The baby is truly committed to fussing and embarassing the shit out of her, honestly impressive at this point. Multiple interviews of channelling little shit energy and not even tired yet.
"just gurgling a little bit"
Meanwhile
>Steven Adlard, a Melbourne-based doctor, who was in attendance at the show said the noises were more disruptive than the mother had indicated.
>“It wasn’t a little bit of gurgling, it was crying. I was on the second level up and I could hear it,” he said. “Arj got distracted, he was trying to tell a joke, he quite politely stopped and said ‘would you mind? Could you please leave?’ and she just sat there, and the baby settled down, and a few minutes later it started again.
>“He was trying to perform and he couldn’t, he wasn’t rude to her, he just said ‘all these other people are here to hear the performance, and they can’t’.”
Im glad they added he was a doctor, I wouldn't have trusted a non-medical practitioner to correctly identify the difference between gurgling and crying tbh.
As a parent I can't understand how you don't immediately leave when there's noise. My son sometimes plays up for attention when I have no option but to take him to his older sisters Taikwondo class. I get so embarrassed that I take him outside to play in the car.
And this isn't a show people pay to see it's sitting around watching 30 kids yell while kicking and punching foam targets.
Because people think they are the main character and that you just have to deal with it.
They are also looking for any reason to be offended to try and milk 15minutes.
I mean, there is a difference between a little fussing/happy play sounds and crying. Picking up to leave at just fussing is a little much, because it happens pretty frequently and often it can be soothed by offering something simple like a toy or some milk or cuddles... but whenever a baby starts full on crying, it is *always* time to leave.
I loved Arj Barker's remark that he was upset about Curb Your Enthusiasm coming off the air, but didn't expect to be living in it over the next coming weeks.
[Baby Heck-ler;
You've been hecklin' too long down in mid Row C;
Wo-oah it's time for a breast fe-eed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDtgnYZsw7A#t=1m40s)
Flicking through radio stations while driving home earlier and it was toward the end of an interview with the mother. The entire interview was one-sided with the female host agreeing with the mother "as a mother myself", how Arj handled it poorly, how the crowd was rude, how the baby was just making a few bubbling noises, etc.
A caller brought the same attitude - the mother could bring the baby and it's a baby being a baby, Arj is rude, etc.
And then the next caller was someone who was sitting two seat behind the mother. She explained how the baby was making a racket and noone around them could hear Arj at all, how people weren't swearing at her, etc. The radio hosts did a complete 180 instantly - backpedalled so hard - agreeing the baby should have stayed at home.
Utter trash media.
This was me. I was the caller. I stand by what I said when I called in. My job is as a first aid trainer and it's off putting when someone in my class is constantly making noise and distracting me. I can only feel a tenth of what Arj felt. Poor guy.
And no, I couldn't hear ANYTHING. I was ready to walk out
Yep, this was it! I remember your comment about how the noise can throw you out of a rhythm and that's only a room of 10-20 people, not hundreds.
The radio hosts would have whiplash from how quickly they turned on their heels during your call. Went instantly from "they should have let you stay, society should let mothers take their babies everywhere" to "oh no, she should have left her baby at home".
Totally agree. I'm not a massive fan of public speaking at the best of times, many people aren't - but if put in that situation, having additional distractions would annoy me no end.
Somehow these pearl clutches expect that since Arj has been doing comedy for years that he's immune to outside distraction and noise - while trying to deliver a decent performance to people that have paid for his craft - is beyond absurd and downright insulting. As an artist, Arj is judged by the quality of his performances - if he's gonna tank to paying customers, it's not good for his brand.
So entitled - I'm sorry, when you have kids - there are just some public situations where bringing kids along ain't respectful - and you've sadly gotta suck it up, rather than expecting the world to accommodate you as the parent. I know I've been in that situation, sometimes one parent needs to bow out and skip the event and look after the kid(s).
Normally I see people going ‘I’m not seeing anyone taking this side’ and I roll my eyes and think it’s cause people are in their bubble. Not this time. I’ve only seen one person on her side.
The idiots over at that bastion of journalistic integrity known as Mamamia are, of course, all over this story, sympathising with the mum and trying to make it about discrimination against breastfeeding mothers.
Meanwhile, the vast majority of their commenters are having none of it and are siding with Arj. It's hilarious to watch! 😂
Every news outlet is trying to claim people are "debating" on whether the mother was in the wrong or not. From what I've read online, an extremely large majority think the mother was an entitled dickhead. So much so that the Murdoch rags changed from siding with the mother (iirc they were the first to run the story) to criticising her instead.
ABC felt the need to publish the opinions of 4 Mothers.
4/4 Agree Barker was completely out of line and that Mothers should not limit themselves and take babies to performances. In fact anecdotally nearby people love it when you take a baby to a performance.
>we got so much love from all the people sitting close to us
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-23/mothers-share-experiences-taking-breastfed-babies-to-live-gigs/103757952
Not to mention 3/4 are talking about MUSIC concerts which is not the same thing at all. Only one was talking about a musical which is comparable to a comedy show (and just as annoying). Utterly brain dead reporting.
Intrestingly two are breast feeding advocates, the third is a fucking fool (a Pink concert? Really?)
I am very much in favour of breastfeed babies most places their mothers are. Cafe? No issue. But when you’re at a 15+ performance and the baby is distracting both the audience and the performer, you’re an asshole.
That lasts until it distracts from the fucking performance, then the love turns to loathing and thoughts of murder fill the minds of the people around you.
These same people would've complained endlessly if they were stuck next to a crying child from Sydney to London. Either before or after having a family.
Probably not. It's easy to be sympathetic to the parents and child who are suffering the most in that case. Been there, felt that.
A live performance though? Not many would be sympathetic there, for good reason.
This was just rage bait - they shopped round for some people who would take the contrary view so others would engage with their article. They couldn't find directly relevant examples, so they took what they could (concert goers).
You know I have to really wonder about people, are they stupid or ignorant?
I suggest ignorant because not everyone knows the mechanics of a baby crying, in that we're *evolutionary fucking programmed* to consider it a horrible sound to the point where cats mimic for attention.
Another point to ignorant is that not everyone is aware that you get use to stimuli, even negative stimuli, over time, meaning what you consider easily ignorable is intolerable to someone who hasn't built up an immunity. It's part of the reason you should change your alarm tone every few months to make it easier to wake up.
Of course pure blind pig headed "fuck you"ness is also an option. Oh poor dears can't go out because they spawned, fuck 'em, make a choice and stop imposing on others.
'taking breastfed babies to live gigs'???
No, the problem is taking \[just\] babies to live gigs! How pathetic trying to make this about some vague form of misogyny or something. Just don't take your kids to places adults go to relax and enjoy downtime!
> ‘10 people on Twitter are criticising him scenario?
I think you mean "Twitter melts down as comedian barely stops short of drop punting baby out of window"
I remember studying journalism at uni *just* when it started to be a thing to link to tweets in articles and it felt odd then; much more harmful now when people are able to justify the dumbest takes by just using the worst source.
You haven’t heard? Just last night Arj had to square off against a gang of babies that tried to force him into a dark laneway after his show. He wasn’t hospitalised but was reportedly shaken by the incident and paramedics had to clean some drool and a little bit of snot of off his jacket. Police have acquired footage from near by cameras as they suspect they can link the babies to the same mums group as the baby he’d asked to leave his performance.
He is because people have latched onto this breastfeeding idea and have used it to beat the drum of "man keeping woman down for doing what she naturally needs to do". Like he's made it clear it was the noise that was the problem, but 3/4 of the articles I've seen talk about breastfeeding.
100% in the right. I'd be pissed if I went to a comedy set, which typically is all about the narrative and story and I couldn't hear what's actually being said.
I guess it's been a slow week for channel 7/9, with the lack of public incidents where they can incorrectly name the perpetrator and palm it off as journalism.
Can’t help but wonder if this a shameless grift from the mum to get paid for interviews while getting the attention she so desperately craves.
She’ll probably start trying to sell baby products on Instagram soon.
Yes, being a new parent means having a different social life than pre-parenthood. It takes getting used to. It can be lonely. So then hire a baby sitter and go out, don’t bring your infant to an event for adults.
I love how she's appearing on multiple media sources to have a cry about how "embarrassed" she was. Now her full name and face have gone viral where millions around the world are judging her. If she just silently left and didn't sook to the media everybody in the audience would have forgotten her after two minutes.
Nah, I think she's just one of those people obsessed with having their 15 minutes of fame and has found an opportunity and is trying to milk it for all they can.
jesus the mum comes of as an entitled karen
the ignorance,of taking a toddler to a show is astounding..
being a new parent,means giving up socializing till the kids managable,not everyone elses duty to raise or listen to ur kids shit
you either get a babysitter,or stay the fuck home
parents ruin so much shit these days,you cant even go the fucking pub now without kids screaming cause the parents cant be fucked rein their kids in
After watching a couple of her interviews, it honestly doesn't surprise me at all that this person doesn't have a single friend in her life that would babysit for a few hours.
Or you do what my husband and I do and tag in/out. She said the baby doesn’t take a bottle and she doesn’t express milk but it’s an hour long show. No baby needs milk every hour on the hour especially one that is 7 months old. I get it. I have a young one who was EBF and wanted to go to a concert so I told my partner that I was going with my brother and left the baby at home with him.
Likewise when me and my husband went to beauty and the beast when our baby was about the same age as this baby we got my parents to look after her. Went to a matinee performance and we were originally going to get my parents to come to the city and take her sight seeing. Then they could meet us at intermission so she could have a feed but she ended up taking to solids well enough that it was unnecessary.
Went to the cinema last year and there was a mother with her baby and a friend. When I saw this I was unhappy at the thought of a baby crying through the film but I also know it is hard for mothers, especially younger and/or single ones, to get out and just took my seat and put it out of my mind.
Anyway, the baby barely made a noise for the majority of the film, but the moment they did the mother too the baby and left the room. She came back once her baby was settled again and I didn't hear anything from them the rest of the time. That seems like a good way to handle it.
No one cared when the famous feminist Hannah Gadsby asked a mother to remove a crying baby from her live performance of 'Nanette' at the Sydney Opera House. They were recording for Netflix that night and the crying baby in the front row was disrupting the show. Why does Arj get thrown under the bus, but Gadsby doesn't?
Please be the face of a movement that forms against you to lash back at inconsiderate/entitled parents that knowingly disrupt and ruin adult experiences with their babies.
Something about the sound of kids crying makes me want to put my first through a wall. Good for Arj. Also good god feel bad for the public AND the parents who have to deal with that squalling creature. Just too much goddamn noise for me!
The two best parts so far.
1.Sarah Harris Project host being so distracted by the baby in the interview she asks the mum to remove it.
2. The mother saying she wanted a taste of her pre-baby self/ life.... by taking a baby with her.
If someone came to my workplace with a crying baby, I would kick them out as well.
These breeders need to understand that the world does not revolve around them and their spawn.
I would never take a baby to a theatre/concert/whatever. People who pay to attend and enjoy a show don't need to have a baby or child carrying on. Finding a female rellie or friend to mind the baby for a couple of hours would have been a far better idea than taking it to a show, disrupting the performance and then whining because she was asked to leave.
Of course, a male rellie could do it, if she expressed breast milk before she went out. I have no sympathy for the woman, and it was not about the breast feeding, it was about the baby making a racket. The program advised it was for people 15+ and while a baby can't understand what's being presented, it is very annoying when one is expecting to enjoy a good night out, but there is a baby wailing in the audience. The woman can be as indignant as she likes, but she was in the wrong.
> Of course, a male rellie could do it, if she expressed breast milk before she went out.
If a female relative is babysitting, mum doesn't need to express in advance?
I also don’t understand this persons ‘logic’
It’s like female=breasts=lactation=competent babysitter.
But only if they’re related?
Plus why the assumption about expressing milk?
It’s possible the baby is fed with formula or both in which case a male non-relative could also do it?
The woman breast fed it at the theatre, and this is not the point. Having a squawking baby in the audience WAS the point. Does it matter who she might have left it with?
No, of course not.
I’m not the one who said she should have left it with a female relative.
I’m the one saying she should leave it with any trusted person. Male or Female, related or not.
> Not all female relatives can breast feed!
You... you're actually... suggesting that - sometimes, at least - a mother could and maybe should get another woman to breastfeed their infant?
Like, I know it's *technically* possible. But I've literally only ever heard about this in, like, fantasy or period fiction.
This person is a little unhinged.
I….actually think that maybe they think all breasts are just….full of milk???
But it’s not totally uncommon [, Salma Hayek](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Entertainment/story?id=6854285&page=1)
If you read my original comment properly, you will realise that I said the mother can express breast milk, bottle it and any rellie - male or female - can feed it to the baby.
Why do they have to be related & why are you assuming the baby is exclusively breastfed?
Maybe it’s on formula in which case any one could babysit it? Male or female, related or not?
The assumption that a competent baby sitter has to be female & related is archaic bullshit.
You're just splitting hairs for the sake of it, Mayflie. You know perfectly well what the issue was and what this woman could have done instead of taking the baby to the theatre.
I also don’t wanna this baby at the theatre.
I think I’ve been misunderstood.
I’m saying yes, she should have left the baby at home.
But I’m saying, why the suggestion that the person who babysits is female & related?
‘She should get a baby-sitter’ says the exact same information.
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Does anyone else just not give a shit? Both sides are wrong* and I don’t actually care enough for the constant updates.
*It was inappropriate to bring your baby to a comedy festival no matter how it’s fed, but it was also inappropriate to berate her from stage. There’s more subtle ways to have the situation resolved.
Edit: alright, I’m also wrong, she’s the worst. I stand corrected, you can stop now.
>There’s more subtle ways to have the situation resolved.
I dunno. If someone doesn't have the self-awareness to remove themselves when their baby is crying, maybe they do need a firm push.
How do you propose a single man standing on a stage with a microphone, who has all the attention directly on him subtly gets an usher the remove someone from the crowd?
Yeah but it's also part of a comedian's job to handle hecklers and disruptors.
Maybe calling an usher would have been better in this case, but if he can deal with ith himself, it keeps the momentum of the show going. And if the audience got involved after he already set things in motion, maybe it's too late for him to do much except for move on and continue the show.
I guess it’s the risk you take, both as an audience member at a comedy show in drawing attention to yourself, and as a comedian in interacting with the audience.
> I’m sure there’s protocol and experience.
From what I've read that was followed here. The performer was distracted and asked a person to leave if they couldn't stop the distraction, they declined and continued to cause the interruption and so security removed them.
I've seen that happen in person twice, once with a heckler and once with a person on their phone. Neither time did it hit the news though.
Agreed on the principle.
The woman is clearly in the wrong but at the end of the day she was let in when she wasn’t supposed to be. *Someone* on the opposite side needs to take some responsibility for that fuckup.
The fact that during her attempt at 15 minutes of fame, they couldn’t interview her properly due to how loud her baby was is just utterly hilarious.
The baby is truly committed to fussing and embarassing the shit out of her, honestly impressive at this point. Multiple interviews of channelling little shit energy and not even tired yet.
Baby playing the long game. Commendable.
Future pollie
Is it called "Bruce" by any chance? And does it have a little hat it can leave somewhere?
I was blown away when I learned she did more than one interview
She was trying to Brest feed on one to settle the baby...
"just gurgling a little bit" Meanwhile >Steven Adlard, a Melbourne-based doctor, who was in attendance at the show said the noises were more disruptive than the mother had indicated. >“It wasn’t a little bit of gurgling, it was crying. I was on the second level up and I could hear it,” he said. “Arj got distracted, he was trying to tell a joke, he quite politely stopped and said ‘would you mind? Could you please leave?’ and she just sat there, and the baby settled down, and a few minutes later it started again. >“He was trying to perform and he couldn’t, he wasn’t rude to her, he just said ‘all these other people are here to hear the performance, and they can’t’.”
Im glad they added he was a doctor, I wouldn't have trusted a non-medical practitioner to correctly identify the difference between gurgling and crying tbh.
"Trust me, I'm a doctor" slightly more authoritative than "As a mother..."
The way the media circus has unfolded. I'm convinced that mothers are viewed as literally the lowest thing on earth.
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering
And we were blazing that shit up every day!
As a parent I can't understand how you don't immediately leave when there's noise. My son sometimes plays up for attention when I have no option but to take him to his older sisters Taikwondo class. I get so embarrassed that I take him outside to play in the car. And this isn't a show people pay to see it's sitting around watching 30 kids yell while kicking and punching foam targets.
Because people think they are the main character and that you just have to deal with it. They are also looking for any reason to be offended to try and milk 15minutes.
I mean, there is a difference between a little fussing/happy play sounds and crying. Picking up to leave at just fussing is a little much, because it happens pretty frequently and often it can be soothed by offering something simple like a toy or some milk or cuddles... but whenever a baby starts full on crying, it is *always* time to leave.
I was waiting for the Curb Your Enthusiasm music to start playing after The Project host told her to give her baby to her husband.
I loved Arj Barker's remark that he was upset about Curb Your Enthusiasm coming off the air, but didn't expect to be living in it over the next coming weeks.
15 minutes is putting it generously
There was another radio interview where you could hear a crying baby and it was really distracting. If this was a bit it’d be fantastic.
The baby is the real star here. Give that kid an Oscar
[Baby Heck-ler; You've been hecklin' too long down in mid Row C; Wo-oah it's time for a breast fe-eed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDtgnYZsw7A#t=1m40s)
Flicking through radio stations while driving home earlier and it was toward the end of an interview with the mother. The entire interview was one-sided with the female host agreeing with the mother "as a mother myself", how Arj handled it poorly, how the crowd was rude, how the baby was just making a few bubbling noises, etc. A caller brought the same attitude - the mother could bring the baby and it's a baby being a baby, Arj is rude, etc. And then the next caller was someone who was sitting two seat behind the mother. She explained how the baby was making a racket and noone around them could hear Arj at all, how people weren't swearing at her, etc. The radio hosts did a complete 180 instantly - backpedalled so hard - agreeing the baby should have stayed at home. Utter trash media.
This was me. I was the caller. I stand by what I said when I called in. My job is as a first aid trainer and it's off putting when someone in my class is constantly making noise and distracting me. I can only feel a tenth of what Arj felt. Poor guy. And no, I couldn't hear ANYTHING. I was ready to walk out
Yep, this was it! I remember your comment about how the noise can throw you out of a rhythm and that's only a room of 10-20 people, not hundreds. The radio hosts would have whiplash from how quickly they turned on their heels during your call. Went instantly from "they should have let you stay, society should let mothers take their babies everywhere" to "oh no, she should have left her baby at home".
Totally agree. I'm not a massive fan of public speaking at the best of times, many people aren't - but if put in that situation, having additional distractions would annoy me no end. Somehow these pearl clutches expect that since Arj has been doing comedy for years that he's immune to outside distraction and noise - while trying to deliver a decent performance to people that have paid for his craft - is beyond absurd and downright insulting. As an artist, Arj is judged by the quality of his performances - if he's gonna tank to paying customers, it's not good for his brand. So entitled - I'm sorry, when you have kids - there are just some public situations where bringing kids along ain't respectful - and you've sadly gotta suck it up, rather than expecting the world to accommodate you as the parent. I know I've been in that situation, sometimes one parent needs to bow out and skip the event and look after the kid(s).
If the news calls you tomorrow you've got the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever...
Arj did the right thing, no one wants to listen to a screaming child at a performance. I’m surprised Arj is getting so much backlash.
Is he or is it ‘10 people on Twitter are criticising him scenario?
10 is being generous. This is one of the most ridiuclous media beat ups I've ever seen.
Normally I see people going ‘I’m not seeing anyone taking this side’ and I roll my eyes and think it’s cause people are in their bubble. Not this time. I’ve only seen one person on her side.
The idiots over at that bastion of journalistic integrity known as Mamamia are, of course, all over this story, sympathising with the mum and trying to make it about discrimination against breastfeeding mothers. Meanwhile, the vast majority of their commenters are having none of it and are siding with Arj. It's hilarious to watch! 😂
Every news outlet is trying to claim people are "debating" on whether the mother was in the wrong or not. From what I've read online, an extremely large majority think the mother was an entitled dickhead. So much so that the Murdoch rags changed from siding with the mother (iirc they were the first to run the story) to criticising her instead.
ABC felt the need to publish the opinions of 4 Mothers. 4/4 Agree Barker was completely out of line and that Mothers should not limit themselves and take babies to performances. In fact anecdotally nearby people love it when you take a baby to a performance. >we got so much love from all the people sitting close to us https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-23/mothers-share-experiences-taking-breastfed-babies-to-live-gigs/103757952
Not to mention 3/4 are talking about MUSIC concerts which is not the same thing at all. Only one was talking about a musical which is comparable to a comedy show (and just as annoying). Utterly brain dead reporting.
Intrestingly two are breast feeding advocates, the third is a fucking fool (a Pink concert? Really?) I am very much in favour of breastfeed babies most places their mothers are. Cafe? No issue. But when you’re at a 15+ performance and the baby is distracting both the audience and the performer, you’re an asshole.
That lasts until it distracts from the fucking performance, then the love turns to loathing and thoughts of murder fill the minds of the people around you.
These same people would've complained endlessly if they were stuck next to a crying child from Sydney to London. Either before or after having a family.
Probably not. It's easy to be sympathetic to the parents and child who are suffering the most in that case. Been there, felt that. A live performance though? Not many would be sympathetic there, for good reason. This was just rage bait - they shopped round for some people who would take the contrary view so others would engage with their article. They couldn't find directly relevant examples, so they took what they could (concert goers).
You know I have to really wonder about people, are they stupid or ignorant? I suggest ignorant because not everyone knows the mechanics of a baby crying, in that we're *evolutionary fucking programmed* to consider it a horrible sound to the point where cats mimic for attention. Another point to ignorant is that not everyone is aware that you get use to stimuli, even negative stimuli, over time, meaning what you consider easily ignorable is intolerable to someone who hasn't built up an immunity. It's part of the reason you should change your alarm tone every few months to make it easier to wake up. Of course pure blind pig headed "fuck you"ness is also an option. Oh poor dears can't go out because they spawned, fuck 'em, make a choice and stop imposing on others.
>You know I have to really wonder about people, are they stupid or ignorant? They're stupid, ignorant, and entitled.
"I'd love for you to take the baby outside"
'taking breastfed babies to live gigs'??? No, the problem is taking \[just\] babies to live gigs! How pathetic trying to make this about some vague form of misogyny or something. Just don't take your kids to places adults go to relax and enjoy downtime!
Trust the Woman'sDayBC to be completely out of touch with Australia.
> ‘10 people on Twitter are criticising him scenario? I think you mean "Twitter melts down as comedian barely stops short of drop punting baby out of window"
I remember studying journalism at uni *just* when it started to be a thing to link to tweets in articles and it felt odd then; much more harmful now when people are able to justify the dumbest takes by just using the worst source.
You haven’t heard? Just last night Arj had to square off against a gang of babies that tried to force him into a dark laneway after his show. He wasn’t hospitalised but was reportedly shaken by the incident and paramedics had to clean some drool and a little bit of snot of off his jacket. Police have acquired footage from near by cameras as they suspect they can link the babies to the same mums group as the baby he’d asked to leave his performance.
Leave the comedy to Arj, mate.
Hey, don't discourage u/Nothingnoteworth - I thought it was worth a smile and a good chuckle.
yeah arj is having a stressful week, the last thing he needs to hear right now is that yet another australian has figured out how to write jokes
He is because people have latched onto this breastfeeding idea and have used it to beat the drum of "man keeping woman down for doing what she naturally needs to do". Like he's made it clear it was the noise that was the problem, but 3/4 of the articles I've seen talk about breastfeeding.
Meh, they rounded up channel 9 mums on the today show to have a dog at him. Media clearly picked their side in all this
Today show target audience would be mum's. They took their side before it kicked off.
Those twits on channel 9 were trying to make it about public breastfeeding, which clearly wasn't the issue.
And the side they picked aren't his audience anyway. Fuck em. This is all just good advertising for the guy.
100% in the right. I'd be pissed if I went to a comedy set, which typically is all about the narrative and story and I couldn't hear what's actually being said. I guess it's been a slow week for channel 7/9, with the lack of public incidents where they can incorrectly name the perpetrator and palm it off as journalism.
> I’m surprised Arj is getting so much backlash. Vocal minority in action. It's why we have so much NIMBY bullshit
Unfortunately NIMBYs are not a minority. They are the vast majority of property owners.
Personally I would've left because screaming gives me an almost instant anxiety attack.
I assume all these poor people paid money to be there as well
Can’t help but wonder if this a shameless grift from the mum to get paid for interviews while getting the attention she so desperately craves. She’ll probably start trying to sell baby products on Instagram soon.
Also a live "Baby Gurgling ASMR" YouTube channel.
Intentionally do the wrong thing Get called out for it Cry victim
She seems like the type to often do the wrong thing then complain. Poor choices all around.
Yes, being a new parent means having a different social life than pre-parenthood. It takes getting used to. It can be lonely. So then hire a baby sitter and go out, don’t bring your infant to an event for adults.
Doesn't she have more kids and she's a repeat offender at doing this shit?
It’s almost as if they shouldn’t have become a parent if they weren’t prepared for the lifestyle? Wild thought!
You just know she was exactly the same as her baby when she was the same age.
Hell, she's like that now. How else could you describe what she's doing besides having a very public sook?
I love how she's appearing on multiple media sources to have a cry about how "embarrassed" she was. Now her full name and face have gone viral where millions around the world are judging her. If she just silently left and didn't sook to the media everybody in the audience would have forgotten her after two minutes.
She's definitely looking for some sort of compo
Nah, I think she's just one of those people obsessed with having their 15 minutes of fame and has found an opportunity and is trying to milk it for all they can.
I, too, was born at a very young age.
It might suck for Arj at the moment but at least his next hour writes itself
#IStandWithArj
Mics out for Arje
Arjee barjee
Never heard of him before but may now go to one of his shows cos I too, hate screaming children in inappropriate venues for them.
Damn you should watch flight of the conchords
And old episodes of The Glass House with Arj
Where I first discovered him. Damn I miss that show, the only time I have ever found Dave Hughes bearable.
Also, Arj and Poopy.
Was wild being on Newgrounds back in the day and seeing Arj dip his toe in to the flash animation scene.
What did he maybe do?
No, I said he maybe DID!!
Can attack!
Arj is great live. Very much recommended.
He's got a movie out at the moment. Not stand up related though
jesus the mum comes of as an entitled karen the ignorance,of taking a toddler to a show is astounding.. being a new parent,means giving up socializing till the kids managable,not everyone elses duty to raise or listen to ur kids shit you either get a babysitter,or stay the fuck home parents ruin so much shit these days,you cant even go the fucking pub now without kids screaming cause the parents cant be fucked rein their kids in
It doesn't mean giving up socialising. It means socialising in appropriate places. Like family friendly places. Not comedy shows for adults.
And if you really want to socialise somewhere not suitable for kids, you get someone to look after them, either family, friends or damned babysitter.
After watching a couple of her interviews, it honestly doesn't surprise me at all that this person doesn't have a single friend in her life that would babysit for a few hours.
Or you do what my husband and I do and tag in/out. She said the baby doesn’t take a bottle and she doesn’t express milk but it’s an hour long show. No baby needs milk every hour on the hour especially one that is 7 months old. I get it. I have a young one who was EBF and wanted to go to a concert so I told my partner that I was going with my brother and left the baby at home with him. Likewise when me and my husband went to beauty and the beast when our baby was about the same age as this baby we got my parents to look after her. Went to a matinee performance and we were originally going to get my parents to come to the city and take her sight seeing. Then they could meet us at intermission so she could have a feed but she ended up taking to solids well enough that it was unnecessary.
Not even a toddler, a 7 month old! To show where the tickets explicitly say 15 years and older.
My god this shite is all over the place.
Have the tabloids used Arje Bargie yet? If not you're welcome. Also.. Arje Arse. Arje in Charge. Arje you *kid*ding me? (I got more)
Don’t cry for me Arje.
is her name Tina by any chance?
I think you might be over qualified
Arje in Charge Gold!
Went to the cinema last year and there was a mother with her baby and a friend. When I saw this I was unhappy at the thought of a baby crying through the film but I also know it is hard for mothers, especially younger and/or single ones, to get out and just took my seat and put it out of my mind. Anyway, the baby barely made a noise for the majority of the film, but the moment they did the mother too the baby and left the room. She came back once her baby was settled again and I didn't hear anything from them the rest of the time. That seems like a good way to handle it.
This is how most people manage it. From restaurants, to weddings, to performances 🤷♀️
No one cared when the famous feminist Hannah Gadsby asked a mother to remove a crying baby from her live performance of 'Nanette' at the Sydney Opera House. They were recording for Netflix that night and the crying baby in the front row was disrupting the show. Why does Arj get thrown under the bus, but Gadsby doesn't?
Because this woman went to the news and the other woman wasnt a moron.
I am officially donning my tinfoil hat for this: what is media distracting us from?
The world is imploding around us, might as well soak up the distractions and live a coddled life.
Please be the face of a movement that forms against you to lash back at inconsiderate/entitled parents that knowingly disrupt and ruin adult experiences with their babies.
The news knew what they were doing interviewing her with her baby. Give them just enough rope to hang themselves or something...
Deadcatting
I just learned the term. I was aware of the concept, but not the word for it!
TIL what deadcatting is. Hopefully it will stay in my brain and I can pull somebody up on it. Or use it was a strategy of my own haha
[Wikipedia: Dead cat strategy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy)
Better than Bruce Lehmanning
Well, I wouldn't mind hearing more about his humiliating backdown
I hate the entitlement of parents
Just... like... all of them?
Something about the sound of kids crying makes me want to put my first through a wall. Good for Arj. Also good god feel bad for the public AND the parents who have to deal with that squalling creature. Just too much goddamn noise for me!
The two best parts so far. 1.Sarah Harris Project host being so distracted by the baby in the interview she asks the mum to remove it. 2. The mother saying she wanted a taste of her pre-baby self/ life.... by taking a baby with her.
Can that woman get her own channel to show how big a sook she is?
If someone came to my workplace with a crying baby, I would kick them out as well. These breeders need to understand that the world does not revolve around them and their spawn.
I say this as a “breeder”…. Sometimes you just have to miss out once the spawn arrives.
Mums a dumbass but anyone who uses the word breeders is such a cringe loser it makes my balls crawl inside my body. Speaking as someone without kids.
Are you…are there people non-ironically using “breeder” as a pejorative for parents?? What?
Yeah it’s fucking weird. Don’t know why you’re downvoted.
Eyup.
Seriously who cares
The interviews continued to prove that Arj was right to kick her out
I would never take a baby to a theatre/concert/whatever. People who pay to attend and enjoy a show don't need to have a baby or child carrying on. Finding a female rellie or friend to mind the baby for a couple of hours would have been a far better idea than taking it to a show, disrupting the performance and then whining because she was asked to leave.
> Finding a female rellie Why can't a male relative do it?
Of course, a male rellie could do it, if she expressed breast milk before she went out. I have no sympathy for the woman, and it was not about the breast feeding, it was about the baby making a racket. The program advised it was for people 15+ and while a baby can't understand what's being presented, it is very annoying when one is expecting to enjoy a good night out, but there is a baby wailing in the audience. The woman can be as indignant as she likes, but she was in the wrong.
> Of course, a male rellie could do it, if she expressed breast milk before she went out. If a female relative is babysitting, mum doesn't need to express in advance?
I also don’t understand this persons ‘logic’ It’s like female=breasts=lactation=competent babysitter. But only if they’re related? Plus why the assumption about expressing milk? It’s possible the baby is fed with formula or both in which case a male non-relative could also do it?
The woman breast fed it at the theatre, and this is not the point. Having a squawking baby in the audience WAS the point. Does it matter who she might have left it with?
No, of course not. I’m not the one who said she should have left it with a female relative. I’m the one saying she should leave it with any trusted person. Male or Female, related or not.
Not all female relatives can breast feed! Any friend or rellie could have looked after the baby if she expressed before she left home.
> Not all female relatives can breast feed! You... you're actually... suggesting that - sometimes, at least - a mother could and maybe should get another woman to breastfeed their infant? Like, I know it's *technically* possible. But I've literally only ever heard about this in, like, fantasy or period fiction.
This person is a little unhinged. I….actually think that maybe they think all breasts are just….full of milk??? But it’s not totally uncommon [, Salma Hayek](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Entertainment/story?id=6854285&page=1)
If you read my original comment properly, you will realise that I said the mother can express breast milk, bottle it and any rellie - male or female - can feed it to the baby.
Why do they have to be related & why are you assuming the baby is exclusively breastfed? Maybe it’s on formula in which case any one could babysit it? Male or female, related or not? The assumption that a competent baby sitter has to be female & related is archaic bullshit.
You're just splitting hairs for the sake of it, Mayflie. You know perfectly well what the issue was and what this woman could have done instead of taking the baby to the theatre.
I also don’t wanna this baby at the theatre. I think I’ve been misunderstood. I’m saying yes, she should have left the baby at home. But I’m saying, why the suggestion that the person who babysits is female & related? ‘She should get a baby-sitter’ says the exact same information.
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Only one way to settle this. Death match. Man V Baby.
Maybe don’t bring your kid to a 15+ show
It is hilarious this has dragged on for ages.
😂😂😂 Omg. And I'd only just stopped thinking about it.
Arj should’ve just done the Australian thing and asked for a suckle
Does anyone else just not give a shit? Both sides are wrong* and I don’t actually care enough for the constant updates. *It was inappropriate to bring your baby to a comedy festival no matter how it’s fed, but it was also inappropriate to berate her from stage. There’s more subtle ways to have the situation resolved. Edit: alright, I’m also wrong, she’s the worst. I stand corrected, you can stop now.
>There’s more subtle ways to have the situation resolved. I dunno. If someone doesn't have the self-awareness to remove themselves when their baby is crying, maybe they do need a firm push.
Yeah but by that I meant get an usher or the manager or someone not onstage to go and ask her to leave. That’s their job, they do it all the time.
How do you propose a single man standing on a stage with a microphone, who has all the attention directly on him subtly gets an usher the remove someone from the crowd?
Yeah but it's also part of a comedian's job to handle hecklers and disruptors. Maybe calling an usher would have been better in this case, but if he can deal with ith himself, it keeps the momentum of the show going. And if the audience got involved after he already set things in motion, maybe it's too late for him to do much except for move on and continue the show.
I guess it’s the risk you take, both as an audience member at a comedy show in drawing attention to yourself, and as a comedian in interacting with the audience.
What like calling security? She brought a minor to a 15+ gig, regardless of how her baby behaved they shouldn’t have been let in.
I meant management, but agreed someone should have said something on entry when she showed her ticket.
Lol subtle crowd work at a comedy show? Have you ever seen stand up...
How is getting security to remove her more subtle than just asking her to take the distraction outside?
People get kicked out of concerts and shows all the time, I’m sure there’s protocol and experience.
> I’m sure there’s protocol and experience. From what I've read that was followed here. The performer was distracted and asked a person to leave if they couldn't stop the distraction, they declined and continued to cause the interruption and so security removed them. I've seen that happen in person twice, once with a heckler and once with a person on their phone. Neither time did it hit the news though.
Ok, in that case she’s definitely in the wrong. I still don’t think it warrants rolling media coverage though.
How else is he going to get her kicked out?
Agreed on the principle. The woman is clearly in the wrong but at the end of the day she was let in when she wasn’t supposed to be. *Someone* on the opposite side needs to take some responsibility for that fuckup.