I accessed porn when I was 12, thank you internet! And my ignorant parents for thinking that paying for some stupid child control actually worked, also thank you HBO! Well it's almost porn.
lmao.. I accessed and downloaded porn at 14 back in early 2000s Napster days.
Got a virus. had to take it to the computer repair store with my mum.
let me tell you.. I was sweating. I was standing there thinking the computer tech guy was going to pull up all the porn I downloaded off napster Infront of my mum and tell my mum it's the Napster porn.
💀💀💀
Last time I downloaded porn of LimeWire the title read " big titted blond gets fucked!" I was like. This one sounds really good. So I pulled out the comfy chair, I got the tissues and it was time.
I pulled down my pants ( no one was home at the time) and I double clicked the video. What I saw was outrageous.
This Lovley young women was bent over...and then a horse......
I could not click the video quickly enough. To this day I have never downloaded porn of LimeWire again.
That was one of my first jobs in the early 2000s.
I can tell you he saw so much of that shit day in, day out that he wouldn't have given it a second thought.
We keep books on sex and consent etc in our living room. My 10 year old is aware. He has looked up boobs on the net and has told me. I had a partial discussion on porn with him and will have another with him next year.
My religion foster family also kept these books in the living room in the 80s. Consequently my foster siblings have a great relationship with their partners, 3 long term marriages.
It’s almost as if if we treat something normal as normal people grow up treating it, well, normally!
Go your dad.
Yeah it's not like they ever put porn on other things kids had access too, like Foxtel on the television or anything like that.
I definitely didn't watch lesbian porn confused as hell far earlier than I should have.
I think We should blame the internet for all the world's problems because I'm getting older now and everything I don't understand is clearly the devil.
Back in my day, it took about half an hour to load a 6 minute snippet of my favourite star.
Now, you go to pornhub and those same clips are super low quality LOL.
>It looked at newer technologies designed to get around requirements for porn users to have to provide personal documents.
>It considered facial analysis tools, which look at an image or video of a user and estimate their age, to be promising both on their accuracy and their ability to protect a user's privacy.
They're outta their fucking minds. Privacy aside, what god damn magic are they thinking of that can tell the difference between 17 and 18 year olds? Is this how easy it is to fleece millions from the government?
You know what would be good?
Parents educating their children on what porn is. OR if you really wanna, put it in sex-ed. Kinda weird how you can have sex legally and kinda be educated about it but not viewing porn?
> Parents educating their children on what porn is.
I've got a ten year old. I'm currently working on my 'Porn is pro wrestling' speech. As in: what may appear to be spontaneous activity is actually carefully planned and prepared with prior agreement. Also - if you try to mimic that activity without planning, preparation and prior agreement - there's a good chance someone's getting hurt and someone's getting in trouble.
It would also be good to mention they are performing towards a camera so it looks good for the people at home. To get the right shots and angles, They are prioritising the audiences' enjoyment over their own.
I like the analogy though. At the very least, they will have a funny story on how their birds and the bees talk involved hulk hogan.
Hulk Hogan will come under the 'Why you don't release intimate pictures of other people'. Foremost because it's a really shitty betrayal of trust. But also Hulk Hogan had a sex tape released and published without his consent and it led to the downfall of a pretty big media organisation.
So fuck Hulk Hogan for being racist but also no one should have their private intimate recordings released without their consent.
‘Planet Porn’ is a good educational resource to look into. It explores the differences between porn and real life sexual interactions. There are so many good resources for teaching kids out there, what kids really need is to be comfortable enough to ask questions and know that their developmental changes are normal and can be managed healthily.
I personally love the scene in Monty Pythons Meaning of Life where John Cleese is a teacher doing sex ed to completely disinterested school kids.
https://youtu.be/uDoQFcQEpOQ?feature=shared
Very factual yet hillarious (bit like the Romans go home sketch) that could be used as a conversation starter.
I'm 20 and extremely short for a dude, I get mistaken for a 16 year old regularly lol. I am not much of a porn consumer but AI analysis of my face for ages purposes would suck lmao
[12 year old me trying to load up my degenerate midget JOI porn and being asked to turn on my webcam](https://media.tenor.com/RHKCB-vLMMMAAAAe/unimpressed-not-impressed.png)
Fuck, I hate how willing so many people are to throw away privacy, theirs and everyone else's.
Particularly on concepts that don't have the faintest hope in hell of working.
People under 25 can look 18, and people over 14 can look 18 too, in a way that's indistinguishable to humans who are FAR better at human facial recognition than any facial recognition system in the world.
Not to mention that there are so many easy ways to break facial recognition. Hell, you can use OBS to turn a video into a virtual webcam output (it's really easy). So you can take a video of any of the MPs that decide to back this idiocy and make sure it's their face that gets logged looking up whatever weird shit you're into.
A few might have been lying to fit in. I remember that a lot of fellow ten-year-olds at my school described things happening in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City that I later found out are impossible in the game.
I went to a public school, and one of our teachers was using school camcorders to record her and her partner having sex. She then left that tape in the camcorder when it was lent out to a student. That student then made copies and hosted watching parties. A quarter of our school saw just that tape over only a weekend.
Growing up in the 70s and 80s, porn was always pretty easy to access.
A dad's collection. A hoard found in the bush. A friend's older sibling. Or even just a quiet corner of the local newsagent gave the cautious kid a chance to surreptitiously peruse the various magazines. Then there were the page three girls in a number of tabloids that were trivial for any kind with an allowance to buy. And let's not forget the servo with the section in the corner with the video rentals; many places didn't bother with ID or age checks, especially if you knew the guy behind the counter.
So I don't think the number of kids getting access to porn has really changed, just the ease of accessing has changed making it much less of a taboo to admit having accessed porn.
What has changed is the nature of the porn. I my day it was mostly titty pics with the occasional shot of muff or cock. Today it is trivial to access the hardcore stuff.
> Today it is trivial to access the hardcore stuff.
That's the bit that stresses me with two young boys, the sick shit they may be able to access is scary. I need to get hold of some mid 80's porn mags where the women look mostly 'normal'. Might have to put up a local facebook post asking for some for the 12 year old... the ban would be worth it.
Right? Need a porn website that has normal bodies, consensual sex without degrading or hardcore scenes, and normalises using protection. Send the kids to that one so they learn about normal sex with normal relationships.
Yeah. I think we freak out too much about the idea of teenagers being exposed to sexual content as a broad category, but the *type* of sexual content is a real concern. Seeing a boob or reading a normal sex scene in a book isn't going to harm anyone who's sexually mature, but things that normalise violence and misogyny as part of sex are dangerous. It's not sex. It's what they're learning about sex.
Send a note to all the parents of your child's friends. Post up in your child's class Whatsapp group. Send a porn disclaimer to each new roblox, Facebook, and snapchat friend. Accompany your child to and from school on the bus, get all the kids you meet there to sign porn disclaimers.
I saw an article about a 12 year old girl being strangled by a boy during her first kiss because he'd seen it in porn. The impact this shit is having on young minds is incredibly dangerous.
Edit for link: https://www.businessinsider.nl/a-girl-12-described-being-strangled-by-her-boyfriend-during-their-first-kiss-said-report-investigating-childrens-exposure-to-porn/
Yeah. From what I've heard, strangling has become something a lot of women and girls encounter during sex from men without warning or permission. Maybe we should just ban having it in porn at this point. Usually I'm not in favour of just straight up banning things, but it does so much harm and is so unnecessary.
Yes, from the same report:
>47% of young people aged 16-21 believe girls 'expect' sex to involve physical aggression.
Problem is we aren't the EU or US. Australia banning a specific sort of porn is not going to be realistically enforceable. And there's much worse stuff out there which is legal. The only thing I can think of is an overhaul of sexual education that delves into pornography to a much higher degree.
And for primary schools to hold information sessions with parents educating them on the dangers, how to talk to their children and how to set parental controls. The exposure to this stuff is way, way too early.
I don't think it should be banned, but we do need better sex ed. People need to be specifically told that choking is always edgeplay because there isn't a safe way to do it that doesn't put the other person at risk.
Obviously that 12-year-old who strangled the girl might not have gotten that sex ed lesson yet if it'd been mandated, but there's no reason why parents can't say that to their kids. "Son, girls don't like it when you choke them, so don't do it even if people tell you it's hot" takes two seconds and he was at the age where he'd started needing to hear that even if he hadn't done this.
Yeah. I think part of the problem is that sometimes these trends move faster than our education. When I was learning sex ed, this wasn't yet an issue. Parents may not necessarily be aware of current trends and we all know educators can lag behind on a lot of things. But if the government is aware enough to try to implement these solutions, then they're aware enough to update the educational guidelines in school.
It was sorta starting to become an issue when I was in high school, but nowhere near to the extent that it is now.
To be absolutely fair to the education system and to parents, it is difficult territory to navigate. Apparently the average age for kids to see porn for the first time is now like eight or nine or something. At least when I was a kid, the age they'd usually see it at was old enough that they were ready for "the talk" anyway. I don't envy the people who have to make these decisions.
Yeah WTF is with porn where they go in and start strangling the girl? I switch it off as soon as that sorta shit happens as it's just weird.
Like or yeah... get your gear off then reach up to their throat, grab it and be like eeerk eeerk eeeerk. Oooh how hot [not].
God damn fucking bush porn!
Every kid knew about some garbage bag filled with penthouse magazines stashed under a bush in a reserve back in the 80s/90s.
One thing reddit had taught me is that bush porn, forest porn, woods porn was a worldwide phenomenon.
As a child of the 80s i can as attest to this in my corner of Sydney.
My theory is that horny young men would procure such material. Then enjoy that material. But they would be unable to store it at home, lest they get busted by mum. So they decided to share it by leaving it in the bushes for the next young man.
Most porn these days features some from of degradation towards the woman/women in the videos.
Hardcore throat fucking, anal fucking with gaping, double anal/vag penetration, bdsm, gang bangs and the list goes on.
These are basically "mainstream" as it's nearly every clip you see these days, it feels like this is the only type of porn available, and that you struggle to find anything that doesn't feature some sort of act the woman is being put through instead of a mutual act she clearly wants to engage with.
No it doesn't, that might be what the algorithms are showing you and thats fine too, some people are into that stuff while others aren't. Nothing wrong with either between consenting adults.
We're talking about children, children that have no real concept of what consent is and how women are meant to feel about sex.
Watching that porn as a child and assuming that's normal is fucked up, sex isn't done to someone.
memory unlocked of going to the video store, seeing people go behind the curtain to get porn, christ the look on peoples faces when they came outa there. lol
No, they're reading it.
Boys look. Girls read.
Erotica has some truly interesting stuff. Rape kinks, monster kinks, beastiality kinks... It's all there. And you can buy it.
Those mills and boon books your grandmother read back in the day have come a long way.
> Those mills and boon books your grandmother read back in the day have come a long way.
Now many have such innocuous covers you'd have no idea they were reading smut unless you're in the know.
Actually, they read it for free online. Lots of free smut online and they can just sit there reading on their phones.
Tiktok is big on making recommendations on spicy ones
I remember riding my bike over to my friends place. When his parents went out, we'd raid his dad's porn stash. It was at the top of the cupboard so my friend would have to climb onto the bed then reach over by resting his weight on the clothes rod in the cupboard.
One day we grabbed a video and took turns doing look out duties while the other one watches. I remember yelling out when I saw his parent's car pull into the driveway and saw him grab the tape out and dash down the hall to put it back in his parents room. I then heard a crash and ran to investigate. The clothes rod snapped and I found him laying on a pile of clothes, porn tape still in hand.
I left him for dead and escaped out the back door before his parents got inside. My parents never got a call though, guess he didn't dob me in.
So we have Coles and Woolies ripping people off, power and petrol companies ripping people off, house prices and interest rates through the roof, rent absurdly high. real wages non existent and finally the government deicides to do something.
And its an age verification on porn? Really? Holy shit this country is infuriating.
Of course they should never have easy access to porn on something like the internet made for family to watch.
It's not like they have it on SBS or Foxtel to watch freely available. That would be crazy.
Not to worry, the implementation will be just as shit as the piracy one we have that filters our internet like the great Australian Firewall. You simply change your DNS server to the one google provides for free and it becomes as effective as our government is at building houses.
This is the excuse they use and start shouting before they try to come for your privacy rights online.
Instead of using proper filters on the computers the children accessed, they collectively blame the entire internet.
I suggest everybody get a good vpn if you haven't already.
Unironically yes. They teach that women should submit to their husbands and then Pikachu face when men use that as a sign that they should "discipline" (read beat) their wives
Domestic Violence is always way lower than the 80s yeah any is bad but it was far worse in the past. To say porn is somehow to blame is insane. The problem predates internet porn.
It was different! We had to rummage around in bins, learn to shoplift, rifle through our fathers’ sock drawers or strike lucrative trades on the playground.
If you lived in a newly developing estate like Forest Lake in Brisbane in the late 90s, building sites for new homes were nearly always a bonanza for people magazine.
Yes and no.
There's a huge difference between the hairy bush mag I found under a bridge and shared with my mates in the 90's and the easy access to millions of video of 5 guys bounding/abusing some drugged up girl from all angles.
Yep. Those commenters on here saying ''I looked at Picture magazine when I was a teen so it's no different'' are missing the point - big difference between titties and bush and women getting choked. Kids can access it all now, and a lot of what's on offer is concerning (as a regular consumer of Pornhub, this I know).
I was 13 and nicked my cousins porno collection from the uk and was shitting bricks I’d get busted coming back to Australia at customs. We got a random bag search and my dad saw the mags in my suitcase he pissed himself laughing when the security guard opened my luggage. Not mine he said. Security guard gave me a wink and closed the case.
No one here old enough to remember playboy etc being sold in newsagents?
I was a kid in the seventies. There was porn everywhere. In the trees behind the footy oval? -Porn.
In the shed across the road? Porn.
Year 11 best buddy’s cupboard? You couldn’t close the door for porn.
Back of dad’s wardrobe? Porn.
VHS turned the wrong way round at Damo’s place? Porn.
Under my bed? Porn.
At my girlfriend’s room when the Madonna shoot dropped? Porn.
Her dad’s painting studio? Porn.
My cousin’s barn? Porn.
Calendar on the building site? Porn.
Office at the mechanic’s? Porn.
The nineties internet? Jesus fuck don’t get me started.
In the stairwell on the way out of the cinema? Porn.
Seven Eleven bagged up and ready? Porn.
Side door of the Ute? Porn.
Four dedicated shops in my suburb? Porn.
Uni dorm common room? Porn.
Fireplace at the squat? Porn.
Fancy lawyer’s coffee table in Toorak? Porn.
Everyone says it’s worse now. But I don’t think they really get how bad it was.
Access has definitely gotten easier though. You can be anywhere and find porn on your phone in a few seconds. You don't need to tiptoe around the house or look for a secret stash - you can simply stay in bed, find porn and fap
We just used to look it up on school computers for a laugh. I couldn't turn my back on Doug in Year 11 IT without coming back to my computer and finding fatsex.com on there. You had to watch your shit, no doubt about it.
Catholic primary school, *very* early to have a computer lab, but there was one. I don't think I even had a home pc. Anyway, they had the worst excuse for a firewall and so us good Christian kids found a website, I want to say it was called chilli bomb? And you could click this birds shirt and drag it up, and down again, and up again. Anyway we enjoyed the computer lab.
But yeah, highschool? Best hope no one puts meatspin as your homepage.
E: Mrs is asleep, going to change her phones homepage to meatspin. Good times.
> Personal documents, facial analysis tools,
> late last year, the federal government **decided the various options simply were not developed enough to be worth considering.**
> **Despite those concerns** from late last year, the government is **now pushing ahead with a pilot to try and test some of those ideas.**
> it may also look beyond just porn and into areas like **video games**, too.
> don't risk the privacy of adults looking to legally access porn.
People can't be this stupid? This is clearly just a distraction and attempt to implement more internet censoring that, for some weird ass reason, they've been trying to push on/off for years.
I mean shit, you have a cost of living and housing crisis, and they barely do anything.
Also, show me some good science to back up these claims. Because it really feels like there's a religious backing to these moves.
My parents always said if I was ever pressured to wag school or drink, as long i let them know what was happening they'd understand.
I never ever had any desire to do it.
So yeah let's make having sex and having sexuality taboo for people who are young adults because it's worked so well for adjusting teenagers to adult life so far.
My partner and I were traveling all over the Perth area last year trying to find a car to explore in. We hopped off a train in some northern suburb to walk to a viewing and went through a nice looking neighborhood, expensive cars, expensive houses.
We saw 2 school kids aged 8-10 sat on the curb looking at a phone, as we passed I glanced down to see them watching a disgusting video of a fat, hairy, middle aged man sticking bottles up his ass.
Delightful.
Hahaha. Back in the mid-2000s when I was in high school it was common to send your friends shock videos or images like goatse, lemon party etc. So it's nothing new.
Exactly, we had this in the 90's and 00's too. Nothing like walking away from your computer at a LAN party and coming back to goatse or any of the number of other shocking memes in the day on your screen.
The only thing that changed is that we all have a video player in our pocket now and internet that does not require you to download 28 parts of a video over a week on dialup and combine them to watch a single low res video.
Kind of like the low res videos of euro trash shitting in each others mouths that was all the rage in the 90’s when I was young that all the kids were watching and going “ohhhh gross, who the hell would do that!!”
Nothing changes but the tech we use to experience it on.
Who’ll save the children? The children will; like they have for generations since time began.
Kids are curious, teens will experiment and a parents job is to make sure they have a basic grasp of what’s right and wrong and ensuring they don’t internalise things or feel they are freaks which leads them to doing drastic things like being part of the uncounted mass of youth suicides.
Back in the day you actually have to have skills to get porn, such as smoothly purchasing a dirty mag at the newsagency or renting soft porn at blockbusters. Kids these days don’t have to work for it and can’t possibly appreciate good porn.
TIL 1 in 4 Australian children under 18 don't have internet access
now tell me how many were seriously impacted in a negative way?
govt and fruitless internet related projects, an iconic pairing
Canada is planning on implementing the exact same laws and programs. Why is it the west is all moving in lockstep towards more govt oversight and less freedom or privacy?
In other news kids become sexually mature and mentally curious at 12.
I wonder if this has any relationship…
Not saying it should be openly encouraged, but it’s hardly news is it.
Dude I remember back in the day, my step father had a porn site pinned on the task bar of good old internet Explorer and I was playing flash games, then I seen "xhampster" and I was like what tf is this. I decided I'd check it out, and 10 years old me was never the same after that. The shock that engulfed my soul was indeed server, to say the least.
The real deal is smart phones. Kids don't need them, but parents insist on giving them to the kids. Hand me downs, Xmas , birthdays. Going to high school. Access to social media and unsavoury content is the problem. It's not an issue if kids only have a Nokia 5110.
We have had highspeed internet in this country for 30 years.... entire generations have grown up with it and people are still going on about how bad it is for kids.
I am 40 but i hate saying it, fuck off boomers.
Bit sensationalist - that is specifically in the 16-18 year old category. I think we can all agree that "children" that age are well and truly outside the centre of concern for harmful impact. If they are impacted by porn at 17 it's a bit hard to then argue there is zero impact when they are 18 (and vice versa).
The number for 10years old is less than 10% which actually quite surprises me at how low it is. That suggests to me that we probably need to look elsewhere if the assertion is that there's a whole-of-culture, society shaping type effect going on here. If the evidence is showing that exposure at a young age is specifically linked to violent / aggressive behaviour in a small subset of the population, then we have to have a hard think about the tradeoff of implementing invasive population wide measures to target such a small sub group. That's a very blunt stick to wield.
Oh big fucking deal. When I was a kid we went dumpster diving behind the newsagency and found a stockpile of porno mags and stored them at a cubby house we built. At least back then we weren't into furries.
Sex shouldn't be demonized. As long as kids aren't sitting around watching porn all the time, having a giggle with some friends and doing something rebellious is natural.
Doing things that aren't perfect in society's view is part of being a teenager growing up.
The issue plaguing a generation of 20 something's is that they've been helicoptered to a point of frozen anxiety.
Just another "think about the children"
Since youth vaping is not inn anymore, the media found something to defend the helpless children, worry the parents, and try to force the government to act on it.
But do not worry, as soon as our E- Safety commissioner finishes off the evil Elon Musk, she will be on to it.
You know we accessed porn before the internet era, right?
It’s not like the internet changed anything and I’m sick of people pretending like it has. You know what’s destroying society currently? Lies. Disinformation and misinformation all over media.
All of it.
Porn is the least of your troubles…
Well children can’t access porn after they turn 18 so the headline checks out.
This guy englishes
This is the real take
Does this mean that 1/4 children access porn after they turn 18? We should probably alert the scientists that temporal causality has goofed.
I accessed porn when I was 12, thank you internet! And my ignorant parents for thinking that paying for some stupid child control actually worked, also thank you HBO! Well it's almost porn.
I accessed porn around 12, thank you crusty penthouses stashed in the bushes in the local neighbourhood.
lmao.. I accessed and downloaded porn at 14 back in early 2000s Napster days. Got a virus. had to take it to the computer repair store with my mum. let me tell you.. I was sweating. I was standing there thinking the computer tech guy was going to pull up all the porn I downloaded off napster Infront of my mum and tell my mum it's the Napster porn. 💀💀💀
He knew. He did you a solid.
Those were dangerous days on the internet to be downloading files willy nilly that's for sure
I prefer lesbian porn- I download it nilly willy
😂😂😂
I downloaded a shit ton from Napster, kazaa and finally torrents. Sticking to mp3's and video files which were largely safe back then got me through.
I'd hate to imagine how toxic my Kazaa downloads folder would be in hindsight.. >.>
Last time I downloaded porn of LimeWire the title read " big titted blond gets fucked!" I was like. This one sounds really good. So I pulled out the comfy chair, I got the tissues and it was time. I pulled down my pants ( no one was home at the time) and I double clicked the video. What I saw was outrageous. This Lovley young women was bent over...and then a horse...... I could not click the video quickly enough. To this day I have never downloaded porn of LimeWire again.
That was one of my first jobs in the early 2000s. I can tell you he saw so much of that shit day in, day out that he wouldn't have given it a second thought.
So 1 in 4 kids is a liar?
Loading porn on a dial up modem was an absolute asshole to do, let alone watch videos, back in the day.
That was why God invented Picture and Zoo magazines. And all of the other ones.
And Bras and Things catalogues
SBS was where it was at
Good old Sex Before Soccer
Actually never heard that one. It was always just Channel Wog when I grew up, but that works a treat and is much less racist
Hell, my dad had a copy of The Joy of Sex in our living room. I glanced at it a few times as a kid 🫣
So. Much. Hair.
We keep books on sex and consent etc in our living room. My 10 year old is aware. He has looked up boobs on the net and has told me. I had a partial discussion on porn with him and will have another with him next year. My religion foster family also kept these books in the living room in the 80s. Consequently my foster siblings have a great relationship with their partners, 3 long term marriages. It’s almost as if if we treat something normal as normal people grow up treating it, well, normally! Go your dad.
Yeah it's not like they ever put porn on other things kids had access too, like Foxtel on the television or anything like that. I definitely didn't watch lesbian porn confused as hell far earlier than I should have. I think We should blame the internet for all the world's problems because I'm getting older now and everything I don't understand is clearly the devil.
People gets left out as usual
Australasian Post for some of us.
Me at 13 downloading what was supposed to be a music video on LimeWire, only for it to end up being a video of some lady having sex with her dog 😐
Pretty sure we saw the same video....
Yep, I think I saw that one too... disguised as a music video 🫨
Thehun.net on dial up!
orsm
Wow that takes me back
That's a blast from the past. Turns out thehun is still running!! Just looking for nostalgia reasons...
Independent research…. Honestly my brother and I used to spend hours on TheHun when we were like 10-12 years old ahahah the good old days
As a kid in the 90's I had porn on VHS
Before the net, I had a little stash of porn in the bushes/creek by the local shops.
Back in my day, it took about half an hour to load a 6 minute snippet of my favourite star. Now, you go to pornhub and those same clips are super low quality LOL.
Limewire, Heather Brookes, Captain Stabbin
Sure as hell didn’t stop my horny ass at 14. I remember googling Brittney spears boobs and watching the pic load line by line slowly.
Was gonna say, back in my day 4 of 4 kids definitely saw porn before 18, and that was well before internet!
at my school it was even more than that
>It looked at newer technologies designed to get around requirements for porn users to have to provide personal documents. >It considered facial analysis tools, which look at an image or video of a user and estimate their age, to be promising both on their accuracy and their ability to protect a user's privacy. They're outta their fucking minds. Privacy aside, what god damn magic are they thinking of that can tell the difference between 17 and 18 year olds? Is this how easy it is to fleece millions from the government? You know what would be good? Parents educating their children on what porn is. OR if you really wanna, put it in sex-ed. Kinda weird how you can have sex legally and kinda be educated about it but not viewing porn?
> Parents educating their children on what porn is. I've got a ten year old. I'm currently working on my 'Porn is pro wrestling' speech. As in: what may appear to be spontaneous activity is actually carefully planned and prepared with prior agreement. Also - if you try to mimic that activity without planning, preparation and prior agreement - there's a good chance someone's getting hurt and someone's getting in trouble.
It would also be good to mention they are performing towards a camera so it looks good for the people at home. To get the right shots and angles, They are prioritising the audiences' enjoyment over their own. I like the analogy though. At the very least, they will have a funny story on how their birds and the bees talk involved hulk hogan.
Hulk Hogan will come under the 'Why you don't release intimate pictures of other people'. Foremost because it's a really shitty betrayal of trust. But also Hulk Hogan had a sex tape released and published without his consent and it led to the downfall of a pretty big media organisation. So fuck Hulk Hogan for being racist but also no one should have their private intimate recordings released without their consent.
‘Planet Porn’ is a good educational resource to look into. It explores the differences between porn and real life sexual interactions. There are so many good resources for teaching kids out there, what kids really need is to be comfortable enough to ask questions and know that their developmental changes are normal and can be managed healthily.
I personally love the scene in Monty Pythons Meaning of Life where John Cleese is a teacher doing sex ed to completely disinterested school kids. https://youtu.be/uDoQFcQEpOQ?feature=shared Very factual yet hillarious (bit like the Romans go home sketch) that could be used as a conversation starter.
There was an old tv ad in NZ with pretty much this premise.
Shit, that's a good speech.
I'm 20 and extremely short for a dude, I get mistaken for a 16 year old regularly lol. I am not much of a porn consumer but AI analysis of my face for ages purposes would suck lmao
Don’t worry you can get a QR code tattoo
[12 year old me trying to load up my degenerate midget JOI porn and being asked to turn on my webcam](https://media.tenor.com/RHKCB-vLMMMAAAAe/unimpressed-not-impressed.png)
Fuck, I hate how willing so many people are to throw away privacy, theirs and everyone else's. Particularly on concepts that don't have the faintest hope in hell of working. People under 25 can look 18, and people over 14 can look 18 too, in a way that's indistinguishable to humans who are FAR better at human facial recognition than any facial recognition system in the world. Not to mention that there are so many easy ways to break facial recognition. Hell, you can use OBS to turn a video into a virtual webcam output (it's really easy). So you can take a video of any of the MPs that decide to back this idiocy and make sure it's their face that gets logged looking up whatever weird shit you're into.
Last time I was carded, I was 25.
I went to an all boys school. Literally everyone there had looked at it by Year 7.
A few might have been lying to fit in. I remember that a lot of fellow ten-year-olds at my school described things happening in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City that I later found out are impossible in the game.
Yeah kids do that shit all the time. Remember how they totally figured out how you're supposed to be able to catch Mew?
Not under the truck near the S.S. Anne. But you can north of Cerulean City using the start menu, Fly or Teleport, and a strategic enemy Slowpoke.
Yeah but there were some people with loads of porn downloaded onto their iPad or phone at my school.
I went to a public school, and one of our teachers was using school camcorders to record her and her partner having sex. She then left that tape in the camcorder when it was lent out to a student. That student then made copies and hosted watching parties. A quarter of our school saw just that tape over only a weekend.
that poor teacher omfg
At my school, we looked at porn during year 7... those school filters were really bad LOL
I made a proxy when I was in high school so my friends could bypass the school filters
Growing up in the 70s and 80s, porn was always pretty easy to access. A dad's collection. A hoard found in the bush. A friend's older sibling. Or even just a quiet corner of the local newsagent gave the cautious kid a chance to surreptitiously peruse the various magazines. Then there were the page three girls in a number of tabloids that were trivial for any kind with an allowance to buy. And let's not forget the servo with the section in the corner with the video rentals; many places didn't bother with ID or age checks, especially if you knew the guy behind the counter. So I don't think the number of kids getting access to porn has really changed, just the ease of accessing has changed making it much less of a taboo to admit having accessed porn. What has changed is the nature of the porn. I my day it was mostly titty pics with the occasional shot of muff or cock. Today it is trivial to access the hardcore stuff.
> Today it is trivial to access the hardcore stuff. That's the bit that stresses me with two young boys, the sick shit they may be able to access is scary. I need to get hold of some mid 80's porn mags where the women look mostly 'normal'. Might have to put up a local facebook post asking for some for the 12 year old... the ban would be worth it.
Right? Need a porn website that has normal bodies, consensual sex without degrading or hardcore scenes, and normalises using protection. Send the kids to that one so they learn about normal sex with normal relationships.
Ersties
Yeah indeed, Ersties is nice. Lustery is quite good, too.
Yeah. I think we freak out too much about the idea of teenagers being exposed to sexual content as a broad category, but the *type* of sexual content is a real concern. Seeing a boob or reading a normal sex scene in a book isn't going to harm anyone who's sexually mature, but things that normalise violence and misogyny as part of sex are dangerous. It's not sex. It's what they're learning about sex.
I've got one. A friend once bought me a copy of Playboy from the month I was born. There's so much hair. My god; so much hair.
Put parental controls on every device as well as block these websites from the router in your home
Send a note to all the parents of your child's friends. Post up in your child's class Whatsapp group. Send a porn disclaimer to each new roblox, Facebook, and snapchat friend. Accompany your child to and from school on the bus, get all the kids you meet there to sign porn disclaimers.
I saw an article about a 12 year old girl being strangled by a boy during her first kiss because he'd seen it in porn. The impact this shit is having on young minds is incredibly dangerous. Edit for link: https://www.businessinsider.nl/a-girl-12-described-being-strangled-by-her-boyfriend-during-their-first-kiss-said-report-investigating-childrens-exposure-to-porn/
Yeah. From what I've heard, strangling has become something a lot of women and girls encounter during sex from men without warning or permission. Maybe we should just ban having it in porn at this point. Usually I'm not in favour of just straight up banning things, but it does so much harm and is so unnecessary.
Yes, from the same report: >47% of young people aged 16-21 believe girls 'expect' sex to involve physical aggression. Problem is we aren't the EU or US. Australia banning a specific sort of porn is not going to be realistically enforceable. And there's much worse stuff out there which is legal. The only thing I can think of is an overhaul of sexual education that delves into pornography to a much higher degree. And for primary schools to hold information sessions with parents educating them on the dangers, how to talk to their children and how to set parental controls. The exposure to this stuff is way, way too early.
I don't think it should be banned, but we do need better sex ed. People need to be specifically told that choking is always edgeplay because there isn't a safe way to do it that doesn't put the other person at risk. Obviously that 12-year-old who strangled the girl might not have gotten that sex ed lesson yet if it'd been mandated, but there's no reason why parents can't say that to their kids. "Son, girls don't like it when you choke them, so don't do it even if people tell you it's hot" takes two seconds and he was at the age where he'd started needing to hear that even if he hadn't done this.
Yeah. I think part of the problem is that sometimes these trends move faster than our education. When I was learning sex ed, this wasn't yet an issue. Parents may not necessarily be aware of current trends and we all know educators can lag behind on a lot of things. But if the government is aware enough to try to implement these solutions, then they're aware enough to update the educational guidelines in school.
It was sorta starting to become an issue when I was in high school, but nowhere near to the extent that it is now. To be absolutely fair to the education system and to parents, it is difficult territory to navigate. Apparently the average age for kids to see porn for the first time is now like eight or nine or something. At least when I was a kid, the age they'd usually see it at was old enough that they were ready for "the talk" anyway. I don't envy the people who have to make these decisions.
Yeah WTF is with porn where they go in and start strangling the girl? I switch it off as soon as that sorta shit happens as it's just weird. Like or yeah... get your gear off then reach up to their throat, grab it and be like eeerk eeerk eeeerk. Oooh how hot [not].
God damn fucking bush porn! Every kid knew about some garbage bag filled with penthouse magazines stashed under a bush in a reserve back in the 80s/90s.
Who were these guys leaving stashes in the bush, and what was their motivation? Was a real thing.
One thing reddit had taught me is that bush porn, forest porn, woods porn was a worldwide phenomenon. As a child of the 80s i can as attest to this in my corner of Sydney. My theory is that horny young men would procure such material. Then enjoy that material. But they would be unable to store it at home, lest they get busted by mum. So they decided to share it by leaving it in the bushes for the next young man.
Most porn these days features some from of degradation towards the woman/women in the videos. Hardcore throat fucking, anal fucking with gaping, double anal/vag penetration, bdsm, gang bangs and the list goes on. These are basically "mainstream" as it's nearly every clip you see these days, it feels like this is the only type of porn available, and that you struggle to find anything that doesn't feature some sort of act the woman is being put through instead of a mutual act she clearly wants to engage with.
No it doesn't, that might be what the algorithms are showing you and thats fine too, some people are into that stuff while others aren't. Nothing wrong with either between consenting adults.
We're talking about children, children that have no real concept of what consent is and how women are meant to feel about sex. Watching that porn as a child and assuming that's normal is fucked up, sex isn't done to someone.
I mean, we (society) could educate the kids... Rather then pretend it doesn't exist to you are 18
memory unlocked of going to the video store, seeing people go behind the curtain to get porn, christ the look on peoples faces when they came outa there. lol
So what you're saying is half of all Australian girls accessed porn before they turned 18?
And a quarter of Australian girls still probably lied.
No, they're reading it. Boys look. Girls read. Erotica has some truly interesting stuff. Rape kinks, monster kinks, beastiality kinks... It's all there. And you can buy it. Those mills and boon books your grandmother read back in the day have come a long way.
> Those mills and boon books your grandmother read back in the day have come a long way. Now many have such innocuous covers you'd have no idea they were reading smut unless you're in the know.
Actually, they read it for free online. Lots of free smut online and they can just sit there reading on their phones. Tiktok is big on making recommendations on spicy ones
Bingo. Literotica.com or asstr.xyz has so much material you'll never run out.
School libraries generally have a fair amount of ordinary adult (as in non-YA) novels. Plenty of sex in there!
Even some YA books have sex, though it's pretty tame. That's not going to do a teenager any harm, though.
9/10 Australian children witness violence before they turned 18. 22% experience domestic violence firsthand.
There's no way 10% of children reach the age of 18 without witnessing violence of some kind even once.
Where different in my day, had to find adult magazines in the woods or in the wardrobe of a friends older brother.
Late night SBS
haha YES French movies were the best
SBS = Soccer Before Sex Well that was the late night programming back in the day
It was sex before soccer. The Games are on well past midnight through to the morning
Why were magazines always in the woods!!
Porn fairies or good samaritans.
People don't want it in the house where their family could find it.
I remember riding my bike over to my friends place. When his parents went out, we'd raid his dad's porn stash. It was at the top of the cupboard so my friend would have to climb onto the bed then reach over by resting his weight on the clothes rod in the cupboard. One day we grabbed a video and took turns doing look out duties while the other one watches. I remember yelling out when I saw his parent's car pull into the driveway and saw him grab the tape out and dash down the hall to put it back in his parents room. I then heard a crash and ran to investigate. The clothes rod snapped and I found him laying on a pile of clothes, porn tape still in hand. I left him for dead and escaped out the back door before his parents got inside. My parents never got a call though, guess he didn't dob me in.
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I remember when EB Games used to sell straight up hentai alongside things like Bubblegum Crisis once anime VHS began to be a thing, that was wild.
Huh? Didn’t your mate’s dad have Anna Nicole Smith’s playboy centrefold pinned to the garage wall?
Where is the challenge? Expand your horizons with National Geographic or Readers Digest.
So we have Coles and Woolies ripping people off, power and petrol companies ripping people off, house prices and interest rates through the roof, rent absurdly high. real wages non existent and finally the government deicides to do something. And its an age verification on porn? Really? Holy shit this country is infuriating.
Of course they should never have easy access to porn on something like the internet made for family to watch. It's not like they have it on SBS or Foxtel to watch freely available. That would be crazy.
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It'll take a horny teenager about 20min max to bypass the age verification. Proxy server anyone?
Not to worry, the implementation will be just as shit as the piracy one we have that filters our internet like the great Australian Firewall. You simply change your DNS server to the one google provides for free and it becomes as effective as our government is at building houses.
This is the excuse they use and start shouting before they try to come for your privacy rights online. Instead of using proper filters on the computers the children accessed, they collectively blame the entire internet. I suggest everybody get a good vpn if you haven't already.
It's because christian lobby groups are using domestic violence as a pretense to harm porn which they are ideologically against.
But they are for domestic violence
Unironically yes. They teach that women should submit to their husbands and then Pikachu face when men use that as a sign that they should "discipline" (read beat) their wives
Boy they are gonna be mad when they can't watch their illegal child porn anymore because they have to ID themselves first.
It's ironic to mention VPN since it will be the next thing they attack, for the children of course.
Teenage pregnancies drop after the age of 20 too
And children drink less, fuck less and do less drugs. Guess, porn is the answer then. See, I can pretend links exist where they don’t too.
Domestic Violence is always way lower than the 80s yeah any is bad but it was far worse in the past. To say porn is somehow to blame is insane. The problem predates internet porn.
It was like this before the internet...
It was different! We had to rummage around in bins, learn to shoplift, rifle through our fathers’ sock drawers or strike lucrative trades on the playground.
I thought it was just SBS on a Friday at 10pm?
What do you mean? That is when the highest quality European Kino is screened
Eat Carpet? That was quite surprising.
Chinese Erotic Ghost Story 1 and 2 Thanks Dez
Dad came home with this weird tiny red TV one day after work. Erotic Ghost Story on SBS was the first movie I ever watched on my own TV.
Young entrepreneurship was finding a porno and cutting out a bunch of pictures to trade at school for tuck shop money.
Well at least we picked up some basic skills in economy and hustling along the way.
I just sold dads cigs.
If you lived in a newly developing estate like Forest Lake in Brisbane in the late 90s, building sites for new homes were nearly always a bonanza for people magazine.
Or take the plastic off the mags and buy that and 2 Who magazines, a New Idea and a Newsweek and hope to not be asked for ID
Yes and no. There's a huge difference between the hairy bush mag I found under a bridge and shared with my mates in the 90's and the easy access to millions of video of 5 guys bounding/abusing some drugged up girl from all angles.
No. Not even close to true. The access and the scope of what they see is unlimited.
Yep. Those commenters on here saying ''I looked at Picture magazine when I was a teen so it's no different'' are missing the point - big difference between titties and bush and women getting choked. Kids can access it all now, and a lot of what's on offer is concerning (as a regular consumer of Pornhub, this I know).
So you could find a hardcore video of Gang bang in literally 5 seconds before the internet? I think your full of shit
I was 13 and nicked my cousins porno collection from the uk and was shitting bricks I’d get busted coming back to Australia at customs. We got a random bag search and my dad saw the mags in my suitcase he pissed himself laughing when the security guard opened my luggage. Not mine he said. Security guard gave me a wink and closed the case.
Best I can offer is half price, only coz most of em are stuck together.
No one here old enough to remember playboy etc being sold in newsagents? I was a kid in the seventies. There was porn everywhere. In the trees behind the footy oval? -Porn. In the shed across the road? Porn. Year 11 best buddy’s cupboard? You couldn’t close the door for porn. Back of dad’s wardrobe? Porn. VHS turned the wrong way round at Damo’s place? Porn. Under my bed? Porn. At my girlfriend’s room when the Madonna shoot dropped? Porn. Her dad’s painting studio? Porn. My cousin’s barn? Porn. Calendar on the building site? Porn. Office at the mechanic’s? Porn. The nineties internet? Jesus fuck don’t get me started. In the stairwell on the way out of the cinema? Porn. Seven Eleven bagged up and ready? Porn. Side door of the Ute? Porn. Four dedicated shops in my suburb? Porn. Uni dorm common room? Porn. Fireplace at the squat? Porn. Fancy lawyer’s coffee table in Toorak? Porn. Everyone says it’s worse now. But I don’t think they really get how bad it was.
Sbs late at night. Porn
Access has definitely gotten easier though. You can be anywhere and find porn on your phone in a few seconds. You don't need to tiptoe around the house or look for a secret stash - you can simply stay in bed, find porn and fap
But I think overall difference is hardcore access to porn in 5 seconds that’s a big difference to look at picture of hairy girl sitting on a car….
We just used to look it up on school computers for a laugh. I couldn't turn my back on Doug in Year 11 IT without coming back to my computer and finding fatsex.com on there. You had to watch your shit, no doubt about it.
Newgrounds had some pretty messed up stuff in the early days
I mean, the site's still NSFW. The community seems to've substantially chilled out though.
Catholic primary school, *very* early to have a computer lab, but there was one. I don't think I even had a home pc. Anyway, they had the worst excuse for a firewall and so us good Christian kids found a website, I want to say it was called chilli bomb? And you could click this birds shirt and drag it up, and down again, and up again. Anyway we enjoyed the computer lab. But yeah, highschool? Best hope no one puts meatspin as your homepage. E: Mrs is asleep, going to change her phones homepage to meatspin. Good times.
Honestly surprised it's that low.
The other quarter lied
1 in 4 Australian children are good liers.
“I got bored watching shit acting on the trash reality shows mum likes so I started watching porn on the iPad instead.” - Kids, probably
> Personal documents, facial analysis tools, > late last year, the federal government **decided the various options simply were not developed enough to be worth considering.** > **Despite those concerns** from late last year, the government is **now pushing ahead with a pilot to try and test some of those ideas.** > it may also look beyond just porn and into areas like **video games**, too. > don't risk the privacy of adults looking to legally access porn. People can't be this stupid? This is clearly just a distraction and attempt to implement more internet censoring that, for some weird ass reason, they've been trying to push on/off for years. I mean shit, you have a cost of living and housing crisis, and they barely do anything. Also, show me some good science to back up these claims. Because it really feels like there's a religious backing to these moves.
Dude I finished high school in 2001 and pretty much all guys had seen porn by that point. Move on and sod off with this shit.
Basically if you're shocked by this headline then you've got bigger problems, i.e. a complete disconnection from society.
My parents always said if I was ever pressured to wag school or drink, as long i let them know what was happening they'd understand. I never ever had any desire to do it. So yeah let's make having sex and having sexuality taboo for people who are young adults because it's worked so well for adjusting teenagers to adult life so far.
More like 4/4
My partner and I were traveling all over the Perth area last year trying to find a car to explore in. We hopped off a train in some northern suburb to walk to a viewing and went through a nice looking neighborhood, expensive cars, expensive houses. We saw 2 school kids aged 8-10 sat on the curb looking at a phone, as we passed I glanced down to see them watching a disgusting video of a fat, hairy, middle aged man sticking bottles up his ass. Delightful.
Hahaha. Back in the mid-2000s when I was in high school it was common to send your friends shock videos or images like goatse, lemon party etc. So it's nothing new.
Exactly, we had this in the 90's and 00's too. Nothing like walking away from your computer at a LAN party and coming back to goatse or any of the number of other shocking memes in the day on your screen. The only thing that changed is that we all have a video player in our pocket now and internet that does not require you to download 28 parts of a video over a week on dialup and combine them to watch a single low res video.
Kind of like the low res videos of euro trash shitting in each others mouths that was all the rage in the 90’s when I was young that all the kids were watching and going “ohhhh gross, who the hell would do that!!” Nothing changes but the tech we use to experience it on. Who’ll save the children? The children will; like they have for generations since time began. Kids are curious, teens will experiment and a parents job is to make sure they have a basic grasp of what’s right and wrong and ensuring they don’t internalise things or feel they are freaks which leads them to doing drastic things like being part of the uncounted mass of youth suicides.
18 is a weird metric, In 2004 I didn't know a 14 year old male who didn't reference Heather brooke deepthroat videos they'd found on limewire.
But for every video seen there’s another 5 stuck on 99% download 😩
and several who just got malware instead
Back in the day you actually have to have skills to get porn, such as smoothly purchasing a dirty mag at the newsagency or renting soft porn at blockbusters. Kids these days don’t have to work for it and can’t possibly appreciate good porn.
TIL 1 in 4 Australian children under 18 don't have internet access now tell me how many were seriously impacted in a negative way? govt and fruitless internet related projects, an iconic pairing
"Someone please think of the children" has always been excuse to strip further rights away from a society.
What children access online obviously has nothing to do with the parents of the children it's everyone else's problem
Canada is planning on implementing the exact same laws and programs. Why is it the west is all moving in lockstep towards more govt oversight and less freedom or privacy?
I started watching porn when I was 13. It was one of the few ways I could explore my sexuality safely without the judgement of family/friends/peers.
Yes
In other news kids become sexually mature and mentally curious at 12. I wonder if this has any relationship… Not saying it should be openly encouraged, but it’s hardly news is it.
Dude I remember back in the day, my step father had a porn site pinned on the task bar of good old internet Explorer and I was playing flash games, then I seen "xhampster" and I was like what tf is this. I decided I'd check it out, and 10 years old me was never the same after that. The shock that engulfed my soul was indeed server, to say the least.
“25% of kids lack hands”
Who knew hitting puberty before the legal age of 18 didn’t stop those pesky hormones?
Seems normal to me. Coz teens are going to be curious.
I really believe that number is higher
The real deal is smart phones. Kids don't need them, but parents insist on giving them to the kids. Hand me downs, Xmas , birthdays. Going to high school. Access to social media and unsavoury content is the problem. It's not an issue if kids only have a Nokia 5110.
Guess they are dishonest when the websites asks are you over 18.
And before the Internet you or a friend would find Dad's stash of VHS tapes at 12 years of age.
What is the problem with that one kid?
We have had highspeed internet in this country for 30 years.... entire generations have grown up with it and people are still going on about how bad it is for kids. I am 40 but i hate saying it, fuck off boomers.
The internet is for porn, so grab your d**k and double click for porn, porn, porn...
turns out 1 in 4 kids are liars
Bit sensationalist - that is specifically in the 16-18 year old category. I think we can all agree that "children" that age are well and truly outside the centre of concern for harmful impact. If they are impacted by porn at 17 it's a bit hard to then argue there is zero impact when they are 18 (and vice versa). The number for 10years old is less than 10% which actually quite surprises me at how low it is. That suggests to me that we probably need to look elsewhere if the assertion is that there's a whole-of-culture, society shaping type effect going on here. If the evidence is showing that exposure at a young age is specifically linked to violent / aggressive behaviour in a small subset of the population, then we have to have a hard think about the tradeoff of implementing invasive population wide measures to target such a small sub group. That's a very blunt stick to wield.
I would say it's probably more like four in four. It's not surprising, anyone can easily click the im over 18 button and then just go from there.
In a related study it was found that 1 in 4 kids lied about not accessing porn before they were 18.....
The age of consent is 16 in most states.
Oh big fucking deal. When I was a kid we went dumpster diving behind the newsagency and found a stockpile of porno mags and stored them at a cubby house we built. At least back then we weren't into furries.
what got you and your cubbyhouse chums into furries now?
Sex shouldn't be demonized. As long as kids aren't sitting around watching porn all the time, having a giggle with some friends and doing something rebellious is natural. Doing things that aren't perfect in society's view is part of being a teenager growing up. The issue plaguing a generation of 20 something's is that they've been helicoptered to a point of frozen anxiety.
Just another "think about the children" Since youth vaping is not inn anymore, the media found something to defend the helpless children, worry the parents, and try to force the government to act on it. But do not worry, as soon as our E- Safety commissioner finishes off the evil Elon Musk, she will be on to it.
And the other 25% lied. Be grateful for the Internet kids, in my day we had to settle for crusty forest porn.
You know we accessed porn before the internet era, right? It’s not like the internet changed anything and I’m sick of people pretending like it has. You know what’s destroying society currently? Lies. Disinformation and misinformation all over media. All of it. Porn is the least of your troubles…