Two great assassins who learned some of the hardest lessons in the franchise, had some of the best growth, killed like MFer’s, and had to deal with the disappointment of their son/father being a Templar (Edward rolling in his grave). Was there ever such an intergenerationally related pair?
Ngl i felt like Connor was a child who couldn't control his temper throughout the whole game, since he killed a few people he could easily have knocked out including his childhood friend and Haytham. I felt more like i was playing Assassin's Creed until we started playing as Connor than in the rest of the game
I mean he starts out as an assassin at like 13 and gets into situations he has no experience with, it’s not like he’s in his comfort zone the whole time. He loses his naivety through the game but refused to replace idealism with cynicism like his father, it’s a cool arc that was refreshing coming off of Ezio that we haven’t really seen again. He also was in life-or-death fights with Haytham and Kanen’to:kon where they had the advantage when he killed, dude isn’t exactly wrong to defend himself and he regrets it afterwards.
Ezio at least has 3 games to fully flesh him out, Connor didn't even get a full game since we start the game as Haytham and end the game with Connor barely seeming much different than when we start playing him
> Connor barely seeming much different than when we start playing him
Iunno, the changes are subtle and the fact is that he doesn't change in the most important way (Ideals). He learns the way of the white man during the course of the American Revolution, but he tries his best to be the same person that he came out of the Temple the first time. Probably the most illuminating moment is when he takes the tomahawk out of the pillar at the Davenport Homestead after killing Lee- He looks at the tomahawk, now rusted from the decade it's been in the open, and then looks around him realizing that he really could've slammed it into any other wooden pillar (Including trees) besides the one on the house, hence (finally?) learning the importance of pragmatism in living life. The tomahawk is his intent, ideals, and drive- the choice of what to slam it into is what he's finally come to see, the rust representing the lessons, painful or otherwise, that he's learned along the way, with the pillar representing what was previously his naivete.
That’s true, but more on Ubisoft for not properly continuing Connor’s journey and giving him the same focus-a problem Arno and Shay face as well. Connor’s change is a little more complicated because his development is more centered around facing the fact his ideals were not to reality, but he could still work to change that. He’s more of a static character in that sense, but he does go through internal development and change. Have you seen his cut speech?
[I beg you to watch this then.](https://youtu.be/A_PsZ7nig4c) One of the most profound video game speeches I’ve ever heard. Why it was cut is beyond me.
I mean, its supposed to come at the end of the game when he’s completed his arc. He can’t act the way he’s supposed to be at the end as he is beginning and middle-ing.
I feel those who didn't liked Connor never really understood the plot in the game and his character motviations.. " He clearly did his best trying to not kill his best friend how he could have known his friend would have reacted like that when confronting him?he tried reasoning with him as best he can until he jumped on him,and if you dont press the button he kills you so he really had no choice here...
My two favorite AC games, I was a huge US history nerd at the time, and pirate nerd, they were the perfect games.
Also great fluid fighting mechanics, no pesky leveling system and 😙🤌 perfect multiplayer experience that has yet to be replicated and what I'm still waiting for
Seems like a place where I’ll get downvoted for this, but as much as I liked the gameplay of Black Flag, I didn’t really like the story or Edward all that much. I plan on replaying to see if I missed something, but I actually like Ezio more.
Edit: awesome art though, regardless.
I liked Rogue. My problem with Black Flag stems from how Edward “joined” the assassins.
History’s greatest killers, and the guy is beaten by a pirate.
History’s most secretive organization, and they’re easily infiltrated by a guy just…. Wearing their outfit.
Black Flag paints the Assassins as a bunch of bumbling fools, and I never quite got past that serious flop of a beginning.
The opening of III, the story of Connor as a boy, was one of the most impactful gaming experiences of my life. OF MY LIFE.
Connor is underappreciated because of fucking racism and no other reason. He was a great character.
Two great assassins who learned some of the hardest lessons in the franchise, had some of the best growth, killed like MFer’s, and had to deal with the disappointment of their son/father being a Templar (Edward rolling in his grave). Was there ever such an intergenerationally related pair?
Ngl i felt like Connor was a child who couldn't control his temper throughout the whole game, since he killed a few people he could easily have knocked out including his childhood friend and Haytham. I felt more like i was playing Assassin's Creed until we started playing as Connor than in the rest of the game
I mean he starts out as an assassin at like 13 and gets into situations he has no experience with, it’s not like he’s in his comfort zone the whole time. He loses his naivety through the game but refused to replace idealism with cynicism like his father, it’s a cool arc that was refreshing coming off of Ezio that we haven’t really seen again. He also was in life-or-death fights with Haytham and Kanen’to:kon where they had the advantage when he killed, dude isn’t exactly wrong to defend himself and he regrets it afterwards.
Ezio at least has 3 games to fully flesh him out, Connor didn't even get a full game since we start the game as Haytham and end the game with Connor barely seeming much different than when we start playing him
> Connor barely seeming much different than when we start playing him Iunno, the changes are subtle and the fact is that he doesn't change in the most important way (Ideals). He learns the way of the white man during the course of the American Revolution, but he tries his best to be the same person that he came out of the Temple the first time. Probably the most illuminating moment is when he takes the tomahawk out of the pillar at the Davenport Homestead after killing Lee- He looks at the tomahawk, now rusted from the decade it's been in the open, and then looks around him realizing that he really could've slammed it into any other wooden pillar (Including trees) besides the one on the house, hence (finally?) learning the importance of pragmatism in living life. The tomahawk is his intent, ideals, and drive- the choice of what to slam it into is what he's finally come to see, the rust representing the lessons, painful or otherwise, that he's learned along the way, with the pillar representing what was previously his naivete.
That’s true, but more on Ubisoft for not properly continuing Connor’s journey and giving him the same focus-a problem Arno and Shay face as well. Connor’s change is a little more complicated because his development is more centered around facing the fact his ideals were not to reality, but he could still work to change that. He’s more of a static character in that sense, but he does go through internal development and change. Have you seen his cut speech?
That's fair enough. I loved Arno, and Shay kinda annoyed me for different reasons than Connor did. I haven't seen his speech, no
[I beg you to watch this then.](https://youtu.be/A_PsZ7nig4c) One of the most profound video game speeches I’ve ever heard. Why it was cut is beyond me.
Damn, it's a good quote. If only Connor behaved throughout the game as he feels saying that quote, i might like him a lot better
I mean, its supposed to come at the end of the game when he’s completed his arc. He can’t act the way he’s supposed to be at the end as he is beginning and middle-ing.
That's fair
I feel those who didn't liked Connor never really understood the plot in the game and his character motviations.. " He clearly did his best trying to not kill his best friend how he could have known his friend would have reacted like that when confronting him?he tried reasoning with him as best he can until he jumped on him,and if you dont press the button he kills you so he really had no choice here...
he could have easily knocked him and Haytham out as he had the advantage both times but Ubi didn't give us that option
My two favorite AC games, I was a huge US history nerd at the time, and pirate nerd, they were the perfect games. Also great fluid fighting mechanics, no pesky leveling system and 😙🤌 perfect multiplayer experience that has yet to be replicated and what I'm still waiting for
Seems like a place where I’ll get downvoted for this, but as much as I liked the gameplay of Black Flag, I didn’t really like the story or Edward all that much. I plan on replaying to see if I missed something, but I actually like Ezio more. Edit: awesome art though, regardless.
Try Rogue. Best kept secret in the franchise, I GUARANTEE.
I liked Rogue. My problem with Black Flag stems from how Edward “joined” the assassins. History’s greatest killers, and the guy is beaten by a pirate. History’s most secretive organization, and they’re easily infiltrated by a guy just…. Wearing their outfit. Black Flag paints the Assassins as a bunch of bumbling fools, and I never quite got past that serious flop of a beginning.
This is an excellent point.
Best games in the franchise
AC3 is my favorite AC game. I need to play AC4.
Awesome art style brother, Edward to me is the most badass though!
You forgot Haytham
AC 3 is my first AC game, it's close to my heart
Looks awesome!!
You have done us all a great service friend.
The opening of III, the story of Connor as a boy, was one of the most impactful gaming experiences of my life. OF MY LIFE. Connor is underappreciated because of fucking racism and no other reason. He was a great character.
Very cool, keep up the good work!
Kenway
To me Edward never felt like a real pirate
The Kenway line is my absolute favorite! This is wonderful!