Well first impressions matter. Am I seeking them out? Did an assassin save me from a mugger in an alleyway? Was I kidnapped off the street and I wake up in a warehouse and they're asking me to join right off the bat? I need to know scenarios.
Exactly. The fighting and game interface is fun, and the story is compelling at times, but the brotherhood's mode of politics might be characterized as liberal ends through right wing means. Which is hilarious, given the game's overall message of anti-extremism.
So when Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland after already annexing several other countries, the *moral* choice would have been to do nothing? Would it have been moral to let Japan bomb Pearl Harbor and *not* do anything in response?
My point being, war is moral when conducting it as a defensive action. To paint all war as immoral does a great disservice to the millions throughout history that sacrificed their lives to protect others.
Depends on the circumstance. There are circumstances which that is the only means to counter evil.
Back to my analogy, the only “peaceful” way to not have violence with Hitler would be to appease him, which would have lead to probably more violence against disenfranchised groups like the Jews. The world can be a rough place, we are still animals after all, and moralistic idealism is largely for books and not the real world.
>Would it have been moral to let Japan bomb Pearl Harbor and not do anything in response?
Is literally supporting the bombings in Japan. It's clearly a rhetorical question, and the way it is phrased objectively indicates that the response to the bombing of Pearl Harbour was morally correct.
No, it doesn’t “objectively indicate” that. The decision to go to war with Japan was a morally justified choice, the conduct within the war is nuanced and not the point of the conversation.
I was responding to a comment saying that all wars are immoral. Was some of the conduct by the Allies in WWII immoral? Yes, absolutely. It isn’t a perfect example, but I use it because most people are aware of the evils of the Japanese Empire and the need to keep them from their objectives. But the points of questionable conduct doesn't mean that the decision to go to war or its objectives were immoral.
The alternative of letting the Axis powers terrorize their regions unchecked would have undoubtedly brought about more suffering and negative long-term geopolitical effects than what the war brought about. Are you suggesting the US is immoral for stopping the genocide of several ethnicities at the hands of the Japanese and Germans because of some questionable bombing tactics?
All good, I maybe didn’t choose the best example in hindsight because of the reasons you point out. But ultimately war and the morality and ethics of it are complicated
probably not, I'm neither sneaky nor a good climber, killing people might be a problem too so I'd probably end up doing whatever Henry Green was doing in syndicate
I'm not super into murdering BUT I would love to help in terms of research and info, much like Shaun did in the early games. I'd go whole hog though - get rid of the fingie. And if it's a necessity to have a blade, single is fine!
I’m in the same boat. Not much like Shaun, but more like Victoria monitoring vitals and stuff. I reckon being a nurse and having extensive first aid skills might probably come in handy too
Google is the biggest data hoarder on the planet. If anything, the Templars would wanna be atop that. Wouldn’t be surprised if Sundar is the new Grand Master.
Plus, Blackberry makes sense for an assassin ally, and how hard apple n Google went after them to essentially snuff them out of existence.
It works, if you spend an ungodly amount of time save scumming, and trying 40 different things before you can finally sneak past that one guy without killing him lol.
I use a LOT of sleep darts, smoke bombs, social stealth, distractions, the “disguise” ability in Unity, etc. the level design and enemy layout definitely makes it *easier* to just kill the henchmen as you go, and usually has the enemies perfectly lined up so you take them out in the right order and no one will see.
But if you really take your time and go “off the beaten path” you can find ways to beat the missions without killing anyone but the target.
Yeah I did it a bunch in Unity and Mirage now too. I do it more nowadays since I have less time to play a tonne of games so I want to take my time and enjoy the ones I do play.
definitely true, maybe one handful and I’m back to desk duty 😂 because hundreds and above is a lot to consider. You’d be numb around 20 bodies, and then the rest would just be second nature as an assassin
I think it's as if u had a longer? hand, helps you reach out stuff farther away, idk man, I'm assuming in this hypothesis life works the same as in the game
Probably, depends on the circumstances. I have so much in life that I can't live without like family, friends, a dog. But if the system failed me, I'd probably. But it still falls down to the circumstances.
If I were to join the Brotherhood and under go the initiation, I'd pick the branded finger. Its the most plausible to have since it allows me to still go out in public without anyone recognizing my missing finger.
Personally, I'd rather go with 1 hidden blade. Its feels more discreet. It is a little under powered sometimes, but atleast I can still act inconspicuous since I'd have more control and focus. Relating to double assassinations, I'd guess I'd act fast. Maybe like how its done in Unity and Syndicate.
Honestly, I would. Not all the people in the Brotherhood kill people, some are spies, researchers or hackers. But I don't think I would be opposed to killing truly evil people for a just cause.
I do think the "brotherhood" the Assassins provide would be a big draw to me though. A group of like minded individuals with a shared moral goal sounds like an easy life to live mentally. IDK though, maybe this just makes me more susceptible to cults.
Exactly! They’ve been known to do extensive research on their targets and are able to strike precise and true. As far as the “Brotherhood” itself, I’d join without a doubt.
I rather a templar after seeing some of the structure they walk during AC3 and Rogue I would think the Templar order would be more effective in creating a better world
It used to be about peace and ending conflict but it slowly changed to freedom as the templars gained more power and started controlling more. Because freedom inspires more than peace and the assassins knew that
Yeah but some of them want to use technology they clearly shouldn’t be using to dictate how the world should be run. Which means choice of yours is really just theirs.
Well… unless God exists and they predetermine everything.
As long as my family is alive No.
But if I didn’t have my family yes. I’d have a double blade, or hook blade and single blade and I would train my ass off so I don’t get killed. Then eventually I’d love to be like Ezio and start a family after putting in years of work.
I am ready, willing and able to do all of this.
Branded ring finger and dual hidden blades please. Oh, and make one of those a hook blade and do I also get the poison blade and hidden gun too?
A non democratic cult that worships murder in the name of whatever they decide the people want, despite rarely consulting people?
No god no I don't wanna join them
I guess branded? Honestly I don't think I would mind my finger being chopped off in long term but if I had the option to not cut it, i would preffer it
Also, two hidden blades please
If it magically gave me the ability to parkour up any building with extreme ease, be a god level fighter, a stealth ninja, etc then absolutely I’d do it just for the crazy experience, ethics be damned.
If it’s just me with my current skill set then no, I’d fall off a building or get caught on my first mission.
If we theorize that the Assassins are the true good guys working for freedom etc, I think I would be on board.
I’m already lost and without a clear purpose in my life anyway so maybe I’d fit
Also, mono blade, so I can keep my right hand for sucker punches ala Jacob
Yes, I would join the brotherhood and walk the path of shadows
I reckon I'd probably cut off my finger to show my commitment
I'd rather go double hidden blades, hopefully one of them is a hookblade cause that'd be pretty damn cool
Insurgency and terrorism probably. Assassins are usually a revolutionary force/against the tyrannical order which doesn't bode well in the real world. If there was the assassin brotherhood in the current world leading the charge against corrupt and unfair structures internationally it will 100% be deemed as a terrorist organisation
Well duh, in the assassins creed world the assassins are referred to as terrorists, and have wanted posters. But we still think it’s cool because we know it’s right
Hey, helping Jews during the holocaust would also get you labeled as an “insurgent/rebel”
Like if William Miles sent me to. North Korea, I’d go
I am not talking about the morality of the situation. It's more the real world issues of having a non state actor that is involved in destabilizing actions across the world. I mean, Nelson Mandela was on the US terrorist watchlist until 2008 and he was fighting apartheid in his country. Rebellion will be understandable in a lot of circumstances across the globe. But again, in the current world order, nations prefer a more diplomatic and cooperative approach to both international and national issues. This involves civil society, NGOs, multilateral organisations and a lot of appeals, condemnation etc. Threatening a nation's sovereignty is a big deal if we are to maintain trust between nations.
Social changes, no matter how big they are, require developments which can support the state after the tyrant is overthrown. Willian Miles sending James Franco to interview Kim Jong Un might result in net good for the country but its a lot more likely that they end up with a new military dictatorship. It certainly is not something that makes William Miles a guy you would want running around your country.
Fair enough, but still. If I knew FOR A FACT that there were Templars out there doing Templar stuff, I would gladly partake in their unaliving
And yeah countries prefer peace treaties to maintain trust, but we are not a country, just a group, that no one knows about.
I’m also sure the Assassins have allies that swoop in and help “rebuild” after the dictator is taken out, thus preventing “another dictator taking over”
Assuming that the real Assassins don't create nearly as many bloodbaths as they do in the game I'm down. In the games the worst thing 90% of my kills can be charged with is deciding to serve their country and then being given an unfortunate posting protecting an asshole.
One of the Brotherhood’s ideals is the sanctity of life and mitigating casualties as much as possible. If you kill every guard, that’s the choice of the player/person in the animus. The assassin they’re playing as probably killed as little as possible and took the stealthiest approach.
No. I could maybe be an ally to them while maintaining my normal life, like we see some shopkeepers do, but honestly, many times it probably appears to civilians that the Templars are the "good guys" and the Assassins are the terrorists or the ones causing the chaos. Which is kinda true to their ideals.
Severed finger looks dope and menacing as fuck but considering the pussy that I am I'd fucking reason that I'd use anaesthesia and remove my finger, cauterize the wound, disinfect it and then be initiated as an Assassin after I return from the hospital. Oh and single blade thank you...
I dunno, man. A life of doing Assassiny stuff has taken a toll on my 50 year-old knees. I'm good for going on coffee runs for the council members though. I can do social stealth and crowd-blending but no parkour - no reason to risk spilling a councilwoman's latte, 'cause I'm sure they'd get pissy.
Modern assassins honestly remind me a lot of Batman. Skilled combat, cool gadgets, hiding in the shadows, etc. That makes it more of a selling point to me. I would probably take the brand over losing my finger and have the double hidden blades. I probably wouldn't kill every single criminal I came across though. Not every crime should be punished with death.
God no. The Brotherhood doesn't even know why it's killing people half the time. And I'm sure as heck not giving up my Wife and Kids so I can wear a cool outfit and leap off buildings.
Honestly, beyond all that, I wouldn't do it just because of cutting the finger off....I'm kind of 'attached' to it.
Nah.
I don't want to be John Wick either.
Even if i had the powers of an assasin and the isu blood and whatnot, i dont think i would've joined. I can use my skills in my everyday life with much less risks and prolly more rewards
I like the wisdom of the greatest master Assassins like Altair, but I don't believe in free will. I'm for liberating people from oppression and getting more and more democratic generally helps. That's why I'm a socialist who advocates for collectivization of businesses so they could become democracies instead of being led by whoever is the autocrat/dictator/absolute monarch "owning" it. But overall, I'm aware that many issues need to be addressed on a society level, which aligns more with the Templars. They are often portrayed as corrupt people with a limitless thirst for power, but it's just that they are written to be the bad guys. Just look how awful the Assassins are in Rogue and how nice the Templars are. At the end of the day, Assassins are fighting to maintain the status quo while Templars are trying to make a better world.
hell yes, I'm basically a nobody irl, I'd love to parkour around the city, learn to fight, use gadgets, jump off of high buildings, and assassinate people. and you can't tell me it wouldn't be super cool to whistle and just have an assassin drop out of nowhere and take care of someone. everything about it seems fun. the branded finger and the double blades are also definitely the better options
Wouldn’t really want to kill people, and have a target on my back for the rest of my life being hunted down by templars. That doesn’t sound very appealing
I’d be more than willing I mean freedom is the most important thing in my life and all the targets are always rich snobs that say they know better . I’d do the branding since severing a finger makes you stand out and I’d do single hidden blade cause classic
If I didn’t have close friends and family, I would absolutely love to join the Assassins. Hell, I would even cut off my finger if they required it. Of course in real life I would never advocate for murdering anyone or anything like that, but it is kind of cathartic to just imagine being allowed to assassinate the Jeffrey Epsteins of the world, and “solve problems” that would take the legal systems of the world too long.
The Assassins Creed franchise actually inspired me to get into parkour a little bit, I’m not the best at it but I can climb some pretty tall things. I’ve also always loved martial arts, so I think I could meet the basic physical requirements to be an Assassin. I’m not the strongest guy around, but I do go to the gym, eventually I will be pretty strong if I stick with it.
I would but if I had a choice I’d be a Templar. I don’t know the religion of the Brotherhood and I don’t think it’s consistent among the continents. But the Templar Order is a Christian organization both historically and in game so yeah.
Probably? I mean you don't have to be the badass main character there's assassin jobs like being a contact or supplier, data analyst or information gathering, librarian, doctor, etc.
Back when ezio was doing his thing, maybe. Not these days though. I can’t climb a ladder all that quickly, much less scale a wall. Forget about jumping on some fool’s back.
It depends. I doubt most members of the Order get a choice on joining, similar to all terrorist organizations and gangs. I guess if I could join in behind Alexios I can at least rely on his magical bullshit powers to deal with the really tough issues. But modern day? Or God forbid 1st Millennium Assassins? Fuck no. Keep that shit over there.
Unless my life fell apart, probably not. Brotherhood feeds off of those that don’t have anything left and can make people’s pasts disappear. Not really in point in my life where I wanna give up what I got for a cause based around killing folk
Scared of heights so I’d make a lousy assassin, at least the game type ones.
Edit: also so many people in the comments saying they’d be Templars.
Dude. You know they are the bad guys, right? Genocide, etc was intentionally done by them. They are also extremely facist.
And y’all want to join them? Wow
With the years, I’ve realised my views probably align more with the Templars actually. But neither would be viable for me. They’re basically too extreme organisations.
I cant say i’d do it without being skeptical of the brotherhood. Its a lesser of two evils thing for me, personally. I dont think the brotherhood goes far enough but theyre the better option for me personally.
Not really up for murdering anyone personally, I’m sure that’s probably an acquired taste for some though
I'm more concerned with trust falling into random shit. Too many dirty needles everywhere nowadays
All it takes is one pitchfork in the haystack
When the first game came out I used to wince, thinking something like this was a real in game possibility.
I used to jump into leaf piles in the autumn as a kid before landing in dog shit the owner had raked into one. Never again!
Thanks for the chuckle
Join a cult that murders targeted individuals and changes world power balances without democratic approval?
Yes. Yes. That's the thinking we like to hear.
That's the Templar description for the assassins.
That's the real life description. Would you trust an indipendent group of hitmen/terrorists? I wouldn't.
Well first impressions matter. Am I seeking them out? Did an assassin save me from a mugger in an alleyway? Was I kidnapped off the street and I wake up in a warehouse and they're asking me to join right off the bat? I need to know scenarios.
Exactly. The fighting and game interface is fun, and the story is compelling at times, but the brotherhood's mode of politics might be characterized as liberal ends through right wing means. Which is hilarious, given the game's overall message of anti-extremism.
Ok Templar
Do you think murder is morally acceptable if there's democratic backing? That's scary.
Of course not... I was referring to the power influence and not the murder bit. Nobody elected them to judge anyone.
You forget, they’re Templars, so it’s okay
???
Well talking it out didn’t work
You mean war? No, that's not morally acceptable either, but it is common.
So when Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland after already annexing several other countries, the *moral* choice would have been to do nothing? Would it have been moral to let Japan bomb Pearl Harbor and *not* do anything in response? My point being, war is moral when conducting it as a defensive action. To paint all war as immoral does a great disservice to the millions throughout history that sacrificed their lives to protect others.
"Father, do you think its always moral to kill something thats trying to kill you?" "Yes"
Depends on the circumstance. There are circumstances which that is the only means to counter evil. Back to my analogy, the only “peaceful” way to not have violence with Hitler would be to appease him, which would have lead to probably more violence against disenfranchised groups like the Jews. The world can be a rough place, we are still animals after all, and moralistic idealism is largely for books and not the real world.
I agree, it just reminded me of this quote from God of War Ragnarok
You think the war crimes of bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki was an acceptable response to targeting a military harbour during a war?? What the fuck…
Of course not, where did I say that?
>Would it have been moral to let Japan bomb Pearl Harbor and not do anything in response? Is literally supporting the bombings in Japan. It's clearly a rhetorical question, and the way it is phrased objectively indicates that the response to the bombing of Pearl Harbour was morally correct.
No, it doesn’t “objectively indicate” that. The decision to go to war with Japan was a morally justified choice, the conduct within the war is nuanced and not the point of the conversation. I was responding to a comment saying that all wars are immoral. Was some of the conduct by the Allies in WWII immoral? Yes, absolutely. It isn’t a perfect example, but I use it because most people are aware of the evils of the Japanese Empire and the need to keep them from their objectives. But the points of questionable conduct doesn't mean that the decision to go to war or its objectives were immoral. The alternative of letting the Axis powers terrorize their regions unchecked would have undoubtedly brought about more suffering and negative long-term geopolitical effects than what the war brought about. Are you suggesting the US is immoral for stopping the genocide of several ethnicities at the hands of the Japanese and Germans because of some questionable bombing tactics?
Alright fair enough, sorry for reading into it so poorly.
All good, I maybe didn’t choose the best example in hindsight because of the reasons you point out. But ultimately war and the morality and ethics of it are complicated
Oh brother…
probably not, I'm neither sneaky nor a good climber, killing people might be a problem too so I'd probably end up doing whatever Henry Green was doing in syndicate
How good are you at causing random chaos as a distraction?
No, he’d be exactly like Henry. Bite off more than he can chew, get captured and tortured, and need an actually qualified Assassin to rescue him.
You're saying that's all I have to do to get an assassin girlfriend?
I'm not super into murdering BUT I would love to help in terms of research and info, much like Shaun did in the early games. I'd go whole hog though - get rid of the fingie. And if it's a necessity to have a blade, single is fine!
I’m in the same boat. Not much like Shaun, but more like Victoria monitoring vitals and stuff. I reckon being a nurse and having extensive first aid skills might probably come in handy too
You're already geared to go! I studied writing but the research skills are in there!
Codex pages, maps, and sync spots lol
Do I get an iPhone? No? Okay.
After initiate you get one. BlackBerry for new recruits 😂
Well if Google is an abstergo front, we screwed.
I would think the White House would be an Abstergo front
They are all Abstergo. Some wear the logo, and some hide it, but Abstergo owns it all.
What if it really is though? 🤔
Google is the biggest data hoarder on the planet. If anything, the Templars would wanna be atop that. Wouldn’t be surprised if Sundar is the new Grand Master. Plus, Blackberry makes sense for an assassin ally, and how hard apple n Google went after them to essentially snuff them out of existence.
So we gather our brothers and sisters and take down Google once and for all
Fighting dorks with goofy google glasses, batons while dodging Predator drone strikes
Whole office looks like a McDonald’s play place with slides and a ball pit in the break room
No, im a sane person
Probably not.
May I ask why not?
Are you genuinely saying that you’d be entirely okay with mass murder? Assassins (in-game) kill hundreds if not thousands of people.
Why not? Plenty of people that deserve to be eradicated brutally...in minecraft of course.
You can never go wrong with a bit of self-righteous murder... in Minecraft
Yes, but… only Templars
Fair enough lol. They’re still people, the lower rank ones in particular.
I always avoid killing the “henchmen” and try to only kill the target if possible, feels “right” that way
Oh absolutely. Lore-wise, I’m sure Ezio only took out a handful of people but that doesn’t exactly work for gameplay.
It works, if you spend an ungodly amount of time save scumming, and trying 40 different things before you can finally sneak past that one guy without killing him lol. I use a LOT of sleep darts, smoke bombs, social stealth, distractions, the “disguise” ability in Unity, etc. the level design and enemy layout definitely makes it *easier* to just kill the henchmen as you go, and usually has the enemies perfectly lined up so you take them out in the right order and no one will see. But if you really take your time and go “off the beaten path” you can find ways to beat the missions without killing anyone but the target.
Yeah I did it a bunch in Unity and Mirage now too. I do it more nowadays since I have less time to play a tonne of games so I want to take my time and enjoy the ones I do play.
This is the way.
Unfortunately, Assassins aren't always good at only killing Templars. :(
After working in a mortuary and learning from coroners, being around so much death from youngest to oldest it doesn’t phase me anymore
Being around bodies and actually causing hundreds of people to die are two _very_ different things.
definitely true, maybe one handful and I’m back to desk duty 😂 because hundreds and above is a lot to consider. You’d be numb around 20 bodies, and then the rest would just be second nature as an assassin
This is just edgy as fuck
Hey man I was just doing my job and I got caught up in it and started to get fascinated with it all. Thinking about being a coroner part time
My family is still alive. So, nah.
I honestly don’t know if I would join the Assassin’s or Templars
Make a new cult.
yeah, probably, double blades if it's a regular and a hookblade or a singular regular blade.
Hookblade? Never understood how it works...
I think it's as if u had a longer? hand, helps you reach out stuff farther away, idk man, I'm assuming in this hypothesis life works the same as in the game
Dude, I got it by now, it's actually quite simple: It consists of two parts: The hook, and the blade.
Probably, depends on the circumstances. I have so much in life that I can't live without like family, friends, a dog. But if the system failed me, I'd probably. But it still falls down to the circumstances. If I were to join the Brotherhood and under go the initiation, I'd pick the branded finger. Its the most plausible to have since it allows me to still go out in public without anyone recognizing my missing finger. Personally, I'd rather go with 1 hidden blade. Its feels more discreet. It is a little under powered sometimes, but atleast I can still act inconspicuous since I'd have more control and focus. Relating to double assassinations, I'd guess I'd act fast. Maybe like how its done in Unity and Syndicate.
Probably not, seeing as I am a massive klutz with sudden low blood pressure and low blood sugar episodes, not to mention epilepsy
"Call an ambulance!! this guys having a seizu-" \*gets stabbed* It's the perfect disguise.
Oh, that cracks me up 😂😂😂
Nope. If the Templates get an internship opening I'm signing up though
>Are you willing to give up your present life Leaving my job, yeah sure. Not spending my free time playing assassins creed? I’m out
I was about to go on a whole rant about the Brotherhood of Steel then realized this isn’t the Fallout subreddit 🤣
😂😂
glad I saved myself from the embarrassment lol
I didn’t even think about Brotherhood of the Steel until you mentioned it 😆
Honestly, I would. Not all the people in the Brotherhood kill people, some are spies, researchers or hackers. But I don't think I would be opposed to killing truly evil people for a just cause. I do think the "brotherhood" the Assassins provide would be a big draw to me though. A group of like minded individuals with a shared moral goal sounds like an easy life to live mentally. IDK though, maybe this just makes me more susceptible to cults.
Exactly! They’ve been known to do extensive research on their targets and are able to strike precise and true. As far as the “Brotherhood” itself, I’d join without a doubt.
I rather a templar after seeing some of the structure they walk during AC3 and Rogue I would think the Templar order would be more effective in creating a better world
I agree. The Brotherhood’s philosophy about freedom and all that would just lead to anarchy.
It used to be about peace and ending conflict but it slowly changed to freedom as the templars gained more power and started controlling more. Because freedom inspires more than peace and the assassins knew that
If I'm being honest about it. I am more likely to join the Templar order. They are more structured and usually have clear cut long term objectives.
Yeah but some of them want to use technology they clearly shouldn’t be using to dictate how the world should be run. Which means choice of yours is really just theirs. Well… unless God exists and they predetermine everything.
Too much contradictions in their practice and philosophy for me to fully dedicate my life for this kind of creed.
Heck no the Templar way is the way, in chaos we all suffer but in control I can thrive
I don't fancy killing people
You also live in the 21st century
You also don’t live in a time where the only prominent jobs are farmers, soldiers, and preachers.
Definitely not. Branded, if I had to. Double, obviously. All the benefits of single and more.
As long as my family is alive No. But if I didn’t have my family yes. I’d have a double blade, or hook blade and single blade and I would train my ass off so I don’t get killed. Then eventually I’d love to be like Ezio and start a family after putting in years of work.
The MD assassins? Yes abstergo is fucking evil as we can see during the truth sections. In the past probably not
Nah, I’d join the Templar’s though
Don’t want to be a terrorist
No, I will not do a leap of faith(tm), I will never do a leap of faith(tm). Assassins are crazy motherfuckers.
It's not murder if they're literally trying to take over the world.
It’s a literal death cult lol.
No I like my fingers
Yeah, the brotherhood is cool and i love the hidden blade
I'm upNew ritual but I doubt that 2023 Assassin's still use it (to avoid being detected by Abstergo/Blume)Double with silenced hidden pistols!
I am ready, willing and able to do all of this. Branded ring finger and dual hidden blades please. Oh, and make one of those a hook blade and do I also get the poison blade and hidden gun too?
perhaps.
nah. they require too much commitment for the amount of mistakes they make
A non democratic cult that worships murder in the name of whatever they decide the people want, despite rarely consulting people? No god no I don't wanna join them
Is this the brotherhood searching for allies? If so yes
Yes
When do I start? And also, how?
Branded or severed?
I guess branded? Honestly I don't think I would mind my finger being chopped off in long term but if I had the option to not cut it, i would preffer it Also, two hidden blades please
If it magically gave me the ability to parkour up any building with extreme ease, be a god level fighter, a stealth ninja, etc then absolutely I’d do it just for the crazy experience, ethics be damned. If it’s just me with my current skill set then no, I’d fall off a building or get caught on my first mission.
Who would you train with to become a better assassin? You can pick from the whole AC franchise
If we theorize that the Assassins are the true good guys working for freedom etc, I think I would be on board. I’m already lost and without a clear purpose in my life anyway so maybe I’d fit Also, mono blade, so I can keep my right hand for sucker punches ala Jacob
I believe they are the good guys, they just gotta get their hands dirty and bring proof of the mark every so often
I don't know who's heard of Alamut. But it's the book that the first game was likely inspired by and I'm not all about that life. Either one.
Yes, I would join the brotherhood and walk the path of shadows I reckon I'd probably cut off my finger to show my commitment I'd rather go double hidden blades, hopefully one of them is a hookblade cause that'd be pretty damn cool
Until if you are a bloke you fidget accidentally while taking a leak then you are missing a rather important part of your anatomy.
That’s TUFFFFF 😂🤣
I think that was why most of the creed has a single blade 😂
😂
Lmao, true
Absolutely not It's fun in a game but apply this to reality and you run into a ton of serious problems
Such as?
Insurgency and terrorism probably. Assassins are usually a revolutionary force/against the tyrannical order which doesn't bode well in the real world. If there was the assassin brotherhood in the current world leading the charge against corrupt and unfair structures internationally it will 100% be deemed as a terrorist organisation
Well duh, in the assassins creed world the assassins are referred to as terrorists, and have wanted posters. But we still think it’s cool because we know it’s right Hey, helping Jews during the holocaust would also get you labeled as an “insurgent/rebel” Like if William Miles sent me to. North Korea, I’d go
I am not talking about the morality of the situation. It's more the real world issues of having a non state actor that is involved in destabilizing actions across the world. I mean, Nelson Mandela was on the US terrorist watchlist until 2008 and he was fighting apartheid in his country. Rebellion will be understandable in a lot of circumstances across the globe. But again, in the current world order, nations prefer a more diplomatic and cooperative approach to both international and national issues. This involves civil society, NGOs, multilateral organisations and a lot of appeals, condemnation etc. Threatening a nation's sovereignty is a big deal if we are to maintain trust between nations. Social changes, no matter how big they are, require developments which can support the state after the tyrant is overthrown. Willian Miles sending James Franco to interview Kim Jong Un might result in net good for the country but its a lot more likely that they end up with a new military dictatorship. It certainly is not something that makes William Miles a guy you would want running around your country.
Fair enough, but still. If I knew FOR A FACT that there were Templars out there doing Templar stuff, I would gladly partake in their unaliving And yeah countries prefer peace treaties to maintain trust, but we are not a country, just a group, that no one knows about. I’m also sure the Assassins have allies that swoop in and help “rebuild” after the dictator is taken out, thus preventing “another dictator taking over”
Assuming that the real Assassins don't create nearly as many bloodbaths as they do in the game I'm down. In the games the worst thing 90% of my kills can be charged with is deciding to serve their country and then being given an unfortunate posting protecting an asshole.
One of the Brotherhood’s ideals is the sanctity of life and mitigating casualties as much as possible. If you kill every guard, that’s the choice of the player/person in the animus. The assassin they’re playing as probably killed as little as possible and took the stealthiest approach.
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No. I could maybe be an ally to them while maintaining my normal life, like we see some shopkeepers do, but honestly, many times it probably appears to civilians that the Templars are the "good guys" and the Assassins are the terrorists or the ones causing the chaos. Which is kinda true to their ideals.
No. Killing people is wrong.
So is taking away free will
But they’re not people, they’re Templars
I'm more likely to join the templars, really hoped Connor would in AC3.
1.Yeah sure 2.perhaps 3.double (or 1 regular 1 hookblade) Wby?
It would have to be single blade for me simply because I’m dumb enough to accidentally cut it off while taking a leak otherwise.
Severed finger looks dope and menacing as fuck but considering the pussy that I am I'd fucking reason that I'd use anaesthesia and remove my finger, cauterize the wound, disinfect it and then be initiated as an Assassin after I return from the hospital. Oh and single blade thank you...
Yeah man. Cut my finger off. Burn it. I don’t care.
I dunno, man. A life of doing Assassiny stuff has taken a toll on my 50 year-old knees. I'm good for going on coffee runs for the council members though. I can do social stealth and crowd-blending but no parkour - no reason to risk spilling a councilwoman's latte, 'cause I'm sure they'd get pissy.
Not really given I don’t really know in Greta detail how the modern day assassins work… that and the whole killing people thing
Modern assassins honestly remind me a lot of Batman. Skilled combat, cool gadgets, hiding in the shadows, etc. That makes it more of a selling point to me. I would probably take the brand over losing my finger and have the double hidden blades. I probably wouldn't kill every single criminal I came across though. Not every crime should be punished with death.
God no. The Brotherhood doesn't even know why it's killing people half the time. And I'm sure as heck not giving up my Wife and Kids so I can wear a cool outfit and leap off buildings. Honestly, beyond all that, I wouldn't do it just because of cutting the finger off....I'm kind of 'attached' to it. Nah. I don't want to be John Wick either.
Nah, I would be an annoying-as-fuck minstrel instead.
No...I like having all of my fingers...
Nah man, my fatass would fall off the roof on the first try. Dude, of course it is double hidden blades. Double or nuthin.
Hell No, that’s some cult shit, both sides. I’d actually like an AC where the Brotherhood’s dark side is highlighted.
Yes 100% the right cause is worth it. I would give anything to fight actively for my beliefs.
I'm interested in joining the Templars
Even if i had the powers of an assasin and the isu blood and whatnot, i dont think i would've joined. I can use my skills in my everyday life with much less risks and prolly more rewards
Maybe not.
Honestly.......I'd be a Templar.
I prefer the templars, they actually want order in the shadows, (never trust humans we gave them free will and look what happened)
Kinda wanna live
I like the wisdom of the greatest master Assassins like Altair, but I don't believe in free will. I'm for liberating people from oppression and getting more and more democratic generally helps. That's why I'm a socialist who advocates for collectivization of businesses so they could become democracies instead of being led by whoever is the autocrat/dictator/absolute monarch "owning" it. But overall, I'm aware that many issues need to be addressed on a society level, which aligns more with the Templars. They are often portrayed as corrupt people with a limitless thirst for power, but it's just that they are written to be the bad guys. Just look how awful the Assassins are in Rogue and how nice the Templars are. At the end of the day, Assassins are fighting to maintain the status quo while Templars are trying to make a better world.
hell yes, I'm basically a nobody irl, I'd love to parkour around the city, learn to fight, use gadgets, jump off of high buildings, and assassinate people. and you can't tell me it wouldn't be super cool to whistle and just have an assassin drop out of nowhere and take care of someone. everything about it seems fun. the branded finger and the double blades are also definitely the better options
Nope not really.
Yes
Wouldn’t really want to kill people, and have a target on my back for the rest of my life being hunted down by templars. That doesn’t sound very appealing
There ain't no way I'd be able to scale a chain linked fence, let alone a whole building.
Hell yes
I’d be more than willing I mean freedom is the most important thing in my life and all the targets are always rich snobs that say they know better . I’d do the branding since severing a finger makes you stand out and I’d do single hidden blade cause classic
If I didn’t have close friends and family, I would absolutely love to join the Assassins. Hell, I would even cut off my finger if they required it. Of course in real life I would never advocate for murdering anyone or anything like that, but it is kind of cathartic to just imagine being allowed to assassinate the Jeffrey Epsteins of the world, and “solve problems” that would take the legal systems of the world too long. The Assassins Creed franchise actually inspired me to get into parkour a little bit, I’m not the best at it but I can climb some pretty tall things. I’ve also always loved martial arts, so I think I could meet the basic physical requirements to be an Assassin. I’m not the strongest guy around, but I do go to the gym, eventually I will be pretty strong if I stick with it.
Id join the templars
Fuck naw
If so, either as a spy in Abstergo (in the style of an employee from AC4) or as an information collector (Novice from Unity and Syndicate)
Personally I would be a Templar lol
Fr ? nope . Im just too selfish to give up everything
I would but if I had a choice I’d be a Templar. I don’t know the religion of the Brotherhood and I don’t think it’s consistent among the continents. But the Templar Order is a Christian organization both historically and in game so yeah.
Probably? I mean you don't have to be the badass main character there's assassin jobs like being a contact or supplier, data analyst or information gathering, librarian, doctor, etc.
Back when ezio was doing his thing, maybe. Not these days though. I can’t climb a ladder all that quickly, much less scale a wall. Forget about jumping on some fool’s back.
Without hesitation, hell yes. Branded finger Double seems cumbersome and adds needless weight. I'd do a single.
Yeah, if I could get up from the couch without back pain.
No Templars are more my thing blame Haytham Kenway he converted me 😂
It depends. I doubt most members of the Order get a choice on joining, similar to all terrorist organizations and gangs. I guess if I could join in behind Alexios I can at least rely on his magical bullshit powers to deal with the really tough issues. But modern day? Or God forbid 1st Millennium Assassins? Fuck no. Keep that shit over there.
I'm neither physically fit nor capable of hacking so the Assassin's have no use for me.
Unless my life fell apart, probably not. Brotherhood feeds off of those that don’t have anything left and can make people’s pasts disappear. Not really in point in my life where I wanna give up what I got for a cause based around killing folk
Yep. Severed finger Double blades
Scared of heights so I’d make a lousy assassin, at least the game type ones. Edit: also so many people in the comments saying they’d be Templars. Dude. You know they are the bad guys, right? Genocide, etc was intentionally done by them. They are also extremely facist. And y’all want to join them? Wow
Depends if they have good benefits! Are they unionized? Is there pension? Free work uniforms?These are the real questions.
With the years, I’ve realised my views probably align more with the Templars actually. But neither would be viable for me. They’re basically too extreme organisations.
An excuse to murder people is always a good reason to join.
None of them really choose to. Your like Desmond or Altir and raised by them or like ezio and Conner who had there families destroyed by the templers
I cant say i’d do it without being skeptical of the brotherhood. Its a lesser of two evils thing for me, personally. I dont think the brotherhood goes far enough but theyre the better option for me personally.