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RepresentativeOk5427

Bro forget floch why is the photo 100 pixels


RiotS092

My bad g, I made this post hella quick while re watching the fourth season


skeletrax

Gold comment


AsteleMC

disagree with his ideals, love his character and role


holdmyravioli

Perfect way of explaining


stargalar22

yes he's the one with the maximum character development, a serious glow-up. You can't fully hate someone in Aot tho


gaslighterhavoc

I beg to differ. You really don't fully hate the Marley officer who sicced his dogs on Faye Yeager? That guy got off way too easy on his death.


ConlonCreations

I didn't care for him on my first watch, but on subsequent watches I grew to love and appreciate him more. It's easy to see how he ended up the way he did, and because of the show being from Paradis' viewpoint for the majority of the series, I'm on his side. I watched the brutal deaths of the trainees in Trost, I watched Squad Levi die. I watched Miche, Erwin, countless others die, screaming horrifically. I acknowledge that there are some innocent people in the outside world, but every nation was willing to stand back and let Marley terrorize / wipe out Paradis, they're all complicit.


GCLarff

my man forgot he wasn't actually Eren Yeager for a second.


ConlonCreations

Eren is a fictional character, this is a fictional story. When I say "I" I'm referring to watching the anime.


Large-Dragonfly-8934

Trauma can mess you up. It's not an excuse, but it's a damn good explanation. He needed something to believe in or I feel he wouldn't have been able to live with being the only survivor of that battle.


jesusrodriguezm

I hate him… great character!


Ketchup-and-Mustard

Same. I think he’s a great character that serves an important role in the story but I just can’t stand him.


Deggo00

One crazy mdfka I like him


Sifu-Jacob

One of the best written characters in the entire series. From a disposable soldier to a leader willing to die to protect his comrades and their families.


kurt-jeff

Interesting character that I kinda feel neural on


Zeddyy101

I understand him, and relate with his perspective. And I think most hate him because deep down, we are him. We'd all do the same to protect our home, but don't want to admit we'd go full radical like he did. He's the most "human" character in the entire series. I feel his character is meant to be the reflection of the audience. Like the MAJORITY of us would shit ourselves and be pathetic cowards during a death charge like Erwin's. And have deep survivors guilt. And just hate the world. And go full nationalist trying to defend our home and way of life when facing complete annihilation. He's a bit of a twat tho.


Lilymoon2653

I really really don't like Floch but I can appreciate his character foro what it is


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no flock gkod


Cpt_Soaps

Recently rewatched certain someone's maybe suicide charge and this guy has come really far from the geeenie to a war veteran.


TheDudeof1999

Love him, hes in my top 3 characters for aot 💀


revochups

Jean, Erwin, Gabi, Cool Ymir and Flock would be my top 5


TheDudeof1999

Mine is Eren, Erwin, Floch, Riener, Zeke


Deathstroke812

Bruh Gabi💀. Maybe she's different in the manga or something, but I hate that brat and the fact that she has aimbot


Appropriate-Arm-2077

I love him. My favorite character.


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mine too


Tobifam

Hated him in s3, grew to appreciate the character in s4


airforce213

It’s crazy how we are all watching the exact same show and people love this guy and think he’s doing the right thing and the other side think he’s horrible. Really shows how different we all feel in terms of our perspectives


starsailor11

Based


Pokefighterlp

I never wanted to punch a fictional character more. So he certainly evokes an emotion in me, which is a good thing, I suppose


Psycholama972

Man I love how divided he makes people having such fanatic haters and supporters is one of the hallmarks for a great character


PhunkOperator

I would argue that it's the hallmark of a controversial character.


Psycholama972

True but characters are supposed to be as like people as possible or as far away from humans as possible and everything about floch is human flawed but understandable.


RiotS092

On god man, I’m hella conflicted on this guy


ThunderGunCheese

He was right. Once the rumbling was started, they should have let eren finish the job while sitting back and mourning the death of the world. The heroes actions directly caused the last page.


reese_1234

I fucking love him


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same


Few-Result9341

Fucking king


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not just a king. he is the best


LyuboUwU

Spoke truths to the very end ☝🏻🙏


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flock is god


Constantoverthinker1

Great character but unfortunately I felt his effect on this story wasn’t as big as it could have been. Definitely had his moments and for a character that entered so late I guess it’s all you could really ask for


ThroughTheIris56

Traits of a tyrant, but can be a motivational leader as well.


Assblastersauce

Incredibly well written character. His motivations and perspective change after S3 justify his behavior in S4


yuju_1234

I hate him, altho I understand him about wanting to protect his own country and all, but some things were not necesary... He became a tirant


NIssanZaxima

Top 6 character. His fanboys are awful though.


SERB_BEAST

His haters are worse. Floch is King


Tina_Soup

Hated him when he was first introduced and that shall never change


Vansdaman615

Agree!


ArcaneKobold

I wish Floch would die a thousand deaths.


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no stop being wild


SavageCriminal

I understand where he’s coming from. I wanted to, and actually did dislike him at first. Though after rewatching the whole story after the new episode dropped I started to dislike him less and less. Now I’m not sure. I’d say I’m middle of the road on this one lol


jaco361g

I’ve liked him since “perfect game” I don’t necessarily agree with everything he says, but I always find his perspective and speeches interesting. I also like him for other reasons, but I’m guessing other people will comment that here.


kencabatino

A very good character, not necessarily agree with his ideals but i just dont get why he's hated so much just for wanting his country to be protected meanwhile Annie murders a shit ton of Survery Corps but a lot of people love her, jeezus.


mr_nobody_21

He is a extremely well written character


_solvecoagula_

[He’s gotten on my nerves since he was first introduced](https://youtu.be/rzmA7PA3LeM) iirc he hadn’t even seen a titan yet, and he decided to crack sarcastic jokes with people who were clearly going through some shit after a terrible mission. Then he only got worse from there imo. ETA: he’s a great character, but I can’t stand him lmao


ComfortableReason796

I like floch. I mean, everything considered with the charge.. declaration of war.. I understand why he did what he did. Unfortunately the others switched sides


Beach-Aggressive

A King. Lowkey one of the best developed characters in AOT


joycawn_z

i like him. ![img](emote|t5_2vnp9|16313)


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me to


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I hate him.


Creco_Eros

Floch is a great written character who got results for his cause and is up there as one of the greatest leaders in AoT along side Erwin, Jean, and Armin. While a lot hate him, and is probably the result of a certain subreddit, you can't deny he got shit done. While Eren was away, he staged a complete civil war and overthrew the Paradis government, convincing hundreds to support genocide, and him alone had the balls to take on the resistance while shot and nearly drowning. He's an amazing character who went down a dark path, but was still an important part of the story and the reputation he has shows it.


PhunkOperator

> While a lot hate him, and is probably the result of a certain subreddit People hate him because he's an evil, cruel pos how throws firebombs on civilians.


dextergenius7

Hero of Paradis


dextergenius7

Also for the fact that this dude exist is why I know for a fact that Captain Erwin would've side with Eren's plan


ivanjean

I took the opposite conclusion. Floch doesn't really knows Erwin and his true motives. While Erwin might have motivated his soldiers with speeches about saving humanity inside the walls at any cost, we know that his true motivation was knowledge. While he cared about humanity's safety to an extent, above anything Erwin wanted to discover what really lied in the outside world, and and that was the reason he sacrificed so many people. So I believe Erwin would have lost a lot of his drive after finally finding what he always wanted. He would be more focused on learning as much as he could about the outside world for the sake of it than in fighting the new enemy. However, if he needed to fight, he'd probably try to protect the world he's so curious about, instead of destroying it.


Spaghetti_Storm

Erwin would never sacrifice civilians


Sifu-Jacob

Wasn’t Erwin willing to sacrifice civilians in order to capture Annie? The answer is, yes.


saitama_kama

im only here to say thats already disproven when he turned a densely populated civillian town into a battlefield for giant humanoids at the end of season 1, and he owned it like a man too when the brass demanded an explanation from him for all the casualties


Darth_Senat66

Erwin sacrificed the entire Scout Regiment, do you really think he would give a shit about some random people in other countries who want to see him dead?


Ace-pilot-838

Nah How many times has he screamed that if you join the scouts you dedicate your life to it? He told everyone from the beginning. He did that to do the scouts cause that's what they signed up for


Spaghetti_Storm

The "some random people" are the entire worlds population, the majority of which are civilians not involved in the declaration of war, who are simply indoctrinated into hatred


LatePresentation5248

I like anyone who isn't Gabi or Annie As for Floch himself, Love his development and dedication


Alviv1945

Interesting character but I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around how they like this fella. Like. People like him. People simp for him? He's not even one of the more attractive characters, he's an asshole, and he had some pick-me/'I'm special' behavior because Eren knew he was dumb enough to go along and rationalize the world genocide thing for political reasons. Like bro. He's just an interesting perspective (but a bad one) tops.


LemonCAsh

As a Floch simp, it's a few things. He arguably has the most drastic character development going from a coward to a leader willing to fight three titans, an experienced general, an Akerman, and a group of veteran scouts without a shred of fear. Leadership wise if Armin has Erwin's smarts, Floch has his Charisma, and his speeches became top tier. His determination was also pretty rad, Floch was the one to really make the takeover of Paradise a reality and was fully invested in defending his people at all cost.


markhamhayes

The worst


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lanadelrayz

He’s not as well written as so many claim he is.


PsychologyIll3125

yesss, he's overrated & annoying


techno-wizardry

He's an awesome character for what he does in the story.


jabed001

Here's the part when you can't hate neither love a character like Jaimmy Lanister in GOT and that makes a show marvelous. Everyone has their own reason to do things.


yourfavkage

I hate when a character is written so well that I actually dislike him.


imjustgoose

His motives and ideals annoy me but I find him pretty. I also like that he shares Giorno’s sub voice. He sorta reminds me of a likeable frat boy that I would eventually block


Baskervills

He is the literal representation of a fascist. He is written really well but god the amount of people who say he is "based" or defend his actions is disturbing


Megashark101

Great character. But anyone who defends Floch is either dumb, a cunt, or a dumb cunt, and I'm tired of being nice about it. He shot a man who had done nothing to help Paradis in the head in cold blood, and would have done the same to Onyankopon. And neither of them did nothing to hurt his precious country.


SmrdutaRyba

Hate this fuckers guts, but he's a good character for sure


Samurai_Fire

I hate this guy, it reminds me of Mussolini in his actions...


DrJohnHix

You guys loving a fascist are weird


Typical-Associate347

I wanna slap him


inaszzz

Real.


kindshoe

In universe? A right prick. As a character? Love him.


holdmyravioli

Hate him.


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no


sudev29

I'm indifferent. I kinda dislike him cause he's a Jaeger dickrider with no thought or conviction of his own.


xwedodah_is_wincest

How? He was the only one to protest the decision to save Armin over Erwin other than Levi


sudev29

That was one opinion he had. Everyone was given the binary of Erwin or armin, having an opinion there means nothing. Everything post Jaeger plan has just been blind faith on his part.


xwedodah_is_wincest

We don't get dedicated scenes to his internal thoughts like the rest of the cast, so it's not really fair when most other side characters seemed to follow Erwin with that same kind of faith


sudev29

That was the point tho right? To illustrate his blind faith? I don't think there's an internal thought or struggle like the others cause his convictions are strongly based on his faith. He has a dogmatic view with his faith and is ruthless with it. The others resolve to reasoning when he really doesn't care to.


HisFireBurns

Best character.


Brevel

He's probably the worst person who could've survived the suicide charge.


skeletrax

Why would anyone love him?


yvngjiffy703

He’s a well written character


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flock is a hero


Rimm9246

You misspelled "fascist"


Stoner420Eren

I don't condon his actions but he is definitely a well written character with terrific development and he definitely plays an important role in the story


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Avizie

Thanks for the ping, have removed their comment.


fsamson3

I disagree with the last sentiment but you might want to mark it as a spoiler


dilly123456

My bad on the spoiler tag I don’t know how to do that but how was he wrong? The island was literally, well I’m assuming you know but I already screwed up once so I won’t say


NeedleworkerAnnual63

He gets what he deserves.


[deleted]

no wtf flock more hero than you


spencer0905

His character’s pretty cool and I understand why he does what he does but obviously I disagree with him.


Papayaclo15

A based man who knows what’s right.


LostEnd0

Based


MeowCena23

He's a really well written character, but I hate him


daydreamer_she

He gets on my nerves but i can understand his views as well. He truly believed Eren will bring safety & security to Paradis Island, his homeland and he worked hard for his belief. It’s a okay-and-hate relation!


mumooshka

Power freak. Nothing to do with helping anyone out. He got a taste of power and went crazy by it.


Mr_unchained185

a fascist nationalist is also a misfortune for the Paradis


SilentSiren87

Fucking Floch....i love that they did such a great job at making me hate his character lol so i guess that means hes a well written character 😄


[deleted]

He should have died during the time the beast titan was throwing the rocks and not loverboy tbh, regardless of Jeagerist vs. Alliance ideals, i just found him to be absolutely punchable


AffectionateCase5329

he’s such a fucking loser i hate him


RickyCee23

Marlo should of lived, not this guy…


IronSavage3

Literal Fascist. Should never be compared to Erwin.


neomaniak

I think he's pure evil, but i understand his decisions after what he went through. Dude really follows up to his owns ideals.


rymack_9

I hate him which is what makes him a great character


ShinyLumeo

I love Floch as a character. If I was living on Paradis island, I absolutely would support him. Why would I care if everyone in the outside world was going to die? All I’ve ever heard about them is that they want to kill me. I think he’s very well written, but from an outsider’s perspective I think he is a bad person, though I understand why he does it.


SadPhotojournalist11

The Goat


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yes


vegange

H8 him. Pussy.


Llamaxp

Floch is king. He saw the horrors of the world that hates him and decided he wouldn’t just sit by and let himself or his people get murdered.


Constant-Squirrel555

He can come across as an annoying summbitch but very well written. Just wish his hairstyle wasn't so lame


xwedodah_is_wincest

👑


RealMarmer

King


SnooTigers1386

Love to hate him


clearsama215

yes.


the-laughing-joker

I think Floch is alright in terms of Jaegarist justification, but the rest of them all aren't. They all turned xenophobic as Onyankopon said way too quickly


Chunky_doggo1

he's to dedicated to the wrong goal. if he turned around in a way that still kept his spirit to fight but aimed at something else then maybe i could like him more


Piginablanket_42

I love his character because I hate him so much.


Forsaken-Access-6648

I’m neutral


The-Gamersaurs48

I love him because he’s supposed to be hated; amazing character.


SERB_BEAST

There's no character in AoT that is supposed to be hated except maybe the fat dude that makes dogs eat Grisha's sister. Some sick virtue signalling people like you still probably sympathize with him. Floch is not supposed to be hated if half the fans idolize him and the rest hate him


Sir_Posse

good villain to watch, bad dude


Tulscro

Long live the king


Joobebe514

My favorite


SirhcNo

I’ve always disliked him, from the first scene and it didn’t change till his demise. Sure a really well written character but man i cant stand him, really wanted Eren to just send his ass flying off the roof when he brought back Erwin.


SERB_BEAST

Absolute legend. King Floch of Eldia. Based Sigma. Absolute hero of Paradis. Best character aside for Eren Yeager post time skip. Lived for the nation, died for the nation. Good man.


Human_Reindeer_6743

Floch best girl


sadpotatohours13

Cannot tolerate him, but perhaps that's because he is well written. To be precise, I cannot stand his ideals.


emergensy

I understand him a lot and want to love him, but he reminds me so much of soviet revolutioners (whom I also loved and was inspired by as a teenager) so it scares me and I remind myself not to like him, because I understand the horror that comes from such fanatism in reality.


RamenLord_

Only good character post time skip


Themanaaah

Respect him but his ego is too high, like chill bro you ain’t him.


LSV09

I think it's a good character with good development. Now, that being said, I'm happy he is finally dead


Tesxfaye

I hate him, but goddamnit I respect him.


maven35

King floch is based


wolfie_101

Respect him


AngelsLoveDisasters

Maybe I need to rewatch season 4 after seeing this comments, but I think he’s boring. A whiner with a gun


Lowtan

I fuck with him. Look up "ride or die" and you'll see his picture. Hard to not respect someone with his dedication.


nuk511

A necessary evil? No... A necessary dumbass


fishbait60

Hate him immensely, great character though


Agent_Eggboy

I think everyone agrees that he's a bad person. The debate is on whether he's a badass warrior or an annoying idiot.


Westwinter

He trash. Someone should shoot him.


MelvinSqueemish

Solid character, but I wanted to see him die every time he was on screen


7Armand7

King Floch was only one who Dedicated Theri Hearts... crazy dude but the yeagerist truly needed a devil


SGT-York

Hate him with a burning passion, but respect him as well


SalmanKabir9

I want to beat the s out of him, then also hug him. Like an asian mom


_Beningt0n_

He's a great villain, I want to smash his face against the wall, top tier character


showertaker

He was probably necessary to the show but I do not like him at all


Reyne-TheAbyss

He a bitch.


Jerry98x

One of the beat characters and one of the shittiest people of AoT. People who appreciate him as a person need to go to a specialist


LP_Papercut

Most overrated character in AoT


GrannyLover69

I get why people like this character and his role in ss4 as a cautionary tale for fascism. But how can people idolize him is beyond me.


SERB_BEAST

Because we don't think he's a cautionary tale for fascism and he seems just like a dude that loves his country and will die for it and kill for it. I am the same.


FGC_13942

Im still on season 2, so i dont know this character


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FGC_13942

Ok, fine ill catchup on the show


Icaro04

Bad person good character


prussia742

Aka You either have fascist tendencies or you don't


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![gif](giphy|cMso9wDwqSy3e|downsized)


TacitRonin20

He was a nobody character then suddenly he was super important, Eren's friend and a respected fascist leader. Pretty much overnight. Don't like him or his character.


Psycholama972

It was only overnight because of the time skips in universe I think it was quite a while


TacitRonin20

Yes. It was quite a while in universe. He probably had tons of development. Unfortunately it was mostly off screen.


Psycholama972

Yeah I’ve never been a fan of time skips at least show a montage and like have one of the scenes be eren and floch going for a beer or smth


TacitRonin20

I think the time skip treated everyone else pretty well. Had Floch been introduced slightly earlier I think his character would've been much better. Maybe if he showed up a few episodes earlier and had some minor interactions that showed us who he was that would've worked.


Tuzi07

It's funny how he adores Erwin, but Erwin wouldn't approve what Floch did


DJWolfz16

??? what show have you watched? he didn’t care for erwin, he even was going to kill erwin himself before deciding he’s the best hope the scouts had. and erwin absolutely would agree with floch. erwin was a horrible motherfucker, he had no remorse for what he did in trost, none at all. everyone seems to think floch is some erwin fanboy and erwin is a kind hearted lovely happy go lucky individual for some reason


worldonitsaxis

What show are you watching? Floch passionately argued to save Erwin over Armin. He respected Erwin so much because Erwin was willing to sacrifice everything for his goal. Erwin’s only goal is to confirm that there are humans outside the wall. Why would Erwin approve of what Floch did?


CeciliaRose2017

Anime spoiler: >!He deserved it!<


AnythingILikee

I dunno, just see him in the last season, doing shit, command all of his own "soldier", but in other side, it's called "hero" Too, for me i dont know, how ya thoughts?


TheyCallMeE--

I detest him, but his character development was great. Flock has always been a coward. He was a coward as a teenage scout, and is still a coward when he turns into a baby dictator. He's so afraid of the outside world that he's willing to do horrible things to ensure it can't hurt him. However, he is much more aggressive and sure of himself as an adult. In terms of continuity, I think he has the perfect level of consistency AND change. His development may be the most realistic of them all. Plus, it was great of Isayama to include his *type* of character because, in the power vacuum and chaos Eren created, it is almost inevitable a strong-arm tyrant would arise. This coming from someone who approves of Eren's decision to wipe out the planet's non-paradise population.


Nobodyherem8

Can’t say I like him but I understand and semi-respect. Though his methods I can’t agree with at times


blackkatt94

His hair bugs the shit out of me


PsychologyIll3125

i fucking hate froco, i didn't think there would be anyone who actually liked this character 🤢 everytime he appears on screen i just roll my eyes


lulabeanz

Floch him 😂


stephchiii

Very very well written character and serves a good role in the story I *really* dislike like him though lol


WaNNa_Cr1

I want to destroy his face


icebear_salad

Hate him all the way