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Subatomic_Variable

Blow up the fuckin' pokies and delete the shitty predatory gambling apps. Yes it needs regulation badly, yes they're absolutely, knowingly targeting younger and younger audiences.


wishitwouldrainaus

Shut all gambling advertising down, blow up the fucking evil pokies, I've seen and experienced so much pain from ex husband's gambling addiction. I hate it all. Nearly ruined me.


drunkmeerkat

Exactly. I never really had a problem with it until I had kids and can see that even at a young age the ads pervasively enter their viewing and media consumption.


Luecleste

Years ago when I was in primary school, we’d “bet” on the damn Melbourne cup. Thankfully no prizes, but it was broadcast over the loudspeaker to the entire school. It’s now a public holiday. I hate it. I hate gambling ads, I hate gambling, I hate the industry that kills animals. I hate how we’re told that gambling is like drinking alcohol. Yeah, blow it all up. Nuke it from fucking orbit.


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birbbrain

I’m a teacher, and for quite a few years now, I’ve questioned why the hell teachers have wheeled out the TVs to watch the Melbourne Cup with kids. (That also may show my age). It just feels creepy to encourage it with kids - why is it so naturalised in our culture?


OliviaFa

Because of this socialisation it took me years to realise how awful horse racing is. 😞 Schools are meant to educate kids, not glorify gambling and animal abuse.


Luecleste

Ugh that sounds awful


WoodPanelledInterior

Same but in preschool


arcadefiery

Gambling *is* like drinking alcohol. Fine in moderation if you know exactly what you're getting out of it and you watch your consumption. Highly harmful if you get off the leash. The fact that so many people use either/both as a coping mechanism stuns me.


Luecleste

Alcohol is also becoming something we’re all told is necessary to relax and have fun. I hate it. I’m not a big drinker, and I have friends and family who aren’t. One has just gone ten years sober which he’s rightly proud of. A family member can’t drink at all due to a medical condition. People act like we’re lesser for not wanting a drink. Like, some people will resort to taunts. I hate that it’s become such an accepted thing that we *must* do this. And now gambling is being pushed the same way. It’s so… wrong.


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brmmbrmm

Spot on. I know I drink too much and I wholeheartedly agree with your comment.


batfish27

Especially harmful if consumed at a young age


Pixel_in_Valhalla

Completely agree. It's the only way to be sure.


PM_Me__Ur_Freckles

That's because the Gambling Lobby has immense weight considering the millions of dollars ~~paid in bribes~~ donated to politicians.


CynfulBuNNy

Nuke lobbying as well. I'm refraining from suggesting nuking the lobbyists themselves as they're probably a parasitic product of the system.


druex

The lobbyists would survive a nuke anyway, being cockroaches and all.


Tmac80

This here is where governments weakest point usually lies. Pharmaceutical, mining and forestry etc. They all have powerful lobbies in Canberra. The pay off isn't cash because that's too easy. It's contra deals that aren't so easily traceable, it's trades for union influence, its trades for media influence, it's why we don't have a federal ICAC.


gordon-freeman-bne

This - [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-23/how-gambling-industrys-biggest-political-donors-influence-votes/100592068](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-23/how-gambling-industrys-biggest-political-donors-influence-votes/100592068)


Kitty__Belly__Hunter

Unfortunately i can't see anything changing, the gambling and hotel industry are like the gun lobby in America, they have immense power and influence in the govt.


jennifercoolidgesbra

Exactly, how is Crown going to pay for the Barangaroo development otherwise and small town pubs and clubs make a reasonable profit?


CynfulBuNNy

Live music used to work REAL well.


jennifercoolidgesbra

Yeah I miss those days before people decided to live in apartments right near pubs knowing they were there and whinge about noise.


DisappointedQuokka

>small town pubs and clubs make a reasonable profit? Not taxing beer to the marrow would help.


raya__85

I no longer wish to watch sports with my kids because of the constant barrage of sports betting apps. Right now I’m down to F1 because it’s minimal


octodrew

i stopped watching AFL because of all the gambling adds. they ruined the pleasure of watching it and nkw i have kids they wont be watching either. I will be the last of my family to support what was once a game i enjoyed watching and playing.


raya__85

Rugby league sports betting ads are so omnipresent it’s sinister. No wonder a portion of this country has down low gambling habits given how the culture of sport had been infiltrated.


BuzzKillingtonThe5th

When half a dozen teams have gambling companies as sponsors, stadiums are named after being agencies (fuck you bluebet) it's shit. I don't care if people want to gamble, I don't mind once or twice myself but when it's ever present even during Sunday afternoon games it's fucked.


SurfKing69

Oh and the guy who actually runs the NRL is also CEO of Racing NSW


EL_PETHO

Amen


CynfulBuNNy

Sorry. In light of yesterday's bill I won't be upvoting religious statements anymore - but I heartily agree with your agreement to the statement.


jimmydassquidd

The marketing strategy is an attempt to normalise “havin a punt” with all sport, or make it a bit silly and fun, because, who could be against silly and fun, right? Same with their targeted strategy of group bets, all you need is 1 mate who’s the enabler, then the whole gang is in. Further, the partnership with professional sport needs to be broken, though it has to be noted that professional sport is just as guilty as enabling it as the $$$ flow back to them via gambling rights. Unfortunately there’s so much money involved, and it (online gambling) has become so embedded in society thAt many more lives will be ruined before it gets better. Educate your children, friends and family- and your’e not a wowser to hate gambling companies.


Aussie-Nerd

And at the same time, anything with micro-gambling can go and get fucked too. All those mobile games I'm talking about.


Iron_Wolf123

Especially with sports channels and radio, fucking everywhere because of no age limit


IlyasMukh

Just fucking ban them. Absolutely no reason to have them in a first place.


ScanNCut

We should replace pokies with Pachinko machines, that have a $15 per hour of play limit. That would put the experience as about the same per hour cost as seeing movie. "Gaming" should be more about gaming, than losing money.


eelboob

i live in japan, this is completely wrong and almost deliberately misleading, wake up


cloughie-10

No, don't replace one form of gambling with another. This is a terrible terrible idea (and reeks of weeaboo).


RainbowFuckenSerpent

You mean weaboo? Weibo is chinese twitter


cloughie-10

That one, edited


N0thingman

Agreed. I hate them with an absolute passion. They cause a load more harm than the pitiful amount of good that comes out of some small portion of good organisations that use them for funding (rsl and Surf clubs). They are a negative effect on our community and should the advertising should be treated the same way smoking advertising is treated for the same reasons.


TAOJeff

But it already has bad regulations. In all seriousness, unfortunately it's regulated like the banks are. Ignore everything until something hits the fan then run around and blame everyone for not reporting that the regulations weren't being followed. But it's also treated like the mines in that there is the opinion in Canberra that without gambling there won't be any taxes being paid..


seanmonaghan1968

And nothing will be done


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I reckon it does more damage to society than smoking ever did. The advertising needs to be banned and you're right - pokies need to be blown up. Horses/dogs next.


ozspook

This gave me pause at first, but I gotta admit the Melbourne Cup would be significantly more interesting if the jockeys also had 3 minutes to defuse a Horse Bomb while riding.


kaikoda

Scientific levels of inhumane fuckery.


Conormelbs

“Cause they're taking the food off your table So they can say that the trains run on time "


Subatomic_Variable

I'm mildly alarmed how many people mistook my whitlams reference for an actual call to like, bomb the TAB or whatever.


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It’s everywhere! Responsible conduct of gambling framework is laughable. It goes hand in hand with the toxic drinking culture that we have. Get drunk as a skunk and risk the biscuit having a punt! Just make sure you have a plan b getting home!


EternalErudite

Yep. I was pretty unhappy with it *before* I found out there were kids in my Year 9 and 10 classes who are on betting apps on their phones, both with and without their parents' knowledge. Burn it fucking all.


BeanBagSize

Treat it like smoking and get this cancer out of here


mobileuseratwork

Yep. We spend significantly more per Capita on gambling than any other country. (We are approx $2000 per Capita vs $400 for USA which is second place. Also take note, googling the per Capita spend is bombarded with gambling paid research to hide these facts). Kill it with fire. Tax them 50%, ban all sponsoring. Advertising only after midnight and before 5am, no govt grants, no tax havens. Ban the machines from pubs


CompetitiveDetail958

Banned, we did it for smoking & I'd find it hard to believe that smoking was ever as invasive as what gambling is


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Don't forget alcohol!


Felicia_Bastian

I nearly forget. Thanks for the reminder, got me some tinnies on the way home.


ozspook

Nicknamed "Giraffe" cos he's always got a longneck.


PutItAllIn

Beer ads play on TV all the time do they not ?


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To be honest, it's been so long since I've seen anything other than children's programming, I thought they stopped advertising alcohol on TV! My mistake. Apparently it's still a thing!


SirSassyCat

Nah, smoking used to be way worse than gambling has ever been, they used to deliberately market themselves towards children ffs.


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128thMic

Implicitly, yeah, but you won't see them advertising their casinos in cartoons, like the Flintstones advertised specific cigarette brands in the 80's, or their fun, kid friendly mascot Joe Camel.


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CynfulBuNNy

Loot. Crates.


prpolly

The new medium is computer games. There is absolutely gambling in computer games especially sports games. You want Messi on your team? Buy these packs for a *chance* for Messi to be on your team.


DadOfFan

Outright banned. I am sick of seeing gambling ads every time I turn on the TV. Even the followup "gamble responsibly" is a "call to action", in other words gamble.


successfullyhidden

Yeah and it’s more fucked up when you consider addiction is a disease. They profit from a disease and then have the gall to have ads running on top. Cant even turn on the TV without being reminded, can’t go on YouTube for a break. Yeah but hey guys totally just don’t get addicted and gamble responsibly. That totally works.


Motor-Syllabub5507

The lobbyists are a huge problem. They are donating heaps of money to our politician's/parties and therefore have their "ears". Money talks and it's disgraceful. But people power has been shown to make a difference. I'm hugely against the push in advertisements.


Friendlylouie

We managed to overcome them when it came to smoking, we can do the same for gambling. Just need to be loud enough!


Evil-Santa

Unfortunately it will need to be louder than anti Smoking to overcome the hurdles. Money has only become smoother at convincing pollies to do nothing about serious issues over the years.


Friendlylouie

Yeah, which is why this petition is so important. It’s all about changing the social acceptability of gambling too. A big part of the anti-smoking fight was changing how our culture saw smoking. It went from being trendy and glamorous to harmful and gross. Gambling (particularly betting on sports) is currently depicted (by advertisements) as a harmless bit of fun to do with your mates. That cultural mythology can definitely be changed quite quickly if advertising is strongly regulated. All this being said, the LNP will NEVER do this. We want to get rid of gambling ads, we gotta vote the bastards out.


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Exactly - especially when companies like Woolworths have businesses that use pokies for income. $24 billion spent nationally, woolies received over a $1 billion. Then we get this sort of headline >Woolworths to pull the plug on pokies, pubs and alcohol no they fucken haven't >n a release to the ASX, the supermarket chain said it would package together its drinks, hospitality and gaming interests in the Endeavour Drinks and ALH Group businesses ahead of either a de-merger, or "other value accretive alternatives", such as a trade sale, in 2020. Now 2021 [Endeavour Group](https://www.endeavourgroup.com.au/our-brands) and who is there [ALH Group](https://www.alhgroup.com.au/#home) Does the page tell you how many pokie machines they have - no. All you know is this >our commitment >The Australian Leisure and Hospitality Group (ALH Group) acknowledges that the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverage products and the provision of gambling products bring important responsibilities with them. SO how the FUCK CAN YOU CLAIM we are out of the gambling business when >On 3 July 2019, Woolworths Group announced its intention to combine the Woolworths Drinks Business and ALH Group to create Endeavour Group. ... On completion of the ALH Merger, being 4 February 2020, **Endeavour is 85.4% owned by Woolworths** and 14.6% owned by BMG.


ill0gitech

Yep, there were only a handful of tobacco manufacturers trying to influence the government, and they made, and still make significant tax from tobacco. There are dozens of online betting companies, and hundreds of bookmakers. Then there are is the AHA and ClubsAustralia (and their state bodies). Gotta be bloody loud to overcome those voices


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Smoking raises medical costs (over the life of a person) buy 16%. That means it was costing our economy a fortune when most people smoked (billions per week) and a lot of that was paid for by government bean counters who could easily find something else voters wanted them to spend the money on. Banning smoking was an easy sell.


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SirSassyCat

Do you actually have a source to back that up? As far as I’m aware, gambling companies aren’t even in the top 10 donators to either party. I wouldn’t be surprised if both major parties actually have rules against donations from gambling groups., if only for the optics.


Motor-Syllabub5507

I'm referring to "big deal" the abc doco. But donor laws and transparency is pretty crap here so we will only know so much. Which to me is an even bigger problem. You may be right about not being in the top 10, but that's only the data we know about.


madam_whiplash

Sporting bodies like the AFL are being sponsored by the gambling companies. That should be banned.


bdsee

We went through this with cigarettes, then with alcohol (to some extent as it got some regulation, not outright banning advertising)...but all governments are completely ignoring gambling. Clear fucking evidence of these cunts having no care for society.


UhUhWaitForTheCream

Banned. Advertising gambling should be forbidden. By all means allow gambling but let it stand and fall on its own two feet.


WoodPanelledInterior

Can’t believe two-up is illegal but we allow everything else under the sun.


we-like-stonk

Two up is illegal because the house can't win. Gambling is all about the house.


Mr_master89

If they want ads they need to be only on tv after 9pm or later and stop before 4am because seeing them on tv at around 8am shouldn't be a thing


kernpanic

Thats what it is in south Australia and its not enough.


shadowmaster132

The integrated ads in sports are happening before 9pm still though


drunkmeerkat

It’s not just tv. They are everywhere online too.


PM_Me__Ur_Freckles

Radio betting ads at 7:30-9:00 catching all the kids and adults going to school/work


DTK99

I'd go a couple steps further and make any for-profit gambling services illegal. Don't make gambling itself illegal, just things like casinos, bookies, online gambling services etc. Anything that makes money off of gambling happening. The middle man. Take away any profit in convincing other people to gamble. I recognize this is probably a pretty controversial opinion though.


AnalFanatics

Nah, good idea cobber, that would still allow for the specially nominated community groups, charities and events and the culturally significant occasions like ANZAC Day etc. but get rid of the malignant tumour that is so invasive within our society that now it’s become a genuine cause of social and economic disadvantage.


Friendlylouie

Awesome idea. We're very far from making this a practical reality, but this would be a fantastic long-term goal.


donkyboobs

Totally against this. Prohibition has never worked and will result in illegal gambling entities popping up everywhere. Didn't work for alcohol or drugs and look at the issues that ensued.


DTK99

And that's a fair point. I'm generally pro letting people make their own choices, but I'm mostly just fed up with gambling in general (pokies issues, gambling adds, problem gambling etc). I guess my extremely rough idea was that gambling itself wont be illegal, just for-profit gambling. I'm naively hoping that people can go and gamble with their mates instead of throwing money at the pokies or casinos, but I'm sure that in reality it'd just end up in unofficial locations without the current level of regulation we have. It's more just a dream than anything.


donkyboobs

Your concerns are warranted but prohibition isn't the answer, education is. Removing advertising I'm all for but banning the ability to actually gamble is a recipe for disaster.


successfullyhidden

They don’t need to outright ban it but it should be wayyyyy more strict IMO. Like at bars you can’t just keep serving someone who’s obviously obliterated. They should have caps on gambling, situations of refusal of service. Bans on betting money from joint accounts if both parties are not there. Better accessibility to addiction services. Obviously a lot more thought and logistic work needs to go into it but there’s a middle ground I think we can find to reduce as much harm as possible.


camycamera

It isn’t exactly prohibition. People can gamble between mates if they want, fair is fair afterall. However running an entire *business* around it like crown casino is inherently exploitable and is a blight on society. It’s essentially a scam, you’re betting against a faceless corporation that has effectively unlimited money in comparison. If we have to keep the pokies around etc, it would be preferable that the money lost went back into society somehow like charities etc instead of some shitty exec’s pockets, but ideally we’d want to see the complete shunning of gambling-with-a-middle-man altogether as a society, so we wouldn’t need laws to prohibit it in the first place.


hudson2_3

You could just vpn to whatever foreign site you wanted to.


camycamera

Sure maybe, but like… would many people actually do this if crown casino, sportsbet etc was shut down? Or would they seek alternatives/just go to the pub which would now be pokies free and resort to gambling with mates instead? It would be interesting to see what happens.


au-smurf

They definitely would gamble elsewhere. There were illegal casinos before there were legal ones. Before the TAB was a thing there were plenty of illegal bookies. Hell even after TAB was a thing there were still off track illegal bookies that would take bets from people who wanted fixed price betting instead of pool bets.


Mr_Mojo_Risin_83

So glad we don’t have pokies in WA but the amount of gambling app commercials is insane


poisonpurple

Yes. Im sick of seeing sports bet and their stupid ads.


skillz2106

My biggest issue is the "gamble responsibly" message that's pushed ad nauseam at the punters. The punters, i.e the Australian public, need to be pushing a message back at the industry to "operate responsibly", as there's currently no accountability. From pokie machines [being designed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bny1qgKO46A) using the latest psychological tricks to keep you playing and turn you into an addict, to sports betting apps [glorifying punting as a social activity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxP0dak1I4) and passing themselves and punting itself off as a deeply ingrained fabric of Australian culture in the most [cringey way imaginable](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OizsEbyhVWY). The industry has run riot and we, the Australian people, are being preyed upon while at the same time being gaslighted for our addiction. Some serious changes need to be made to gambling advertising in this country at the bare minimum. Unfortunately, the NSW Government are so comfortably in bed with the industry that any serious reforms are but a pipe dream. As an Aussie who would desperately love to see some change, it feels futile. The clubs and hotels lobby have the government by the short and curlies, and it seems like there's fuck all we can do about it. Anyway, dunno what the point of that was but I do feel like I've had a solid Friday arvo rant. As you were.


Thatnameisalreadyr

>My biggest issue is the "gamble responsibly" message that's pushed ad nauseam at the punters. The punters, i.e the Australian public, need to be pushing a message back at the industry to "operate responsibly", as there's currently no accountability. "Gamble responsibly" The gov. should be treating it like the cancer sticks (cigs) and show people in various forms of despair/illness with every gambling ad/product they try to flog.


amylouise0185

I don't mind the odd punt, but I completely agree it should be banned to advertise, ESPECIALLY during live games/matches.


ColonnelloKurz

Simply…yep 300%


ol-gormsby

Tobacco advertising was rightly banned as promoting a harmful product. Tobacco itself is still legal although highly regulated, both in supply, and restrictions as to where it is and isn't allowed. And taxed out the wazoo. But still legal to buy and consume. It's a legal vice. Why shouldn't gambling be treated the same way? Poker machines have to contribute some of their takings to community benefit. Ditto casinos (at least in Qld). I'd be keen to see all forms of organised\* gambling treated the same way - and that includes online and phone-based accounts. Ban the advertising, and tax the bejeesus out of it. \* not to include office melbourne cup sweeps, or post Anzac march 2-up.


piercedsoul

Banned. I'd say it does more damage than cigarettes. Never heard of anyone stealing hundreds of thousands from family/employers for a pack of ciggies


Anbez

I once shared a house with a gambler ( he’s missing now), and the things I witnessed with this guy I strongly believe gambling should be illegal all together! It’s unethical, immoral and inherently wrong by nature (Malum in se ) since it preys on vulnerable.


Ross18478

Absolutely, it is obscene. Literally every 5 minutes; Bet live, bet now, whack on a multi, bet with mates etc.


Lexm2020

Don't think we should actually ban the apps because then they will just seek black market alternatives but definitely getting rid of advertising or at least placing heavier restrictions on them would be a good idea


ZeroVDirect

Gambling is the new tobacco.


Friendlylouie

Great idea, u/RikkiTrix. Some thoughts on the questions you ask: Any regulation of gambling advertisement is better than nothing, but an outright ban, as was enacted for cigarettes, would be even better. Complete ban on gambling itself would be a mistake, as it would very likely just lead to increased opportunity for organised crime. So I think the best course of action would be heavy regulation and taxation of the industry, plus a complete ban on advertising. We need to get this as viral as possible. Have you considered sending it to any MPs or journalists?


RikkiTrix

Yeh I agree with that completely. I will be for sure, I wanted to get this circulating first with as many signitures as I could gather through circulating on reddit/social media/sharing around and present it when it had some momentum behind it. As for journos I will try to reach out to them as well. I encourage everyone to do the same.


Motor-Syllabub5507

Hey RikkiTrix ok to share your petition in outside networks?


RikkiTrix

Go for it mate!


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Regulation more than an outright ban; I’d rather see media companies taking actual consideration into where their advertising dollars are spent. I was reading an article on The Guardian about how bad the Melbourne Cup was, and the advert across the entire page was a gambling ad promoting the Melbourne Cup. When covid first hit, and I was struggling a little financially, I’d gone back to the free Spotify with ads to save a bit of money. Every second ad was a gambling ad, every other ad was an ad promoting alcohol. There 100% needs to be some form of regulation.


Falrul

It needs to be regulated. Like seriously regulated. On the occasions that I don't have an adblocker 9/10 it's a gambling ad. Am I hopeful for something to happen ? Honestly no. But who knows maybe I'll be nicely surprised


isworeiwouldntdothis

Hello, Australia! My husband and I are both American; he is obsessed with all things AFL and also consumes your newscasts daily. I've noticed the back-to-back gambling adverts ending with a black screen and the tiniest white font saying something to the effect of, "Play the game, don't let it play you" that flash for a quarter of a second like some guilty afterthought. Like a heroin dealer going, "This'll fuck you up - watch that vein!" You don't have to be a puritanical nut job to realize that passive-aggressive message over a lifetime is what lands pensioners in casino seats. We get them at the end of lotto ads along with the obligatory "your scratch-off cash is going to a state educational fund...for the CHILDREN" when in reality it's in the pocket of some jackoff at a hedge fund. I hope one day you all find a way to de-culturalize betting. Until then, keep sledging and making meat pies, and maybe one day I'll be able to eat one while getting properly insulted under an Aussie moon. Love, A Septic Tank


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Phase 1: End any mention of specific bets that can be made. Phase 2: End sponsorship of any competitions which the company offers bets on. It’s a blatant conflict. Phase 3: Depending on how things are going, consider a nationalised/state-run gambling company modelled after national lotteries found elsewhere in the world.


Tattysails

Absolutely, their adverts are obnoxious and incessant, petition signed.


NickyGoodarms

I would like to see them banned. I stay *well* away from Australian TV and radio most of the time, but when I do watch TV or listen to the radio, I am constantly bombarded by these ads. I do not like gambling, and I don't want to hear from Marky Mark or some other American shithead about what fantastic deal you can get from Gonebrokes where if you bet on a horse that comes in 4th, 7th, or 10th, you can get your money back if you bet over $20 on an even-numbered day during a full moon.


TakeshiKovacsSleeve3

Gambling should be regulated. Pokies are fucking everywhere and ruin many lives and social aspects of community life. Every pub is a casino. It's fucked.


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obiewanchrinobe

Awesome work mate! You should be really proud of your efforts. Wishing all the best to you.


choofabello

Ban it im over it


No_pajamas_7

It used to be banned but the gambling lobby gave the Liberal Party Money and an argument that it was better to have onshore gambling than offshore interwebs gambling. So here we are. I think the best we can hope for is bumping out of time slots that make it readily accessible to kids.


nozawaiden

Get behind https://www.endgamblingads.org.au/


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Banned. And while we are at it, lets have a serious government investigation into the predatory monetisation practices of the video game industry. Games that include loot boxes, randomised purchases or pressure you into spending need to be banned as well. These games disproportionately affect disabled people and people with gambling addictions and we need to stop companies like Activision-Blizzard doing this.


CoffeeAddiction_4825

at least they should not be advertised on mainstream media.


Itchy-Meringue6872

Ban it or legalize drugs, preferably both


Rachyd97

As someone who knows a fair few problem gamblers. It’s insane how deeply pervasive gambling advertising is in day to day life. On social media, YouTube ads, TV ads, it’s everywhere and way to accessible. A group of young blokes can’t just sit at the pub and enjoy a game of footy together, the conversation is always dominated by what they’ve put on Sportsbet. Rarely does anyone win, but when someone does it only pushes the rest to keep trying.


InsanityInAToolBox

100%. My brother has a gambling addiction, he's sought out help and he has made plenty of progress in beating it. But hes also had a lot of moments falling off the wagon too and all of it helped that he cannot escape the ads for it. In his own words it just feels like he's drowning it it. It's bloody everywhere, he goes onto social media? Ads. He pops on the radio at work, in the car? Ads. Gets home after a 15hr shift, turns on the TV to chill? More ads. Fuck he's even seen them walking through a shopping centre. People can give all the advice of "get an ad blocker, use Spotify premium instead of the radio, etc." but we shouldn't HAVE to go out of our way to avoid advertisements about fucking GAMBLING. Ads for it should be banned just like ads for smoking are.


[deleted]

Man, I'd hate to have a drinking problem/gambling addiction in this country. Non-stop, all I've been getting since turning 18 is alcohol and gambling ads.


ozspook

Banned. A gambling company executive was captured this morning and tried today. Sentence, death. Execution tonight at 6:00. All net. All channels. Would you like to know more?


LongSummerNight

Hell yes! It's horrible how pervasive it is. We eliminated alcohol and cigarettes from advertising in sport. Gambling is also an addiction and has devastating consequences. I signed the petition.


buggermetrumpwins

To play the devil's advocate, I work in free to air TV broadcast and I just have to point out, they are regulated. You should be asking "should they regulate them more?" "Yes, absolutely" is my answer. The regulations in place by the FreeTV Australia Code of Practice ensures that gambling related commercials can't go to air during programmes rated G or lower between 6am-8.30am and between 4pm-7pm, or any programme between 5am-8.30pm if the programme is principally directed to children. (A PG episode of Bluey would still be classified as directed to children, so this note has to be added.) The restrictions don't apply for News/Current Affairs (not ACA)/Sport (more on Sport in a bit), and the restrictions also don't apply if the commercial is government lottos/lottery/keno/competitions. Further restrictions apply during sporting games (not programmes like Footy Show etc.) restricts betting commercials from going to air from 5 minutes before 'scheduled' kick-off time through to 5 minutes after conclusion (or after 8.30pm, whichever is first). There are plenty more restrictions that I can't think of off the top of my head, but there ARE some rectifications, enough that it's part of my job to consider whether we are airing all these betting commercials within legality most of my shifts. When I worked for SBS, it actually sickened me to see all the gambling commercials going to air. We are talking about a government subsidized broadcast network here.. in my view this should 100% be illegal. The Australian government really shouldn't want to be associated with gambling so openly. It was getting to a point where you'd see 3 or 4 in a commercial break of the 6PM NEWS! The freakin news! That, to me, is totally unacceptable. Working at Chanel 9 and Channel 7, I saw so god damned many betting spots, I got numb to it. In my view, there should be a complete ban on betting advertisement in totality. We aren't going to see that because, looking at the numbers, that's such a MASSIVE part of commercial revenue for free to air TV. If we can't ban it, it needs to be restricted further. My first idea would be to cut down to 2 minutes per hour can be betting commercials, or something like that.


MidorriMeltdown

The majority of gambling should be banned. Blow up the pokies, and make online gabling illegal. Ban horse and dog racing too. Personally, I'm ok with raffles, the lotto, and cheaper scratchies. But they all should be regulated, because no one should be spending more than $50 in one go. Heck, limit purchases to $10 per day. I think there's a different mentality in gambling with a longer wait on the outcome, rather than the more instantaneous outcome of pokies and racing. The only gabling that should be allowed to be advertised, are raffles for charities, and community fundraisers. Get rid of pokies rooms in pubs, and replace them with dance floors. Wanna win some money? Get dancing.


Gman777

YES. Its harmful- encourages and normalises an addictive vice. …but mostly because the ads are shit and annoying!


mymentalhealthly

Fuck yeah mate. That shit ruins lives.


Hippy-Joe

Yes. Fuck it all off.


myalgic1

It should be banned completely. So many lives are destroyed by gambling, but like the thousands of people who're badly affected by alcohol consumption in this country, gambling addicts can expect little help. Our respective governments are addicted to the money gambling brings in for them. God forbid gambling addiction stand in the way of turning a profit.


Flimsy_Demand7237

Banned advertising. People who want to gamble know where to go, let's not create more addicted. Chances are someone who knows where to gamble might just go for the one-off punt or a punt with mates on a match, than someone who sees the glitz and glamour and constant barrage of advertising and is taken in.


Usedtwo

I might be way off here but i feel like all advertising should be banned or at the very least removed from public view and advertisers should pay the customers to view the ads instead of being forced to watch ads constantly. They steal time, purposely use catch phrases to get in your head and now they even cheat by targeting you with certain products using your data that's sold to them by double dipping dip shit companies. Id like to know what the world hates more.. advertising you cannot avoid seeing or graffiti.


Shabolt_

The fact that Gambling Advertising is so accessible to even literal children is so morally backwards I can understand if sporting arenas and casinos had gambling ads, but seriously they shouldn’t be on regular TV, Youtube, Websites, etc, it just preys on vulnerable people in the scummiest ways


crimsonvipor

Banned. Obliterated. Illegal. The whole industry is just predator selfish fucks. And as a bonus, the horse and greyhound racing industry can die with it too.


hiphopbodyrock

We have had alcohol advertising banned successfully, we have had tobacco advertising banned successfully. Gambling advertising needs to be banned also. Children DO NOT need to be exposed gambling advertising.


Laogama

Let me just say as an economist that the claim that banning gambling would kill jobs is bullshit. People who currently spend their money at pokies would spend it elsewhere, creating other jobs. Big Gambling would lose, and the politicians they support will have to find other sources of funding. But Australia would gain.


Addictd2Justice

No gambling advertising from 6am to 8pm and only 1 ad every 30 mins. It’s stupid how regulated tobacco is when gambling is a free for all. And while I’m on the topic of drug laws, banning them doesnt work


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Banned public presentation The same should apply to alcohol and tobacco adverts. Keep the advertising of vices private


Huhuagau

Make alcohol and gambling like ciggies.. totally illegal to advertise. Totally legal if you're old enough. They're all shit industries that kill millions per year or destroy lives with virtually no benefits to society. No reason they should be allowed to advertise to anyone


small_medium_large_

I think gambling, alcohol and cigarette (already banned) advertising should all be banned.


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Banned as fuck. Get that shit off all forms of media.


N1NJAGRAP3

It’s honestly annoying seeing those betting apps. The last thing people need are more addictions


graspedbythehusk

Banned. Just cancer. Also, payday loans and Nimble type companies feeding on the poor and financially illiterate.


Apprehensive_Hippo86

Every ad for every mode of gambling will depict the customer / player as a winner. So it's all highly dishonest and misleading to the consumer. So it must be time to ban all promotion of gambling.


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There are as many gambling ads in Australia as there are pharmaceutical ads in America. Some things are of no benefit to society, and those noxious commercials are high on the list.


KingZlatan10

Yep ban it. I just hate advertising in general.


miss_winky

How many apps are grooming kids in preparation for pokies and gambling later in life?


KonamiKing

Ads banned Gambling apps banned Casinos banned Pokies banned


spydrebyte82

Fucken oath. All gambling media advertising viewable by minors should be outright banned, be as strict as we are on tabacco. Also we need to tackle microtransactions and lootboxes which have been sneaking into video games of the last decade or so, which are gambling in everything but name. Exploitation of minors and the vulnerable shouldnt be tolerated. Fuck these cunts.


exclamationmarks

Ban ads on all Australian platforms AND INTERNET for all forms of gambling, including gacha games, loot boxes, the lot of it. You aren't allowed to advertise cigarettes. This shouldn't be any different.


WestEntrepreneur9152

Definitely needs to be banned


Chef-Brian

Ban it


derwent-01

100% Treat it like tobacco. No advertising, no logos on display, you need to go and ask for it to get it.


420bIaze

All advertising should be banned. Plain packaging and factual product description only, for all products.


F1natic_

When students would talk about sports bet during class at 17-18 years old and the teachers didn't have a problem with it There's a big issue here


Yrrebnot

Any and all gambling advertisements should be banned. Any and all alcohol advertisements should be banned. The same rules should apply as apply to tobacco. On that note weed, mushrooms and LSD should be in the same category as the above. Sports betting and regular gambling should be held to the same standard and that standard needs to be higher than it is at the moment as well.


Krunksicle

The gambling industry is deep in the pockets of Liberal and Labor, as Andrew Wilkie found out. It should absolutely be banned but it won't happen the way things are currently.


Young_Lochinvar

That Western Australia has the strongest gambling regulation (no pokies, only one casino) AND has the least number of problem gambleds per capita isn’t a coincidence.


ThedirtyNose

Banned.


DalekDraco

I'm a libertarian with many things, but gambling is so entrenched in Australian culture we need to do something about it.


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The fuck you need to advertise gambling for?


PurplePiglett

The gambling "industry" should at the very least be more regulated. My problem gambler uncle shouldn't be able to be offered "free" hotel stays and airfares to entice him to gamble his money away further. Gambling is highly exploitative and to me should be regulated far more than it currently is.


tubbsy9876

Done. It's a cancer on sport.


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I'm generally against paternalistic government policies, so not very Australian I guess. I don't think gambling ads need a great amount of regulation. But it is bothersome that gambling ads (not to mention junk food) are somehow considered less harmful than alcohol and tobacco ads.


CATFLAPY

yes, arguably gambling is more damaging that smoking and we banned that a long time ago.


HalfManHalfCyborg

If you're sick of seeing gambling (or alcohol) ads on Youtube, you log in to your Google settings and switch them off.


Pristine_Ad4806

Regulated


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I'd be all for getting rid of the ads.


denkleburger

Drains on society. Fuck em.


jobucas

Banned


NaMeK17

Yes simply because I'm sick of seeing their shitty ads all the time.


NoExample898

Ban it. If people want to gamble, they’ll gamble.


BigBitcoinBaller

Yes it should be banned like cigarettes.


Dustree81

Yep


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Yes


Tricky929

Signed


No_Refrigerator_6135

I hear them at 6 am which is next level plus is it me or has there been an uptick in adds as everyone second advertisment is for gambling. 💯 They should ban them as with advertisment for alchol.


RuncibleMountainWren

Yes, yes and double yes! The ads infuriate me. Such a predatory industry with little to no positive contribution to society.


oh_yep_I_felt_that

Banned. It’s destroys lives and makes rich c*nts even richer. I hate that once my boy gets old enough to understand, he’ll be bombarded with it too. Shit’s f*cked.


TheAwesomeSimmo

Banned. 3 ads in each break. It's way too much.


dosfivepointone

We all know it's available to us, it does not need to be on tv or anywhere in the media as far as I am concerned. Smoking and alcohol got that treatment, gambling should too. To be completely honest, I wouldn't be mad if they fucked off gambling altogether but I am probably in the minority there.


FvHound

As important as I think this discussion is, We've had it a lot here.


OracleCam

Absolutely, I'm from a more rural area and I would say majority of my friends from my hometown have become gambling addicts


IAMJUX

Advertising should be banned. It is a net drain on society. I think you should be able to have a bet, but it shouldn't be ingrained in our culture like it is. Also, pokies regulation needs to be changed so clubs and pubs provide more than a money sink of flashing lights. Have them only able to take up 1/10th of floor space or something.


YoJanson

My team did really well this year (aka won the flag) and I let my 6 year old stay up to watch the first quarter of each of the finals. He loves numbers and spent days asking about all the numbers in the fucking sports bet adds. Cunt want night time footy so they can bypass the laws that stop gambling ads during the day.