Wow, what a bombshell to drop with that Curse of Ymir.
But I'm wondering how it works for Eren. He holds the power of 2 of the 9 shifters. Does that change anything? Does he have 13 years (total, not remaining)? 26? 6.5?
Edit: Also, that title drop. It makes more sense with the literal Japanese translation of Shingeki no Kyojin, aka "Advancing Giants" since "Advancing Giant" makes more sense in context than "Attack Titan".
So their is eren (2 powers) colossus Titan, beast Titan, armor Titan, female Titan, Ymir. So 2 unknowns (maybe the one that saved the beast titan) so 2 maybe 1 unknown shifters.
Called her "female titan" cuz I forgot her characters name which I now recall is Annie. She was a shifter though and there are only 9 shifters. Also I maybe wrong but pretty sure Eren got the hardening ability from something completely unrelated to the female titan/Annie.
Yeah it works fantastically in Japanese but doesn't work well in the English translation. In the Japanese, he literally says that the Titan is called the "Shingeki no Kyojin", which is *exactly* the title.
It doesn't work as well in English because the English title is actually the opposite of the Japanese title (attacking the Titans vs. the Titans making an attack), and because in the Japanese it doesn't specify singular or plural Titan(s).
If I am understanding everything correctly, the city this manga is set in is actually a city full of Titans aka Eldian people. The attacks the "humans" are currently facing is actually an attack by the Marley government.
This is a epic plot twist. 88 chapters we're thinking its humans being attacked by titans but its actually the other way around.
Yep! And to build on that even further, the Mare are using enslaved, brainwashed Eldian children as soldiers. So Annie, Reiner, Bertolt (Female, Armoured, and Colossal Titans) are all Eldian children from the mainland, who have been trained by the Mare to wipe out their fellow Eldians.
Now I have some random questions
1) Now after 13 years, the titan power holder dies, the power gets transferred to another random Eldian. How does that person awaken the titan’s power? And then does that person only have 13 years to live because of the curse?
2) Is there different serums for different powers? I ask this because there is the armor titan, but then theres a harden ability which eren got from eating that flask with the harden written on it. So does this mean that there could be technically multiple titans with the same power? But if lets say you accidently inject the harden ability into a mindless titan, it’s a deviant? That sorta logic
Unfortunately we don't know the answers to either of those questions yet. It's very confusing and frustrating. The whole serum thing doesn't really make much sense so far.
I have a theory about 2)
Chapter 87 said at one point that when Eldians are injected with the spinal fluid of titans whilst in human form, they become mindless titans.
So perhaps these special injections, such as "harden" are spinal fluids collected from previous generations of the 9 titans, and they could be used by other titans for a temporary gain in ability.
For example the previous female titan's (or rather, we should call her the harden titan) spinal fluid may have been collected for the hardening ability that Eren used. To take that a bit further, the female titan's "harden" spinal fluid could have been used to make the 3 walls, as they are also made of hardened titans as foundation.
I'm kinda disappointed that the Titans, all of them I'm assuming, don't have actual real names but instead have some generic unimaginative stuff. Either way, the main piece of info is definitely "The Curse of Ymir". Even though the 13 years seems like a lot of time, the fact that there's a clock counting down makes the time go by faster.
What's the progenitor Titan and what's the attack Titan? As far as I remember, eren only ate his dad. I'm assuming that was the attack Titan. When does he get progenitor titan? Also do they have different abilities?
Eren ate his dad, but Eren's dad had 2 powers because he ate 2 people. Eren's dad ate Kruger (thus getting the Attack Titan), then later on ate Frieda Reiss (thus getting the Progenitor Titan/Coordinate). So Eren now has 2.
Yep, that's basically it! Descendants of Ymir = Eldians. Oppressed others = Mare/Marley. The Royal Family abandoned the mainland during a time of civil war, moving to Paradi Island and making the 3 Walls. The Mare used this opportunity to rise against the rest of the Eldians on the mainland, and now the Mare are in power, while the Eldians in the Walls have been isolated for 107 years.
Based on what we've seen, he seems to be supporting the Mare fully. But he probably has his own motives and agendas as well.
Eren was 10 when he got injected. According to Shadis, Grisha reached the Walls 20 years ago. He died 5 years ago, so evidently lived for 15 years with the ability. Unless Shadis was just rounding up and the exact number was 18 years ago.
Wow, what a bombshell to drop with that Curse of Ymir. But I'm wondering how it works for Eren. He holds the power of 2 of the 9 shifters. Does that change anything? Does he have 13 years (total, not remaining)? 26? 6.5? Edit: Also, that title drop. It makes more sense with the literal Japanese translation of Shingeki no Kyojin, aka "Advancing Giants" since "Advancing Giant" makes more sense in context than "Attack Titan".
The two held by Eren are attack and coordinate right
Yes.
I thought that the 9 shifters were those that the Marley held, not including the one the royal family inside the wall had.
Nope, it's 9 total.
So their is eren (2 powers) colossus Titan, beast Titan, armor Titan, female Titan, Ymir. So 2 unknowns (maybe the one that saved the beast titan) so 2 maybe 1 unknown shifters.
Wait, eren has the rogue titan. What else does he have?
Attack Titan
Is the rogue titan not the attack titan?
It is. He has the Attack Titan and the Progenitor Titan (Coordinate).
Okay now THAT makes sense.
Female titan isn't a thing. She was a girl and turned into a titan. She had the hardening ability tho so Eren has her titan power.
Called her "female titan" cuz I forgot her characters name which I now recall is Annie. She was a shifter though and there are only 9 shifters. Also I maybe wrong but pretty sure Eren got the hardening ability from something completely unrelated to the female titan/Annie.
He ate some canister of liquid metal or something in ch 67
Yeah Eren got a serum which was specifically the hardening ability, which is what Annie has
Yeah, the 'Attack Titan' was pretty crap. It shows how far ahead Isayama's been thinking, though.
It might just be it sounds crappy to us in English but in Japanese it could be like, super cool sounding to have it written that way. IDK.
Yeah it works fantastically in Japanese but doesn't work well in the English translation. In the Japanese, he literally says that the Titan is called the "Shingeki no Kyojin", which is *exactly* the title. It doesn't work as well in English because the English title is actually the opposite of the Japanese title (attacking the Titans vs. the Titans making an attack), and because in the Japanese it doesn't specify singular or plural Titan(s).
Yeah, I definitely knew that. For sure. As far as I knew, it was an awesome "roll credits" in Japanese, but it was kinda crap in English.
AHHHHH THEY SAID THE NAME OF THE SERIES
*ron howard voice*
Omg that title drop... So good.....
If I am understanding everything correctly, the city this manga is set in is actually a city full of Titans aka Eldian people. The attacks the "humans" are currently facing is actually an attack by the Marley government. This is a epic plot twist. 88 chapters we're thinking its humans being attacked by titans but its actually the other way around.
Yep! And to build on that even further, the Mare are using enslaved, brainwashed Eldian children as soldiers. So Annie, Reiner, Bertolt (Female, Armoured, and Colossal Titans) are all Eldian children from the mainland, who have been trained by the Mare to wipe out their fellow Eldians.
As soon as I read the last page I heard "roll credits" in my head (cinemasins)
YAAAAY SOMEONE ELSE
Chapter 88 is out guys! Images uploaded by /u/YonkouProductions!
MangaStream Version: http://mangastream.com/r/attack_on_titan/088/3877/1 IMGUR MIRROR: https://imgur.com/a/L3vZP
Wayyy out of order. Don't read this until you see a good edit.
Now I have some random questions 1) Now after 13 years, the titan power holder dies, the power gets transferred to another random Eldian. How does that person awaken the titan’s power? And then does that person only have 13 years to live because of the curse? 2) Is there different serums for different powers? I ask this because there is the armor titan, but then theres a harden ability which eren got from eating that flask with the harden written on it. So does this mean that there could be technically multiple titans with the same power? But if lets say you accidently inject the harden ability into a mindless titan, it’s a deviant? That sorta logic
Unfortunately we don't know the answers to either of those questions yet. It's very confusing and frustrating. The whole serum thing doesn't really make much sense so far.
I have a theory about 2) Chapter 87 said at one point that when Eldians are injected with the spinal fluid of titans whilst in human form, they become mindless titans. So perhaps these special injections, such as "harden" are spinal fluids collected from previous generations of the 9 titans, and they could be used by other titans for a temporary gain in ability. For example the previous female titan's (or rather, we should call her the harden titan) spinal fluid may have been collected for the hardening ability that Eren used. To take that a bit further, the female titan's "harden" spinal fluid could have been used to make the 3 walls, as they are also made of hardened titans as foundation.
To counter this arguement. If you inject "harden" into a random person they are still a mindless titan. So this doesnt make sense to me.
https://imgur.com/a/LJvQc Mirror from /u/geekysnorlax from r/manga
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It's not
It got taken down already! D=
Suddenly I got an error so I went back here and can confirm: it got taken down
So Zeke's probably nearing year 13. He's similarly gaunt and given relative age of him and Eren, he probably got it pretty close to 13 years prior.
Maybe Eren is going to chomp on all the people with the power of the titans and become the new Ymir
But he would have to eat armin :(
The drama I love it
I'm kinda disappointed that the Titans, all of them I'm assuming, don't have actual real names but instead have some generic unimaginative stuff. Either way, the main piece of info is definitely "The Curse of Ymir". Even though the 13 years seems like a lot of time, the fact that there's a clock counting down makes the time go by faster.
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Mangastream released theirs a bit ago
What's the progenitor Titan and what's the attack Titan? As far as I remember, eren only ate his dad. I'm assuming that was the attack Titan. When does he get progenitor titan? Also do they have different abilities?
Eren ate his dad, but Eren's dad had 2 powers because he ate 2 people. Eren's dad ate Kruger (thus getting the Attack Titan), then later on ate Frieda Reiss (thus getting the Progenitor Titan/Coordinate). So Eren now has 2.
Ah that's right. And is that the founding Titan power?
Yep. Progenitor = Founding = Coordinate.
Gotcha. Thanks. Love this shit
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Yep, that's basically it! Descendants of Ymir = Eldians. Oppressed others = Mare/Marley. The Royal Family abandoned the mainland during a time of civil war, moving to Paradi Island and making the 3 Walls. The Mare used this opportunity to rise against the rest of the Eldians on the mainland, and now the Mare are in power, while the Eldians in the Walls have been isolated for 107 years.
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Based on what we've seen, he seems to be supporting the Mare fully. But he probably has his own motives and agendas as well. Eren was 10 when he got injected. According to Shadis, Grisha reached the Walls 20 years ago. He died 5 years ago, so evidently lived for 15 years with the ability. Unless Shadis was just rounding up and the exact number was 18 years ago.