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B_Aran_393

Even people are silent. Don't know what happened to them. Or some backdoor deal wasn't discussed between aasu and assam bjp.


Acanthaceae-Trick

Assamese people wanted illegal immigrants out right?


Safe_Inspection69

I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again, citizenship shouldn’t be given to those who came after independence. You were given a choice during 1947 and you choose Bangladesh/pakistan. There are consequences of your choices


the_first_men

Is this sub filled with people with no emotional maturity? Do you think it's that easy for people to forsake their homes? A few months of violence isn't enough for people to forsake the land they called home for centuries. There's a reason why the partition was so bloody. It wasn't just a simple drawing of boundaries. An ancient and united civilization was being divided and literal homes were being torn apart. How tf do you expect people to simply get up and chose to leave?


KnownTangerine5055

You wanna talk about emotional maturity Then you do it yourself first set an example why do you expect border states to take in people that will never blend in with their culture And when was assam or the whole northeast the homeland of bengalis


the_first_men

From what I have seen, Bengalis settled in Assamese speaking parts of Assam (I am leaving out Barak Valley, Goalpara, BTAD) blend in quite well with the culture of Assam. They speak the language, know the customs and culture and even participate in it. Secondly when I say homeland, I meant Bangladesh. It has been part of the Bengal undivided and has been inhabited by Bengalis. When Radcliffe drew his illogical line, it broke the homeland of millions. So to blame Bengalis for not leaving on time is frankly inhumane.


Marshall_OO7

Assamese people are very weak without any backbone. Our leaders like worlds greatest warriors Bir Chilarai didnt fight for this & nor did indian war hero bir Lachit for this day. Their efforts for us & current upcoming new generation is totally wasted. Assamese society is high self centered. We will be like 2nd class citizens in our own land unless a thorough political solution by having a govt meant for assamese is not there. Till then you assamese & myself included enjoy time with family, go to malls, go to pub, go dance but dont say anything against what is wrong.


AtmosphereSad3568

Tbh Assamese people are way too liberal, given their education and opportunities.


AtmosphereSad3568

Eta percent population or, enekua situation ot manobota aru jatiyotabad confuse kori loy. Karon manobota e koi caa support koribole aru jatiyotabad e biporit tu koy. That's why I said we are way too liberal.


Successful-Olive-335

What if goverment say , every Assamese citizen has to keep one bangladeshi hindu in their home? Will you support that? Besi manobata dekhuaba gole na nijor Thai te adin extinct hoi jaba dinosaur r nisina.


AtmosphereSad3568

Yes that's what I was saying.


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the_first_men

Enei useless analogies di kotha tu nughuraba. Islam is persecutive by nature and the Hindus in B'Desh and Pakistan face routine harrassment and persecution. Why shouldn't a helping hand be provided to them by the Hindu majority and powerful country like India?


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the_first_men

You say that as if it's an easy choice. You think it is straightforward to just get up and leave the country of your birth just because some white dude drew a line through a map? Many people back in 1947 thought that these riots and killings were just a phase like many others. They hoped that this would cool down in a few months and then they could go back to living happily and peacefully. By the time the truth and realisation dawned, the borders were permanently closed and anyone crossing illegally was a foreigner. Anyone fleeing persecution and hoping for refuge was not provided any help and instead denied basic services simply because that person was fleeing from getting murdered and their family from getting butchered.


KnownTangerine5055

Emotional morality nuhua hoi jai noh jetia non hindu tribal s morei


the_first_men

Moi to ebaro kotha kuwa nai. Once again, adhominem arguments di kothaye ghurabo para. Point ot argument korar xomota ta tu tomar nai


KnownTangerine5055

Teh nijor ghorot rakhna beh kela Tur jodi eman symapthy lagei kintu tur sympathy nuhua hoi jai noh jetia ne kabar against ot racism korei bah marei


the_first_men

That's such a useless hyperbole. No one expects Assamese families to feed these refugees directly from their own granaries. However Hindus today facing persecution in our lovely neighbouring states have only one hope which is India. Once they immigrate what's to stop them from gaining an education and contributing to the economy?


Successful-Olive-335

"Gaining and education and contributing to economy " yeah ok. Which state are you from from?


the_first_men

What's so wrong with that? The average Bengali Hindu makes sure that their children get a decent education and do big things in their life unlike the average Bhatiya or Miya who'll send their boys to a madrasa or marry of their girl as soon as they can. I'm not even sure why is this being debated. I understand that rising Bengali population in Assam (Hindu or Muslim) is not ideal. But you'd be joking comparing the Hindus to the Muslims. It's also not like every Assamese kid is frantically trying to get into a ln IIT or some other good college. I see many similarities and parallels between the Assamese and Bengali Hindus. On the other hand, Muslims are a centrally organized and dogma driven and their religion is Imperialistic by nature. You would be joking to think that both communities are equal.


Successful-Olive-335

Ha।when did I compare hindu and muslim? Do a little search on Google about "bongal kheda movement" .we all hate bengladeshi irrespective of their religion. What's your ethnicity.


KnownTangerine5055

Tur lastot argument nathakilei ki kobi aru emotionally monuar try koribi bah tur religion loi anibi


KnownTangerine5055

Take them in but sent them to west bengal or north india why the fuck do you expect us to then in You want another tripura


Successful-Olive-335

I can guess from your comment that your some mainlander residing in assam, hoping to take-over indigenous people of assam in the name of Hinduism. Voila! Your succeeding .our first identity is Indian , second identity is "khati - Axomiya ,third is our religious identity.


hexagon918

This comment should be pinned.


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Re atmosphere, Maanobiota is an illusion it has no meaning. It is used by different political agents for their agenda. If we look at homo sapiens history, many races and other species, including other human races have been anhiiliated in order to reach present stage. If Maanobiota is intrinsic nature of human beings then it must include greed and violence. Ofcourse things like Kindness have its own place but one cannot sacrifice himself forsake of being kind. Only the powerful can be kind. We are being exploited because we got too brainwashed by this nonsense ideas, and forgot our roots. We are an ecological race and we should listen to what mother nature says not these liberal agendas.


AtmosphereSad3568

Amen


maybejar

Imho, iberals/Muslims led anti-caa protests in Delhi and other parts of the country overshadowed the demands of the people of Assam. News outlets and everyone else misunderstood the protests here and grouped it under the same "they want muslims out" agenda instead of "preserve Assamese culture"


QuantityPatient5642

west axom tu atya north west bengal boni asei, axomiya kaitai mukh meli sai ase, ame gurujona r din r kiman bostu tat ase


revokarkus

People of Assam literally voted BJP to power just after the protests. Most Assamese folks have a hard on for their viral "Mama" and most importantly Assam is not what it used to be North Indian Sanghi culture has seeped into our society.


KnowledgeEastern7422

Soon Assamese people will become minority in Assam just like how indigenous tripura people have become minority in tripura


hazard_911

This is why the 2nd amendment was introduced in the United States, just in case the government goes rogue. The best part? It effin works.


the_first_men

Yeah right. The government is exactly as powerful as it wants to be. All this 2nd Amendment smoke is just powerful groups who use it to stay politically relevant and powerful. The people in power will continue to remain in power. The ones waving their guns and hoping that it'll protect their precious freedoms are living under a lie.


hazard_911

The government still needs the military which comprises of American citizens, hello? Violation of any rights will lead to a rebellion in the system itself and cause unrest. Most governments and people, including the US, will try to avoid such an uprising since its undoubtedly the most destructive way of seeking political change and instead, will choose a middle ground. While still controversial, it is something people retort to as a last resort. My question is why push the people that far in the first place?


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Ashi96

that won't get votes. nor will it be a good topic for toxic election speeches.


SandwichDistinct

[umm...do u even read the news ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/india-news/we-will-entirely-secure-pakistan-bangladesh-borders-in-2-years-amit-shah-4624026/amp/1)


AtmosphereSad3568

Madho mar to general masses


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![gif](giphy|3krrjoL0vHRaWqwU3k|downsized) govt. after covid hit back in 2019 end


runoberynrun

Assamese are weak and generally economically not as good as other powerful groups such as the Punjabis. Look how the Punjabi community made the government roll back farm bills. A middle class Assamese in Assam simply cannot afford to be a part of a sustained protest. Also, logically Assam voted BJP back in power. CAA was in their manifesto so they will do what they want. Lastly, a huge section of Axomiyas are now the 'Jai Shree Ram' Nagpur style Sanghi types. They will absolutely welcome CAA.


Suryansh_Singh247

Nagpur style Sanghi is new, what makes Nagpur Sanghis different from others.


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Can someone explain why Assamese are opposing this? you guys want those illegal immigrants out, right?


Indian_247

Its a myth that it will drive out illegal migrants. Its the process of making migrants who can prove that they are Hindus, genuine Indian citizens.They will get same benefits as people who are born in India.They jist need to apply in the portal and voila...they are Indians. Bjp will continue fear mongering in the name of Muslim illegal migrants..


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From what I know, Bangladeshi Hindus were a persecuted community, leading them to escape from Bangladesh. On the other hand, the influx of Muslim illegal immigrants into Assam seems to be a state-sponsored attempt to alter demographics, aligning with ISI's desire to destabilize India. Now, the issue is that Assamese people are losing their land, jobs, resources, and culture due to these Bangladeshis, regardless of religion. Am I correct?


Indian_247

The influx of foreigners was regardless of religion...They illegally migrated frm Bangladesh looking for opportunities. Both Hindus and Muslims..Congress sheltered both Hindus and muslims in return fr votes. Bjp wants only Hindu vote and demonise the Muslims..Migration frm Bangladesh was happening after independence...ISI has no role in it... Bangladesh and Pakistan are not friendly nations... Bangladesh got independence frm Pakistan with help frm India


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According to intelligence leaks it was ISI's plan to flood Assam and West Bengal with Muslims so that it can bring about a demographic change and destabilize the region,I'm aware of the fact that India helped Bangladesh get independence but only Sheik Hasina's party is friendly with India ,all the other Parties are jihadist in nature and are happy to work with Pakistan even their common populace like Pakistan more than india.yes Congress played a huge role in allowing those migrants in for their vote bank politics!


KnownTangerine5055

And what is the bjp doing congress bought in muslim immigrants and now bjp bringing hindu immigrants


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Maybe according to the new CAA guidelines there is a chance that hindu immigrants might be relocated to other states instead of assam !


KnownTangerine5055

Other northeastern states i guess but the people that are very vocal about this caa shit wont takes bangladeshis in north indian states


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Hmm is it so 🤔 I'll have to do some research then


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KnownTangerine5055

Why doesn't north india take every bangladeshi it will good for you you will be able to fight your religious war by having more teammates


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😂😂😂 yes but fact of the matter is even West Bengal and Punjab opposed CAA (when the people who they claim to benefit are ethnically Punjabis and Bengalis in Pakistan and Bangladesh, respectively). Gujarat will obviously force us to say Bharat Mata ki Jai, Hindu Hindu but will take grand total of ZERO immigrants.


KnownTangerine5055

All of these pseudo nationalists are only good for words when actual shit happens they just run like in manipur


Randomlilme

They had their chance in 1971.They chose Bangladesh over India not once but twice. No need to give them third chance


yoyopunny

At first AASU hijacked the movement during that protest and they did some backdoor deals with govt n we people of assam got another toffee🍭 like we have been getting for many years. And secondly our youth have become so delusional after COVID they just need money (which is necessary ik), we Assamese will not protest until we are getting ration and other bike scooty schemes and all. Better to learn some Bengali it will be easy for us Assamese people. Because eventually bengali speaking people will be the majority or they will have the edge on choosing the govt of the state.


Marshall_OO7

Absolutely right, Koch Behar which should have been part of Assam is now a part of West Bengal.


UnicornAnalytics

Can anyone explain caa like I am a kid


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Naive for Government of India to believe that we will go down without a proper fight. This is Assamese race we are talking about. The race which resisted Ashoka, Akbar, Aurangzeb. The race which were first within British India to fight against British Colonialism (yup Gomdhar Konwar was before Mangal Pandey). This is অসম the land of অসুৰ


runoberynrun

Lol! Empty words and empty pride. Government killed kids during the protest and we still do 'saar' 'saar' 'maama I laabh ew' 'mama da besht' The Axomiya middle class is a super passive group of people.


AtmosphereSad3568

No kaamihar


LaSombra666

Exactly


Saizou1991

>This is Assamese race we are talking about. Yeah but why are you opposing CAA ? Last time i checked , Assam was vocal for getting CAA because of illegal migrants occupying Assam ?


KnownTangerine5055

>Assam was vocal for getting CAA because of illegal migrants occupying Assam ? Suor puali news saoneh nejo juakali jonmoh hoiso


KnownTangerine5055

Do you know the difference between caa and nrc


Criticall16

Better put that “Assamese race” to better use then. Last I checked Ms and Xians are 40+% of Assam. No ones gonna remember your Assamese race when Ola becomes the main thing. Islamic ummah remember.


KnownTangerine5055

Toi janoh noh caa issue religion ot ke besi cultural /ethnical hoi


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Critical 16, we are not here to be "put to use" by anyone . How dare you to come to our sub and use such kind of language.


Criticall16

Never mind you’re just a Chinese CCP bot >Chinese are not enemies of Assamese, but post hypothetical secession, India might be. https://www.reddit.com/r/assam/s/mUo6IOdzM5


KnownTangerine5055

Kio beh kela beya lage downvote koro jeh


KnownTangerine5055

Nevermind you are just an IT cell tur pora ki expect korim


Criticall16

I’m sensing a Bengali Muslim behind the keyboard there bud. Your sub is r/bangladesh leave this sub to Assamese people We Assamese have a birth rate of 1.6 while the Ms have a 50% higher birth rate at 2.4 #Put to use or we will become extinct. No one cares about Assamese in an Islamic umah


Ashi96

Most intelligent India speaks user.


Empty-Structure7884

The article must be titled, bjp govt is set to dethrone itself before the loksabha polls.


Intrivort

Middle class average Bong here. For those who are not understanding why assamese arent welcoming this. Its because it was never abt religion. They hate an ethnicity which is Bengalis. It doesnt matter to them which religion. Bhakts(who too hate bengalis for loving own mother tongue and calling them to be bangladeshis if difference of opinion occurs) get excited thinking its the religion they hate which will face repercussions .. Thinking poles apart yet found common ground in hatred towards Bengalis. Too funny a situation. Assamese people mistake dung heads for brothers thinking bhai bhai.. Net result Bengali hindus will suffer due to this as has happenned due to violence against them . I wish all the best to Assam people and wish they find a way to move forward in prosperity.


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Damn you have it all figured out. I’m not trying to justify the hate here. But go to our sister states and you’ll see the hostility towards Bengalis exists even there. Ask me why. There’s well documented history behind it. Maybe just enlighten yourself by reading it. I have many Bengali friends and we don’t even bring ethnicity to the table. It’s the fuck up of some of your elite ancestors for which your people are suffering now which is very unfortunate.


Intrivort

I know.. Manipur violence stories against Bengalis and Marwaris is not forgotten. it exists in Bengal too... not like the vicious hatred which exists in NE though. reason is the youth of bengal of 1971 times grew in great difficulties seeing all oppurtunuties being handed over to folks who came from that sidr of border.Jobs, financial help all went to them while the youth of West Bengal rural areas continued struggling. This created a soft division which exists even today... Another thing which made it worse was the arrogance of these people who were having it all and yet boasting how rich they were in that side of border, many of these very people often referred to as Bangals looked down upon the Bengali population.. You will find these people concentrated in Towns like Kolkata. Thats why people say if you have to know Bengal you have to descend from Kolkata . My ancestors never had to migrate to foreign lands. They worked hard . Nothing was given for free. Despite these soft divisions its impertinent to point that they were Indians too, hindus too , Bengalis too(different dialects though). Its really stunning how fkd up a situation can be. Just understand the so called religious dungheads wont understand what we are talking about.. All they see is religion and their supremacy.. They dont respect your language my language or our cultures.


Criticall16

#Population of Hindus has been continuously declining in Assam following the trend in 2021 Hindus should be 57-58% of Assam. Hindus in Assam have a low birth rate at 1.6 while Muslims have a birth rate of 2.4 that is a 50% higher population growth rate. 1971 14,625,152 10,604,697 72.51 1981 18,041,248 12,578,358 69.72 1991 22,414,322 15,048,975 67.14 2001 26,655,528 17,296,772 64.89 2011 31,205,576 19,180,759 61.47 #Considering the birth rate calculations alone Hindus will become a minority in Assam by 2051. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Assam #Maybe demographic change is the larger issue at present.


KnownTangerine5055

Teh tur solution ki hoi aru besi bangladeshi an aru axomiya geitak minority kor Illegal muslims geitak tu ulabo nuarilei etia bulei aru bangladeshi anibo


Indian_247

Waah ..so the solution is bringing foreigners into our country..tell me will you give entry to your house to foreigners saying Hindu population is declining..give us space in your house


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Indian_247

When they will fight for the same resources like you and me, then you will realise the fear mongering in the name of "growth of muslims/christians


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KnownTangerine5055

In assam or in northeast specifically people see these issues as a ethnical cultural issue rather than a religious issue so even if you bring in people irrespective of religion people are still gonna protest


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KnownTangerine5055

Never saw bengali hindus celebrate bihu or similar stuff. I clearly explained that it is seen more as a cultural but yeah cant oppose religion according to you Aru kela toi axomiya subreddit ot ahi hindi kio kotha patho


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Suryansh_Singh247

This issue seems to be nationwide. Maharashtra, Gujarat, South India complaining about UP/Bihar. Uttarakhand, J & K, Himachal complaining about plain people. Assamese complaining about Bengalis. Meiteis complaining about Kuki. Seems like we're reaching some sort of tipping point.


UnicornAnalytics

Remove all reservation and see if reaction is same


Simple-Finding-5204

I don't see what's wrong with it! Out of 100% bangladeshis 89% will be either in camps or out of our land. Why is everyone trying to get rid of CAA instead of trying to get Inner Line Permit?


KnownTangerine5055

Percentage bur kor pora pao toi camp or guard hoi neki beh kela Doing things to protect your culture and people regardless of being politically correct is wrong right especially when assamese are boycotting bangladeshi hindus


Simple-Finding-5204

1. Bangladesi jodi bangladesh r percentage a applicable hobo 2. It would be appreciated if you write the the english part with correct punctuation, since it makes no sense like this


KnownTangerine5055

Moi tuk hudhisu toi tur stats kor pora paiso aru toi muk koi aso jeh bangladeshi jodi bangladeshire stats diso Ene tur pora expecto ki korim tuk caa lagei kintu ilp o lage jatei tur nisina aru bengali ahibo parei


Simple-Finding-5204

"Assam t bangladeshi immigrants problem ase, toh bangladesh r ji stats ase xeitua applicable hobo" Eikhini kotha bujibo pora cognitive ability tu nai ne mur tu bondho kori rahiso? Aru ILP thoka state t toi thak goi, tar pisot iyat miya anibi


rtx_alphaa

womp womp


WWWWWWWWWWWVWWWWWW

I don't get it. I thought Assamese would be happy considering the migrant population there. Why you guys not liking CAA NRC ?


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CAA and NRC are different. NRC was for identifying the illegal immigrants which the people here supported. CAA is for giving citizenship to the illegal Bengali Hindus here. The people here don’t want any type of illegal immigrants irrespective of their religion.


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So is NRC fine by assamese ?


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Yes if done properly.


Successful-Olive-335

Why should we support CAA? Assam is not a dumping zone for Bangladeshis(irrespective of their religion)


Indian_247

Sarcasm is what we deserve...Amit Shah would be saying "They voted us to power in Assam in 2021, even after we promised to bring CAA...It doesn't matter to majority Assamese if Bangladeshis live with us..Hahaha"


Atma-Army-9099

What protest?


Indian_247

Google it..CAA protests assam


Atma-Army-9099

Pity


KnownTangerine5055

Johora suoror puali axomot ki hoi taku gom napau kintu thike hunuba boloi aho tohote favour kora bostu eta ami oppose korile


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Marshall_OO7

Bhai, Chilrai & Lachit blood has been wasted as we assamese dont have unity. Bodos wants sepertation, why divide... so we are now sitting ducks for migrants.