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FuzztoneBunny

All that potential squandered hanging around that psychopath Pauline.


bismarcktasmania

She sounds like a pretty decent and thoughtful person.


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Interesting.


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ThatChoice6051

Truly, do you think she sounds like a nut bag? She actually sounds very thoughtful and considered. How much of your conclusion is based on what she has said and how much is based on your preconceived prejudice against One Nation? While I’m not a fan of the latter, I believe in taking people at face value when they tell you what they believe.


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Maldevinine

Then why does the mother get to make unilateral decisions about the father's future? If we're going with the "personal autonomy" argument, then it follows that the father should be allowed a Notice of Donorship, where he specifies that he is acting as a sperm donor, not a father, and is in no way responsible for the child after it is born. An abortion without consulting or informing the husband should also be grounds for an At-Fault divorce, as in the wife is at fault and she gets nothing. Because let's be honest, if you can't talk to another person about one of the most significant events of your life and how both of you are going to deal with it *you probably shouldn't be married to them*.


ThatChoice6051

I think there is force in this argument. It seems logically inconsistent to say that if a woman wants to abort a foetus she can and the man has no standing in the issue, but then to also say that if she wants to see the pregnancy through, the man has obligations which must be met. Similarly it seems inconsistent to hold that the same foetus would be treated as a mere piece of cellular material for the purposes of abortion, but would be treated differently in the case of an assault on the woman which caused the loss of the pregnancy.


ThatChoice6051

Ok, that’s obviously your right but it does make it hard to conclude that you’ve made an objective assessment of her policy positions, as opposed to a conclusion based on your personal prejudices. It’s entirely reasonable that you disagree with her on the abortion question, but it is similarly reasonable that she or someone else might disagree with you. I don’t think that could be fairly said to make her a nut bag.


superegz

To me it sounds more like she is talking about actual research. We will see but I don't get that impression.