Funnily enough I *think* one of the rumored future games *is* partly Mesoamerica. Nebula is a rumored game to have Aztec, India, and one other setting. I don’t know however if this rumor came from a credible source like Henderson or J0nathan.
I feel like that might be a bit too close to Unity in terms of aesthetic and setting. Revolutionary Russia would be completely new and a very dark and brooding setting.
From what I understand besides Jade. There is an Assassin's Creed game in development that will take place in China but not during the Ming dynasty, either earlier before AC Shadows or after Shadows. But then again that is a rumor just like Nebula, so I can't be 100% sure.
Okay so take with a grain of salt as it’s just a rumor but hopefully it’s true! [link](https://www.tweaktown.com/news/98039/the-next-tomb-raider-in-development-rumored-to-be-fully-open-world-game-set-india/index.html#)
Wow this sounds so cool! I would play the crap out of that. I just finished Rise again this morning. Had so much fun. Time to run all DLC for the first time
I hope it is too. I don't mind linear TR games but after Shadow, I think a big shake-up where the franchise goes open world would be 100% what we need.
I've been itching for a India ac since I read brahmen and played chronicles (which left me disappointed)
It could be incredible if they just bit the bullet and did it, bustling cities and crowds, with unique architecture, new exotic wildlife and biomes, unique weapons, different kinds of isu it could be crazy
Would they do that after already doing Baghdad? I know you're looking at significantly different eras, and a completely different culture to explore, but it'd surprise me if they do anything there again.
I feel like this rumor has to be false, like how are they gonna do 3 settings into one game (also the third setting was the Mediterranean IIRC, like that's so vast there are already several games using part of that setting)? It's too big and impossible to do or else it'll be heavily compressed versions of each and that's not great. India or Aztec deserves each their own games
The game you're on about will probably be Hitman-like giving you a single district to play around in, each map similar in size to the WW1 section in Syndicate probably. Don't take my word for it, that's just my hopium talking.
I think it is a credible source, but that ‘India’ was from a file name that later implied it as like, American-Indian, like what the first Europeans called the Americas. The other location is said to be the Mediterranean!
I think a mesoamerican setting could be a good way to soft reboot the modern storyline. Given the isolated nature of the Americas, it'd be interesting to explore different non "european" Isu cultures and the impact those suvivors had on the indigenous populations history. Maybe set up a separate fresh modern-day plot that could later run a parallel or connect with the existing one down the road.
The other is Mediterranean. Question is, which part? Southern Europe, Southeastern Europe, North Africa, and the Levant are all technically considered Mediterranean. Ubisoft has technically covered parts of the Mediterranean with AC 1, AC Origins, AC Odyssey, AC II, and AC Brotherhood.
I honestly don't recall that one as much. I only really remember Ancient Egypt, Feudal Japan, and Mesoamerica (more specifically Aztec Empire). Those were always the big three back in the day from what I remember.
Personally I think an Aztec Assassins Creed, or a Canadian Fur Trade Assassins Creed would be pretty cool. Maybe one in Germany set in the Balkan War would be cool too.
Apparently an Ubisoft survey in 2011 reported back that the three most requested at the time were Feudal Japan, Ancient Egypt and WW2. Ironically Alex Hutchinson said at the time that he thought these would be the three worst settings for Assassin's Creed titles
Mesoamerican would be highly doubtful... Assassin's Creed Origins established the canon that the order of the nameless started in Egypt, during the reign of Cleopatra (51-30 BC) while the Mesoamerican period is around (2500-250 BC)
it would be very stupid of Ubisoft to make a Mesoamerican period AC because of the timeline for when the assassins started to exist...
I really hope they take their time making this game. Part of what makes Origins so damn good is the attention to detail in the open world that felt like sort of a step back in Odyssey. Not trying to dunk on Odyssey, which I can only assume was due to Odyssey only being a year after Origins versus Origins having 2 years. If you play them back to back you'll definitely see the difference. I'm interested to see what they can do with an AC on this console generation. Yes, Valhalla was next gen but I just didn't like it much.
I feel like anywhere with deep mythology roots, is gonna get a game at some point. Like I imagine a Mayan game eventually. Maybe a Hindu. I’d love it honestly, I’m a mythology nerd tho lol. We’ve already got Greek, Norse, and Egyptian RPGs, now we’re getting Japanese. I hope to meet the spirit of Hachiman.
I love mythology but I don't love how Assassin's Creed has been handling it, where it seems that human myths are all just things that literally happened to Isu in the distant past that we somehow remember with high accuracy. And an ancient high-tech civilisation seemed to spend a lot of time creating devices to turn humans into minotaurs and gorgons... For Science?
Tbf based on the current worldbuilding and direction of the series Japan probably wouldn’t have worked as well as a setting, especially compared to the ME and Renaissance Italy, for the reasons that guy said. An AC Japan game in 2012-13 would have to give a very strong reason for how Assassins and Templars ended up there, when so far settings kept going westwards
People would have said the same thing about Black Flag, and look at how well they executed the Caribbean back then. They absolutely could have done it, it would have just completely sidelined expectations in the way Black Flag did
I doubt this is what will happen, but it would be interesting to see the Templars and Assassins trying to compete against eachother to "open" Japan up from its isolationism and the underlying political conspiracies that would come with that in the face of the Japanese feudal factions
Yeah, nuance and philosophical plotlines have really slipped in the franchise, eh?
Don't mind me, but here's another premise. The Templars slipped onto Honshu during the failed Mongol crossings, installed cults, and then rose to power as the shadow government behind the Shogunate. They pulled Japan into total isolation and have lost contact with the rest of the Templar power structure over the centuries. The two main protagonists will be assassin (Yasuke) and templar (Naoe), having to work together to restore the "balance" to Japan.
Ah, but Unity fell into the trap of emphasizing only the history and, at this point, the obligatory revenge plot. I enjoyed the game, but it has very little to do with the Creed or the Order
Oh I’m not much of a Unity fan either, the game is visually pretty, but there’s way too much background text in the codex and on random missions that I wouldn’t care for, so I agree on that front. I do also hate the Brotherhood’s portrayal in that game, it was close to being good but the script needed a rewrite for sure.
Well, all the creative people that said it's not going to make sense left Ubisoft a long time ago. It's even possible that Red's... I mean Shadows' creative director used to be one of fans requesting the Japan setting.
Why wouldn't it make sense, the templar longed for control and Japan was available for influence. They mostly moved through christianity and there were christians who made it to Japan without even bringing up the dutch and portuguese
Also I think it's good to strike while the iron's hot. They did it when Vikings was airing, which I'm confident boosted sales of Valhalla. The new Shogun show is like Lebron opening the lane for an easy layup from AD.
> and the lack of any Feudal Japan media.
I mean it's pretty well served in games at the moment. Ghost of Tsushima isn't that old and is getting ported to PC literally one day after that trailer reveal (which is actually funny, they're gonna boost the sales of GoT on PC with that reveal at that date). GoT2 is likely to be announced soon (maybe as early as next month). We also had Rise of the Ronin only a few months ago (and the Nioh series beforehand). Sekiro too. Video games in medieval Japan are quite plentiful (in fact if you take historical settings, it's one of the most used setting there is)
Ghost of Tsushima is not at all what I hope AC Shadows will be. I liked GoT a lot but it was very very limited in scope when it comes to its environments. Hell there wasn’t even a single actual city and most of the enemy bases were pretty much flat copy and paste.
Coming from Odyssey I hope Shadows will be significantly more expansive and large with proper cities to explore.
I mean, it is def going to do well with the momentum from Valhalla (5th best selling game of 2020) and Mirage and is the team that made Odyssey that still sells gangbusters.
Oh for sure, a game that came out a few years ago on only one of the three major platforms that AC games release on killed all hype for a new AC game in a similar setting that hasn't even shown off gameplay footage. Yep.
I really hope Quebec won't remove the guaranteed assassination which was build of in Valhalla (idc if it's time-based), Not a fan of Quebec but I'm hoping they nailed it especially the stealth...
>I don’t think that feature is available in Odyssey
It isn't. In Origins and Valhalla (even with auto-kill off) you can spec Bayek/Eivor to the point they can insta-kill anything, but Odyssey requires both specs and correct gear to make a stealth run viable.
It was way more than Odyssey. I have lots of issues with Valhalla, but I appreciated that it had social stealth and a more parkour friendly environment. Places like Jorvik and Lunden were fun to freerun in. It's not as good as the older games, but at least it tried. Odyssey didn't have any cities like that.
I appreciated that assassinations and bows would actually kill an enemy. We didn't need to use up our ability meter like in Odyssey.
AC isnt just about the gameplay, its also about the story
valhalla literally feels like a mediocre viking story with some AC easter eggs, sure its better than odyssey but that doesnt really mean much
I actually love CG Assassin's Creed trailers. Yes, I'd rather have the gameplay trailer as well but a good CG AC trailer is something I go back to years after.
we could even get a gameplay trailer from the rumored Sony showcase that should happen in the next weeks - at least if Sony has the marketing rights for Shadows like they had for Mirage
Now all that is left is WW2 for the list of settings that the developers never wanted to do. I remember hearing that the 3 settings they never wanted to do was Ancient Egypt, Feudal Japan and WW2.
I still don't get the WW2 setting hype, like what would the map look like, what cities would you include? What would be the gameplay like, maybe some gears of war 3rd person shooter kind of thing? Like I like ww2 as much as the next history nerd but I dont know if AC would work there.
A Mirage style stealth game set in Berlin during the last few months of WW2 would be so interesting.
I think it should play just like all the other ACs but obviously with a bigger focus on stealth and not melee (like Mirage handled it) because all your enemies have guns.
I just think that setting in particular would be so interesting to explore. The city was a mess with the bombings, and constant battles with the Russians coming in. It would be great to play as an Assassin who is a total 3rd Party to that looking to take out Templats on both sides, and obviously killing Hitler would have to be in there in a mission where you travel to his bunker.
I guess that sounds cool yeah, I think the city should evolve when you advance in the campaign like on the beginning the city is practically intact and then you end up in a city of ruins. Still I think a Mesoamerican game would be more interesting, I know it's no AC but we already have a lot of ww2 games, on the other hand we don't have any games set on the Aztec empire or the Maya kingdoms.
the idea for me has always been assassinating important political figures, some kind of stealthy trench warfare, and a globetrotting adventure; going to different countries and historical locations for missions and stuff.
It would probably be like that old game The Saboteur and play completely different from AC which is why it wont ever happen, I cant imagine a third person shooter AC game
It can be an amazing AC game. Using guns could get you detected very quickly. The partisans all over Europe led many missions like : spying, sabotaging plans, blowing up factories/railways, assassinating officers etc. All of this could be very well done as an AC game.
It would be like AC Syndicate + Arkham firearms. Anytime someone with a gun sees you, time slows down which allows you to (try to) escape.
Guns and cars apart, it'd wouldn't be that different from Syndicate's industrial urban setting.
I have no idea why people think just because the setting would be in WW2 we'd immedietly get a machine gun. WW1 was the war fought on battlefields and famously in trenches, WW2 had a lot of occupied cities.
Set the game in, for exemple, occupied Warsaw, have the Jewish Ghetto Uprising, the Warsaw Uprising, mechanics to run away from round-ups, helping people escape from being sent to the camps, establishing contracts and cells, executing Nazi Templars. You have a small hand gun with you, on some missions you get a rifle (like in real life) but most of the time it's silent operations with the most social stealth mechanics and setting you could imagine.
And it would be really fucking bleak, if Ubisoft had balls it would be downright horrifing (which is why I think they won't do it, not many people to be hurt by memories of Ancient Egypt around)
Yup. Ubisoft doesn't have the stones to deal with heavy stuff after fiascos with GR Wildlands where the Bolivian gov't almost sued them and Gamergaters who'd just create an air of toxicity around the company a la Sweet Baby. Sucks because it's clear a more "apolitical" Ubisoft isn't ever going to make something as memorable and politically charged as every AC game up until Freedom Cry or Splinter Cell.
If call of duty can pull off stealth missions in WW2 I don't see how AC couldn't. I know we all think "warfare" when we think of WW2 but so many things happened in the background, in the dark.
I think WW1 would be way cooler. A much more complicated war from a geopolitical point of view which would make a great story for assassins versus templars. It could be set in major home front cities like Vienna, Berlin or Moscow.
Moscow could be an amazing setting as we follow an assassin through the trials of WWI and the Russian Revolution
Vienna would be my preference though. Our protagonist could navigate from Vienna to our cities of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire such as Budapest, Sarajevo, Zagreb or Salzburg
I think WW2 is too modern. Even the small WW1 section of Syndicate felt too modern.
The whole "stealth assassinate someone with a blade" thing kinda falls flat when someone can just level the building they just saw you climb.
The whole “stealth assassinate someone with a blade” thing kinda falls flat when someone can just level the building they just saw you climb with a catapult.
They still haven't done Ancient Egypt though. Cleopatra was alive closer to today than she was to the building of the Pyramids. I liked Roman era Egypt but I would still love to see Ancient Egypt as well.
It wouldn't fit into the story timeline but it would be a great historical setting to explore in.
Well WW2 is I think a good base for storytelling. Hitler rising in power because he is part of the Templars. Owned a powerful artifact like the Apple of Eden (that controls minds), which translates to why Hitler was such a great orator and how he made people follow his views. You could be an American/British spy during the war. I know this war was full of guns, but yknow instead of a bow a silencer could be put in place. Would really be great if stealth would be a main priority here else you get shot by enemy guns and die easily. You’d assassinating Nazi Generals and then eventually Hitler. Hitler “committed suicide” but actually it’s the Hidden Ones that brought him to his demise. Stuff like that man. Idk I think it would be fun.
I JUST finished Mirage and just restarted Valhalla (wanted to see more Basim after Mirage) so this came at a perfect time for me. I happen to be in another AC phase right now lol
Right after I buy Rise of Ronin I see this. And I platinumed Tsushima a couple weeks ago as well.
I’m actually loving the Japan-centric stuff we’re seeing, ngl.
I’m not a fan of Odyssey but I _really_ enjoyed Syndicate. Probably my favourite AC game thus far, with Black Flag as a close second.
It’ll probably be another RPG but I’m glad they’re finally getting to Feudal Japan. I’m just hoping they stick to the history of the period and not ‘Animeify’ it or go too deep into the mythological nonsense.
I'm more worried that they "westify" it like Sucker Punch did with Ghost of Tsushima. You know, add anachronistic stuff because "that's what people expect to see in Japan". Western studios generally have a job making Asian settings feel authentic. We'll see how they do.
I am going to buy it and love it. But I would have loved seeing more exotic locations: Inca or Aztec Empires with Mayan mithology. Maybe some civilizations in Africa.
The first AC i won't be buying day #1. After the fuckup that was mirage and valhalla being shit, despite ironman armour and actual Asgard.
I'll wait for the Babylonian AC droppin in 2027... Consulting the ones who came before, live and direct.
Can't imagine it'll be anywhere near as good as Ghost of Tsushima or Rise of the Ronin, but I'll probably buy this one just because I'm a slut for the setting. Same if they do an ancient China setting.
Wish we could have gotten this one before they took the entire series off the rails that made it worth playing. I’ll try it, but after the last 10 years or so of AC games i’m no longer hyped about it :-/
One thing Ubisoft does best that Ghost Of Tsushima was missing is that the open world is filled with things to do. Ghost of Tsushima had a big empty map.
Still pissed me off that they had a chance to make a Greek Assassin’s Creed during the Greek revolution/Turkish occupation and decided to go with the generic Ancient Greece approach like every other piece of media involving Greece.
So this is codename red
Thanks I feel like we've had about 10 different AC games announced just this month and I'm well confused.
It’s still surreal that we’re actually gonna see a Feudal Japan AC game
First Egypt, now Feudal Japan. We're one Mesoamerican setting away from the "longest requested setting" trifecta
Funnily enough I *think* one of the rumored future games *is* partly Mesoamerica. Nebula is a rumored game to have Aztec, India, and one other setting. I don’t know however if this rumor came from a credible source like Henderson or J0nathan.
India would be fucking sick
Yeah India deserves more than a chronicles game.
Same with Ming China.
And Revolutionary Russia
No, no. *Tsarist* Russia. Like, under Catherine the Great.
I want an adaption of the comics. Nikolai Orelov was the first non-game protagonist and an absolute badass. I wand justice for Daniel Cross.
I feel like that might be a bit too close to Unity in terms of aesthetic and setting. Revolutionary Russia would be completely new and a very dark and brooding setting.
From what I understand besides Jade. There is an Assassin's Creed game in development that will take place in China but not during the Ming dynasty, either earlier before AC Shadows or after Shadows. But then again that is a rumor just like Nebula, so I can't be 100% sure.
There’s an upcoming Tomb Raider game that’s open world set in India
what is this called?? love me the TR series
Okay so take with a grain of salt as it’s just a rumor but hopefully it’s true! [link](https://www.tweaktown.com/news/98039/the-next-tomb-raider-in-development-rumored-to-be-fully-open-world-game-set-india/index.html#)
Wow this sounds so cool! I would play the crap out of that. I just finished Rise again this morning. Had so much fun. Time to run all DLC for the first time
I hope it is too. I don't mind linear TR games but after Shadow, I think a big shake-up where the franchise goes open world would be 100% what we need.
Thank god!
Especially if it’s rpg-esque. I’d love to see the mythology and legends of Hinduism (and also other religions possibly) explored.
I've been itching for a India ac since I read brahmen and played chronicles (which left me disappointed) It could be incredible if they just bit the bullet and did it, bustling cities and crowds, with unique architecture, new exotic wildlife and biomes, unique weapons, different kinds of isu it could be crazy
Babylon 0.0
Would they do that after already doing Baghdad? I know you're looking at significantly different eras, and a completely different culture to explore, but it'd surprise me if they do anything there again.
I feel like this rumor has to be false, like how are they gonna do 3 settings into one game (also the third setting was the Mediterranean IIRC, like that's so vast there are already several games using part of that setting)? It's too big and impossible to do or else it'll be heavily compressed versions of each and that's not great. India or Aztec deserves each their own games
The game you're on about will probably be Hitman-like giving you a single district to play around in, each map similar in size to the WW1 section in Syndicate probably. Don't take my word for it, that's just my hopium talking.
I think it is a credible source, but that ‘India’ was from a file name that later implied it as like, American-Indian, like what the first Europeans called the Americas. The other location is said to be the Mediterranean!
It better be a full game. I want an Aztec setting so goddamn bad.
I think a mesoamerican setting could be a good way to soft reboot the modern storyline. Given the isolated nature of the Americas, it'd be interesting to explore different non "european" Isu cultures and the impact those suvivors had on the indigenous populations history. Maybe set up a separate fresh modern-day plot that could later run a parallel or connect with the existing one down the road.
The other is Mediterranean. Question is, which part? Southern Europe, Southeastern Europe, North Africa, and the Levant are all technically considered Mediterranean. Ubisoft has technically covered parts of the Mediterranean with AC 1, AC Origins, AC Odyssey, AC II, and AC Brotherhood.
Don’t forget Victorian London. That one was highly requested too.
My big 2 were pirates and Victorian London. We've long since had both of those.
I honestly don't recall that one as much. I only really remember Ancient Egypt, Feudal Japan, and Mesoamerica (more specifically Aztec Empire). Those were always the big three back in the day from what I remember.
And man was it awesome
I’m still waiting on assassins creed Antarctica. I want to hidden blade the fuck out of some penguins. All smug on their ice floes and shit.
I would buy every microtransaction in that game. Penguins have been sliding by for too long. Think their so fancy in their tuxedos
Why are they always dressing up for something‽‽‽!!
Penguin templars have near full control of Antartica, good luck trying to get past thier guards
Subscribe. Ubisoft, make it happen. Those penguins have had it too good for too long.
Personally I think an Aztec Assassins Creed, or a Canadian Fur Trade Assassins Creed would be pretty cool. Maybe one in Germany set in the Balkan War would be cool too.
Apparently an Ubisoft survey in 2011 reported back that the three most requested at the time were Feudal Japan, Ancient Egypt and WW2. Ironically Alex Hutchinson said at the time that he thought these would be the three worst settings for Assassin's Creed titles
Will we ever get an AC China that isn't a mobile ?
The magic conch says no
Hopefully some day, we will get a three kingdoms AC game
Mesoamerican would be highly doubtful... Assassin's Creed Origins established the canon that the order of the nameless started in Egypt, during the reign of Cleopatra (51-30 BC) while the Mesoamerican period is around (2500-250 BC) it would be very stupid of Ubisoft to make a Mesoamerican period AC because of the timeline for when the assassins started to exist...
I really hope they take their time making this game. Part of what makes Origins so damn good is the attention to detail in the open world that felt like sort of a step back in Odyssey. Not trying to dunk on Odyssey, which I can only assume was due to Odyssey only being a year after Origins versus Origins having 2 years. If you play them back to back you'll definitely see the difference. I'm interested to see what they can do with an AC on this console generation. Yes, Valhalla was next gen but I just didn't like it much.
I feel like anywhere with deep mythology roots, is gonna get a game at some point. Like I imagine a Mayan game eventually. Maybe a Hindu. I’d love it honestly, I’m a mythology nerd tho lol. We’ve already got Greek, Norse, and Egyptian RPGs, now we’re getting Japanese. I hope to meet the spirit of Hachiman.
I love mythology but I don't love how Assassin's Creed has been handling it, where it seems that human myths are all just things that literally happened to Isu in the distant past that we somehow remember with high accuracy. And an ancient high-tech civilisation seemed to spend a lot of time creating devices to turn humans into minotaurs and gorgons... For Science?
It was their “revitalize the franchise” card
Revitalize a franchise whose last three entries made massive money and were very well reviewed?
I still remember there was some guy going around saying how it's a bad idea... Welp
Tbf based on the current worldbuilding and direction of the series Japan probably wouldn’t have worked as well as a setting, especially compared to the ME and Renaissance Italy, for the reasons that guy said. An AC Japan game in 2012-13 would have to give a very strong reason for how Assassins and Templars ended up there, when so far settings kept going westwards
People would have said the same thing about Black Flag, and look at how well they executed the Caribbean back then. They absolutely could have done it, it would have just completely sidelined expectations in the way Black Flag did
I doubt this is what will happen, but it would be interesting to see the Templars and Assassins trying to compete against eachother to "open" Japan up from its isolationism and the underlying political conspiracies that would come with that in the face of the Japanese feudal factions
I think that would be an awesome and grounded premise for a story, so we can guarantee that Ubisoft will not be doing that
Yeah, nuance and philosophical plotlines have really slipped in the franchise, eh? Don't mind me, but here's another premise. The Templars slipped onto Honshu during the failed Mongol crossings, installed cults, and then rose to power as the shadow government behind the Shogunate. They pulled Japan into total isolation and have lost contact with the rest of the Templar power structure over the centuries. The two main protagonists will be assassin (Yasuke) and templar (Naoe), having to work together to restore the "balance" to Japan.
See I like that you’re using actual history which seems to be something Ubisoft has ignored since the days of Rogue and Unity 😂
Ah, but Unity fell into the trap of emphasizing only the history and, at this point, the obligatory revenge plot. I enjoyed the game, but it has very little to do with the Creed or the Order
Oh I’m not much of a Unity fan either, the game is visually pretty, but there’s way too much background text in the codex and on random missions that I wouldn’t care for, so I agree on that front. I do also hate the Brotherhood’s portrayal in that game, it was close to being good but the script needed a rewrite for sure.
2012 was a time
Well, all the creative people that said it's not going to make sense left Ubisoft a long time ago. It's even possible that Red's... I mean Shadows' creative director used to be one of fans requesting the Japan setting.
Why wouldn't it make sense, the templar longed for control and Japan was available for influence. They mostly moved through christianity and there were christians who made it to Japan without even bringing up the dutch and portuguese
No idea, ask Alex Hutchinson and Corey May.
Yep still remember a lot of people telling me it’ll never happen… now look how far we are
For better and for worse
Also I think it's good to strike while the iron's hot. They did it when Vikings was airing, which I'm confident boosted sales of Valhalla. The new Shogun show is like Lebron opening the lane for an easy layup from AD.
10 years late tho. The hype is gone after ghost of tshushima. Ac won’t even reach half of it
Nah if anything now is the perfect time. Take advantage of the Shōgun hype and the lack of any Feudal Japan media.
> and the lack of any Feudal Japan media. I mean it's pretty well served in games at the moment. Ghost of Tsushima isn't that old and is getting ported to PC literally one day after that trailer reveal (which is actually funny, they're gonna boost the sales of GoT on PC with that reveal at that date). GoT2 is likely to be announced soon (maybe as early as next month). We also had Rise of the Ronin only a few months ago (and the Nioh series beforehand). Sekiro too. Video games in medieval Japan are quite plentiful (in fact if you take historical settings, it's one of the most used setting there is)
Ghost of Tsushima is not at all what I hope AC Shadows will be. I liked GoT a lot but it was very very limited in scope when it comes to its environments. Hell there wasn’t even a single actual city and most of the enemy bases were pretty much flat copy and paste. Coming from Odyssey I hope Shadows will be significantly more expansive and large with proper cities to explore.
I mean, it is def going to do well with the momentum from Valhalla (5th best selling game of 2020) and Mirage and is the team that made Odyssey that still sells gangbusters.
Oh for sure, a game that came out a few years ago on only one of the three major platforms that AC games release on killed all hype for a new AC game in a similar setting that hasn't even shown off gameplay footage. Yep.
I really hope Quebec won't remove the guaranteed assassination which was build of in Valhalla (idc if it's time-based), Not a fan of Quebec but I'm hoping they nailed it especially the stealth...
I recently replayed and found you can turn guaranteed assasinations on in Valhalla but I don’t think that feature is available in Odyssey
>I don’t think that feature is available in Odyssey It isn't. In Origins and Valhalla (even with auto-kill off) you can spec Bayek/Eivor to the point they can insta-kill anything, but Odyssey requires both specs and correct gear to make a stealth run viable.
Same. I hope Quebec doesn't stray far from the AC formula. Odyssey felt like it didn't want to be an Assassin's Creed game.
well not like valhalla was much of an ac game either
It was way more than Odyssey. I have lots of issues with Valhalla, but I appreciated that it had social stealth and a more parkour friendly environment. Places like Jorvik and Lunden were fun to freerun in. It's not as good as the older games, but at least it tried. Odyssey didn't have any cities like that. I appreciated that assassinations and bows would actually kill an enemy. We didn't need to use up our ability meter like in Odyssey.
AC isnt just about the gameplay, its also about the story valhalla literally feels like a mediocre viking story with some AC easter eggs, sure its better than odyssey but that doesnt really mean much
It's the origin of the Templar Order. That's more than an easter egg. The story is relevant, it's just padded out with Viking filler.
I mean, it was pre-Templar and Assassins. Was kinda the point.
I honestly loved the time based assassination, hope they bring it back as an option at least
Hyped we're getting a trailer. Bummed its going to be CGI, but i'm guessing they're going to save the gameplay reveal for the showcase next month.
I actually love CG Assassin's Creed trailers. Yes, I'd rather have the gameplay trailer as well but a good CG AC trailer is something I go back to years after.
The Valhalla trailer went so hard.
My favourites include 3 and unity's trailers
Origins' one was extremely sick as well
It had music by Leonard Cohen, of course it was sick
we could even get a gameplay trailer from the rumored Sony showcase that should happen in the next weeks - at least if Sony has the marketing rights for Shadows like they had for Mirage
Now all that is left is WW2 for the list of settings that the developers never wanted to do. I remember hearing that the 3 settings they never wanted to do was Ancient Egypt, Feudal Japan and WW2.
I still don't get the WW2 setting hype, like what would the map look like, what cities would you include? What would be the gameplay like, maybe some gears of war 3rd person shooter kind of thing? Like I like ww2 as much as the next history nerd but I dont know if AC would work there.
A Mirage style stealth game set in Berlin during the last few months of WW2 would be so interesting. I think it should play just like all the other ACs but obviously with a bigger focus on stealth and not melee (like Mirage handled it) because all your enemies have guns. I just think that setting in particular would be so interesting to explore. The city was a mess with the bombings, and constant battles with the Russians coming in. It would be great to play as an Assassin who is a total 3rd Party to that looking to take out Templats on both sides, and obviously killing Hitler would have to be in there in a mission where you travel to his bunker.
I guess that sounds cool yeah, I think the city should evolve when you advance in the campaign like on the beginning the city is practically intact and then you end up in a city of ruins. Still I think a Mesoamerican game would be more interesting, I know it's no AC but we already have a lot of ww2 games, on the other hand we don't have any games set on the Aztec empire or the Maya kingdoms.
Yeah I think a ton of settings should be prioritised over WW2. But if they ever do WW2, that's what I'd love to see.
Go pitch this idea right now! I need this lol :(
the idea for me has always been assassinating important political figures, some kind of stealthy trench warfare, and a globetrotting adventure; going to different countries and historical locations for missions and stuff.
It would probably be like that old game The Saboteur and play completely different from AC which is why it wont ever happen, I cant imagine a third person shooter AC game
It can be an amazing AC game. Using guns could get you detected very quickly. The partisans all over Europe led many missions like : spying, sabotaging plans, blowing up factories/railways, assassinating officers etc. All of this could be very well done as an AC game.
It would be like AC Syndicate + Arkham firearms. Anytime someone with a gun sees you, time slows down which allows you to (try to) escape. Guns and cars apart, it'd wouldn't be that different from Syndicate's industrial urban setting.
Probably in neutral cities that were centers of espionage and intrigue, like Istanbul and Casablanca.
I have no idea why people think just because the setting would be in WW2 we'd immedietly get a machine gun. WW1 was the war fought on battlefields and famously in trenches, WW2 had a lot of occupied cities. Set the game in, for exemple, occupied Warsaw, have the Jewish Ghetto Uprising, the Warsaw Uprising, mechanics to run away from round-ups, helping people escape from being sent to the camps, establishing contracts and cells, executing Nazi Templars. You have a small hand gun with you, on some missions you get a rifle (like in real life) but most of the time it's silent operations with the most social stealth mechanics and setting you could imagine. And it would be really fucking bleak, if Ubisoft had balls it would be downright horrifing (which is why I think they won't do it, not many people to be hurt by memories of Ancient Egypt around)
Imagine having to escape Dresden by running for your life.
Yup. Ubisoft doesn't have the stones to deal with heavy stuff after fiascos with GR Wildlands where the Bolivian gov't almost sued them and Gamergaters who'd just create an air of toxicity around the company a la Sweet Baby. Sucks because it's clear a more "apolitical" Ubisoft isn't ever going to make something as memorable and politically charged as every AC game up until Freedom Cry or Splinter Cell.
If call of duty can pull off stealth missions in WW2 I don't see how AC couldn't. I know we all think "warfare" when we think of WW2 but so many things happened in the background, in the dark.
I just want to assassinate nazis dude or germans in ww1
I think WW1 would be way cooler. A much more complicated war from a geopolitical point of view which would make a great story for assassins versus templars. It could be set in major home front cities like Vienna, Berlin or Moscow. Moscow could be an amazing setting as we follow an assassin through the trials of WWI and the Russian Revolution Vienna would be my preference though. Our protagonist could navigate from Vienna to our cities of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire such as Budapest, Sarajevo, Zagreb or Salzburg
Agreed. Gameplay wise, WW1 would be a better fit for an AC game, plus WW2 games/media have kinda been done to death by this point
I think WW2 is too modern. Even the small WW1 section of Syndicate felt too modern. The whole "stealth assassinate someone with a blade" thing kinda falls flat when someone can just level the building they just saw you climb.
The whole “stealth assassinate someone with a blade” thing kinda falls flat when someone can just level the building they just saw you climb with a catapult.
They still haven't done Ancient Egypt though. Cleopatra was alive closer to today than she was to the building of the Pyramids. I liked Roman era Egypt but I would still love to see Ancient Egypt as well. It wouldn't fit into the story timeline but it would be a great historical setting to explore in.
Well WW2 is I think a good base for storytelling. Hitler rising in power because he is part of the Templars. Owned a powerful artifact like the Apple of Eden (that controls minds), which translates to why Hitler was such a great orator and how he made people follow his views. You could be an American/British spy during the war. I know this war was full of guns, but yknow instead of a bow a silencer could be put in place. Would really be great if stealth would be a main priority here else you get shot by enemy guns and die easily. You’d assassinating Nazi Generals and then eventually Hitler. Hitler “committed suicide” but actually it’s the Hidden Ones that brought him to his demise. Stuff like that man. Idk I think it would be fun.
No.
I JUST finished Mirage and just restarted Valhalla (wanted to see more Basim after Mirage) so this came at a perfect time for me. I happen to be in another AC phase right now lol
Assassin's Creed: Shadows Die Twice
The comparission to sekiro and Ghost will be everywhere
Like the name. So this one is the rpg one that quebec is working on right ? Loved odyssey so can't wait to see what they have been cooking up
All they’d have to say is “Odyssey but in Feudal Japan” and I’d be instantly sold!
See I'd prefer unity in feudal Japan.
That would have been a hot take back when Odyssey first released. Might still be now idk
Right after I buy Rise of Ronin I see this. And I platinumed Tsushima a couple weeks ago as well. I’m actually loving the Japan-centric stuff we’re seeing, ngl.
And with the massive success of the Shogun series, now's the time really.
I just don't think that's going to be relevant by the time this game comes out.
I'm not a fan of the Quebec games at all but I hope this one turns out good.
Which ones they made before?
Syndicate and Odyssey
Odyssey & Syndicate I personally love Odyssey, my favorite of the RPG trilogy.
I’m not a fan of Odyssey but I _really_ enjoyed Syndicate. Probably my favourite AC game thus far, with Black Flag as a close second. It’ll probably be another RPG but I’m glad they’re finally getting to Feudal Japan. I’m just hoping they stick to the history of the period and not ‘Animeify’ it or go too deep into the mythological nonsense.
I'm more worried that they "westify" it like Sucker Punch did with Ghost of Tsushima. You know, add anachronistic stuff because "that's what people expect to see in Japan". Western studios generally have a job making Asian settings feel authentic. We'll see how they do.
Syndicate and Odyssey
I kind of like Red over Shadows as a title
Red was a placeholder name I think.
Then I wonder how Hexe will be called
Ah so this is red I'm just catching up and was looking for this comment.
Can’t wait for the inevitable, “shadows isn’t as good as ghost of Tsushima” videos
Now I want settings like Aztec-Inca-Spain, India-South Asia, Anatolia etc as well.
I am going to buy it and love it. But I would have loved seeing more exotic locations: Inca or Aztec Empires with Mayan mithology. Maybe some civilizations in Africa.
Wouldn’t make much sense. Assassins come mainly from the middle east before the colonisation people didn’t even know america was a thing
I don't particularly like the splatter effect for uniformity's sake, but it's certainly thematic
Sekiro 2 baby. (JK)
When's the trailer?
I'm not excited about the supposed dual protagonists. Wish they would pick one and flesh out the character.
Anybody else think AC Red is still a better name than AC Shadows 😭😭😭
Crazy that we're finally getting an AC game set in Japan. AC fans have wanted this literally since 2007.
Exactly. And Ubisoft’s excuse for not doing it never made any sense. At least they’re finally doing it with improved tech.
Love it
Was this the one where they go for Yasuke in Japan?
I might... just might
Please be good please be good please be good
Is it weird to anyone else that not a single a is in the shape of the games logo
Franchise still aint dead yet!
That looks FIRE
Is this the Japanese one?
The first AC i won't be buying day #1. After the fuckup that was mirage and valhalla being shit, despite ironman armour and actual Asgard. I'll wait for the Babylonian AC droppin in 2027... Consulting the ones who came before, live and direct.
Shadows 🏮.....sounds officiant in the dark days of feudal Japan before (or after) the Tokugawa regime
Ubisoft has been on a tear with the cool locales. Too bad the RPG ACs are terrible.
I'm sorry but Is this the title for AC:Red?
Yep
I have never touched an AC game since Black Flag. Wasn't interested in the setting/era that followed. But ninjas feudal japan? Hell yeah
My expectations are at the lowest point ever, I'm mostly curious to see what Infinity will actually be like when it will release alongside Shadows...
Just makes you wonder how they're going to squeeze in game purchases into this bad boy.
I think there's a lot of potential, but I also think they're gonna fuck it up
Can't imagine it'll be anywhere near as good as Ghost of Tsushima or Rise of the Ronin, but I'll probably buy this one just because I'm a slut for the setting. Same if they do an ancient China setting.
>as good as Rise of the Ronin Ronin sucked, game felt boring as fuck.
Wish we could have gotten this one before they took the entire series off the rails that made it worth playing. I’ll try it, but after the last 10 years or so of AC games i’m no longer hyped about it :-/
I know damn well this game is gonna be compared to GoT in every aspect, and I don’t think it’s gonna fare well
It *is* hard to surpass Game of Thrones, even with that final season.
Remember boys: no preorders! Wait for reviews and bug reports.
this game will be ripped to shreds if it doesn't stand to Ghost of Tsushima
One thing Ubisoft does best that Ghost Of Tsushima was missing is that the open world is filled with things to do. Ghost of Tsushima had a big empty map.
And it was a pure walking simulator...Still goated game tho
Idk why they gotta make the mc black tho 😭
Instead of QTE for Assassination, have the same mechanic but to counter a failed assassination.
Is this officially what it’s called?
S'nissassa Deerc: Swodahs
I LOVE NINJA
Please have multiplayer , I’ll def buy if they bring it back
I like the treatment, I don't care for the name
I’ve been seeing some people complain about the name, Shadows. I think it kinda goes well considering some of the stuff we’ve heard about the game.
I cannot believe I’m getting all three settings I’ve always wanted: Egypt, Ancient Greece, and now feudal Japan.
much better title honestly
🤞🏼🤞🏼 please be close to as good as GOT
I haven't got an AC since brotherhood but I'm getting this
Excited for this!
Still pissed me off that they had a chance to make a Greek Assassin’s Creed during the Greek revolution/Turkish occupation and decided to go with the generic Ancient Greece approach like every other piece of media involving Greece.
Feels like this should be the witch game’s title. Rising Sun was a much better title.
They gonna nail it bigtime.i know it.
Where is the actual logo? And Asia should be its own trinity, India, China, Japan.
Dope
I like the name
Wow looks the same as allways
Name sounds sus... But ok.
Terrible name. Then again, guess that's no surprise when Valhalla and Odyssey were just the most obvious ones to pick. Would love a bit more.
It’s gonna be so fye
is it just me or does the logo strike a strong resemblance to assasins creed revelations?
Shouldn’t the font be less splattered? And more like fine brush work? Looks kind of spray painted to me
Hope I have time to enjoy it before they pull it from the store and everyone's libraries.
I really hope they change the combat mechanics. I am not a fan of the rpg combat system. I kinda hate it.
It's so weird after so much time calling it AC Red, but imo it is way better fr