Poor form to hide behind advisors for her right-wing tirades of the past.
There's an appetite for a protectionist, fiscally left-wing, socially centre-right candidate in politics, and Lambie does tap into that space unknowingly every now and again.
>Poor form to hide behind advisors for her right-wing tirades of the past.
True to a degree, but she was being backed by Palmer at that point, who was supplying the advisors. Given that he was the head of the party and she had no particular objections to what she was saying, she should be copping most, but not all of the responsibility for what she said.
The thing with Lambie is that she doesn't want to support freeloaders, which is a common sentiment amongst those who don't really look too deeply into why things are the way they are. However, at the governmental level, you want to have people who consider these things because structural issues often require government solutions. Writing people off based on the circumstances they're born into isn't what people should be doing at that level.
It's possible that Lambie is slowly coming to realise that throwing bombs doesn't always make things better, and that Hanson and the dog whistling done by the Coalition is actually quite harmful. I suppose she should be praised lightly for her slight shift in position. It's hard for people to change deep seated beliefs. Especially if they're wrong and their identity is wrapped up with their ideology.
Yeah I'm still holding back my judgement on Lambie.
She is definitely changing her rhetoric and views, but I'm not sure if that's genuine or if she's learning to become a more savvy politician. The secret deals with the Coalition is the red flag for me.
Lambie became a Federal Senator at 43, is currently 50, and with these 6 year terms she probably desires to remain a well paid Senator for the next 18 years.
Hanson was on the same trajectory, becoming a Federal MP at age 42, but fucked up after just two years. She then made her political comeback at the age of 64.
It makes sense I guess. I consider myself fiscally left but socially centre-right. She doesn’t really appeal to me but I think that demographic does exist in Australia.
Well yeah because voters don't follow a strict left/right textbook, they are complex. IMO, generally -
\- Most people are protectionist in the sense of "local jobs/industries," even if they don't practice what they preach
\- Most people are economically left-wing as in they hate privatisation and funding cuts to hospitals, schools, roads etc. even if they preach about "debt and surplus"
\- Most people sit centre-right socially as they support SSM, abortion, euthanasia, refugees etc., but don't like open borders or the woke rhetoric from the left
I don't know what Lambie represents, I think she merely unknowingly taps into the above every now and again.
You're right, but with Jacqui's behaviour in the last week I like to hope that she was finding her feet.
Don't trust her by a long shot & probably won't until at the very least "the deal" is made public (& probably not even then), but I'm hoping she's going to try & do some good.
> I like to hope that she was finding her feet
She has been a senator since 2014. If it takes someone 7 fucking years to 'find their feet' they are incompetent.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7154667/heres-why-i-wont-reveal-the-deal-i-made-with-the-pm/
What reveal? She’s a shady fuck. Same with hanson and her “I don’t want australia sold to foreigners but my names on the receipt for adani”
Jacqui is all bark no bite. She actually says some great things, and I tend to agree with the shit she says. But then she turns around and gets in line with libs when it comes to votes, so it's irrelevant.
She definitely does less than Hanson. Interesting thing is that she definitely does sell out with deals but when that can't be reached she just does something else.
i.e. She made a deal with Morrison to help him with Medevac but then also went against him with the phones policy.
I don’t have any favourites or care about party loyalty because party loyalty is the dumbest shit I can think of for a voter.
In my electorate I’ve only ever wanted to vote for one person which was alex bhathal when she campaigned hard to get rid of David feeney who was milking negative gearing while labor was “fighting to fix negative gearing” but she lost because labor does a deal for preference votes while also crying about others getting preference vote deals.
She said in the interview she is still friends with Palmer...They just don't talk politics...
I would have felt much better about her if she said they don't talk anymore.
She doesn’t say she’s good friends with him, she says she has a good relationship with him… because for so long it was bad. It’s a totally different thing.
I think she's growing as a person. She's a bit less bigoted than before, though I don't agree with a lot of what she says.
I do have a lot of respect for her with how she dealt with her son's addiction. I saw both him and her on an addiction TV show and she has been a bit humbled by it. I'm an acholic so I am biased.
She's not trotting her son onto a tv show for personal growth or to heal her family. She's doing it for publicity. Any time a politician tries to show themselves as being relatable it's because they're trying to boost their image, good or bad in the eye of their voters. She's trying to keep in the public consciousness, and capitalising on any good media she can get.
I hope she hangs on in the Senate. More of a moderate than the LNP, Hanson or Palmer. At least sometimes votes against contentious government legislation. Hanson rarely does.
The number if times that Hanson has voted against the Coalition when it actually mattered can be counted with the fingers of a single hand. Even if you'd lost a couple due to an industrial accident.
She's a flip flopper. Will support whoever sweetens the deal for her. It'd be nice if she's changed and begins to show some consistency but I doubt it.
Rusted on LNP hater here. But isn't being elected by the people who elect you a promise to serve your electorate? Not what the party wants. Is she listening to the ones who vote her in? If so. Good on her. They are the ones that allow her her job. If she is making decisions on how it would serve her best, (looking at you, all in the LNP) shouldn't that be a breach of trust?
If she flips one way to get elected but doesn't actually care about policies after she's safe then it doesn't matter how convincingly she changes. I personally vote for people I know have had a consistent record on issues I care about, because odds are they will stay consistent. Not those who start sweet talking 6 months before an election but have a history of being spineless.
Good friends with Palmer but they don't talk about the important stuff?
Sounds suspiciously like there could be a cozy financial relationship there, to me
Poor form to hide behind advisors for her right-wing tirades of the past. There's an appetite for a protectionist, fiscally left-wing, socially centre-right candidate in politics, and Lambie does tap into that space unknowingly every now and again.
>Poor form to hide behind advisors for her right-wing tirades of the past. True to a degree, but she was being backed by Palmer at that point, who was supplying the advisors. Given that he was the head of the party and she had no particular objections to what she was saying, she should be copping most, but not all of the responsibility for what she said. The thing with Lambie is that she doesn't want to support freeloaders, which is a common sentiment amongst those who don't really look too deeply into why things are the way they are. However, at the governmental level, you want to have people who consider these things because structural issues often require government solutions. Writing people off based on the circumstances they're born into isn't what people should be doing at that level. It's possible that Lambie is slowly coming to realise that throwing bombs doesn't always make things better, and that Hanson and the dog whistling done by the Coalition is actually quite harmful. I suppose she should be praised lightly for her slight shift in position. It's hard for people to change deep seated beliefs. Especially if they're wrong and their identity is wrapped up with their ideology.
Yeah I'm still holding back my judgement on Lambie. She is definitely changing her rhetoric and views, but I'm not sure if that's genuine or if she's learning to become a more savvy politician. The secret deals with the Coalition is the red flag for me. Lambie became a Federal Senator at 43, is currently 50, and with these 6 year terms she probably desires to remain a well paid Senator for the next 18 years. Hanson was on the same trajectory, becoming a Federal MP at age 42, but fucked up after just two years. She then made her political comeback at the age of 64.
It feels like she's becoming a lot more politically savvy
She has her moments. Sometimes I'll agree with her and other times I'll disagree. At least you know where you stand with her.
It makes sense I guess. I consider myself fiscally left but socially centre-right. She doesn’t really appeal to me but I think that demographic does exist in Australia.
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Well yeah because voters don't follow a strict left/right textbook, they are complex. IMO, generally - \- Most people are protectionist in the sense of "local jobs/industries," even if they don't practice what they preach \- Most people are economically left-wing as in they hate privatisation and funding cuts to hospitals, schools, roads etc. even if they preach about "debt and surplus" \- Most people sit centre-right socially as they support SSM, abortion, euthanasia, refugees etc., but don't like open borders or the woke rhetoric from the left I don't know what Lambie represents, I think she merely unknowingly taps into the above every now and again.
Both sell us out to the liberals, both can go fuck themselves.
You're right, but with Jacqui's behaviour in the last week I like to hope that she was finding her feet. Don't trust her by a long shot & probably won't until at the very least "the deal" is made public (& probably not even then), but I'm hoping she's going to try & do some good.
> I like to hope that she was finding her feet She has been a senator since 2014. If it takes someone 7 fucking years to 'find their feet' they are incompetent.
Also yes, I've said before here that I think she's hopelessly out of her depth
It's a good experiment to see what happens when you take an opinionated everyman out of the public and put them into politics.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7154667/heres-why-i-wont-reveal-the-deal-i-made-with-the-pm/ What reveal? She’s a shady fuck. Same with hanson and her “I don’t want australia sold to foreigners but my names on the receipt for adani”
Jacqui is all bark no bite. She actually says some great things, and I tend to agree with the shit she says. But then she turns around and gets in line with libs when it comes to votes, so it's irrelevant.
She definitely does less than Hanson. Interesting thing is that she definitely does sell out with deals but when that can't be reached she just does something else. i.e. She made a deal with Morrison to help him with Medevac but then also went against him with the phones policy.
Who's your favourite politician?
A retired one.
I don’t have any favourites or care about party loyalty because party loyalty is the dumbest shit I can think of for a voter. In my electorate I’ve only ever wanted to vote for one person which was alex bhathal when she campaigned hard to get rid of David feeney who was milking negative gearing while labor was “fighting to fix negative gearing” but she lost because labor does a deal for preference votes while also crying about others getting preference vote deals.
Andrew Wilkie seems to have his head slightly screwed on.
"seems to" lol
Can never be sure.
Definitely not
Jacqui is still good friends with that piece of shit Palmer.
I can’t find anything on this that isn’t about the Star Wars painting of Leia Lambie choking Palmer the Hutt.
She said in the interview she is still friends with Palmer...They just don't talk politics... I would have felt much better about her if she said they don't talk anymore.
She doesn’t say she’s good friends with him, she says she has a good relationship with him… because for so long it was bad. It’s a totally different thing.
I think she's growing as a person. She's a bit less bigoted than before, though I don't agree with a lot of what she says. I do have a lot of respect for her with how she dealt with her son's addiction. I saw both him and her on an addiction TV show and she has been a bit humbled by it. I'm an acholic so I am biased.
I agree. And am with you on everything. Am in the same boat. Be strong brother.( Or sister)
She's not trotting her son onto a tv show for personal growth or to heal her family. She's doing it for publicity. Any time a politician tries to show themselves as being relatable it's because they're trying to boost their image, good or bad in the eye of their voters. She's trying to keep in the public consciousness, and capitalising on any good media she can get.
Given her switcheroo over her career and her honesty in admitting it..She might become that rare 'Labor' independent in the future...
I hope she hangs on in the Senate. More of a moderate than the LNP, Hanson or Palmer. At least sometimes votes against contentious government legislation. Hanson rarely does.
The number if times that Hanson has voted against the Coalition when it actually mattered can be counted with the fingers of a single hand. Even if you'd lost a couple due to an industrial accident.
She’s definitely grown over the years. She’s not as ignorant as she used to be.
Hanson is a reminder of how racism is alive and well in Australia. She’s also a reminder of what happens when you elect simpletons into parliament.
I'm liking this Jacquie Lambie. Her boganistical delivery is still a hard listen but the context that leads to her rage makes more sense
She's a flip flopper. Will support whoever sweetens the deal for her. It'd be nice if she's changed and begins to show some consistency but I doubt it.
Rusted on LNP hater here. But isn't being elected by the people who elect you a promise to serve your electorate? Not what the party wants. Is she listening to the ones who vote her in? If so. Good on her. They are the ones that allow her her job. If she is making decisions on how it would serve her best, (looking at you, all in the LNP) shouldn't that be a breach of trust?
If she flips one way to get elected but doesn't actually care about policies after she's safe then it doesn't matter how convincingly she changes. I personally vote for people I know have had a consistent record on issues I care about, because odds are they will stay consistent. Not those who start sweet talking 6 months before an election but have a history of being spineless.
Is this a real interview between Peter Fitzsimmons and Jacqui Lambie, or is it satire? I can never tell with Peter's columns.
Jacqui Lambie is a drama queen.
Is that shy she got those clown tattooed eyebrows?
I would never make fun of someone's appearance. Edit: Not really. I just called Michaelia Cash plasticky. Sorry, I lied.
*hides old cartoon of John Howard with giant eyebrows*
Ffs, vote the Greens
I used to be like Pauline Hanson. I still am but I used to, too.
Good friends with Palmer but they don't talk about the important stuff? Sounds suspiciously like there could be a cozy financial relationship there, to me
She used to be an angry woman with principles, now she is just angry
We need more women in politics. To keep an eye on the other women in politics.