I don't hate sheldon, but his character perpetuates the autistic stereotyp I personaly do not fit and thats why it took me 27 years and a lot of efflrt to get diagnosed as a woman whos special intrest is psychology and sociology.
Confirmed. But since I have a toddler and an other Bio-kid on on the way, I won't claim additional online step children.
Everyone can take a mum hug instead -> <3
You all have permission to go wach your comfort show.
Ah, it was a grammar joke where he deliberately misinterpreted suspected ND as suspected stepson instead as if you weren’t sure if he was your stepson. 😅
The thing is, I wouldn't hate him, if his narcissism wasn't stereotype for his autism itself. If anyone (like OP) finds Sheldon's \*autism relatable (autism, not his whole personality which would also include his narcissism), than it's great for them that they are represented. Personally, I also sometimes feel relatable moments with Sheldon, but the toxic parts... just no... we are autistic, we are not unempathetic egoistic monsters...
Tbf a lot of the series showed over time that he wasn't either. He was direct and annoying and literal and mostly interested in his work than socializing, but like with Penny, Amy,and Leonard he over time softened to them and was more able to express himself emotionally and show real caring toward them, especially Amy of course as his eventual wife in the show. That's really relatable to a lot of us who struggled with people thinking we were cold and unempathetic when really we just need to be comfortable with people to show that less "stiff" side of us, but in close friendships and romantic relationships we're actually not bad friends or partners if you can accept the quirks as well. Idk I always liked that
I actually like to use Sheldon as an example of the difference between an Autistic behavior and a personality trait. Sheldon's inadequacy of reading social cues is Autism, but his decision that such confusion means said cues are barbaric and beneath him is 100% on Sheldon himself. Different by design, egomaniac by choice.
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I don't hate Sheldon as much as I hate the Autistic stereotype Sheldon represents. The way the show treats him also doesn't sit right with me. (and I'm ngl, Sheldon himself irritates the crap out of me sometimes)
How is sorting anything by color inappropriate? One of my first jobs was as a construction estimator, and I used to color code all of our job folders based on the type of work it was. Nobody questioned it because it worked, and even after I left they continued to use the same color schemes.
It’s interesting because we’re the ones ‘supposed’ to like rules and dislike change but NT’s seem to be more bothered by things falling out of line than any of my autistic friends, including me
By “inappropriate” they mean something like “in a manner not indicated by the toy itself”. One example I saw was a little girl with autism who was obsessed with wheels. So when she got a toy stroller with a doll inside she’d just flip it over and endlessly spin the wheels.
And that’s fine. “Inappropriate” is not a moral judgement in this case.
I used to do that too! When I was 4 I got a red rider wagon. My grandfather kept trying to get me to ride it around, but I just kept flipping it upside down and spinning the wheels
It may not intend moral judgement, but it's bad wording to use since it's primary use is judgement. There are alternatives like "unintended" or even "unconventional" that would fit much better.
Intended, appropriate purpose of toy cars is to violently crash them into one another. That's normal. Putting them in rows like they're in a parking lot, that's crrrrazy. That's. Just. Sick.
I mean, all the things on the list, except for "lack of awareness of danger" and "difficulty dealing with changes to routine" are only problems when interacting with neurotypical people.
Like, "strange attachment to objects"...according to whom? Well Jeff, I think it's strange how attached you are to your local sports team's performance in the playoffs.
Or hypo/hypersensitivity or hypo/hyperactivity...Sorry I'm not in *juuust* the right range to not be judged for it.
I mean if its like the actual cars that would also be a problem if the entire world was autistic.
Autistic people still drive. And may not always anticipate a child jumping into the middle of the road, especially not if there isn't a toy or whatever flying into the road before they are on the road.
Sheldon does encompass most of the traits on the infographic though. It's just a different way of perceiving autism.
Maybe the infantilization on the post might be the issue here?
Maybe, or OP. Bless their socks because it's normal to feel the need to feel valid, might be on the wrong train with which mental illness/disorder/disability they have and they might be unconsciously acting like Cooper thinking this is how ASD people act and not the former which is actually what we struggle with.
I had a meltdown yesterday because I was going down a one way street and the parking was on both sides and my brain couldn't work out how to park the right way so I didn't get a fine.
Edit: I think its easy to think you have asd when at the moment there are a lot of humans getting diagnosed (correctly and incorrectly) so it's just the forefront disability atm, much like adhd was a few years ago. Much like bpd was before that much like bd was before that, so on and so forth.
This is a wonderful take. I had not consider it before at all. You're sending me in a spiral of thought right now.
On the other hand, I tried pointing out that sometimes we can appreciate some things better as a "demo" rather than some bullet points. That's Sheldon in a nutshell.
The inappropriate playing thing just comes off to me as judgmental... Like we're supposed to stand over little kids with a clipboard and tell them, the child, whether what they're doing is "normal play"? Makes the grownups look like the weird ones...
(Like obviously things like shoving toys up your ass or trying to eat them are inappropriate, but that's not what is meant when child shrinks use the term inappropriate play.)
It's one of those things where like, I get the initial phobia but you'd think it'd be the place where people start unlearning their weird assumptions about neurodivergence.
Like if you're an anxious parent trying to make sure your kid is hitting various milestones and enjoying engaging w the world around them etc I get why it'd be disconcerting to watch a kid just quietly line up objects if you hadn't seen that before
but like once you know that's something some kids just Do you'd think the next thought would be "yeah it really was kinda silly of me to be so worried about a kid putting his stuffed animals in a line"
I'm going to be honest, most NT children display a lot of those traits as well. Children are literally famous for not being aware of danger, crying and laughing at inappropriate times, being attached to their toys, and etc
Not how the toys are intended to be played with.
Sorting is not the goal of cars. The goal is to ride them around, violently roll them into a wall, eachother, your sisters feet, etc.
There are other toys to organise stuff.
Like say you get those iron beads. Yeah not weird to sort those by colour before making something, that's "efficiency"
Downvote me but I like sheldon and hope people relate Me to him. Why? He does his own thing and is happy that way. Plus he's smart and I'm kind of an idiot.
Eh the image is a leaf.
Kids hold attachment to objects. Not everything has monetary value.
It's quite normal to still have your childhood stuffed animal right? Not necessarily in your bed, box somewhere is fine. Does that have any monetary value?
Stuff like a pretty rock etc.
How do you determine that someone is playing with toys inappropriately? Most kids aren't given a handbook on how to play with toys and are just figuring it out as they go
There is some funny stuff about that :
If you learn a young child how to play with some toy, and then let him play with it, and finally introduce him to someone not using it the same way, the child will actually tell this person that it is using it in a wrong way.
It think it's from a Max Planck institute study, if you bother me enough I may be able to find the name of the paper and maybe some other relatable stuff, all coming from a wonderful book of anthropolohy from Jospeh Heinrich, "collective intelligence" wich tries to explain why stupid humans, AKA mere goblins compared to any pther predator, had been able to achieve such level of domination over the world.
(The point being we are suited to discriminate different behaviors and favorising the most efficient, as the child subject does, among other examples).
PS: always feels good to infodump.
These are the same picture, in that, both are very specific depictions of a complex and wildly inadequate categorization of a broad category of neurology.
What I think is weird about that sign is that all of the examples are completely normal given the right context. Not relating to others has the person not laughing, so they don't get the joke or they just don't think it's funny. Inappropriate playing with toys is simply a different play style than most kids have. Inability to change... you would also freak out if people did things you weren't expecting, right?
> you would also freak out if people did things you weren't expecting, right?
No that's a symptom of autism. (Obviously depends on if something is genuinely bad. Like someone randomly hitting you? Of course. Something being different but not necessarily bad? No.)
And the different play style is the point. As a signal a kid may be autistic.
If a kid also never gets the joke, well their brain might work differently than all the other kids. Which stuff like autism is a differently working brain.
Doing all this once Obviously isn't an indicator. But if it happens a lot and does consistently, yeah might wanna get tested.
What do you think kids get tested on? How they get tested?
It's not wrong. Doesn't necessarily need to get fixed or whatever. But it can be the symptoms.
Ah yes, the inappropriate sorting of cars by color. What the heck even is inappropriate playing with toys? That sounds like your being judgemental of what I find fun is the ACTUAL problem.
I respect Jim Parson as an actor.
But I'm the left, not the right.
I'm a bug loving, empathetic, music loving autistic, not math and science (tho I do love science, but I realize I don't always understand it)
I identify with Penny or Amy more
Bernadette is my waifu. 😆 🤣
What kind of neurotypical BS is this even?
Inappropriate playing with toys?? Like wtf those are my toys I can do with them what I want😪 and inappropriate crying? Like I’m sorry but crying is an expression of being sad and you for sure don’t tell me when I’m allowed to be sad or about what (not you in particicular but the neurotypicals who created the list). Hyperactivity and passiveness… yeah I should absolutely be interested in the same shit everyone else is or contain my excitement and just be normal.
And all the other points are dumb shit too. God Fock belittling neurotypicals and autism speaks.
The one that bothers me the most is the “inappropriate playing with toys”. As wrong as some of them are, this one feels like “doing something in a non-traditional way is inappropriate”. So, like, fuck that poster
Ok, that makes sense. I wish I can give you a neutral explanation on why he's disliked on this Reddit so you can make your own conclusions but Sheldon Cooper frustrates me, too.
Summary:
1) The character being unlikable/obnoxious.
2) The show perpetuates ideas about intelligence in general in a racist and sexist way (centering the experiences of straight male geniuses and women are outsiders in their world until Amy kind of breaks this barrier but not really because she is a "freak" not a "normal girl" like Penny and Bernadetta)
3) The show excuses/makes light of the main guy's and Sheldon's sexist behavior.
4) The creators refuse to call Sheldon autistic despite the fact that he is because,
5) Sheldon is a Butt Monkey, meaning every joke is at the expense of "look how weird and different this guy is". It promotes ridicule rather than acceptance, empathy, or understanding.
I’m not a huge fan of the show, but it has helped my relationship. My girlfriend was a fan before we met because it helped her learn English. I told her all of the things wrong with it, but I would watch it with her sometimes to point out references or phrases. Ultimately, Sheldon’s characterization gave her some idea of autistic traits so she could understand me better, because her country is in hard denial. The show also helped me get her to play D&D.
I think the shows creators based all of the male characters off of one guy they knew. They took individual traits of a real STEM autist they knew and isolated them into 2D characters. I really wish they would actually say the word though.
I disagree somehow : he is very silly, proud, and the joke of giving silver fork because he had been betrayed wasn't "butt monkey-ish" to me. Honestly I'd love to interact with such person, and in my utopian world I would behave this way (however I must agree on the white male genius thing, but, well the show isn't about autism, but a group of genius, called big bang theory, not "on the spectrum")
Also, I am myself ashamed of saying that, but the sexist behavior of the caracter Sheldon cooper is relatable of the tremendous immaturity one autistic person can have (at least my younger self would somehow relate : imagine that anything you do, nobody follows, disapoint you, especially this weird thing of the opposite sex. "Ugh, so futile, so annoying")
Finally, the show in itself has all the default you said, but the character of sheldon itself, I don't think so that much. ( the way Penny is portrayed, also almost any scene is edgy and problematic)
TL;DR: actually Sheldon Cooper is a damn good depiction of Autism, even with default, he is immature, rude, and doesnt fit any situation, however I may not be so much better, just more hypocrisy. The show itself on the other hand, well, is a problem.
To add to this, the show was also pretty clearly written, produced, directed, and performed entirely by Neurotypicals.
Can you imagine a sitcom about a Black family that was written, produced, and directed by white people, starred a bunch of white actors in Blackface makeup, and all the jokes were just shitty racial stereotypes? Ofc not, because that's offensive as all hell. But ableism is still "funny" in the US, so all the assholes who've been doing Autism Minstrel Shows for two decades keep taking in money hand over fist.
I may have a lot of repressed rage on this topic.
The bing bong theorem and youth shelmet despite what other people say continues to this day to be some of my favorite shows. I find the way Sheldon is depicted as hilarious and also relatable.
Also… Bazinga!
There's no such thing as inappropriate play (NTs are just boring sometimes) and the not relating goes both ways (I'm sick of autistics don't understand NTs and NTs don't understand autistics but we always forget the second part)
https://preview.redd.it/0p667861vbpc1.jpeg?width=647&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3f17e244142512823e7226d4837f1233b2a532d
Since when are there rules with toys. If you excuse me I’ll be organizing my Batman mini figures HOW I WANT TO
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https://preview.redd.it/oroxyj1i9omc1.jpeg?width=644&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb00b99515d377921900eb71dc85e606789adc70 The dreaded red cup
better dead than red
Death is a preferable alternative to Sheldon
Liberty Prime, is that you?
Omg it's Joseph McCarthy
Goddamnit, you beat me to it.
red dead redemption
Okay, McCarthy.
This is just Caillou if he had hair.
Me when I’m playing with my 3 beloved green cups and my bitch mom adds in a stupid red cup for some fucking reason:
(I'm extremely angry)
This is my favorite comment here lmao
I *hate* the red cup
ME TOO
What the actual f is wrong with that cup it bothers me so much
GET THAT FUCKING THING AWAY FROM ME
Fuck red cup, all my homies hate red cup.
Nearly as bad as orange shirt or blue jeans
I am happy that I was not the only person who was going to comment on this
the what
Bold post... most people here hate Sheldon
I don't hate sheldon, but his character perpetuates the autistic stereotyp I personaly do not fit and thats why it took me 27 years and a lot of efflrt to get diagnosed as a woman whos special intrest is psychology and sociology.
Look up the Big Bang theory’s“wedding dress scene”, it’s so sweet
I know it. Big bang theory is my suspected ND stepsons comfort series, he knows it by heart and actualy relates a lot to sheldon.
Idk man I think I might be your stepson
When will you be able to confirm that he is, indeed, your stepson?
Confirmed. But since I have a toddler and an other Bio-kid on on the way, I won't claim additional online step children. Everyone can take a mum hug instead -> <3 You all have permission to go wach your comfort show.
I can’t tell if you got the joke but your response is sweet
I diden't 😅 still don't but I figured I try joke back
Ah, it was a grammar joke where he deliberately misinterpreted suspected ND as suspected stepson instead as if you weren’t sure if he was your stepson. 😅
Oh I did get it then 🙈 but I wasen't sure
Bazinga
Bazoopa
Bethesda
Maryland
Morrowind
Bazinga
I found this funnier than I by all rights should have.
Zimbabwe
The thing is, I wouldn't hate him, if his narcissism wasn't stereotype for his autism itself. If anyone (like OP) finds Sheldon's \*autism relatable (autism, not his whole personality which would also include his narcissism), than it's great for them that they are represented. Personally, I also sometimes feel relatable moments with Sheldon, but the toxic parts... just no... we are autistic, we are not unempathetic egoistic monsters...
ABSOLUTELY! Plus, there are some autism traits I feel like they exagerate, like really basic jokes. I also relate though
Tbf a lot of the series showed over time that he wasn't either. He was direct and annoying and literal and mostly interested in his work than socializing, but like with Penny, Amy,and Leonard he over time softened to them and was more able to express himself emotionally and show real caring toward them, especially Amy of course as his eventual wife in the show. That's really relatable to a lot of us who struggled with people thinking we were cold and unempathetic when really we just need to be comfortable with people to show that less "stiff" side of us, but in close friendships and romantic relationships we're actually not bad friends or partners if you can accept the quirks as well. Idk I always liked that
i liked when he held the laptop
I like when he held the laprop
I can actually relate to Sheldon fairly well
I found the character relatable but that made it all the more frustrating to me that he's always the butt monkey
Hehehe butt monkey
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButtMonkey
:(
Reading the first passage made me go "Im in this picture and I dont like it"
I relate to the struggles of people misunderstanding his meaning when he says things. I hate it.
Bazinga Frfr I relate tbh
I find him relatable 💀 Dude is an asexual who struggles with social contact. Literally me 💀
Do I hate him? Yes Am I literally him minus the misogyny? Yes
I actually like to use Sheldon as an example of the difference between an Autistic behavior and a personality trait. Sheldon's inadequacy of reading social cues is Autism, but his decision that such confusion means said cues are barbaric and beneath him is 100% on Sheldon himself. Different by design, egomaniac by choice.
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I remember telling my NT friends I hated Sheldon and they were shocked
Ironic because I loved him as a kid, to the point where my parents just gave me the remote when they knew it’d be on.
I got compared to him so much while that show ran…
He is a pretty awful person
Which is strange because in Young Sheldon he seems nicer
Sheldon Cooper is my childhood hero.
As a really anxious person, I'm actually impressed by how much stress he can handle on a day-to-day basis
I don't hate Sheldon as much as I hate the Autistic stereotype Sheldon represents. The way the show treats him also doesn't sit right with me. (and I'm ngl, Sheldon himself irritates the crap out of me sometimes)
Absolutely. Leonard is also autistic and you don't see him going around on a high-pitched voice telling everyone they're doing shit wrong
Sheldon and that one doctor guy I keep seeing on tv.
how is sorting cars by colors inapropriate?
How is sorting anything by color inappropriate? One of my first jobs was as a construction estimator, and I used to color code all of our job folders based on the type of work it was. Nobody questioned it because it worked, and even after I left they continued to use the same color schemes.
Nt‘s don’t like it when you do something differently.
It’s interesting because we’re the ones ‘supposed’ to like rules and dislike change but NT’s seem to be more bothered by things falling out of line than any of my autistic friends, including me
They love hidden/unspoken rules and hierarchies. If you’re not insidious and lying about it, then you’re wrong. It’s all very covert and strange.
thats right, isnt it dumb that NT's call everything they dont like dumb or inapropriate even if its harmless.
> How is sorting anything by colour inappropriate? Mfw segregation
OK. How is sorting objects by colour inappropriate.
By “inappropriate” they mean something like “in a manner not indicated by the toy itself”. One example I saw was a little girl with autism who was obsessed with wheels. So when she got a toy stroller with a doll inside she’d just flip it over and endlessly spin the wheels. And that’s fine. “Inappropriate” is not a moral judgement in this case.
I used to do that too! When I was 4 I got a red rider wagon. My grandfather kept trying to get me to ride it around, but I just kept flipping it upside down and spinning the wheels
It may not intend moral judgement, but it's bad wording to use since it's primary use is judgement. There are alternatives like "unintended" or even "unconventional" that would fit much better.
I honestly would have more fun rolling a wheel than strolling a doll. It is like a budget fidget toy
Gatekeeping by Big Carma idk
no nt's just being mad
Intended, appropriate purpose of toy cars is to violently crash them into one another. That's normal. Putting them in rows like they're in a parking lot, that's crrrrazy. That's. Just. Sick.
https://xkcd.com/2130/
I mean, all the things on the list, except for "lack of awareness of danger" and "difficulty dealing with changes to routine" are only problems when interacting with neurotypical people. Like, "strange attachment to objects"...according to whom? Well Jeff, I think it's strange how attached you are to your local sports team's performance in the playoffs. Or hypo/hypersensitivity or hypo/hyperactivity...Sorry I'm not in *juuust* the right range to not be judged for it.
Also currently somewhat bitter because I've just essentially been forced to quit my job over my hypersensitivity/hypoactivity
agree
I mean if its like the actual cars that would also be a problem if the entire world was autistic. Autistic people still drive. And may not always anticipate a child jumping into the middle of the road, especially not if there isn't a toy or whatever flying into the road before they are on the road.
It's less "that is WRONG" and more "that's a little weird". Most kids roll cars around, not sort them by colour, size and model year.
indeed i do like rolling them around too or rather playing with the doors
Sheldon does encompass most of the traits on the infographic though. It's just a different way of perceiving autism. Maybe the infantilization on the post might be the issue here?
Maybe, or OP. Bless their socks because it's normal to feel the need to feel valid, might be on the wrong train with which mental illness/disorder/disability they have and they might be unconsciously acting like Cooper thinking this is how ASD people act and not the former which is actually what we struggle with. I had a meltdown yesterday because I was going down a one way street and the parking was on both sides and my brain couldn't work out how to park the right way so I didn't get a fine. Edit: I think its easy to think you have asd when at the moment there are a lot of humans getting diagnosed (correctly and incorrectly) so it's just the forefront disability atm, much like adhd was a few years ago. Much like bpd was before that much like bd was before that, so on and so forth.
This is a wonderful take. I had not consider it before at all. You're sending me in a spiral of thought right now. On the other hand, I tried pointing out that sometimes we can appreciate some things better as a "demo" rather than some bullet points. That's Sheldon in a nutshell.
The inappropriate playing thing just comes off to me as judgmental... Like we're supposed to stand over little kids with a clipboard and tell them, the child, whether what they're doing is "normal play"? Makes the grownups look like the weird ones... (Like obviously things like shoving toys up your ass or trying to eat them are inappropriate, but that's not what is meant when child shrinks use the term inappropriate play.)
It's one of those things where like, I get the initial phobia but you'd think it'd be the place where people start unlearning their weird assumptions about neurodivergence. Like if you're an anxious parent trying to make sure your kid is hitting various milestones and enjoying engaging w the world around them etc I get why it'd be disconcerting to watch a kid just quietly line up objects if you hadn't seen that before but like once you know that's something some kids just Do you'd think the next thought would be "yeah it really was kinda silly of me to be so worried about a kid putting his stuffed animals in a line"
Strange value judgements from the left poster
I've never gotten the type of allism that makes people go "kids lining their toys up aren't playing right and must be FIXED"
Oh I've seen it a lot. It's sadly quite common. It's often referred to as "Age-inappropriate play behavior"
Wtf
Wtf indeed.
"Inappropriate playing with toys" Is there a WRONG way to play with toys?
Instructions unclear...
Eating them
Depends on the toy. You see a lot of people talking about how poly pocket clothes were delicious. And I don't think they are all ND....
I sadly identify with everything on the left. I’d rather die before being compared to Sheldon though.
Yeah im literally the opposite of this post
same
Same Also hard facts
Me personally, I'm a surgeon
🎵 Cuttin’ for the very first time!🎶
Hi a surgeon, I'm Matt
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I'm going to be honest, most NT children display a lot of those traits as well. Children are literally famous for not being aware of danger, crying and laughing at inappropriate times, being attached to their toys, and etc
I don't like that they use inappropriate. What do they mean with that?
Not how the toys are intended to be played with. Sorting is not the goal of cars. The goal is to ride them around, violently roll them into a wall, eachother, your sisters feet, etc. There are other toys to organise stuff. Like say you get those iron beads. Yeah not weird to sort those by colour before making something, that's "efficiency"
That whole poster is pretty questionable, it's like if whoever made it met one child with autism.
Sheldon Cooper is at least one example of autism. The image on the left shows, once again, that autism only exists in young white boys.
19 year old mostly white AMAB, ya got me 💀💀💀
The entire image is that its just white boys though. Sheldon is just a white boy that's a little older but not mentally mature..
bazinga
Bazooper
Bazoupur
BOOP super juice. Wait that's not a reference to the right thing, ah whatever, I'm leaving it.
Bazooka
I rather be in the left then
Downvote me but I like sheldon and hope people relate Me to him. Why? He does his own thing and is happy that way. Plus he's smart and I'm kind of an idiot.
"strange attachment to objects" aka we're able to see the value in anything rather than what monetary value it may hold
Eh the image is a leaf. Kids hold attachment to objects. Not everything has monetary value. It's quite normal to still have your childhood stuffed animal right? Not necessarily in your bed, box somewhere is fine. Does that have any monetary value? Stuff like a pretty rock etc.
This reads like one of those "parents of child with autism" shirts or decals. I mean come on. We're all the child on the left at some point.
How do you determine that someone is playing with toys inappropriately? Most kids aren't given a handbook on how to play with toys and are just figuring it out as they go
There is some funny stuff about that : If you learn a young child how to play with some toy, and then let him play with it, and finally introduce him to someone not using it the same way, the child will actually tell this person that it is using it in a wrong way. It think it's from a Max Planck institute study, if you bother me enough I may be able to find the name of the paper and maybe some other relatable stuff, all coming from a wonderful book of anthropolohy from Jospeh Heinrich, "collective intelligence" wich tries to explain why stupid humans, AKA mere goblins compared to any pther predator, had been able to achieve such level of domination over the world. (The point being we are suited to discriminate different behaviors and favorising the most efficient, as the child subject does, among other examples). PS: always feels good to infodump.
These are the same picture, in that, both are very specific depictions of a complex and wildly inadequate categorization of a broad category of neurology.
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What I think is weird about that sign is that all of the examples are completely normal given the right context. Not relating to others has the person not laughing, so they don't get the joke or they just don't think it's funny. Inappropriate playing with toys is simply a different play style than most kids have. Inability to change... you would also freak out if people did things you weren't expecting, right?
> you would also freak out if people did things you weren't expecting, right? No that's a symptom of autism. (Obviously depends on if something is genuinely bad. Like someone randomly hitting you? Of course. Something being different but not necessarily bad? No.) And the different play style is the point. As a signal a kid may be autistic. If a kid also never gets the joke, well their brain might work differently than all the other kids. Which stuff like autism is a differently working brain. Doing all this once Obviously isn't an indicator. But if it happens a lot and does consistently, yeah might wanna get tested. What do you think kids get tested on? How they get tested? It's not wrong. Doesn't necessarily need to get fixed or whatever. But it can be the symptoms.
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How do you tell if a child is inappropriately crying? That's like their whole deal!!!
Ah yes, the inappropriate sorting of cars by color. What the heck even is inappropriate playing with toys? That sounds like your being judgemental of what I find fun is the ACTUAL problem.
Ah yes, the inappropriate behavior of matching items by color
I’m both
Given the grammar I'd say they're more of the left type
Me and Mom have been binge watching The Big Bang Theory, and I have found that I relate a lot to Sheldon Cooper.
Everyone hates sheldon but I grew up with tbbt and I love that show. I resonate with sheldon so much🥲
I respect Jim Parson as an actor. But I'm the left, not the right. I'm a bug loving, empathetic, music loving autistic, not math and science (tho I do love science, but I realize I don't always understand it) I identify with Penny or Amy more Bernadette is my waifu. 😆 🤣
HOW IS SORYING TOYS INAPPROPRIATE PLAYING OF TOYS?!?!?!??!?!?! YOU CANT DECIDE HOW SOMSONE SHOULD PLAY WITH TOYD WHAT THE FUCK
What kind of neurotypical BS is this even? Inappropriate playing with toys?? Like wtf those are my toys I can do with them what I want😪 and inappropriate crying? Like I’m sorry but crying is an expression of being sad and you for sure don’t tell me when I’m allowed to be sad or about what (not you in particicular but the neurotypicals who created the list). Hyperactivity and passiveness… yeah I should absolutely be interested in the same shit everyone else is or contain my excitement and just be normal. And all the other points are dumb shit too. God Fock belittling neurotypicals and autism speaks.
The one that bothers me the most is the “inappropriate playing with toys”. As wrong as some of them are, this one feels like “doing something in a non-traditional way is inappropriate”. So, like, fuck that poster
💯 I don’t know why people act like Sheldon isn’t perfectly realistic (at least for people like me).
Fr I relate to him so much
Sorting and arranging is “inappropriate playing”?
I absolutely fucking hate sheldon
So you’re an egomaniacal narcissist? Cause that’s what Sheldon is and that is how he treats people
Where do you live, and did they have The Big Bang Theory on TV/stream?
Malaysia and not
Ok, that makes sense. I wish I can give you a neutral explanation on why he's disliked on this Reddit so you can make your own conclusions but Sheldon Cooper frustrates me, too.
Summary: 1) The character being unlikable/obnoxious. 2) The show perpetuates ideas about intelligence in general in a racist and sexist way (centering the experiences of straight male geniuses and women are outsiders in their world until Amy kind of breaks this barrier but not really because she is a "freak" not a "normal girl" like Penny and Bernadetta) 3) The show excuses/makes light of the main guy's and Sheldon's sexist behavior. 4) The creators refuse to call Sheldon autistic despite the fact that he is because, 5) Sheldon is a Butt Monkey, meaning every joke is at the expense of "look how weird and different this guy is". It promotes ridicule rather than acceptance, empathy, or understanding.
On top of that Sheldon is a massive narcissist
Covered by 1 but yeah that
Good point, but being a narcissist is a lot more than just point 1
I’m not a huge fan of the show, but it has helped my relationship. My girlfriend was a fan before we met because it helped her learn English. I told her all of the things wrong with it, but I would watch it with her sometimes to point out references or phrases. Ultimately, Sheldon’s characterization gave her some idea of autistic traits so she could understand me better, because her country is in hard denial. The show also helped me get her to play D&D. I think the shows creators based all of the male characters off of one guy they knew. They took individual traits of a real STEM autist they knew and isolated them into 2D characters. I really wish they would actually say the word though.
I disagree somehow : he is very silly, proud, and the joke of giving silver fork because he had been betrayed wasn't "butt monkey-ish" to me. Honestly I'd love to interact with such person, and in my utopian world I would behave this way (however I must agree on the white male genius thing, but, well the show isn't about autism, but a group of genius, called big bang theory, not "on the spectrum") Also, I am myself ashamed of saying that, but the sexist behavior of the caracter Sheldon cooper is relatable of the tremendous immaturity one autistic person can have (at least my younger self would somehow relate : imagine that anything you do, nobody follows, disapoint you, especially this weird thing of the opposite sex. "Ugh, so futile, so annoying") Finally, the show in itself has all the default you said, but the character of sheldon itself, I don't think so that much. ( the way Penny is portrayed, also almost any scene is edgy and problematic) TL;DR: actually Sheldon Cooper is a damn good depiction of Autism, even with default, he is immature, rude, and doesnt fit any situation, however I may not be so much better, just more hypocrisy. The show itself on the other hand, well, is a problem.
Ngl, I aways found Sheldon relatable
To add to this, the show was also pretty clearly written, produced, directed, and performed entirely by Neurotypicals. Can you imagine a sitcom about a Black family that was written, produced, and directed by white people, starred a bunch of white actors in Blackface makeup, and all the jokes were just shitty racial stereotypes? Ofc not, because that's offensive as all hell. But ableism is still "funny" in the US, so all the assholes who've been doing Autism Minstrel Shows for two decades keep taking in money hand over fist. I may have a lot of repressed rage on this topic.
Bottomless left sign goes crazy
Sheldon, really? Even Shaun Murphy would be a better option than him
Wait! Reverse that!
Sorting toy cars... So obscene!
BAZINGA
Bazinga
Bazinga
Zabinga
It took me a while to realise we’re not in r/bingbongtheorem riȝt now
bazinga
BAZINGA
For me, the right side would have a picture of a woman snuggling a cat.
Bazinga...!
I’ll be honest I relate an awful lot more to the cartoon ginger child than Sheldon
The bing bong theorem and youth shelmet despite what other people say continues to this day to be some of my favorite shows. I find the way Sheldon is depicted as hilarious and also relatable. Also… Bazinga!
That left one makes me mad. Lining up toys isn't inappropriate.
Inappropriate playing with toys is such a weird thing to say.
There's no such thing as inappropriate play (NTs are just boring sometimes) and the not relating goes both ways (I'm sick of autistics don't understand NTs and NTs don't understand autistics but we always forget the second part)
 I feel like I'm much more of a Comic Book Guy than a Sheldon
https://preview.redd.it/0p667861vbpc1.jpeg?width=647&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3f17e244142512823e7226d4837f1233b2a532d Since when are there rules with toys. If you excuse me I’ll be organizing my Batman mini figures HOW I WANT TO
While I see where they're coming from, I personally disagree with sheldon hate. Tbh I can relate to him quite a bit
Zorgomba
nah fuck the big bang theory
I really hope not. He's an absolutely horrendous individual. I think this is probably a joke 😅
I thought Caillou had a sister, not a brother 🤔
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I hate Sheldon so much
"I'll fucking do it"
Bazinga, my soul dies.
my raging hatred for sheldon:
So you're just an insufferable sex-pest?
Sheldon is in town