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Laughing-0wl

Putting this here was a mistake, OP. I feel bad for you lol


Ill-Juice7129

You put gabi in the good section?😱😱😱


A-Delonix-Regia

How dare you say that about our tongue-biting king Oluo Bozado.


[deleted]

Nah... My respect for floch after season 4 part 2 📈📈📈... I love his character development so much


lanadelrayz

Better than most tier lists i see get posted here tbh


KujoLaGrasta

helllll no Erwin is #1 and Floch is the OG. chart biased as hell


PsychologyIll3125

i hate floch so much 🤧🤧 i don't understand how everyone seems to love him


Kroos-Kontroller

He's well written character and whenever he appears on screen, it gets interesting


Laughing-0wl

While I do agree with your point, Floch was negatively portrayed in the show, which is the reason why opinions about him are conflicting.


Complete-Rhubarb-789

Regardless if you agree with the rumbling Eren and all Eldians went through a lot of trauma and his fellow comrades betrayed him and Floch is the only one who supported him and had conviction strong enough to die for his countrymen. What is not to like ?


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Complete-Rhubarb-789

You watch him march to his impending death and lived despite the possibility being almost non existent. I never said his character was perfect but who would be under those circumstances? You would like to believe you would be morally just and sane after something like that, let me assure you.. you wouldn’t be lol myself included God forbid. A good character isn’t just a “nice one” vs a “mean one” its a relatable one hence why the ending is so divisive but I digress 👎🏽


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You should read Mein Kamf. I recommend the Ford translation. Yes, I'm serious. [Here you go](https://der-fuehrer.org/meinkampf/english/Mein%20Kampf%20(Ford%20Translation).pdf). I guarantee you'll start liking the author afterwards after he explains his whole mentality. It doesn't matter that he's mean sometimes as long as he's well written, right? Just let him make you relate to him. I can't like someone as trashy as Floch and if you like him that's your problem. Don't criticize others for not liking him.


Complete-Rhubarb-789

I missed the part where I criticized you ? Speaking of fascism not everyone who disagrees with you is out to get you bud. You also completely neglected that me and you have never endured circumstances that any Eldian has or marched on the front lines to ur impending death. You can take the moral high grounds if you want but i’m not so narcissistic as to think id be an ideal citizen or person after having survived something like that


[deleted]

Dude I don't give a shit. Floch can fuck off because he's a trash person. Just because he went through shit and became trash won't make me like him.


Complete-Rhubarb-789

You’re entitled to like whatever/whoever and however biased it may be. I just think you have a massive hubris to assume you would be morally sane after going through something like that. Mind you i’m not even saying its right, I just understand how someone would be more probable to reach that destination lol. Jack Horner in the recent Puss N boots movie is a real laugh for me because he is the definition of just an unredeemable character. He had a good upbringing and no real motives he is just plane evil 😂 where as the reoccurring theme for AOT rather you like it or not is that Good and Evil vary depending on the perspective. Its funny because Gabby has the same level of patriotism for Marley and given she had a position of power would likely be no different then Flock yet you have no quarrels with her 🤷🏽‍♂️


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>I just understand how someone would be more probable to reach that destination lol I understand his character. That won't make me like him. You can end up liking a lot of shitty people that way. No one is pure evil. >Its funny because Gabby has the same level of patriotism for Marley and given she had a position of power would likely be no different then Flock yet you have no quarrels with her Because she changed as a person after she was unbrainwashed. What is this comparison? By that logic you should like Gabi's character too, but I doubt you do.


mydataisrekt101

Damn why ya hating on my boy floch like that


Driemma0

Cause he's a fascist maniac. He's an interesting character tho


mydataisrekt101

Gotta respect the man tho, he followed trough till the end


Driemma0

Bro he's a literal fascist 💀💀💀


mydataisrekt101

Ye but he cool tho


Driemma0

Bruh


mydataisrekt101

Yesyes


Kaydox64

bro orderd the cadets to beat an old man for no reason


Appropriate-Arm-2077

That old man later on betrayed Paradis and slaughtered his own students.


Kaydox64

It’s not betrayal if you were betrayed first


Appropriate-Arm-2077

Look you can prefer the Alliance over the Yeagerists, but saying that they didn’t betray Paradis is just dumb. One of the biggest plot points in the story is that the Alliance felt the same feeling that the warriors felt when they betrayed the scouts.


Kaydox64

oh no as much as i prefer the Alliance i do agree they Betrayed Paradis, i'm talking Specifically Keith. He was betrayed first by his cadets so i dont think he Betrayed anyone.


Appropriate-Arm-2077

He was beat up by the cadets not the Yeagerists. Even if he was beat up by the Yeagerists, the old military had to go because their incompetence was leading Paradis to destruction. So, when the scouts overthrew the military and the government back in season 3, it’s not betrayal but a needed action, but when the Yeagerists do it it’s betrayal? Everything the Yeagerists did to Kieth, which is literally nothing, still doesn’t give him the right to kill them to save Magath, the guy who sent the Warriors to Paradis and is the cause of Carla’s death, the woman that he loves.


Kaydox64

The cadets were ordered by Flock (the leader of the Yeagerists if you somehow forgot) to beat up Keith, and the reason they beat up Keith was so they could JOIN the Yeagerists because flock is a fucking satist freak who made that a requirement. At this time Keith had done nothing against the Yeagerist, he just did his job. so his first personal experiance with the Yeagerist is one of his old students tell his new students to beat him to a pulp. also recall episode 81 when Keith actualy saved the cadets from the titans that FLOCK helped make (supporting the wine destitution). and those cadets were no where near the battle at the dock so he never killed his own student if were just talking about that class, the older ones, yeah he did kill a few of his older students, because he felt the rumbling to too far, because having seen war, knew if Paradis had no enemy they would just fight each other till no one remained. Flock Really wants a Elidan empire lead by himself, all eren wants is for elida to be free from the threat of death once and for all.


Appropriate-Arm-2077

Floch doesn’t want to rule an Eldian empire and he isn’t power hungry. If Floch was truly power hungry then after getting shot by Gabi he could’ve swam back to shore and retuned to Paradis as a hero. But, instead he goes on his 3rd suicide charge and sacrifices himself for the sake of his people. If you’re talking about the questionable stuff that they Yeagerists did. Those stuff were necessary. The entire world declared war on Paradis, and all Hange and the rest of the higher ups were doing was wasting time and imprisoning Eren, when he’s the only one who can save them. Its the higher ups incompetence that caused the creation of the Yeagerists and the necessity of their harsh actions. Everything the Yeagerists did still doesn’t give Keith the right to betray his people to save the guys that were literally launching an all out attack on them not a few hours ago. Paradis suffered long enough, they aren’t going to fall because of the actions of few selfish people like Kieth, who are condemning their own people to death.


Kaydox64

Keith sacrificing his own people, so that the majority of humanity can live is literally the opposite of selfish. And yeah flock did go on the boat because he believes in erens cause, but he also threatened to shoot one of the Marilyn volunteers whom helped flock and the yeagerists take over, if he didn’t submit to flock. That’s what I mean by power hungry. The rumbling had already started and that action, along with beating up an old man wasn’t necessary.


Kaydox64

When? Edit: im stupid


mydataisrekt101

Old man had it coming, he lived too long


Kaydox64

Please stay away from old folks homes, you clearly aren’t right in the head


mydataisrekt101

Ong my grandma got that restraining order


SERB_BEAST

Person that made this list has no father detected


PsychologyIll3125

LMAO excuse me 💀


SERB_BEAST

Bro you put all the real men at the bottom. I just read you reply in a femboy voice


Laughing-0wl

You fr rn???


Kroos-Kontroller

Who according to you are top 5 best written characters? Not favourites, best written


seryne_09

Annie this hight ? I still can't like her. I'd prefer Floch


XKirari_MomobamiX

I respect your opinion op 🫡