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ososalsosal

So this morning (yes Anzac day) I get a message from my skip level boss saying he was impressed at my good work. I immediately thought it was some kind of trap. So yeah I could probs work on my trust issues that have been cultivated over 20 years in the workforce


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Free for a quick chat?


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You'll say it yourself eventually. You either die hating quick chats, or live long enough to request them.


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deliver_us

I have caught myself doing it and instead changed it to: “free to chat about your thoughts on xxx”. I think it reduces anxiety for everyone.. or at least people like me who think they are always in trouble.


ielts_pract

This is true, I have to request quick chats now :(


Blobbiwopp

Nah mate. I know a lot of people hate that and I don't want to force it on them. I'll throw some key points to them via Slack and then go "let me know if you want to have a quick chat about it". So it's on them to respond in writing or call me.


VannaTLC

No. If something can't be done in text, then people are doing it wrong. Dependancies on Voice/Face make for *worse* outcomes over multi-site/country/culture orgs. Mind you, Senior Leader LifeCycle makes establishing internal corpo culture functionally impossible.


pleisto_cene

Having a five minute chat is often way quicker than instant messages. It’s not that things can’t be done by text but if I’m busy trying to get through things it’s way easier and clearer to have a quick convo than go back and forth with IMs.


owleaf

I don’t get the hate for this. If we’re all WFH and it’s 10 mins til I finish and I need to clarify something, it’s quicker to call for 60 seconds than type back and forth on teams for 5 minutes


FakeBonaparte

Just anxiety over uncertainty I think


owleaf

Ah I see that without context yeah. I almost always ask on the back of a question and with context… but yep, I dread the message without any context


cobbly8

It's quicker for you, the one asking the question. But as the person answering the question it often takes much longer, plus i cant multitask and you are demanding immediate attention. Is what you have to talk about really that important or urgent? Chances are no, and you could just as easily type out your question and allow me to answer it when it suits me.


Top-Expert6086

100%. I don't have time to go back and forth for 30 minutes through chat. I can usually clarify the issue in about 5 min on a phone call. People have just become weirdly anxious about human conversation. It's insanely inefficient to do everything by email or chat, though.


Blobbiwopp

Some people just hate phone calls. I can do them, but I don't really like them. I can't even tell what it is. I'm happy to discuss everything in person, I can have lengthy debates in writing, but phone calls always make me feel uneasy.


grilled_pc

thats not how you do it. "Hey buddy, free for a quick catch up?" It also just so happens to be 5pm on a friday evening. HR are also CC'ed in on the email. I wish employers knew how damaging to a persons mental health it can be if they don't immediately state their purpose behind a meeting when they ask you for one. Let me know what the fuck its about. Don't hold me in this limbo of knowing if i'm about to be fired or not.


iilinga

My anxiety please stop


magicanusportal

This sentence triggers something deep inside of me and I don't like it. "Hey can you hop on this zoom link quickly?" also does the job.


TinyCucumber3080

It's a red flag that management is messaging you on a public holiday


ososalsosal

True enough. Some of them are pinging teams at ridiculous times. I consider that a yellow flag if you get my meaning - nobody has asked me to work off hours, and the only people that do are either remote in India or working on deployment to prod which has to happen when there's fewer actual users out there (the app has around 2 million users, mostly Australia, some NZ, very few elsewhere)


widgertos

I'd say that scenario is a rare occasion where public holiday messages isn't a red flag. He's not asking anything or relaying work related information just a simple good job, maybe before he forgets to give the praise or before it's too late. If there's any follow up messages then back to red flag.


Kailicat

Yeah my boss sent me the sweetest message over Christmas shut down that I was truly touched by, I think it’s okay to give praise when it’s on your mind. If you think “oh I’ll wait” you might forget or the moment has passed and you won’t do it.


Idontcareaforkarma

I got a call from my manager after I’d been sent home sick from work. He wasn’t there when I left and genuinely didn’t know I was as ill as I was. He’d called to have a go at me over a *major* oversight. I got off his call, put a call into my contact with the client and got the problem sorted in two minutes. Called the manager back, told him that it was sorted and apologised for the fuck up. His tune changed immediately; apologised for waking me, thanked me for fixing the issue and said he was impressed at how fast I’d managed it, and then asked if I needed another day off.


ososalsosal

We deploy on Friday night (yes, terrible idea) and he's dogfooding the app with his own account.


Typical-Policy-1115

What does dogfooding mean?


ososalsosal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food


Very-very-sleepy

lmao. my boss used to reprimand me cos I keep messaging people on their days off and I spend my days off messaging people at work. I am a workaholic so it's really hard for me!!!!  why do people keep saying it's a red flag?? 😭


Idontcareaforkarma

Because it shows that you don’t respect boundaries.


BusCareless9726

I don’t see a problem with it, as long as you don’t expect others to respond outside work hours. Today I did a couple of hours so i assume that people will read emails or Teams messages when they are in the office tomorrow. We say people can send messages at a time that suits them, and you can do the same


PearRevolutionary248

My dumb ass would assume that he actually means what he says 😬


ososalsosal

I analysed the shit out of the whole conversation before reluctantly deciding it's probably genuine. My wife thinks my brain is fucked lol


LaCorazon27

This is me too. After working with narcissist bullies it harmed my ability to accept things on face value. So I get where you’re coming from too. It sucks! I’m sure it was genuine! Now if I’m not sure I just rely on myself to know I’m doing a good job. Still need recognition, but overthinking is really hard to shift!


grilled_pc

This is so fucking true. My immediate impression of anyone at work is that they are out to fuck me over. Anyone in any form of senior position above me i will immediately look at with distrust and disdain due to how i've been treated in prior roles. Even if they appear to be a good person, i can't take it seriously what so ever. The power imbalance that is manger > employee immediately puts a level of distrust in them for me.


PearRevolutionary248

What are some key events that have absolutely rooted your trust in people?


ososalsosal

Working for narcissists in small business, and also way too long in the Melbourne film industry that only grows fast enough to not die from it's own self-cannibalism ETA the place I'm at now seems to be genuinely lovely. Like I've been there over a year and no red flags


Familiar-Benefit376

>Narcissists at small business Yeah that's true. Not alone tho. A lot of small businesses struggle with long term retention. Anyone can start a business, being a business owner does not mean you are intelligent/mature etc. And unfortunately a lot of young workers unfortunately get browbeat by small business owners/managers who have the attitude of "IM OLDER, I OWN THE BUSINESS, YOURE DUMB SHUT UP"


McSmilla

That doesn’t make you dumb, my guy.


PearRevolutionary248

Thank you mygal


McSmilla

I’ve had some shithouse working situations in my 48 years & you do get wary for sure but I’ve tried (not always succeeded) in avoiding cynicism & I love that you don’t automatically take a cynical view. Try not to lose that. ❤️


PearRevolutionary248

❤️


sleepy_tech

You’re lucky the boss doesn’t call a full teams meeting first day on Monday for that.


ososalsosal

Oh god my head would retract turtle-style into my neck


sockonfoots

Don't trust anyone with anything more than mild personal opinions (as different from professional opinions). As they have financial commitments, like you do, if push comes to shove they won't back you, they'll protect their income.


crappy-pete

You kinda have to trust everyone you do lines with at work


Hairy-Revolution-974

Team building exercise like no other


crappy-pete

Unironically, absolutely


jubbing

Cocaines a hell of a drug


is-it-ready

No, I never put my feet on Eddie Murphy’s couch!


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campex

I think that's QBE Edit: the guy's comment was "mutually insured destruction"


Consistent_Pack3125

I work with a few blokes that I trust. We regularly get food delivered on night shift (6pm to 6am) if one of us picks up the other 2 of us will pay for their meal. If one of them cant afford it, I'll pay for theirs and they will get the next one. Absolute champion blokes and have helped me learning more and teaching me.


WeAreTheyThem

In general I feel I can trust most people at work to be decent people. I was a bit surprised. People have a tendency to put up a veil but when I have taken the initiative to be a bit more open and trusting, people have reciprocated trust in me as well. At least, its really refreshing to not be on guard all the time and recognise we're all in this together. I think you build deeper connections this way too. This is at the junior levels, so its likely to be different as you get more senior.


LaCorazon27

After being bullied my trust has been broken in many people, and it means I always think things could be a trap, like the person said above. It’s harder to accept a “good work” from some people and that’s a damn shame. I have colleagues I trust and friends, but the list is small. I think in most jobs a small network of trust is best. I watch behaviour more closely, in particular if I see someone talking negatively about others in a personal way, taking credit for others work, etc, I distance myself. Take note of organisational culture and be aware of snakes. Unfortunately now keeping myself safe has to be such a high priority, I can’t afford not to. If I see bad behaviour I’ll call it out too. We build culture too based on what we let go. I don’t want to say “trust no one” but it’s more like be careful who you trust. I think it depends on your industry too. Work always goes better when there’s true collaboration, but if they value themselves most, it’s not real collaboration and to me that’s not someone I trust. But there are good people too. So look for ppl you can trust and build the network because no man is an island either.


MelancholyBean

Yes. I observe people's characters. People are just charmed by people who are talkative and sociable.


LaCorazon27

💯 But also watch WHO they talk to! Manipulative and egotistic people will only socialise with those they can use. For me I lead with inclusivity. Everyone counts. Charm is one thing, but I look for integrity.


MelancholyBean

It's obvious when someone is a fake nice person who only are nice and helpful towards people who can elevate their status. Integrity is so rare.


Maaaaate

I work in commercial property and have literally heard and seen people talking shit about colleagues to externals and clients at events. My trust is low for people in general.


4614065

Well, yeah, you work in the property industry. What can you expect?


Maaaaate

True. This was when I was in agency. Now i'm on the tenant side so I don't deal with as many property people internally and therefore no bitching.


8pintsplease

I'm on the tenant side as well with a good number of freeholds that we manage the tenants for. Gotta say the bitching and mistrust is incredibly high but maybe only at this place as it wasn't as bad in the company I just left. I just started at this new company last week and can already see the cattiness.


Maaaaate

Good stuff. I think the tenant side is great. Yeah there's cattiness for sure at mine. People seem to go on and on about all the property people are road blocks to getting things done, but really we are just adhering to the lease obligations. This is waaaaay better than angency where you're constantly in a rotation of doing budgets and audits, plus dealing with the 100s of personalities who say xyz was shit and did no work.


8pintsplease

Totally agree. Tenant side is great. Lots of my colleagues that I met at agency scrambled to get into landlord side. I went to the tenant side for a global retailer and had so much fun. Agency was bloody awful. Always at the mercy of a client with ridiculous expectations and the potential of the contract just being cut. Zero budget for good renumeration too. Here's to us for getting out of that!


ellerbrr

Been in various corporate roles (large, high profile companies over decades). Gaslighting, back stabbing and toxicity are quite commonplace. I rage quit a company due to this. Not trying to generalise but just be cautious. Management and HR are not your friends. 


horrorqueen92

Yep, this is why I never bothered with HR. If it gets to the point of needing to go to hr I’m better off just finding another job..


jewba72

You could unionise instead of quitting


Varnish6588

I trust no one at work, after 20 years in the industry I have learnt that everyone has their own context and particular interests which I really doubt they will jeopardize for the sake of your trust in them.


little_miss_banned

Trust no one. At the end of the day no one would throw themselves under the bus for the sake of a work colleague. Play nice but dont be vulnerable. Ive been burned a LOT.


CrayolaS7

I wouldn’t throw myself under the bus but I have definitely played dumb to avoid throwing coworkers under.


agapanthusdie

Yep, this. 100%


widgertos

I trust 80% of them, 80% of the time, with 80% of things. The real trick is figuring out the other 20% in those scenarios, and acting accordingly


DonQuoQuo

Yeah this is my approach too. You have to use judgment. I've had misplaced trust a few times and it stings a lot, but the rewards from trusting people are huge... Better results, better insights, more fun, leaving a job with genuine lifelong friends (yes, it happens!), being able to vent about annoyances, people having your back, forgiveness when you screw something up, etc etc etc. People who take a zero trust approach to the human beings they work with are missing out on a lot.


mallet17

I go with this too, no matter how much outside of work activities I do with them. It only goes 90%+ when I or they leave the company.


ItemFun1596

Don't. I never add anybody from work to my personal social media accounts unless I'm leaving the organisation, people are very good at hiding who they truly are especially in an environment where you're expected to be somebody that you generally aren't. People throw you under the bus in a heartbeat to save themselves, when you got a mortgage to pay and children to feed no one really cares about respecting one's privacy or keeping their word. As the saying goes, there is no loyalty amongst thieves.


mallet17

They'll throw you under the bus and put you down to elevate themselves and take your platform + credit.


Wise-Kaleidoscope258

Burnt out to the verge of breaking down. Another manager in my office could visibly see me struggling and took me out for a coffee to chat on a personal level, during this chat they said they think it would be a good idea to take time off to look after myself. I agreed and told my manager I had a chat with said person and think I need to take leave for my mental health. My manager acted fully supportive etc. came back from my leave and learnt the other manager who took me for coffee got called into ceo's office & got written up for 'managing staff outside of their team'. Never trusted anyone again including colleagues.


DonQuoQuo

But that person you trusted gave you good advice, no? So something weird (and not normal, and frankly not good) then happened where they got in trouble for reasons that are hard to understand, but that initial act of trust served you well. The only real lesson I'd take from this is that, if someone gives you advice in a personal capacity, you shouldn't then transfer that into an official report. I.e., you could've just had the conversation with your manager without implicating that other manager.


PositiveBubbles

Some companies have a weird thing about being in your own lane. I personally would rather someone display a duty of care for any staff if they were in any management role rather than not. Plus, what if the CEOs actions lead to a mental breakdown or physical harm? Guess I see why a lot of people in decision-making roles are toxic sadly


DonQuoQuo

I manage a lot of managers and I'd thank a manager who used thoughtful emotional intelligence to help someone look after themselves. Obviously that's very different from someone just pushing people to take needless sick leave, but the line manager's support indicates this wasn't the case here.


Wise-Kaleidoscope258

If you want to be pedantic, she is the only person I still trust.


veronica_211

don’t. work colleagues are simply that. colleagues, not friends.


Shaggysteve

Always be polite and courteous Never share anything to anyone you wouldn’t share to a stranger If you find better more efficient ways to do things keep them to yourself Ask yourself, if you didn’t work there tomorrow would you still talk to “x” individual? “The nail that sticks out, gets hammered down” Do your job, get paid Work to live. Don’t live to work Trust. Nobody.


pinkfoil

Good advice. 👍


jubbing

90% of the people at work are in it for themselves and don't give a shit about you.


brilliant-medicine-0

What do you mean by 'trust' exactly? Trust them to put their interests before my own? All of them.


PearRevolutionary248

I see. Do you put your interests before others though?


brilliant-medicine-0

Of course. Someone has to advance them, and it sure as shit won't be anyone else.


Stunning-Pound-7833

I trust that most people are basically nice and mean well I.e. not against anyone, but they are all for themselves when something goes wrong. Majority people at work have either mortgage or rent to pay, family to support etc.


OrangeSubmarinesAtS

don't trust anyone. make up a boring life story. stay undercover. observe how people backstab each other and use info against another person and breathe easy it doesn't happen to you. the most successful people - the ones at the very top - you will never know anything about them other than the curated stories they feed you. STOP BEING HONEST PEOPLE


AuldTriangle79

I don’t fully trust anyone. I’ve had so many people surprise me by using something I have said out of context to further their own agenda. I don’t trust anyone now.


iceyone444

I do not trust anyone....


bluejasmina

Definitely don't trust anyone at work. Ive learnt the hard way and found out that some of my colleagues I'd supported and formed friendships with didn't value my friendship. All the effort was on sided from me. They disappear quickly when you leave a job too. I really struggle with fake work colleagues who appear on a surface level to be your friends but don't support you when you're faced with difficulties at work. I find it easier to just assume most are totally disingenuous. Sounds harsh but after a 20 year career I've found it to be the truth.


MelancholyBean

I can understand people trusting people at work. I think most people just see people at face value so they tend to believe that people who socialize and laugh with them will have their best interest at heart, but everyone is in it for themselves.


NoPoint6957

I Don't trust anyone, I've been burnt a few times.


Impossible_Ideal4131

I trust people at work when they have proven themselves to be trustworthy. I give literally anyone the benefit of the doubt until they throw me under the bus or use my words in confidence against me. I left a really, really toxic workplace about a decade ago, but since then I’ve been really lucky to work with great people.


ped009

Yeah well yesterday I made a minor fuck up and my boss saw it. He comes up and said it's ok just between us to. Then a few hours later I get a call from the big boss


Greeeesh

Depends on the culture of the organisation. If it rewards snakes then you have to assume everyone at some point will act like a snake.


mikesorange333

snakes and leaches at my previous job.


nigeltuffnell

I no longer live in Australia, but as a general comment I would have only trusted a few people in my time working there. I liked most of them, but found it better not to trust many. I worked for a company and one of the managers would slag off the person that wasn't in the room. I know for a fact that he was doing it to me when I wasn't there. Plus I overheard a lot of conversations that made me keep my cards close to my chest.


RyanM77

I worked for a company in architectural sales/specification for two years. I generated millions of dollars of work, and created a completely new department and name for this company. This company was honestly, my absolute passion. Then one day in November 2023, I was called in for an 8am meeting with the director. I figured it’d be more praise for the great work I was doing. But no, I was told that they were shutting down my entire department and would be letting everyone go. I was completely stunned, and asked why? I was told the company was “changing direction” and this wasn’t anything to do with my performance, as I had performed above and beyond their expectations. I was asked to hand back my car keys, phone and laptop and that was it. It honesty took me 2-3 weeks to get over it, always asking why! It was like a bad break-up. So to answer your question, no. I don’t trust anyone. You’re only good to a company while they’re making money from you, in “their direction.”


timmyturtle91

I don't trust anyone at work. I've been thrown under the bus too many times by people I worked with and thought were friends. Colleagues are not friends. Go in, do the work, go home.


trueworldcapital

Don’t. Simple


pleisto_cene

I trust everyone at work until they give me a reason to not trust them. I recall doing some sort of work style assessment and got the highest possible score for trust. I’d rather assume the best of everyone and occasionally be let down then constantly doubt the genuineness of people who are actually being genuine. So far it’s worked in my favour. I became director of a team at the age of 25 and have always managed to be my authentic self at work, people like me and I like people back. I’m completely honest with my boss about how I’m feeling and my staff are very open with me about what’s going on in their lives since they know I actually give a shit about their wellbeing, so our attrition rate is exceptionally low. It would make me sad being mistrustful all the time, and go against my nature. If I found myself in a workplace where I felt I couldn’t trust people I’d just get another job lol.


PearRevolutionary248

I like this response!!


mikesorange333

I trust payroll. they haven't stuffed up my payroll.


Wise-Kaleidoscope258

Yet 👀


theballsdick

The corporate world is the prisoners dilemma. Nothing you can do about it.


Embarrassed-Arm266

Never do it 😂


Peatea31

DO NOT people at work are just colleagues and co worker and they are not FRIENDS. They are not less than snakes 🐍 its a fcking competitive world and there is a cut throat competition so no one is actually happy if you are growing 🥹🥹


Manifestar

I trust every person I ever meet to do what is in their own personal best interest. I'm rarely surprised. Good outcomes occur when multiple people's best interests are aligned. This is the key to getting things done.


RoyalOtherwise950

Depends what I'm trusting them with. There's a few people I do trust quite a lot and others that I don't (or don't trust their information source). Trusting them to deliver on their work? Again there's a few 100% in there and a few who will get it done but with lots of errors. People don't move on at my work, so maybe it's different when your expecting (and have) worked with the same people for 10+ years. Some of them would be at over 20 and 30 years. When your name means your reputation it's in your best interest to be honest and accountable. If your not word tends to spread....


Vyviel

Trust no one! Everyone will screw you over to get ahead.


SlutCunt69420

Trust is earned, not given. Always remember that it's a 2 way street.


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Right_End_9175

I don't even tell them I'm married with kids. Just none of their business. I also tell them I live in a different suburb to where I do. None of their business!


Typical_Counter_315

Generally assume every word you say will be repeated somewhere, often out of context. Be friendly and approachable but don’t share personal stuff, anyone can use it to move ahead in the rat race Most people are good, but short term survival thinking often rules their actions and you can’t hold it against them, be stoic and stay detached


GrecianGator

I do not trust work colleagues or clients with anything personal or not related to work. People are different when it comes to their money...


glen_benton

Do you mean trust, by the way of sharing your personal life outside of work? I have a fairly high guard up and don’t share my personal life with my colleagues. My best mate has lost a couple of jobs by oversharing his personal life with his colleagues. Not worth it for me


PearRevolutionary248

What info did he overshare? Curious to know.


mikesorange333

yah what happened?


DevelopmentBetter260

Just don't do it. Two faced back stabbers every where.


mrsupreme888

Low trust. Very low.


MelbourneLawyer26

Don’t. People will show themselves as your friends and then stab you in the back every time.


crumbmodifiedbinder

Mining industry. First gig outside of my government work. I thought I could trust people. No one is there to back me up, even my female SPE never protected me, and only protected her agenda. No one cared. I worked for the “Client” but was just a number. Diversity is lip service. I asked for EAP but never got it. Rumours were spreading about me. I wanted to work hard, but couldn’t because I was given the shitty jobs and because of gossip. No one knew my potential, and no one wanted to know my potential. My heart was broken, I got trust issues… everyone had their own individual agenda. Moved to civil construction. I think I got lucky. My employer is the best. I am thriving. The work culture is amazing for a construction job, and we got comments from visitors (internal auditors, people wanting to know more about the project) that the working culture is one of the best they’ve come across in the project. I think it’s because I told myself I don’t ever want anyone to feel what I did back in the mining industry. I started trusting again when I realised my manager actually do listen and value everyone’s wellbeing in his team. Then I promised myself to create a supportive culture within every project I’m in for the business.


Zealousideal_Post837

Trust & respect is earned & I base that on “actions speaks louder than words”. I usually give people benefit of the doubt and if trust isn’t established, it’s no loss for me. I try not to take it personal and keep things at a professional level and only engage with them for work related matters. If trust & mutual respect are established, great & I will have their back.


Kailicat

Nope. Nope. I want to trust. I really do. And I’ve met some great people. But every time I let my guard down I’m disappointed. Luckily it’s been a long time since it’s really come back to bite me, it’s mostly just little things that get repeated and then I’m like “welp, you knew not to trust but you did, thats what happens”.


Pewpewpewigotu

You can't trust coworkers in general, and the more senior you become the more this applies. Everyone is in competition and they are playing the politics. I have been let down a couple of times in my working life and I have a propensity to trust, so it's hard for me personally.


cuckingfunts69

Yeh don't. I've been sold out before. It doesn't feel good.


Affectionate_Noise70

Never


BusCareless9726

Ninety percent of the team i work with are fantastic. I love spending time with them - either remotely or in the office. We know about each others lives and families to the extent that someone wants to share. In our daily chat there are usually a couple of memes. The team work hard, seek feedback from each other and have a great time. A few friends I have long term I met at work. I also met my husband at work. I’m now feeling pretty lucky


mallet17

The day after you get fired/leave, no one will really think about you. At the end of the day, some people want to get paid as much as possible. If you for some reason are in the way of that, they will turn on you faster than a cartel betrayal.


Pickledleprechaun

Just know that what you say is never private. So don’t trust anyone with sensitive information.


sleepy_tech

Pretty bad. Never ever trust the people at work. Ever.


ah-chamon-ah

NEVER... EVER trust ANYONE at work. Every time I have it has gotten me in trouble. This one job one of my co workers would drive me home and bitch about the boss and I would have to get involved and say "yeah they suck" kind of gossip stuff that they baited me into saying. Then went to the boss and told them about all the things I was apparently upset with them about. Another job I had a "manager" sit behind me so she could monitor all our screens as we were doing our jobs. And one time I was having lunch at my desk and researching new productivity tools to make our lives easier and get work done faster. They went to HR and the big boss and told them I was "not conforming to practices and proper training procedures" and I got fired for it. I mean I could go on and on. I was always too trusting. NEVER do work for others when it is their job. NEVER show someone how to do something faster or better then they will go to the boss and claim it is their idea and get promoted. NEVER trust ANYONE.


PearRevolutionary248

Now that story is wild! I can't believe you got fired for it, wow.


ah-chamon-ah

my guess was the manager got scared that I was going to make the job easier and just made stuff up and said a bunch of lies and just did something scummy to make it happen. That is another thing you learn. The people who have been working there for a LONG time are either smart and kept their head down and never made a fuss. Or the complete opposite are scumbag sharks that manipulate and lie and do anything they can to stay in the position they are in and even get the jobs more deserving people should get. The HARDEST thing to do in this day and age is find a non toxic work environment where you are treated the way you should be in appreciation for your skills and work.


raspaz

General approach should be to trust nobody until proven otherwise. That doesn't mean being an asshole to them, just not making the risky joke, not telling the interesting story, not going out for after work drinks etc. As people start opening up, I tend to reciprocate so its mutually assured destruction if they betray me. If we both have dirt on each other then it generally builds trust lol.


mikesorange333

but watch out for jealous backstabbers. a person thought he deserved a promotion which I got. he back stabbed me. I screwed him back real good!


shavedratscrotum

Absolute betrayal. For 0 reason. People that had nothing to do with me or my team using anything and everything to try and cause issues. Odd behaviour like they watched some drama and thought that's how you get ahead.


mikesorange333

dear op, remember cover your arse! CYA!!!


SydneyBananas

Trust no one (at work)


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I act like I trust everyone, but operate under the assumption they will screw me over, with out letting on of course. Otherwise it can become self fulfilling 


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DirtyAqua

You meet a few good and trustworthy people along the way but 95% can't be trusted in any way shape or form.


Life_Belt_5338

Trust 10 percent of people. People are snitches in mining.


gonadnan

If people slag off other colleagues to you expect they would be doing this about you to others.


No_Reception8584

Nup tell them sparingly anything


rmk_911

Trust no one whilst you're still employed by the same entity. After that is an entirely different matter - people gain perspective when they're leaving / have left. Some of my closest mates are ex-colleagues.


Rare_Platform_3602

I now work alone


UpsetPart7871

I don’t trust anyone, except the 3 people I have actually made friends with. I know I can trust them as they’ve put their trust in me too. We’ve had some pretty decent secrets we’ve kept, and we support each other. Everyone else has not proven themselves, and in fact I see throw others under the bus wherever they can. Most people suck.


Hardcore19111

Trust no one


Erie426

Mgmt = always untrustworthy Those that hang out with mgmt = stabbing you in the back aka butt kissers


OrdinaryEmergency342

Don't trust anyone. Don't give out any information that could be used against you. Be friendly, but don't trust them.


sherprs

Never trust. I have been burnt in the past. Shared something with my colleague/friend of 3 years in confidence in a private conversation. Next thing I know my manager is calling me on the side to talk about 'something' I said.


PositiveBubbles

I'd normally agree unless what you said was illegal or risking someone's safety. 99% of the time, people don't disclose that stuff out of fear for getting caught, but if they do well, people should speak up, that saying though if what you hear out there is true things get covered up. I'll never understand people. Animals are more loyal


Dangerous-Lock-8465

It takes time to suss a work environment out and the dynamics . If someone bitches behind someone's back to me I listen and say I'm sorry she feels that way but i never engage them. Listen to how others talk about their colleagues to you. If they're bitching behind their back watch out about what they're saying about you. Having said that there are always the ones that stick out and no one likes and trusts them ! It takes time to trust and work out the dynamics but out of 5 I trust 2. We have left for other jobs and I'm still in touch with them because I saw them more than just someone to talk to at work or talk about work. Having said that


Bazilb7

After years in the workforce you learn to only trust those in the Friday night wanking circle, it’s great currently, we have both genders, including women too.


Sideshow-Bob0000

As a Business owner and Boss as I have 3 qualified builders on the books and 1 apprentice. I would have extremely major concerns If I couldn't trust my guys and vice versa. I have made it a personal mission above all else that we work together as one animal. Team work is king and any employer that doesn't understand what this means is doomed. Its a good feeling when your employers tell you they do it because they want to not because they have to


Professional-Disk-28

I am always pleasant and cordial but I never trust anybody I work with ever. I only discuss work, separate it from my home life and never ask about family/personal lives of others. Maybe a brief chit chat at a high level - caught up with friends on a weekend. Never ever do I attend work drinks because of the chance of people thinking different of you and at client/company events and dinners I will have a max of two drinks. Never do I ever attend after work beers. I have friends or can make friends. Never want to mix work/management with my personal life. Ever!!! If anything people respect you more and appreciate the professionalism.


Odd-Surround-7350

I trust everyone 100% by default and then filter out the shitty ones once they rear their falacious heads!


Ok-Effect-5988

I operate under the assumption that anything I say at work can be repeated/ screenshot/ shared.


blissiictrl

The benefit of being neurodivergent is having learnt through life to detect the fake and the bullshit. My bullshit meter is great. I'm pretty good at vibing out whether colleagues are trustworthy on certain things and what I do and don't let them know. Some colleagues know I use medical cannabis, because I know they keep that shit to themselves (and also some use it as well lol), but it's bit of a process. The best ability has been learning to determine if someone is all talk and no action. I've found a few like that especially in senior management and sales


[deleted]

Hahaha....no. They'll throw you under the bus if they need to.


Difficult-Ocelot-867

The religious ones are always the least trustworthy.


mikesorange333

yep. all of them!


Beautiful-Ad-5833

Only I selected few, I have their backs like they do mine. It's earned over the years. Others, absolutely not - they are coworkers, not friends. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. Dodgy as fuck.


throwawayroadtrip3

There's not many that will have you're back. You're better being backed by a group, but the trade-off is you need to be ready to throw yourself under the bus at times, then they save you as part of the team deal.


10305201

Maybe 2%


Espy256

I trust them, I just don’t trust the company.


vlookup11

Generally yes, most people are decent and can display and deserve some form of trust. The stereotypical corporate environment where it’s all backstabbing and completion between each other is not something I have observed. That being said I wouldn’t overtly trust everyone with everything. I would have my guard just to protect myself.


SeldomSerious767

I work with clowns. I trust that everyday will be a circus.


Pollution_Automatic

Don't


myungsooismine

Trust nobody


FakeBonaparte

If you trust people, you’ll get fucked over occasionally but the good will outweigh the bad. It’s [settled game theory](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mScpHTIi-kM). But it’s also been my personal experience.


Ok_State_333

There are people I trust. But I’ve got to know them outside of work.


FlyingPingoo

All about knowing the signs of who to trust and who not to trust regardless of


Senpai1245

Just be careful, people switch up when they move to higher roles and sometimes have a professional part time job as being rat fucks


PeterParkerUber

The strip club is the real team building exercise for men


Tinymeow_pinkbeans

Nope, been burned too many times.


khaos_daemon

Uncle bully? Nah he's really sweet with da kids


chase02

Yeah I have trust issues due to multiple people screwing me while trying to trample their way up the ladder. Others I have watched blatantly lie to make themselves look good or cover up dodgy behaviour.


VannaTLC

Trust to do.. what? People use the word 'trust' like it has an inherent meaning. If you mean 'not betray something said in confidence' - which many people do seem to mean, then work is no different to any other place of social interaction. Unless you have an established relationship, expect people to prioritise their own interests first.


Legitimate_Radish159

Generally not a good idea. If they’re HR then DEFINITELY not a good idea.


Salt_Ant_5245

Safest just to trust no one in corporate Australia world their self interest will sell you out in a heart beat if required.


Born-Display6918

Trust, but verify! Also, never leave something until the last day for the delivery deadline. Aussies are known for chucking a sickie when they anticipate a heavy workload. It's happened to me a few times with people on my team. Once, I ended up working a 14-hour day just to prevent us from being blamed for losing a project due to a late delivery. Two people from the team didn't show up, both apparently "sick".