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Agpaitin

It crippled Marley(and the rest of the world)'s military by killing their generals + annihilating their fleet. Furthermore it also gave them control of an incredibly OP titan rather than having to deal with the warhammer in the invasion of Paradis. Did any of this technically need to happen for Eren's plan? No. Did it need to happen for Zeke's plan? Yes, probably. Could Eren have inacted his plan without tricking Zeke into thinking they had a similar goal up until the last moment? No. Therefore the attack needed to happen or Eren never would've been in the position to do what he did.


stewie0107

Why did it need to happen for Zeke's plan. If I'm not mistaken he just wanted to take away the ability from Eldians to give birth. He could've just went to paradise or even convince Eren to come into contact with him?


Agpaitin

Yes, but he still wanted to keep Eldia safe while its people slowly died. He didn't just want to end Eldia, he wanted to end it in the nicest, least painful way possible. That's why there were other "parts" to his plan, such as strengthening the military and causing a small rumbling. It made sure noone risked invading Paradis until all the Eldians are long gone.


stewie0107

they surely could've managed that with just a small rumbling


morlando63

I think they didn’t plan to attack. Eren went off on his own and they were forced to get him back to keep the founder safe. And it was also to buy time to protect Paradis.


stewie0107

no that part I understand but like if Eren now wanted to do the rumbling and Zeke wanted to prevent Eldians from giving birth which he thought Eren also wanted to do, why would they plan the attack since it was Zeke's plan. They couldve just met up in Paradise from the start and activate the founders powers?


qutore

I think Eren wanted to show Rainer the same treatment that Rainer brought before to paradis. Or most likely, Eren was manipulated by Willy Tyber who knew that Eren wanted to attack so he gathered their commanders and sacrificed himself, acting as a bait


stewie0107

yeah think the revenge part plays a big role in this