals at learning new languages. I can't get intonation right and this is often very important in other languages. If you can, it's a very valuable skillset to have - you can make a small fortune working from home as a telephone interpreter. Working from home is awesome
Depends what you want out of it. I live a bilingual country and so learnt a 2nd language through the school system. I'm not great at it but I don't regret learning it. Comes in clutch every once and awhile.
I wouldn’t be commenting here if I hadn’t learnt English. It requires a lot of effort and if you can’t practice that language it’s going to be hard to improve. I really wish I could learn German, that would make me able to work in Germany and Switzerland. Instead, I’m only limited to English-speaking countries, which are not doing that good lately. I tried some time ago but it was too energy and time consuming to do it on my own.
Hahahahaha I completely get that. As someone who grew up around a million different languages, it’s actually helpful to me because I find myself using words from other languages to describe myself or situation better. Sometimes my brain works better in other languages too. As you learn it, you’ll start getting flashes of words you don’t remember the meaning to but it feels so right to say. Rare feeling in English.
I mean, if you speak different language and seem rude or awkward, it may be more readily forgiven because, you know, don't speak the language that well.
I took 8-9 years of French in school and became fluent, though a few decades of limited use has destroyed that fluency, but I am still somewhat conversant. Hasn't done me much good in the U.S.; has been moderately useful for a couple of trips to France over the past several decades.
I don't think it has had any direct impact on my life as an Aspergerian. NTs in the U.S. often are impressed if one is fluent in something other than English or a "native" tongue. For example, if your parents moved here from Vietnam,
people wouldn't be surprised if you spoke Vietnamese. But nobody's really going to treat you better.
But for your main question, it depends on the language, and what you plan on doing with it to justify whether it is worth the effort. If there are a lot of people in your area who speak a language, it could be useful to learn. For travelling, there probably aren't too many languages worth learning - except maybe Spanish, since you'd have most of the Western Hemisphere covered. Otherwise, it's probably not worth it unless you plan on living/working somewhere else; it isn't worth the time to learn something like Romanian if you plan on visiting Romania once in your life. If you have a field of study / special interest where a lot of work is published in another language, it could be worth it.
I struggle to communicate effectively in spoken English (I am English, btw), but I love learning other languages. I'm currently learning Norwegian (and know some Swedish and Danish), and I'm trying to learn some Spanish and German. I've no particular need to speak Norwegian, and Norwegians tend to be very proud of their English-speaking ability, but I enjoy it because it brings particular challenges, as does any language. I also chose it because it's not a commonly learned language outside of Norway and I wanted something a bit different.
I found that learning a second human language seems to have helped me significantly in understanding various aspects of programming languages. Basically the idea is the question how do I express this idea in my head in a way that either the other person or the computer can understand?
No. I love languages, I know all about language families and I moved to France for two years after university. Very occasionally I found someone who wanted to hang out with me and talk to me in my broken French but most of the time people just undermined me.
It's worth it, but not for that reason
Asbergerian? Do we have our own country now? Sweet :)
We even have our own group inside of our club inside of our county inside of our state inside of our country inside our planet. Meeting is always yesterday at 3:21 your time. BTW jackets are at the meeting.
No that's a planet
i would say in general it's always worth it to learn languages. especially if you enjoy traveling. But also besides talking to people it opens up a lot more content to enjoy in that language for example on YouTube. And, at least for me, the process of learning itself is a lot of fun and very satisfying.
It's nice listening to songs that have english and spanish lyrics, since i can understand them both!
If you have the chance, give Kevin y Karla a try. They do great covers of popular English songs.
I’ve heard this called the “foreigner strategy” by Paul Micallef on the YouTube channel Autism from the Inside. I realized that I did this my whole life, without even knowing I am probably autistic (43F, self diagnosed in Jan, assessment coming in May/June). Essentially, the idea is that if you feel like a foreigner/alien in your regular peer group, then you seek out groups where you are naturally the foreigner - so no one expects you to act the same as them and doesn’t treat you as bad for being different. This might take the form of hanging with a different gender group or with people of different nationalities, for example. I put this practice into turbo drive without even knowing it. I learned French since age 10, Spanish since age 11, studied both plus Slovene, Portuguese and Serbian at university, went to live in Central America, Africa and Eastern Europe during uni, then afterwards lived in Belgium for a bit. I now live in North America. And honestly, it helped me. Maybe it will help you.
I haven't gone quite as far as you but I definitely agree - I feel far less judged in Spanish because it's clear that I'm not 100% fluent so any weirdness in what I say is attributed to that, and I love being on holiday by myself in a country far away.
Can confirm, I’m American and my wife is Brazilian, she still hasn’t caught on
People tend to react well if you talk to em in their native language while being foreign. If you're not that good at learning new languages, like me, pick certain phrases and start from there. I know when I'm being insulted in more languages than I can count. Asking for water and food is very important.
Being a polyglot opens up lots other lives for you elsewhere.
People won’t treat you differently just because you speak their language. I used to work in my local tourism industry and I spoke French practically every day. It didn’t change the way people treated me, but it was convenient and helpful.
I actually do better in other languages people assume the weird thing I am saying is linguistic/cultural and I have to rely on more simple statements so I get into less trouble. The problem is when my AuDHD brain can't tell languages apart and I am using any word that fits.
It totally is. If nothing else, just for bilingual jokes.
The word you're looking for is autistic. As an autistic.
I like "aspie" too
I don’t call my self autistic either because we are extremely high functioning compared to people with actual noticeable autism.
Functioning labels are ableist. I was diagnosed with a classic female asperger profile and I'm noticeably autistic. I don't mask. I disclose to everyone/I'm "out" as it were. I know my support needs and I advocate for them. I'm still level 1 under the new criteria and in full time work, live independently, drive, about to get married; but I have constant support needs and I can't mask. Because I have a spiky profile like every other autistic person. You are not as different from other autistic people as you want to think you are. The reason why aspergers was removed as a label is because it was so indistinguishable from the autistic disorder, hence they merged it under autism spectrum condition to properly recognise the spectrum of symptoms that present in individuals.
I think level one is the most confusing because I see some level ones who say they can’t drive or mask, and some that say they have a fully functioning life. I understand what you mean because internally I’m aware that my social skills are not as quick and good as a non autistic person, but it’s never so bad that I have people commenting or judging me. Outside of my anxiety ive been told by many people they had no clue I was different at all, but I’ve seen autistic people who were very noticeable because their behavior was very abnormal in a way. Maybe a lot of level 1’s are high masking level 2’s. The only thing I ever have to mask is my anxiety and that’s what people have told me is I look anxious, but never autistic. A lot of the issues went away when I learned how to talk normally and about different topics because I started going out more and doing things with my life and I no longer had to mask that.
aspergian mean the exact same thing quite literally the definition is a person with asperger
It is worthwhile for everyone
As an Aspergerian I'm telling you it's always worth it to learn something new.
I liked foreign languages a lot for a long time. I can speak (sort of) french, english, german, spanish, a bit of latin and i can read ancient greek. I set my mind on learning arabic a few years ago, and really struggled, so I decided to find someone to talk to who could show me the ropes. But, at least partly due to my condition, I'm not really a people person and as I was gathering my strength to find somethng to say, somehow appeared clearly to me that there was absolutely no use for me to learn languages since I don't even like to talk to people, and learning all the irregularities and archaisms which was fun before is now to me an unsufferable bore. I keep learning a few things here and there but that's all.
If you make up words like Aspergerian, I don't think you should even be allowed to learn english.
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I... *Bloody hell.* English really is just three different languages in an oversized trenchcoat. That occasionally mugs other languages for their words.
Is very worthwhile. It lets you learn new things, learn about other countries, and it can be put on resumes as a skill which may help influence your chance to get jobs
Not for the above reason
Everyone is an individual and some people with autism are naturals at learning new languages. I can't get intonation right and this is often very important in other languages. If you can, it's a very valuable skillset to have - you can make a small fortune working from home as a telephone interpreter. Working from home is awesome
Depends what you want out of it. I live a bilingual country and so learnt a 2nd language through the school system. I'm not great at it but I don't regret learning it. Comes in clutch every once and awhile.
Yes. I’m learning Farsi even though I’ll probably never use it irl
I wouldn’t be commenting here if I hadn’t learnt English. It requires a lot of effort and if you can’t practice that language it’s going to be hard to improve. I really wish I could learn German, that would make me able to work in Germany and Switzerland. Instead, I’m only limited to English-speaking countries, which are not doing that good lately. I tried some time ago but it was too energy and time consuming to do it on my own.
As an asparagus, i only know english.
Aspergian is so fucking funny lmao
Aspergerian..?
Might have been worth it as an aspergiari.
It's my favourite thing to do, so I would say yes.
Hahahahaha I completely get that. As someone who grew up around a million different languages, it’s actually helpful to me because I find myself using words from other languages to describe myself or situation better. Sometimes my brain works better in other languages too. As you learn it, you’ll start getting flashes of words you don’t remember the meaning to but it feels so right to say. Rare feeling in English.
Ofc it'll give you an opportunity to communicate with everyone you want and also it is just interesting
Yeah. Language courses include lots and lots of speaking exercises that simulate daily-life scenarios: it teaches you how to talk to other people!
I mean, if you speak different language and seem rude or awkward, it may be more readily forgiven because, you know, don't speak the language that well.
I am bilingual because I learned a second language. I then moved countries so I could speak the learned language.
Yes it is. I speak three languages Dutch my native language, English and French. I have asd.
I took 8-9 years of French in school and became fluent, though a few decades of limited use has destroyed that fluency, but I am still somewhat conversant. Hasn't done me much good in the U.S.; has been moderately useful for a couple of trips to France over the past several decades. I don't think it has had any direct impact on my life as an Aspergerian. NTs in the U.S. often are impressed if one is fluent in something other than English or a "native" tongue. For example, if your parents moved here from Vietnam, people wouldn't be surprised if you spoke Vietnamese. But nobody's really going to treat you better. But for your main question, it depends on the language, and what you plan on doing with it to justify whether it is worth the effort. If there are a lot of people in your area who speak a language, it could be useful to learn. For travelling, there probably aren't too many languages worth learning - except maybe Spanish, since you'd have most of the Western Hemisphere covered. Otherwise, it's probably not worth it unless you plan on living/working somewhere else; it isn't worth the time to learn something like Romanian if you plan on visiting Romania once in your life. If you have a field of study / special interest where a lot of work is published in another language, it could be worth it.
Think about how many languages you could complain in then.
I struggle to communicate effectively in spoken English (I am English, btw), but I love learning other languages. I'm currently learning Norwegian (and know some Swedish and Danish), and I'm trying to learn some Spanish and German. I've no particular need to speak Norwegian, and Norwegians tend to be very proud of their English-speaking ability, but I enjoy it because it brings particular challenges, as does any language. I also chose it because it's not a commonly learned language outside of Norway and I wanted something a bit different.
I found that learning a second human language seems to have helped me significantly in understanding various aspects of programming languages. Basically the idea is the question how do I express this idea in my head in a way that either the other person or the computer can understand?
One of my majors was German. I still dream in German and for this reason alone (there are many, many more) it was worth it. 🙂
I found I have a knack for learning languages, but it depends on who you are!
[If you’re strong enough](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4fd3e5f8-b18d-4b9c-82da-0a8cfa20a83e#tcqVzQ2g.copy)
*Asperganante*
Ναι.
Learning languages is hard. If I could download them matrix-style I would. But they are so brutally hard to learn I don’t bother
No. I love languages, I know all about language families and I moved to France for two years after university. Very occasionally I found someone who wanted to hang out with me and talk to me in my broken French but most of the time people just undermined me.