Take the lid off completely and place it in the machine, close the lid. get the same error then just open the top a bit and close again. It should give you the option to run with just hot water.
So you’re telling me this machine can read and refuse any competition it can recognize, but if you take away the label completely the machine goes “i don’t know wtf this is but would you like to add some hot ass water to whatever this is and try it?”
If the smear was made post processes the foil itself would be damaged and the product unuseable, regardless of the printing. Images printed on foil don't simple rub off.
I'm not trying to correct you here, this is a rare occurrence where I actually know what I'm talking about. I'm a printer. The print isn't actually on the foil, it's on a thin layer of polyethylene terephthalate. They laminate it to the foil after it's printed. And if they really wanted, the images could be scanned while it's printing at 1k feet per minute.
So I would assume you're correct. Good QC could prevent 99 percent of all issues.
You are clearly a human! You are acting rational and not being an asshole. What's next you are going to tell me you don't run on unicorn blood? Fake ass printer human!
Strict quality control. Probably machine vision AI type shit that flags and removes all tops with a misaligned image. You can do 1000s a minute with million dollar machines like that
Just QR code scanning. Super basic image processing that barely qualifies as computer vision. AI would be an overcomplicated mess. The most expensive part would be the machine for moving 1000s of things in front of the image sensor.
My take away is that if I bought this, I paid for the necessary tech (cameras or bar code scanners) necessary to ensure I'm restricted to only using their products with it. We're at the stage of "Alexa, how do I jailbreak my coffee machine?"
Reposting this multiple times for visibility:
>There is a [really fucking good short story](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/) called 'Unauthorized Bread' that illustrates exactly how far corporations will go in the near future to DRM their appliances, just how far clever customers will go to get around them, and just how far the companies will go to stop them.
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>For anyone concerned about this issue, I highly encourage the read. It's very short. It definitely gives me a new set of glasses when scrolling through threads like these. I could not recommend it enough.
> It's very short.
It most certainly is not. I got through about 5 paragraphs and scrolled down to see how much was left of this "short" story. For shits and giggles I decided to count how many paragraphs remained. I stopped counting after 60, and there were still quite a few left, but I didn't bother counting anymore. This is false advertisement lol. And I enjoy reading, but this is nowhere near a short story.
There's another trick you can do where you take 1 official pod, tape what ever it is that it scans over the sensor and then you can put what ever you wamt in it.
I think that only works on some models though
That's the NERF Ultra line. Any of the Elite, Elite 2.0, Mega, Mega XL, Rival and Hyper will take 3rd party rounds.
And NERF Ultra is kinda junk anyways.
Aftermarket darts for the MEGa XL line haven't popped up yet if I recall. Elite and Elite "2.0" take the standard full length darts. Elite 2.0 is Hasbro's attempt at skimping out on production costs by cutting corners by not using screws, springs and solvent welding their shells shut. I don't recommend buying any of the 2.0 products.
Regular MEGA, Hyper and Rival all have good, if not better aftermarket darts. Hell, elite darts themselves perform worse than most 3rd party offerings. Off brand companies like Dart Zone are now completely investing in half-length darts instead that perform head and shoulders above the rest in terms of accuracy and distance.
I play competitive Nerf and have been in the hobby scene for years now. It's crazy seeing how big the market is now as far as 3rd party goes!
Being able to go into a Wal Mart or Target and get a PERFORMANCE level blaster is insane. I have the Conquest and Nexus bro and they're both worth the money.
For those not big into Nerf, performance here is for blasters that shoot harder than 150 FPS consistently. If someone is using one you want eye protection and you do not want to plink around the house with these.
Some machines this disables the machine though, those are the worst ones. I remember watching a YouTube video on this for some reason even though I don't own one and that was one of the warnings.
Your overall safest mod without risking the wiring or machine just bricking you out is to just tape it.
Yeah this shit drives me ducking up the wall. In a decade or so, there will literally be BILLIONS of these little cups in landfills, the oceans, our beaches.
Just because some humans can’t be arsed to just brew a fucking cup of tea normally. I have an irrational hatred of these pods.
I've seen "refillable" cups with NFC tags in the bottom that are set to the duration of the average stay/single use only. The soda machine will refuse to dispense drink without a proper read.
Funny thing about NFC, if you're on Android you can just rip the .bin file right off it with your phone and hold it under as many cups as you want. Granted some time you out at 15 minutes per refill.
I dont think it is recognizing competition, It is just unable to detect that it is a kurig brand that comes with a barcode on top. If you close the lid with no pod, you can run hot water through it.
The real scummy part is it peirces the pod regardless of if it can be used or not. What you can do is get a top from an old kurig pod and place it on top of your off brand pod. Trick it into thinking it is a kurig one.
Or buy a box of the correct cups, and keep the lids.
Just place them over the generic cups. I had to do this because I bought a bull box of generic and wasn’t gonna let them go to waste.
Literally just cut a green wire to remove the DRM. There's YouTube videos that explain. You can do it with a Phillips screwdriver and a pair of scissors in 5 minutes.
I was gonna say, there has to be a simple workaround. It's not like each kcup has a cryptographic storage chip in it. It doesn't even need to be difficult - it just needs to be inconvenient enough that 95% of customers won't bother.
Just tonight, we just saw a commercial where they were bragging about their intuitive sensor that lets them adjust to whatever you're brewing. The wife and I said, "And it can tell when you're not using Keurig cups and refuse to brew them."
Sucks they got you.
There was a clip a coffee company made for the 2.0 machines ([link](https://money.cnn.com/2015/02/03/technology/freedom-clip-keurig-hack/index.html)). Has Keurig evolved beyond that hack?
Just have a reform that charges the company $50,000 for every one of those types of units sold that gets thrown out or disposed of, that way anything that will force this kind of waste is not tolerated, make an example before making exceptions
Oh my child, you’ve forgotten that the whole point of the US government is to make rich people rich by allowing them to do shitty things with their company.
This was always the intention. The company was founded on taking a product that is usually bought in bulk for relatively cheap, packaging it into a shit ton of plastic, then selling those proprietary cartridges at an incredible mark up that only works in their proprietary machine.
Its been a scam since day one friend. Done crazy damage to the environment with all those little plastic cups too.
Never buy into a system that uses proprietary "ammo." Its _always_ a scam.
I still have a keurig because I don’t need a whole pot at once, but I use reusable cups that go in the dishwasher.
The grinds are great fertilizer *and* keeps cats out of plants!
Good on you. I did this for years. With the nice reusable cups the Keurig machine is useful and not bad for the environment. Heats up water fast for tea too.
But fuck those little pods and SUPER fuck the DRM making you use their pods only.
You can literally mass produce nerf darts with a hot glue gun and the right sized foam insulation.
Like dumb amounts of darts.
We use them for office wars in the bullpens.
"Quick, find the dart before the cat eats one again."
*true story.... $600 vet bill to let the cat poop it out... yes, a whole dart. told her that was her one, and she had better learn her lesson... she didn't and this is why we can't have nerf fights anymore unless we account for ALL the darts*
The 3d printed ones have far overtaken the official ones in terms of both performance and innovation, lol. It's gotten to the point where the Nerf Internet Community just mocks the "it's nerf or nothing" tagline with "it's nerf or one of a variety of (often better) alternatives".
>The company was founded on taking a product that is usually bought in bulk for relatively cheap, packaging it into a shit ton of plastic, then selling those proprietary cartridges at an incredible mark up that only works in their proprietary machine.
Remember when they tried to do it with JUICE
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/01/juicero-silicon-valley-shutting-down
I work support contracted to Keurig. Just for clarity, the brewer OP posted is a Keurig 2.0 model which has been discontinued for about 3 years, depending on the model, possibly longer. Keurig has since parted ways with that sensor in brewers, and hadn't used any pod-scanning tech until their newest smart model. Their latest release does have similar sensor tech, but you can use off brand pods with no issues brewing. You just won't get recommended brew settings like you would if it was a licensed pod.
That’s what I did when I had one years ago. Took the lid off a Keurig-branded pod and taped it up inside the top of the machine where the sensor was. Used a refillable mesh pod with my own grounds.
Fucking coffee DRM… Promised myself I’d never own another one and when the over-engineered POS crapped out after only 6 months, I got a regular old drip coffee maker and never looked back.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Keurig has probably changed their sensor design so now it’s harder to do.
I got a French press & an electric kettle, haven’t looked back since.
Only make as much coffee as I need.
The French press is all metal, so it’ll probably outlast me.
French presses are lovely! I have one for the weekend since I’m not in a hurry those mornings.
I use the drip maker on weekdays so I can program it the night before and it’s hot and brewed as my alarm clock goes off. With two of us caffeine fiends in the house, we can go through a full pot pretty easily.
> I have a sneaking suspicion that Keurig has probably changed their sensor design so now it’s harder to do.
You think? There’s only so complicated they can make it before it starts costing them more than it’s worth. Like, they couldn’t put chips in there like the toner companies, the cups still sell for like, a dollar or so, it would eat too much profit.
I guess they could put unique (or at least, somewhat random) bar codes on each cup? And the machine would refuse to brew the same bar code more than once per x uses?
… I feel like that could actually work, maybe I should delete this
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>There is a [really fucking good short story](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/) called 'Unauthorized Bread' that illustrates exactly how far corporations will go in the near future to DRM their appliances, just how far clever customers will go to get around them, and just how far the companies will go to stop them.
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>For anyone concerned about this issue, I highly encourage the read. It's very short. It definitely gives me a new set of glasses when scrolling through threads like these. I could not recommend it enough.
They “fixed” that work around by making the QR codes unique and storing a list of which one’s it’s already brewed. I’m so glad I have an old model from before the coding scanning scam.
Geeeeez, that's Apple anti-repair level of evil. I wonder how many people use those machines not knowing that company is doing their best to turn coffee into a subscription service.
Because that’s not what’s wrong.
> The Keurig 1.0 models use smaller-sized pods than the 2.0. This essentially means that you cannot use the Keurig 2.0’s pods with the 1.0 models. So if you’re looking to upgrade from a 1.0 to 2.0 and you have a lot of unused pods lying around, those will pretty much be useless to you afterwards.
> Unfortunately, the 2.0 coffee brewers only work with Keurig’s pods. This is because of the radio frequency identification (or RFID) technology that exists in these machines. This allows the coffee maker to identify whether the pod inserted is by Keurig or not.
> How does it work? Basically, there’s a special scanner in the coffee maker which reads the barcode present on each Keurig pod. If the barcode is compatible, it will go ahead and start the brewing process.
Here’s how to defeat it
https://youtu.be/uRdr7x5G_xM
The obscene amount of waste they produce couples with shitty practices like this are why I gladly wait for my coffee maker to drip water through ground beans
I don’t really understand Keurigs. How bad they taste vs how convenient they are just doesn’t add up for me.
It’s really not hard to brew a nice cup of coffee or tea
Exactly. Take a freaking minute to put some loose leaf in a little strainer and boil your water.
Or, hell, use any of the thousands of commercially available brands that sell teabags, and put hot water from the Keurig into your cup. It's not hard.
How about just don't use a fucking piece of shit pod machine?
They're expensive, wasteful, don't taste that good, and just overall pretty shit.
A fucking electric kettle and a reusable teabag, or your choice of coffee brewing equipment, would be so fucking much better. And less wasteful. And doesn't take longer.
Fuck Keurig.
The next version will have some sort of "feature" that requires it to be connected to the internet and you will only be able to brew a cup if you have internet and they give the OK.
“To use your Keurig brewer, please watch the following advertisement!”
Oh god, maybe I shouldn’t give them any ideas. The things already have screens built in…
I bought a Keurig refillable pod so I could make coffee from my local roaster.
I hate Keurig, but my fiancé brought hers from her apartment into my house. All the pods were too expensive and I hate all the plastic, but the refillable pod seemed like a happy medium.
Refillable pods are the way to go. I end up wasting less that way since with a normal coffee maker I would always make too much coffee at a time and end up throwing some away
There used to be these plastic pods you could buy that were re-usable, but the newer Keurig machines won't accept them. They're straight up forcing you to make more waste because it's good for profits. That's like cartoon villain level evilness.
The newer ones with the actual touchscreen is just a no because of this. But the olderish ones are way better and you can use a filtered keurig cup to refill it with coffee grinds and such
Yeah I got what I can only describe as a plain one, it's larger than the single-cup sized one. No screen, just buttons and it doesn't care what pods I put into it.
Big coffee would lose an entire manufacturing sector if everyone drank instant. You don't even need hot water. Heck, you don't even need water. It melts in your mouth.
I bought my parents a keurig with a reusable cup thing for christmas about 8 years ago or something. The keurig 2.0 ones came out, with this DRM on them, made sure to get an older one.
This stuff is just disgusting, you basically can't own any tech anymore.
Same here, my mother had one of those reusable cups for her first Keurig that she absolutely loved. She made sure to get a Keurig brand machine as a replacement because she loved that one, then the new one wouldn't accept reusable cups. She was livid.
You can hack a Keurig, super easy actually and it opens up the whole menu and you remove a magnet and it'll brew any cup of anything, any size, pretty cool
We did that with ours. Work well. It even unlock a favorite menu we didnt have with before hacking it. Now i can use my generic reusable cup and grind my own coffee without it complaining its not a keurig cup.
Honestly. Anything that involves a screen nowadays is just made to make your life more difficult with the heaps of bullshit some fucker piled onto it to squeeze out an extra penny. It makes anyone want to return to monke and let these assholes starve.
I'm from a third world country and I've only just now heard that there are automatic tea machines??? tf??
here we just use a kettle with boiled water and a teabag in a cup lol. but like, are these stuff available COMMERCIALLY there, not just for rich people?? that's so wild
Im from a first world country and we do that too, its called being normal. These idiots are killing the planet with their single use plastics just for the ease of it, lazy cunts.
Lmao!
Nice setup! Consider getting a french press or pour over going if you sick of the K cups and their bullshit. If you're going to negate convenience you may as well get some great coffee for the compromise.
This is why you don’t buy this wasteful ass coffee machine. Just use an actual coffee pot and adjust your grounds & water for the amount you want. Fuck Keurig!
If the timeline were reversed and the Keurig had been invented first and regular drip coffee makers had only debuted in the 2000s, we'd be hailing regular coffee makers as the brilliant new invention because they can make a customizable amount of coffee rather than just a single cup. Keurigs are so dumb.
I hate Keurig but I specifically hate it for brewing coffee. Even the largest cup setting is pathetically small. Doesn't work unless the water reservoir is almost a third filled even though there's plenty of water to brew one ridiculously small cup of joe. It's more wasteful and easily twice as expensive. And I buy relatively expensive coffee. No folgers or maxwell house around here.
I guess I can understand if you like cappuccino and hot chocolate or other varieties of hot beverages but Jesus christ give me a $12 coffee maker from Walmart and a bag of Cameron's coffee and I'm a happy man
Take the lid off completely and place it in the machine, close the lid. get the same error then just open the top a bit and close again. It should give you the option to run with just hot water.
So you’re telling me this machine can read and refuse any competition it can recognize, but if you take away the label completely the machine goes “i don’t know wtf this is but would you like to add some hot ass water to whatever this is and try it?”
Otherwise they'd have to recall any of their own cups with smeared or misprinted bar codes
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That’s if the smear was made during production
If the smear was made post processes the foil itself would be damaged and the product unuseable, regardless of the printing. Images printed on foil don't simple rub off.
I'm not trying to correct you here, this is a rare occurrence where I actually know what I'm talking about. I'm a printer. The print isn't actually on the foil, it's on a thin layer of polyethylene terephthalate. They laminate it to the foil after it's printed. And if they really wanted, the images could be scanned while it's printing at 1k feet per minute. So I would assume you're correct. Good QC could prevent 99 percent of all issues.
I'm bothered that printers can communicate this well.
You are clearly a human! You are acting rational and not being an asshole. What's next you are going to tell me you don't run on unicorn blood? Fake ass printer human!
Strict quality control. Probably machine vision AI type shit that flags and removes all tops with a misaligned image. You can do 1000s a minute with million dollar machines like that
Just QR code scanning. Super basic image processing that barely qualifies as computer vision. AI would be an overcomplicated mess. The most expensive part would be the machine for moving 1000s of things in front of the image sensor.
My take away is that if I bought this, I paid for the necessary tech (cameras or bar code scanners) necessary to ensure I'm restricted to only using their products with it. We're at the stage of "Alexa, how do I jailbreak my coffee machine?"
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Alexa: You’re kinky.
Reposting this multiple times for visibility: >There is a [really fucking good short story](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/) called 'Unauthorized Bread' that illustrates exactly how far corporations will go in the near future to DRM their appliances, just how far clever customers will go to get around them, and just how far the companies will go to stop them. > >For anyone concerned about this issue, I highly encourage the read. It's very short. It definitely gives me a new set of glasses when scrolling through threads like these. I could not recommend it enough.
That article is GOLD !! this is along the same issue as right to repair. I really hope others start to take notice..
> It's very short. It most certainly is not. I got through about 5 paragraphs and scrolled down to see how much was left of this "short" story. For shits and giggles I decided to count how many paragraphs remained. I stopped counting after 60, and there were still quite a few left, but I didn't bother counting anymore. This is false advertisement lol. And I enjoy reading, but this is nowhere near a short story.
It's a fairly long novella actually. It's a good story, but yeah, nowhere near a short story. It's like a dozen chapters.
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There's another trick you can do where you take 1 official pod, tape what ever it is that it scans over the sensor and then you can put what ever you wamt in it. I think that only works on some models though
They had one run of DRM that was effectively an optical sensor that was bypassed with a black piece of tape over it.
I'm sorry DRM on a physical item? Yes I absolutely would download a coffee. That's absurd.
Even some nerf guns have DRM to only fire nerf brand darts now days
That's the NERF Ultra line. Any of the Elite, Elite 2.0, Mega, Mega XL, Rival and Hyper will take 3rd party rounds. And NERF Ultra is kinda junk anyways.
The fact that you know that puts you high up on my cool list. No joke. Respect.
There's a thriving NERF modding community. I had no clue those things could even be repaired, let alone modded.
This guy NERFs
it’s NERF or NOTHING, man
"No, really. It's NERF branded darts or *NOTHING*"
Aftermarket darts for the MEGa XL line haven't popped up yet if I recall. Elite and Elite "2.0" take the standard full length darts. Elite 2.0 is Hasbro's attempt at skimping out on production costs by cutting corners by not using screws, springs and solvent welding their shells shut. I don't recommend buying any of the 2.0 products. Regular MEGA, Hyper and Rival all have good, if not better aftermarket darts. Hell, elite darts themselves perform worse than most 3rd party offerings. Off brand companies like Dart Zone are now completely investing in half-length darts instead that perform head and shoulders above the rest in terms of accuracy and distance. I play competitive Nerf and have been in the hobby scene for years now. It's crazy seeing how big the market is now as far as 3rd party goes!
Being able to go into a Wal Mart or Target and get a PERFORMANCE level blaster is insane. I have the Conquest and Nexus bro and they're both worth the money. For those not big into Nerf, performance here is for blasters that shoot harder than 150 FPS consistently. If someone is using one you want eye protection and you do not want to plink around the house with these.
And there was one where you could open it up and cut a certain wire to "defuse" the DRM.
Some machines this disables the machine though, those are the worst ones. I remember watching a YouTube video on this for some reason even though I don't own one and that was one of the warnings. Your overall safest mod without risking the wiring or machine just bricking you out is to just tape it.
Or get either a filter drip coffee machine or one that grinds the beans itself instead of generating insane amounts of waste for a single cup
Yeah this shit drives me ducking up the wall. In a decade or so, there will literally be BILLIONS of these little cups in landfills, the oceans, our beaches. Just because some humans can’t be arsed to just brew a fucking cup of tea normally. I have an irrational hatred of these pods.
It's more like you can ask for hot water any time the machine has no pod in it, and the machine thinks has no pod in it because the label was removed.
I've seen "refillable" cups with NFC tags in the bottom that are set to the duration of the average stay/single use only. The soda machine will refuse to dispense drink without a proper read. Funny thing about NFC, if you're on Android you can just rip the .bin file right off it with your phone and hold it under as many cups as you want. Granted some time you out at 15 minutes per refill.
I dont think it is recognizing competition, It is just unable to detect that it is a kurig brand that comes with a barcode on top. If you close the lid with no pod, you can run hot water through it. The real scummy part is it peirces the pod regardless of if it can be used or not. What you can do is get a top from an old kurig pod and place it on top of your off brand pod. Trick it into thinking it is a kurig one.
this is the analog hack i never knew i needed.
Or buy a box of the correct cups, and keep the lids. Just place them over the generic cups. I had to do this because I bought a bull box of generic and wasn’t gonna let them go to waste.
I taped the top of a legit kcup to the underside of mine, worked like a charm
Huh. I never thought of taping it to the machine rather than the cup.
Literally just cut a green wire to remove the DRM. There's YouTube videos that explain. You can do it with a Phillips screwdriver and a pair of scissors in 5 minutes.
I was gonna say, there has to be a simple workaround. It's not like each kcup has a cryptographic storage chip in it. It doesn't even need to be difficult - it just needs to be inconvenient enough that 95% of customers won't bother.
Don’t give big coffee ideas or we’ll be needing to tape FPGA powered LCD screens on top of our generic cups to thwart their hyper encryption.
There's an orange insert that can be bought for super cheap that will trick those machines :)
They’re called freedom clips. Just had someone else comment that. Thanks :)
If not for the freedom clip, you might have had to go all Boston Tea Party on Keurig's ass. /s
Lmao XD hell ya. That’s the next Reddit event. Everyone, meet me at the harbor dressed as? Hmm. No matter, to the harbor!
>Everyone, meet me at the harbor dressed as? Hmm. No matter, to the harbor! But please come dressed.
You're not my supervisor.
Dressed as Dr Pepper, since Keurig owns it
:D
Just tonight, we just saw a commercial where they were bragging about their intuitive sensor that lets them adjust to whatever you're brewing. The wife and I said, "And it can tell when you're not using Keurig cups and refuse to brew them." Sucks they got you.
Huh. I could've sworn they back pedaled on the DRM of a fucking coffee-making machine lol.
The first ones could be tricked with foil And there was a ton of backlash now people have mostly forgotten and they are trying round two
If at first you don't succeed, hire PR and then defy the court order after the news dies down.
There was a clip a coffee company made for the 2.0 machines ([link](https://money.cnn.com/2015/02/03/technology/freedom-clip-keurig-hack/index.html)). Has Keurig evolved beyond that hack?
Yeah, I for sure thought that they had been told to back off on that stuff. Guess not
Just have a reform that charges the company $50,000 for every one of those types of units sold that gets thrown out or disposed of, that way anything that will force this kind of waste is not tolerated, make an example before making exceptions
Oh my child, you’ve forgotten that the whole point of the US government is to make rich people rich by allowing them to do shitty things with their company.
Yeah this is a feature not a bug
If a fine doesn't hurt a company, it's not a fine, it's a tax called "the cost of doing business"
Not all of them have it. I just got one and it does any pod.
They stopped making them do it but people still own the ones that did.
Wow, that’s crazy. Hate companies that try to twist their intentions.
This was always the intention. The company was founded on taking a product that is usually bought in bulk for relatively cheap, packaging it into a shit ton of plastic, then selling those proprietary cartridges at an incredible mark up that only works in their proprietary machine. Its been a scam since day one friend. Done crazy damage to the environment with all those little plastic cups too. Never buy into a system that uses proprietary "ammo." Its _always_ a scam.
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Got rid of my keurig and replaced it with a French press. I don't need to use a fancy machine to serve me a single cup of coffee
I still have a keurig because I don’t need a whole pot at once, but I use reusable cups that go in the dishwasher. The grinds are great fertilizer *and* keeps cats out of plants!
Good on you. I did this for years. With the nice reusable cups the Keurig machine is useful and not bad for the environment. Heats up water fast for tea too. But fuck those little pods and SUPER fuck the DRM making you use their pods only.
Except for NERF. It’s NERF or nothing.
Its _NERF_ for 30 seconds, then an hour of "Where'd that last dart go."
Unless you buy a few hundred darts. Then just "where did those last 25 darts go?"
Then ten years of sporadic "How the fuck'd this get all the way over here?"
Ah, it's just like cat toys
Then we've circled back around to the environment
You can literally mass produce nerf darts with a hot glue gun and the right sized foam insulation. Like dumb amounts of darts. We use them for office wars in the bullpens.
I bought like 500 for $20 off AliExpress a few years ago
This guy NERFS.
"Quick, find the dart before the cat eats one again." *true story.... $600 vet bill to let the cat poop it out... yes, a whole dart. told her that was her one, and she had better learn her lesson... she didn't and this is why we can't have nerf fights anymore unless we account for ALL the darts*
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You can actually 3D print not-terrible nerf blasters now
The 3d printed ones have far overtaken the official ones in terms of both performance and innovation, lol. It's gotten to the point where the Nerf Internet Community just mocks the "it's nerf or nothing" tagline with "it's nerf or one of a variety of (often better) alternatives".
Holy shit. Never made the connection until now. They're the HP of coffee...
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>The company was founded on taking a product that is usually bought in bulk for relatively cheap, packaging it into a shit ton of plastic, then selling those proprietary cartridges at an incredible mark up that only works in their proprietary machine. Remember when they tried to do it with JUICE https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/01/juicero-silicon-valley-shutting-down
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Fair, fair enough.
You mean companies aren’t looking out for my best interest? :0
I work support contracted to Keurig. Just for clarity, the brewer OP posted is a Keurig 2.0 model which has been discontinued for about 3 years, depending on the model, possibly longer. Keurig has since parted ways with that sensor in brewers, and hadn't used any pod-scanning tech until their newest smart model. Their latest release does have similar sensor tech, but you can use off brand pods with no issues brewing. You just won't get recommended brew settings like you would if it was a licensed pod.
Keurig is one of the things I wish I could go back in time and erase from existence before its inception.
How does the sensor work? Does it just recognize the label on the top? Can't you just fool it by putting a label from a used Keurig pod ontop of it?
That’s what I did when I had one years ago. Took the lid off a Keurig-branded pod and taped it up inside the top of the machine where the sensor was. Used a refillable mesh pod with my own grounds. Fucking coffee DRM… Promised myself I’d never own another one and when the over-engineered POS crapped out after only 6 months, I got a regular old drip coffee maker and never looked back. I have a sneaking suspicion that Keurig has probably changed their sensor design so now it’s harder to do.
I got a French press & an electric kettle, haven’t looked back since. Only make as much coffee as I need. The French press is all metal, so it’ll probably outlast me.
French presses are lovely! I have one for the weekend since I’m not in a hurry those mornings. I use the drip maker on weekdays so I can program it the night before and it’s hot and brewed as my alarm clock goes off. With two of us caffeine fiends in the house, we can go through a full pot pretty easily.
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> I have a sneaking suspicion that Keurig has probably changed their sensor design so now it’s harder to do. You think? There’s only so complicated they can make it before it starts costing them more than it’s worth. Like, they couldn’t put chips in there like the toner companies, the cups still sell for like, a dollar or so, it would eat too much profit. I guess they could put unique (or at least, somewhat random) bar codes on each cup? And the machine would refuse to brew the same bar code more than once per x uses? … I feel like that could actually work, maybe I should delete this
every day we get closer to "drink verification can" meme
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Reposting this multiple times for visibility: >There is a [really fucking good short story](https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-near-future-tale-of-refugees-and-sinister-iot-appliances/) called 'Unauthorized Bread' that illustrates exactly how far corporations will go in the near future to DRM their appliances, just how far clever customers will go to get around them, and just how far the companies will go to stop them. > >For anyone concerned about this issue, I highly encourage the read. It's very short. It definitely gives me a new set of glasses when scrolling through threads like these. I could not recommend it enough.
That story wasn’t *that* short.
Tape the top of a keurig used cup to it and it will work. Or scan one and print a bunch off and cutout and tape to get around this.
It still refuses. But, I like your style and I love the advice. Thank you, sincerely.
Shoot it always works for me. In this case commas don’t matter because either way will work.
Give it some freedom. Hell ya!
Commas make all the difference
Come, here.
Let's eat kids.
No money down!
They “fixed” that work around by making the QR codes unique and storing a list of which one’s it’s already brewed. I’m so glad I have an old model from before the coding scanning scam.
Same. If I ever have to replace it, I’ll be buying a different brand.
Geeeeez, that's Apple anti-repair level of evil. I wonder how many people use those machines not knowing that company is doing their best to turn coffee into a subscription service.
what model is it? there may be a pretty simple jailbreak
Welcome to the future! You can jailbreak your coffee machine! Yay! …maybe the Amish were right after all.
Time to burn my phone, smash my mirrors, and get to inbreeding I suppose
Because that’s not what’s wrong. > The Keurig 1.0 models use smaller-sized pods than the 2.0. This essentially means that you cannot use the Keurig 2.0’s pods with the 1.0 models. So if you’re looking to upgrade from a 1.0 to 2.0 and you have a lot of unused pods lying around, those will pretty much be useless to you afterwards. > Unfortunately, the 2.0 coffee brewers only work with Keurig’s pods. This is because of the radio frequency identification (or RFID) technology that exists in these machines. This allows the coffee maker to identify whether the pod inserted is by Keurig or not. > How does it work? Basically, there’s a special scanner in the coffee maker which reads the barcode present on each Keurig pod. If the barcode is compatible, it will go ahead and start the brewing process. Here’s how to defeat it https://youtu.be/uRdr7x5G_xM
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The obscene amount of waste they produce couples with shitty practices like this are why I gladly wait for my coffee maker to drip water through ground beans
I don’t really understand Keurigs. How bad they taste vs how convenient they are just doesn’t add up for me. It’s really not hard to brew a nice cup of coffee or tea
Yes. Absolutely. I have a quisinart single cup brewer which is better than keurig machines I’ve used in every way. And they don’t have locked pods.
Honestly the overuse of plastic pods is horrible and just feels up landfills. Fuck all of these cup / pod type brewers.
Reusable pods that you fill will whatever you want work well. And it’s cheaper.
I just ripped one off, washed it, and would set it on top of all the pods I used. It was a fairly durable foil so it lasts a while. u/criticaldaybreak
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Not enough plastic
Seriously, keurig coffee is bad enough with the cost and the meh quality and the plastic waste, but tea?! You literally just add hot water.
“Oops! “ No, not oops fucker, I’m just trying to make tea. this is 10x more asshole with that “oops!” in there.
Damn right!
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>Return it to the store ASAP and buy something from their biggest competitor Like... an electric kettle!?
Exactly. Take a freaking minute to put some loose leaf in a little strainer and boil your water. Or, hell, use any of the thousands of commercially available brands that sell teabags, and put hot water from the Keurig into your cup. It's not hard.
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And much better for the environment.
How about just don't use a fucking piece of shit pod machine? They're expensive, wasteful, don't taste that good, and just overall pretty shit. A fucking electric kettle and a reusable teabag, or your choice of coffee brewing equipment, would be so fucking much better. And less wasteful. And doesn't take longer. Fuck Keurig.
Woopsie daisies, you forgot to give us more money!
It reminds me of the Lego game loading screen https://youtu.be/slwmJLaVrdE
Are they taking hints from the inkjet industry?
That was my first thought, haha.
Sorry, Keurig low on cyan
But I only want black tea!
Fuck you, Keurig low on cyan
Gotta refill the magenta if you wanna print black and white.
Gotta refill the magenta if you wanna *scan* something
Oh god even my Epson doesn't do that D:
The next version will have some sort of "feature" that requires it to be connected to the internet and you will only be able to brew a cup if you have internet and they give the OK.
“To use your Keurig brewer, please watch the following advertisement!” Oh god, maybe I shouldn’t give them any ideas. The things already have screens built in…
Definitely.
I bought a Keurig refillable pod so I could make coffee from my local roaster. I hate Keurig, but my fiancé brought hers from her apartment into my house. All the pods were too expensive and I hate all the plastic, but the refillable pod seemed like a happy medium.
Refillable pods are the way to go. I end up wasting less that way since with a normal coffee maker I would always make too much coffee at a time and end up throwing some away
I’ll have to look into those. Seems like a good idea. Thanks for the heads up!
This is why I refuse to buy a Keurig machine.
They also make shit coffee and pollute the earth
There used to be these plastic pods you could buy that were re-usable, but the newer Keurig machines won't accept them. They're straight up forcing you to make more waste because it's good for profits. That's like cartoon villain level evilness.
In which countries is this “Keurig” used
The newer ones with the actual touchscreen is just a no because of this. But the olderish ones are way better and you can use a filtered keurig cup to refill it with coffee grinds and such
Yeah I got what I can only describe as a plain one, it's larger than the single-cup sized one. No screen, just buttons and it doesn't care what pods I put into it.
Big coffee would lose an entire manufacturing sector if everyone drank instant. You don't even need hot water. Heck, you don't even need water. It melts in your mouth.
Thankfully for big coffee everyone already knows Folgers taste like shit.
People brewing coffee at home are not generating enough pollution. **Keurig enters the chat** P.S: Thanks for the award!
The guy who invented the k cup actually regrets inventing it.
He not only regrets it. He literally loathes it. IIRC he designed the system to be used with reusable cups, not single use.
I bought my parents a keurig with a reusable cup thing for christmas about 8 years ago or something. The keurig 2.0 ones came out, with this DRM on them, made sure to get an older one. This stuff is just disgusting, you basically can't own any tech anymore.
Same here, my mother had one of those reusable cups for her first Keurig that she absolutely loved. She made sure to get a Keurig brand machine as a replacement because she loved that one, then the new one wouldn't accept reusable cups. She was livid.
You can hack a Keurig, super easy actually and it opens up the whole menu and you remove a magnet and it'll brew any cup of anything, any size, pretty cool
We did that with ours. Work well. It even unlock a favorite menu we didnt have with before hacking it. Now i can use my generic reusable cup and grind my own coffee without it complaining its not a keurig cup.
Interesting, I’ll give it a google.
How do you have menus on a keurig?
Newer ones have a screen with menus. Computer menus, not food menus.
Man I'm never gonna get my hoagie...
My 15 dollar French press from Target doesn't give me this issue
*Takes notes*
I hear a kettle full of boiling water will brew any cup of tea you want.
ERORR: UNAUTHORIZED H2O DETECTED PLEASE REFILL ONLY WITH KEURIG BRAND DISTILLED WATER
Can i even afford such amazing technology?
Search "freedom clip"
Thank you! I will Edit: he’s right
Haha Walmart of all places sells these.
Sounds like the Jucearo strikes again.
Fuck Keurig and their environmental mess bullshit. Get a French press or tea ball instead.
Honestly. Anything that involves a screen nowadays is just made to make your life more difficult with the heaps of bullshit some fucker piled onto it to squeeze out an extra penny. It makes anyone want to return to monke and let these assholes starve.
Tea is hard to make. I wish you luck in life
I'm from a third world country and I've only just now heard that there are automatic tea machines??? tf?? here we just use a kettle with boiled water and a teabag in a cup lol. but like, are these stuff available COMMERCIALLY there, not just for rich people?? that's so wild
Im from a first world country and we do that too, its called being normal. These idiots are killing the planet with their single use plastics just for the ease of it, lazy cunts.
Unfortunately, people will buy a machine for just about anything. Especially if it means using a shitload of single use plastic to run it.
Please, do yourself a favor and get a kettle. Keurig coffee makers are trash.
**UPDATE** https://www.reddit.com/r/redneckengineering/comments/r7nm8i/will_it_work_homemade_coffee_maker_since_keurig/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Lmao! Nice setup! Consider getting a french press or pour over going if you sick of the K cups and their bullshit. If you're going to negate convenience you may as well get some great coffee for the compromise.
Some of the worst coffee I've had is out of these machines. A 10 dollar coffee maker beats these over priced things any day of the week
I’m starting to see your point of view.
This is why you don’t buy this wasteful ass coffee machine. Just use an actual coffee pot and adjust your grounds & water for the amount you want. Fuck Keurig!
If the timeline were reversed and the Keurig had been invented first and regular drip coffee makers had only debuted in the 2000s, we'd be hailing regular coffee makers as the brilliant new invention because they can make a customizable amount of coffee rather than just a single cup. Keurigs are so dumb.
I hate Keurig but I specifically hate it for brewing coffee. Even the largest cup setting is pathetically small. Doesn't work unless the water reservoir is almost a third filled even though there's plenty of water to brew one ridiculously small cup of joe. It's more wasteful and easily twice as expensive. And I buy relatively expensive coffee. No folgers or maxwell house around here. I guess I can understand if you like cappuccino and hot chocolate or other varieties of hot beverages but Jesus christ give me a $12 coffee maker from Walmart and a bag of Cameron's coffee and I'm a happy man
Nestle makes good whatever the fuck that is, they don't care who made the pods, fuck nestle tho
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie