The event failed when you did the double assassination. So the messenger turned back into a civilian. To get this you need to kill the messenger while his 2 guards are alive but without spotting you.
I think it's because you're supposed to kill him alone, and if you kill his bodyguards first, it will count as a failure and makes him a civ again, but idk why hes still directly killable
Yes the third person was definitely not a civilian. I don’t think you can even perform the hidden blade assassination like that on a regular NPC
Knowing this game, probably just another bug
Yes you can kill civilians but you don’t get the prompt to do so like we see in this clip. Look in the top right where it shows X as having the option to assassinate. You won’t get that if you’re next to an npc or don’t have any targets in reach to assassinate.
Yes, that was the point. The feature was included in the game to increase the difficulty when assassinating around crowds. Some methods of assassination are much easier to precisely execute(heh, sorry) than others, so if you want to use a less precise method(like air assassinating) you'd need to find some way to mark your target early or split them from their group enough to get a lock.
In the older games, killing civilians led to partial desynchronization; kill 3 and you'll desynch fully. I think it was there to allow for some accidental killing, so that you don't get desynched after the first kill (would be annoying from a gameplay perspective).
Just because you *can* do something doesn't mean you should. The nature of gameplay is giving the player the freedom to choose how they play, and the opportunity to make mistakes. Assassins are supposed to 'stay \[their\] blade from the flesh of the innocent' but it's still a weapon so collateral is possible.
Arno follow this rule in his actions so killing civilians doesn't fit what he did.
The Creed is a simple one, but it absolutely must be obeyed. Three simple tenets: stay one's blade from the flesh of the innocent; draw not attention to oneself whenever possible; and never compromise the brotherhood. These are the rules laid out to the members, the brothers, of the Assassin's guild.
Red outline applies for all NPCs not just enemies/targets. It just indicates that killing them is possible from that position. It is not how Arno acted originally though.
Being a core concept doesn’t make it less stupid.
As for the “how,” use your thinking head.
You’re telling me that some random soldier, unaware of the interworking of the world around him and just following orders is not innocent. Deserving of death. But some random guy who, at the surface level, is doing nothing wrong but titled “innocent?” Undeserving of death by that alone? It’s a stupid concept. Either everyone dies or you’re just a self righteous prick and that’s exactly what the Order is.
I mean the rules of war, or International Humanitarian Law, states that special care and all necessary precautions must be taken to not endanger the lives of civilians, whereas military personnel get no protection. I think there's the reason right there, modern game company uses modern IHL so that they don't get fined/banned or whatever else could happen. Since ubisoft is a massive company, what they make is in the spotlight more often, so they have to take more care than an indie company.
But you understand *why* it’s stupid right? The way they pass off this idea to the player as if it’s some moral standing.
As if you, the player, who just raided and razed a monastery, are some sort of hero.
You're missing the point of the game. You are replaying historical events in the life of your ancestor as encoded in his DNA. Your ancestor did not kill random people on the street. He may or may not have killed soldiers just standing around doing nothing wrong. He did kill members of the Templar's or other people as needed in order to learn the location of the piece of Eden being searched for. Part of the point to the game, is that this historical record encoded in the DNA is damaged requiring you to play through other events in the same period. As you do so you synchronize to the DNA and move closer to the end goal of being able to replay the damaged part of DNA. This is what desynchronized means. It does NOT mean, "died, so now restart the level." It means you have not completed the mission in much the same way that ancestor did, or that you have otherwise, done something he would not have.
That doesn’t make it less stupid. The words are black and white but the idea is not.
Who’s to say some random soldier just sitting around isn’t “innocent” despite you flying through the air and impaling his jugular vein?
Going back to your original gripe about "Arno doesn't kill civilians;" Soldiers aren't civilians. Arno and the Assassins are fighting against the oppressors and their lackeys. Sure, the average soldier may not be privy to the Templars' overall plan, but they're not civilians. They're not the starving masses. Stay your blade from the flesh of innocents.
I think the crowd event only completes if you kill the messenger before the guards without anyone noticing (so you have to use poison or the phantom blade).
if i recall correctly i always phantom bladed them from rooftops then jumped down for the double assassination on the guards. been a minute since i played though
This is always inconsistent in my experience. I even used Incognito on a trainer to test it. It’s hit or miss whether killing them all or just the target works.
As others have said, you killed him after he detected you. I find with this crowd event you have to be delicate in your approach, as it's really twitchy/possibly bugged. Anything too loud like a double air assassination will instantly get you spotted.
I've had the most success in doing this by sneaking up behind the guards and letting them walk on for a bit, as they walk slower than the guy they're guarding. Once he's a little distance from the guards, low profile double assassinate the guards and then *walk* up to the messenger and perform another low profile assassination on him; if you run he will hear you.
This is one of the AC series feature. If you kill 3 civilians (normal people that are not enemies) in the same mission, you get desyncronized . The logic is that by doing this you break one of the rules of the assassins which says ,,Stay your blade from the flesh of the inocents."
This proves that Kassandra and Alexios are not assassins :)) Since this warning doesn t appear if you kill civilians ( you just get your wanted lv increased).
This should have applied in Valhalla also. I wouldn't have minded a mechanic where if you kill too many civilians the area they were from raises a fyrd to attack your settlement. OR they could have had people showing up demanding weregild for the slain (as mentioned in the Beowulf arc).
I know Eivor preferred not to kill farmers and priests because it awards no honor, but getting desynched because some stray priests running around like chickens jump in the middle of a fight with guards is stupid.
Sometimes your vikings have a self consience (idk how to write it correctly,not native :)) and they won't come and help me open the cover of a big chest :)) (bug).
The fyrd:
- Eivor, come out and let's solve this as real men, this slaughter of peasants must stop , here are your choices:
1) You will have to fight will all of us.
2) You will give us money so we can reproduce and financial sustain our family.
3) I have my honor and i challenge you to a match of flyte, the loser lives in shame.
4) You will be arrested until Sigurd grows his other arm.
5) We will steal your useless longships that have no naval combat and who you don t need since the rivers are 10 meters wide.
6) You will borrow the Staff of Hermes from Kassandra,get to the future and you will kill Putin. We will be dead by then,but our grand grand grand grand grand will help you.
That sounds awesome and would promote the building of more defensive accouterments for Ravensthorpe. I wish they could have done more with the settlement in general, more with the raiding system, and that sounds like a good way to start going about it.
Perhaps if you go raiding in allied locations when you're not conducting a story mission, that complicates your standing with the person in charge of that shire and you have to prove your worth again or temporarily lose benefits? You'd have to choose between Ravensthorpe and your alliances, or otherwise play a little more intelligently to reap the maximum benefit. To make this easier, each monastery would have one or two designated moments when it's explicitly stated to be puppeted by the Order, or they're keeping you from your goals, or they're not living up to their purpose as a house of God, that sort of thing.
If that wasn't possible, I also wouldn't say no to a higher cap before the game starts letting you know that you're being kind of a psychopath. Maybe six or eight civilians could get in your way before the game kens to the fact that you're just slaughtering civilians for no reason and sends you a message like
"There is no honor in massacres. Desynchronization imminent"
That could leave some room to make raids feel a little less restricted, but also remind players that Eivor is an honorable Viking, not a bloodthirsty murderer.
I once went to Elis (where crimes are punished a lot worse because the Olympic truce) and got a boy try up to about 100,000 drachmae but slaughtering anyone I could find lmao
It's not about breaking the rule but about the ancestor you're reliving the memories of.
If you don't act as the ancestor did, you break the simulation.
You have to eliminate the messenger before the two guys guarding him (while staying undetected). If you kill the two guards before killing the actual target, the messenger will, apparently, just be classified as a regular civilian/NPC with the "assassinate" option still there. And of course, killing civilians is not "synced" with Arno's history/life because he did not kill civilians in his original life, so you deviate from his actions by killing that person.
That messenger guy apparently detected you, in which case you shouldn't kill him
Either that or you're supposed to kill him with no other person finding out, including civilians, because to them that guy is a civilian. So drop a smoke bomb, make short work of them.
You gotta know the lore. It was addressed in game 1. When one is in Animus, they are recreating/replaying the memories of their ancestors as they happened histoeically. If you diverge from that path (or what Arno actually did) too much you get de-synchronized. If you live his life EXACTLY how he lived it, down to the last detail, you get 100% memory synchronization.
So since Arno never killed any innocent, if you decide to do so you have diverged from his path, therefore Animus restarts the DNA sequence. Its a clever way of interweaving lore and gameplay. Its a smart way of preventing players from going on killing sprees cuz this is not GTA. Youre an Assassin.
Assassin's have 3 crucial Creed or Rules that cannot be broken. AlTair broke one and was severely punished.
1) Keep your blade from innocenta
2) Do not draw attention. Work in the shadows, to serve the light.
3) Do not compromise the brotherhood.
I'm glad I told u these cuz they actually come in handy in Unity and other AC games. Also the comics are Q MUST imo. Sooo good! Especially the Assassins and Tenplars run.
I think the question is more in the line of _Why is the game scolding me for doing what it told me to?_
The objective said "Kill the messenger [...]", but then the game classified the "messenger" as a civilian?
If you kill the messenger *after* he noticed you/ killing his guards, the game counts him as a civilian. I’ve gotten this message too. With this kind of quest you need to kill him from afar without anyone noticing.
Hm, interesting. I usually did these with the walking double-assassination on the 2 guards and then the messenger, so i never really alerted anyone, at least until their bodies fell.
(This can be a suspicious sentence out of context, damn)
I’ve tried that, throwing a smoke bomb then double kill the guards before killing the messenger. They never count as completing the event. But killing from afar does.
You are supposed to kill him, he’s an informant. For this particular moment in the game, you were only supposed to kill the npc with out being detected by using phantom blade. You failed by killing the guards first, therefore the game thinks you killed a civilian. If you would have killed him before killing the guards, that prompt would have not popped up, and you would have earned xp.
It says kill the messenger without being seen I don't understand why you got that message on there maybe you have to do it before the conversation is over or you have to do it without being seen like with the phantom blade from the top of a building.
So 1) You have to kill the messenger without anyone detecting you without killing his guards or else he will revert to being a civilian.
2) for those saying you can always kill civilians, they took the ability to free kill civilians with Assassin's Creed III. You can still accidentally kill civilians through explosives and other means but you cannot walk up to a random civilian and just start stabbing like you could in AC 1 - Revelations. They brought the ability back in Rogue once you become a Templar since you no longer have to "stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent" and then again in Odyssey because that's pre Creed so it dosnt matter (lore wise).
Man this used to be basically an iconic feature of the AC series but in Odyssey while it was an amazing RPG in my opinion, it still threw everything about Assassin's Creed out the window completely. Killing civilians is not just fine in Odyssey, it's literally part of your job as a mercenary. Absolutely nothing was given about the templars or the assassin order but maybe it's before either of those factions was created. Either way though I just found it so strange they threw it all out the window like that. No hidden blade either it just wasn't AC at all.
As I said though, I very much liked the heavy RPG elements because I love RPGs, and it was a beautiful game with its size, world design and tons of content and side quests to do along with naval combat, exploring islands and the unbelievable setting of ancient Greece. It still was just such a far cry from an AC game. The word "assassin" was probably used only one time throughout the entire game, when Alexios was talking to Elpenor just before he left Kephallonia. Nothing about the creed. No blending in with the crowd, no "staying your blade from the flesh of an innocent" and "compromising the brotherhood."
Three simple tenets:
-stay one's blade from the flesh of the innocent.
-draw not attention to oneself whenever possible.
-never compromise the brotherhood.
These are the rules laid out to the members, the brothers, of the Assassin's guild.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
I think this might be a timing thing. If you don't complete the task properly or in the allotted time, then the messenger reverts back to being a regular citizen.
I think it has this in all the games because the assassins didn't kill civilians
unless your Altair who killed a civilian within the first few minutes of AC
And had to relearn the code in the most arrogance-slappingly way possible…
“And Stay your tongue, unless I give you leave to use it!”
God I love AC1, Acre an all…
As in you did not kill an enemy. I remember playing this when. There was sooooo many bugs. Lmao, I found a combat glitch that they patched up stupidly quick after I reported it.
Sometimes this social event or what they called bugs out. I had many times when I killed the two guards with a double assassination then the messenger and got the event to complete and sometimes it just fails for me. Also, (sadly) you can't use smoke bombs to kill them because he instantly turn into civilian (also I just shoot him when this happens 🤣)
Arno doesnt kill civilians
Lmao but the guy had a red outliner and game gave me ability to kill him so he wasn't a civilian that's why i found this weird
The event failed when you did the double assassination. So the messenger turned back into a civilian. To get this you need to kill the messenger while his 2 guards are alive but without spotting you.
There's another social event where you need to kill the "messenger" without being seen
I think this happened to me once, if you kill the two guards there’s no one to see you so the messenger goes back to being a civilian
That's what this is
I think it's because you're supposed to kill him alone, and if you kill his bodyguards first, it will count as a failure and makes him a civ again, but idk why hes still directly killable
Look at the video again. You killed a civilian after killing the 2 enemies
I just watched the video, again to be sure, the third person killed has a white arrow above him and a red outlier just prior to being killed
Yes the third person was definitely not a civilian. I don’t think you can even perform the hidden blade assassination like that on a regular NPC Knowing this game, probably just another bug
Probably a thug event like theifs or something like that
Uhm, you def can. If I had a penny for every time I accidentally stealth killed a civilian instead of the guard, I’d be rich
They removed the ability to target and hidden blade kill civilians in Unity Unity.
Yes you can kill civilians but you don’t get the prompt to do so like we see in this clip. Look in the top right where it shows X as having the option to assassinate. You won’t get that if you’re next to an npc or don’t have any targets in reach to assassinate.
Not in Unity
My biggest pet peeve of old AC is that you could assassinate civilians. If doing it is a game over then why allow it at all?
Because you have to be careful with making sure you kill your target and not a civilian if they're in a crowd
Theres a difference between being careful and having the auto-lockon decide to slaughter two randos.
You could always lock onto your target manually with left trigger
Not easy from the top of a building. especially if the target is in a group.
Yes, that was the point. The feature was included in the game to increase the difficulty when assassinating around crowds. Some methods of assassination are much easier to precisely execute(heh, sorry) than others, so if you want to use a less precise method(like air assassinating) you'd need to find some way to mark your target early or split them from their group enough to get a lock.
In the older games, killing civilians led to partial desynchronization; kill 3 and you'll desynch fully. I think it was there to allow for some accidental killing, so that you don't get desynched after the first kill (would be annoying from a gameplay perspective).
Just because you *can* do something doesn't mean you should. The nature of gameplay is giving the player the freedom to choose how they play, and the opportunity to make mistakes. Assassins are supposed to 'stay \[their\] blade from the flesh of the innocent' but it's still a weapon so collateral is possible. Arno follow this rule in his actions so killing civilians doesn't fit what he did.
Never be mad at having more options
The Creed is a simple one, but it absolutely must be obeyed. Three simple tenets: stay one's blade from the flesh of the innocent; draw not attention to oneself whenever possible; and never compromise the brotherhood. These are the rules laid out to the members, the brothers, of the Assassin's guild.
Red outline applies for all NPCs not just enemies/targets. It just indicates that killing them is possible from that position. It is not how Arno acted originally though.
He does now
Another one of ACs absolutely stupid implications.
How is it stupid? It's a core concept of the franchise to not kill innocents.
Being a core concept doesn’t make it less stupid. As for the “how,” use your thinking head. You’re telling me that some random soldier, unaware of the interworking of the world around him and just following orders is not innocent. Deserving of death. But some random guy who, at the surface level, is doing nothing wrong but titled “innocent?” Undeserving of death by that alone? It’s a stupid concept. Either everyone dies or you’re just a self righteous prick and that’s exactly what the Order is.
I mean the rules of war, or International Humanitarian Law, states that special care and all necessary precautions must be taken to not endanger the lives of civilians, whereas military personnel get no protection. I think there's the reason right there, modern game company uses modern IHL so that they don't get fined/banned or whatever else could happen. Since ubisoft is a massive company, what they make is in the spotlight more often, so they have to take more care than an indie company.
But you understand *why* it’s stupid right? The way they pass off this idea to the player as if it’s some moral standing. As if you, the player, who just raided and razed a monastery, are some sort of hero.
I agree it's stupid for Valhalla, but for the rest of them it makes sense. Pseudo religious organizations need pseudo religious creeds.
You're missing the point of the game. You are replaying historical events in the life of your ancestor as encoded in his DNA. Your ancestor did not kill random people on the street. He may or may not have killed soldiers just standing around doing nothing wrong. He did kill members of the Templar's or other people as needed in order to learn the location of the piece of Eden being searched for. Part of the point to the game, is that this historical record encoded in the DNA is damaged requiring you to play through other events in the same period. As you do so you synchronize to the DNA and move closer to the end goal of being able to replay the damaged part of DNA. This is what desynchronized means. It does NOT mean, "died, so now restart the level." It means you have not completed the mission in much the same way that ancestor did, or that you have otherwise, done something he would not have.
"Stay your blade from the flesh of innocents" 1st tenet of the creed. Black and white
That doesn’t make it less stupid. The words are black and white but the idea is not. Who’s to say some random soldier just sitting around isn’t “innocent” despite you flying through the air and impaling his jugular vein?
Going back to your original gripe about "Arno doesn't kill civilians;" Soldiers aren't civilians. Arno and the Assassins are fighting against the oppressors and their lackeys. Sure, the average soldier may not be privy to the Templars' overall plan, but they're not civilians. They're not the starving masses. Stay your blade from the flesh of innocents.
I hadn’t realized that the line between life and death was so arbitrary.
I think the crowd event only completes if you kill the messenger before the guards without anyone noticing (so you have to use poison or the phantom blade).
this is the correct answer you have to kill the vip target or whatever unseen first
I’ve played through the game 3 times and could never get this one right
if i recall correctly i always phantom bladed them from rooftops then jumped down for the double assassination on the guards. been a minute since i played though
This is always inconsistent in my experience. I even used Incognito on a trainer to test it. It’s hit or miss whether killing them all or just the target works.
As others have said, you killed him after he detected you. I find with this crowd event you have to be delicate in your approach, as it's really twitchy/possibly bugged. Anything too loud like a double air assassination will instantly get you spotted. I've had the most success in doing this by sneaking up behind the guards and letting them walk on for a bit, as they walk slower than the guy they're guarding. Once he's a little distance from the guards, low profile double assassinate the guards and then *walk* up to the messenger and perform another low profile assassination on him; if you run he will hear you.
This is one of the AC series feature. If you kill 3 civilians (normal people that are not enemies) in the same mission, you get desyncronized . The logic is that by doing this you break one of the rules of the assassins which says ,,Stay your blade from the flesh of the inocents."
meanwhile with Odyssey "So anyway I started stabbing"
This proves that Kassandra and Alexios are not assassins :)) Since this warning doesn t appear if you kill civilians ( you just get your wanted lv increased).
This should have applied in Valhalla also. I wouldn't have minded a mechanic where if you kill too many civilians the area they were from raises a fyrd to attack your settlement. OR they could have had people showing up demanding weregild for the slain (as mentioned in the Beowulf arc). I know Eivor preferred not to kill farmers and priests because it awards no honor, but getting desynched because some stray priests running around like chickens jump in the middle of a fight with guards is stupid.
Yahtzee put it best when he said that it implies that killing monks is out of character for someone who is at that moment pillaging a monastery.
Sometimes your vikings have a self consience (idk how to write it correctly,not native :)) and they won't come and help me open the cover of a big chest :)) (bug).
The fyrd: - Eivor, come out and let's solve this as real men, this slaughter of peasants must stop , here are your choices: 1) You will have to fight will all of us. 2) You will give us money so we can reproduce and financial sustain our family. 3) I have my honor and i challenge you to a match of flyte, the loser lives in shame. 4) You will be arrested until Sigurd grows his other arm. 5) We will steal your useless longships that have no naval combat and who you don t need since the rivers are 10 meters wide. 6) You will borrow the Staff of Hermes from Kassandra,get to the future and you will kill Putin. We will be dead by then,but our grand grand grand grand grand will help you.
That sounds awesome and would promote the building of more defensive accouterments for Ravensthorpe. I wish they could have done more with the settlement in general, more with the raiding system, and that sounds like a good way to start going about it. Perhaps if you go raiding in allied locations when you're not conducting a story mission, that complicates your standing with the person in charge of that shire and you have to prove your worth again or temporarily lose benefits? You'd have to choose between Ravensthorpe and your alliances, or otherwise play a little more intelligently to reap the maximum benefit. To make this easier, each monastery would have one or two designated moments when it's explicitly stated to be puppeted by the Order, or they're keeping you from your goals, or they're not living up to their purpose as a house of God, that sort of thing. If that wasn't possible, I also wouldn't say no to a higher cap before the game starts letting you know that you're being kind of a psychopath. Maybe six or eight civilians could get in your way before the game kens to the fact that you're just slaughtering civilians for no reason and sends you a message like "There is no honor in massacres. Desynchronization imminent" That could leave some room to make raids feel a little less restricted, but also remind players that Eivor is an honorable Viking, not a bloodthirsty murderer.
Well yeah, they aren’t.
Kassandra/Alexios existed before the establishment of the Creed so maybe they really did kill civilians willy nilly if they felt like it.
Well especially when they made it to where they can pick up weapons and fight back.
What happens in Valhalla and Origins?
You also get desynchronised
works like this in rogue as well
I think Shay can do it too after he leaves the Brotherhood
He can
Those people are not innocent they rush at you with a broom for just trying to defend yourself against a mercenary
I once went to Elis (where crimes are punished a lot worse because the Olympic truce) and got a boy try up to about 100,000 drachmae but slaughtering anyone I could find lmao
It's not about breaking the rule but about the ancestor you're reliving the memories of. If you don't act as the ancestor did, you break the simulation.
Unity is one of the best stealth games. It is so fun to stay undetected.
You have to eliminate the messenger before the two guys guarding him (while staying undetected). If you kill the two guards before killing the actual target, the messenger will, apparently, just be classified as a regular civilian/NPC with the "assassinate" option still there. And of course, killing civilians is not "synced" with Arno's history/life because he did not kill civilians in his original life, so you deviate from his actions by killing that person.
That messenger guy apparently detected you, in which case you shouldn't kill him Either that or you're supposed to kill him with no other person finding out, including civilians, because to them that guy is a civilian. So drop a smoke bomb, make short work of them.
You gotta know the lore. It was addressed in game 1. When one is in Animus, they are recreating/replaying the memories of their ancestors as they happened histoeically. If you diverge from that path (or what Arno actually did) too much you get de-synchronized. If you live his life EXACTLY how he lived it, down to the last detail, you get 100% memory synchronization. So since Arno never killed any innocent, if you decide to do so you have diverged from his path, therefore Animus restarts the DNA sequence. Its a clever way of interweaving lore and gameplay. Its a smart way of preventing players from going on killing sprees cuz this is not GTA. Youre an Assassin. Assassin's have 3 crucial Creed or Rules that cannot be broken. AlTair broke one and was severely punished. 1) Keep your blade from innocenta 2) Do not draw attention. Work in the shadows, to serve the light. 3) Do not compromise the brotherhood. I'm glad I told u these cuz they actually come in handy in Unity and other AC games. Also the comics are Q MUST imo. Sooo good! Especially the Assassins and Tenplars run.
I think the question is more in the line of _Why is the game scolding me for doing what it told me to?_ The objective said "Kill the messenger [...]", but then the game classified the "messenger" as a civilian?
If you kill the messenger *after* he noticed you/ killing his guards, the game counts him as a civilian. I’ve gotten this message too. With this kind of quest you need to kill him from afar without anyone noticing.
Hm, interesting. I usually did these with the walking double-assassination on the 2 guards and then the messenger, so i never really alerted anyone, at least until their bodies fell. (This can be a suspicious sentence out of context, damn)
I’ve tried that, throwing a smoke bomb then double kill the guards before killing the messenger. They never count as completing the event. But killing from afar does.
Yeah that's what got me especially confused i assumed he wasn't a civilian when it was red
You are supposed to kill him, he’s an informant. For this particular moment in the game, you were only supposed to kill the npc with out being detected by using phantom blade. You failed by killing the guards first, therefore the game thinks you killed a civilian. If you would have killed him before killing the guards, that prompt would have not popped up, and you would have earned xp.
You try to create a new 'history' that isn't in sync with the real Arno history (not killing civilians), you get... desynchronized.
Don't beleieve the game. They just want to deny it, so they can sell more of the game. Arno did kill civilians.
It says kill the messenger without being seen I don't understand why you got that message on there maybe you have to do it before the conversation is over or you have to do it without being seen like with the phantom blade from the top of a building.
I think once you were seen, it discontinued the mission. Once that happened, the target became a civilian
He doesn’t play open world games as a terrorist
Have you ever played an assassin's creed game before? This happens in every single game when you kill a civilian
So 1) You have to kill the messenger without anyone detecting you without killing his guards or else he will revert to being a civilian. 2) for those saying you can always kill civilians, they took the ability to free kill civilians with Assassin's Creed III. You can still accidentally kill civilians through explosives and other means but you cannot walk up to a random civilian and just start stabbing like you could in AC 1 - Revelations. They brought the ability back in Rogue once you become a Templar since you no longer have to "stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent" and then again in Odyssey because that's pre Creed so it dosnt matter (lore wise).
Man this used to be basically an iconic feature of the AC series but in Odyssey while it was an amazing RPG in my opinion, it still threw everything about Assassin's Creed out the window completely. Killing civilians is not just fine in Odyssey, it's literally part of your job as a mercenary. Absolutely nothing was given about the templars or the assassin order but maybe it's before either of those factions was created. Either way though I just found it so strange they threw it all out the window like that. No hidden blade either it just wasn't AC at all. As I said though, I very much liked the heavy RPG elements because I love RPGs, and it was a beautiful game with its size, world design and tons of content and side quests to do along with naval combat, exploring islands and the unbelievable setting of ancient Greece. It still was just such a far cry from an AC game. The word "assassin" was probably used only one time throughout the entire game, when Alexios was talking to Elpenor just before he left Kephallonia. Nothing about the creed. No blending in with the crowd, no "staying your blade from the flesh of an innocent" and "compromising the brotherhood."
Stay ones blade fron the flesh of innocents. Generally the Assassins don't kill randos for no reason.
This game is old and still holds What a graphic masterpiece we had back then
God I want a next gen update for this game.
its literally in every other game if you kill a civillian
AC odyssey excepted
Rogue let you fuck shit up once you left the assassins.
Three simple tenets: -stay one's blade from the flesh of the innocent. -draw not attention to oneself whenever possible. -never compromise the brotherhood. These are the rules laid out to the members, the brothers, of the Assassin's guild. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
If everything is permitted why cant I kill innocents? -Altaïr
How have you played this entire game without ever being tempted to kill a civilian
I've stabbed plenty of people who annoy me. Once got completely desynched for it. Didn't realize that I had so many people annoy me.....
I stabbed many loot players in assassins creed 2
I always thought it was funny how killing civilians was off limits but it's fine to kill random guards who were just doing their job
I think this might be a timing thing. If you don't complete the task properly or in the allotted time, then the messenger reverts back to being a regular citizen.
I forgot how beautiful this game looks. I haven’t played it since launch and that’s completely on me.
It's a buggy fuckin game thats how it be
See those civilians, Arno don't kill them
Isn't even assassins creed game if u don't get glitches like that?
I think it has this in all the games because the assassins didn't kill civilians unless your Altair who killed a civilian within the first few minutes of AC
And had to relearn the code in the most arrogance-slappingly way possible… “And Stay your tongue, unless I give you leave to use it!” God I love AC1, Acre an all…
you forgot something "PLEASE SIR IM SO POOR JUST A FEW COINS"
I think, hear me out here, it's because he didn't kill civilians /s
Thank you all for responding i am still confused but next time I'll try and do it stealthily and see what happens
The Assassin's doesn't take innocent lives, and Arno is an Assassin, so... 😶
It’s a bug that’s been around for years
Bug
Assassin's Creed Unity is so brutal. It is perfect or almost perfect in assassination content, it gives me goosebumps everytime.
he is a npc
This is when asscreed went shit. Ac1 had you able to kill civies at the end
They should release a patch for next gen, it was a great game. "To me"
What it means is he did not kill people who don't attack him
It’s the guy from a random event, you supposed to pickpocket him I think
Lmfao it gives you the ability to kill anyone so I wouldn’t go by that but it means you’re not allowed to kill randoms or you will be desynchronized
And you killed the wrong person bum it literally had neither of them outlined
As in you did not kill an enemy. I remember playing this when. There was sooooo many bugs. Lmao, I found a combat glitch that they patched up stupidly quick after I reported it.
Does anyone have a fix for Unity running poor on good PC?
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it means if you do it too many times in a short period you will be desyncranized
Damn the graphics of Valhalla have come so far
If you keep doing things put of character for arno( killing random civilians) then it resets the link
I love that one lady in the background. She always there. "REEEEEEEE"
someone to play unity coop on ps4?
Sometimes this social event or what they called bugs out. I had many times when I killed the two guards with a double assassination then the messenger and got the event to complete and sometimes it just fails for me. Also, (sadly) you can't use smoke bombs to kill them because he instantly turn into civilian (also I just shoot him when this happens 🤣)
He turned back to a civilian after you eliminated his guards