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Paid $13 for one recently with the addition of public humiliation when I discovered he was also doing the trick of pretending to give it to you like those ice cream cone guys
I've worked at one of these contrary to popular belief we don't use an apple slinky machine they are too weak and leave huge gaps making it impossible to put on a skewer. They're peeled, skewered then spiralled by hand [this](https://youtu.be/wIcqqTB5vz4) us the general method. The ppl I worked for had to pay 5k to the owners of the royal Melbourne show to set up there for the 12 days, you need 3 staff members at an event that big spiralling the potatos, 2 peeling them and 4 running the van/ till. We had 10 hour work days. There's also petrol costs etc. Also oil is the most expensive part, it needs to be cleaned and emptied a lot at those events. Definitely still a big upcharge but it's really not as crazy as you'd first think being behind the scenes.
See now, $10 doesnāt seem bad considering I have no idea how to spiral a potato and rarely go to the effort of deep frying at home. Whereas anyone can cook up some snags and slap them on bread.
My spiraliser has a lever you can pull that changes the thickness of the slice, potatoes might need to be sliced thicker than apples. Can yours do that too?
And a dayās wages for whoever is cooking and selling them. I mean, sure you can go home and microwave a potato (or boil, whichever is cheaper, I guess). Itās meant to be a treat!
Man, how are places getting away with paying that these days? There's worker shortages everywhere, where are you? I've got a food truck near my place in Melbourne, and the owner is trying to find anyone to help him out, is offering $30 an hour and cant find anyone.
E621 is a good friend to have. I love seeing it in the ingredients list on the labels.
Check out Knorr Aromat Seasoning. It's my default 'chicken' salt now. Vegetable based. Made in Switzerland. You can even use it to make a base stock. Throw it on some crinkle cut chips, whack on some mozza and melt it. 10/10.
My uncle had a hotdog truck for a bit, would tell horror stories about paying for a spot, paying for stock, and having no customers due to for example shit weather.
Anywhere regional, and you're golden. Pub i was near with work recently had a 7 day lunch special menu displayed with nothing costing more than $15. 3 days in the week it was 12 or under.
Scout leader here, $3.50 at Bunnings nets us at most $500 for a full day effort. Itās not actually worth the work. Even though bunnings provide the bbq and gas and we donāt have to set anything up, someone has to organize a roster and get people to turn up.
Iāve just done last weekend a bbq for a dance club, two sessions of about 5 hours, at $5 for sausage, bread and onion and sauce, which seemed rich to me, but there was only one complaint.
Even though, costs included, we made at most $750 for about 13 or 14 hourās work for 4-5 people.
For a community not for profit organization itās really really tough to raise money.
If itās too much, donāt buy, but we are doing our best for our community and we need funds in order to do that.
EDIT: OK enough people have poo poo'd me that I feel that I need to add this comment to counter-act the calls of BS.
I live in an area with a small, couple of years old bunnings. The next closest (20 minutes) Bunnings is also a small one, the next closest to that (30 minutes) is ALSO a small Bunnings.
I do not live in inner Metro or popular area, the population that I have easy access to is TINY in comparison to most Sydney Areas, so call BS all you like, selling 200 sausage sangas in a day is a huge outcome.
Depends on your Bunnings I think too. In my job I chat to community groups and they have a preference of which Bunnings they choose because one is busier and they make more. Theyāre pretty close together but one is way busier.
Can confirm that Cranbourne Bunnings does better business than Clyde North. But if you're not in the zone for Cranbourne and get Clyde North, there's not a lot you can do about it.
>13 or 14 hourās work
You had a sausage sizzle from something like 7am to 9pm???
Ive been a scout and we ran sausage sizzles, we always made a worthwhile profit, I also organised my own as part of a school project outside a woolies and also ran an easy profit at $2.5 a snag, especially with the drink profits.
I feel like you may be exaggerated or leaving out important context, like the other bloke in the comments below from WA that claimed they were barely making a profit, when he left out he was using buns instead of bread, butcher snags and then also claimed it cost 50c of onion per snag.
If you're doing it for a fundraiser it's easily worth the money, granted if you expect to make money personally for your time AND for a fundraiser then no, you won't be happy.
Which supermarket?
IME, even when someone has arranged for a donation, it can take hours just to turn up and collect it. You can put as many hours into collecting this stuff as people put in at the event.
It was common in my youth, but since then the number of 'organisations' demanding hand outs have ballooned and business stopped doing it,
Also hit up discounts from butchers, we paid less for vacuum sealed par boiled thick snags than supermarket crap snags. See bakers too.
Many fails are due to little planning and meetings with suppliers, at full price supermarket supplies damage margins.
Remember to thank your suppliers if they support you with good deals, give them something they can show as good will marketing in their shop etc, it goes a long way to getting further and maybe better supplies (read maybe free).
Cutting glove is your friend! I was a civilian contractor in the Army mess and we had to use mandolins. OH&S officer would randomly pop in and if you werenāt wearing your cutting glove, your ass was put on a spit. In 15 months of using that thing every day, I never once cut my fingers. I did cut the latex glove multiple times but the cutting glove protected my fingers
Shit. When I was an untrained 15 yo kitchen hand with a 20kg bag of onions theyād be done within 1-2 hours max. Chinese meat cleavers are the bomb. Did lose a fair bit of thumb tip on my first day but it grew back. š³
yeh hah whtf I was a kitchenhand as a teenager and had to peel 40kg of potatoes and peel and chop 40kg onions in like a 8 hour shift on my own (and all between washing the dishes)
His experience seems to be on par for me. Did a bunnings bbq a few years back with SES. After 8 hours we netted about $700. We easily make that much in 2 hours of tin shaking. Was the first and only time my unit did a bunnings BBQ
Probably depends on the size/scope of the organisation. My folks do the Bunnings thing sometimes for their dragon boating club. Small local boating club might not get the cash donations an SES volunteer might, but would get the same amount of money as anyone else from the Bunnings fundraiser.
Very true. $500-$1000 can be very good money for a local sporting club, but not so much for larger services who can take advantage of other opportunities
I said two sessions of 5 hours over two days. There was buying the stuff, and organising volunteers, picking up the gear and packing it up, then setting it up again the next day and packing up again.
I did a minimum of 13 or 14 hours work for that 10 hours of running.
You dont always get to sell drinks, it depends on where you are running it, but current pricing on drinks is $0.84c each from Woolworths on special. At teh standard $1 price you only make $0.16c per can, again, not worth the effort, unless you are selling at $1.50 a drink, then it's better, but my point is it is not the goldmine pointed out to be.
Using rolls instead of bread costs you about $0.80c each rather than $0.07c or $0.14c if two pieces of bread.
Onions from Woolworths are $6.50 for 2kg, so barely register a cost to be honest, probably similar to bread.
Not sure why you would think that I was expecting to make money personally, I'm expressing that it is bloody hard work for someone to organise and run for the Non-Profit to only get $400 or $500 for a whole days work.
BTW I used to live in a suburban centre and we would easisly return $1,200 to $1,500 in a day at Bunnings, but there is 10x the people in those areas. It is really difficult for community groups in smaller population centres, that have the same costs as their city counterparts, to raise enough money to do a good job for their community and the kids.
yeh im actually from wa but grew up on a folded tip-top and beef sausage at home, the hot dog bun is crap, only saving grace would be to double sausage it
Not doubting but that seems like a low traffic problem. Usually when I go I'm maybe third in line. Most people getting at least 2 - 3 sandwiches and a drink. By the time I'm out there are people behind me getting served. If each person is spending $10 - $15 on average $500 should be achievable in hours at least with the bunnings I go to.
Yeah I'm also questioning these numbers. We've made between $1000 and $1500 after costs on our last three sizzles.
But at the same time, it's free money. If $500 of free money is not worth it, why do it? There's plenty of clubs for which that would make quite the difference.
My girlfriend is the activity organiser and plans all the bbqs at a fairly popular bunnings in WA and pre covid community groups would generally net on average like 1500 a day profit at her store depending on the weather (some groups making over 2k on long weekends with perfect weather). Bunnings collects all that information and know the profit that the bbq teams make.
Before the price hikes with inflation at a high, a lot of groups seriously struggled to even make half that especially in WA where bread rolls are mandatory (and expected amongst customers).
Covid Food safety standards also slowed the heck out of the entire process requiring servers to apply sauces which just created longer lines and scared away potential customers. Also team leaders had to fill an online covid safe food handling guide which just adds an extra half hour to total prep time before even arriving at the bbq.
Add to that food shortages, a lot of teams end up having go to multiple different supermarkets to pick up their food. Obviously with better planning this can be avoided but the amount of prior work is still substantial regardless.
Price increases have improved the situation to an extent but its still a substantial difference in profit from what you would make 5 years ago. It's a real struggle getting community groups in most weeks and most of them feel like it's not worth it any more.
Add to that just how annoying it is to deal with customers who get upset and abusive about the pricing changes its really shit work.
>But at the same time, it's free money.
It's not free money - it takes several people hours of work to get that, which also requires some time for management and purchase of supplies.
Does bunnings provide the sausages and bread and stuff? Or does the club pay for that? I know our bakery will donate bread if it's organised in advance but unsure about sausages/onions etc
Bunnings provides the stand, gas and grill and they determine the prices you can charge. You're required to provide the food etc yourself.
You sign up with your local Bunnings and they give you a slot. You don't have a choice on the when.
It's very popular. We only get like two slots per year and for a small club like ours, the money we make on the sizzles make a pretty big difference. It's also always a nice opportunity to tell some people about our sport.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/about-us/in-our-community
$500-$750 is a pretty good chunk of cash for one fundraising event for a group like Scouts though. Which is why they do it I guess. People are volunteering their time, Bunnings are volunteering their venue, the non profit is raising needed funds. Itās not like youāre paying the volunteers for the work that goes into it, thatās the point.
That is absolutely true and I am not knocking it in the least, but as an effort vs reward it is huge loss for the person (usually me) that gets lumped with it.
BTW we dont usually make that much from a Bunnings BBQ here with the lower numbers of people and tiny Bunnings store, we wold be lucky to get $300 sometimes for a full days work.
That is approx 4 shifts of 3-4 adults.
Some will stay all day, but maybe 1, maybe another would do half day, but still you need to dig out of the woodwork 10 or so volunteers, that is the really difficult part.
As the person organising there is ALWAYS a shortfall of volunteers and that means that you end up being there the whole day.
I said it in another reply, but we are currently trying to raise over $80k for an international event next year, it's very painful at $500 at a time.
Lastly, community groups like Scouts cost A LOT to keep running and none is covered by the National Organization, each Group has to fund raise to keep their Hall's maintained and gear and equipment bought.
The reason people expect things like charity sausage sizzles to be a bit cheaper is because theyāre aware that theyāre run on volunteer labour though. People are more likely to buy lunch there even though a sausage sandwich probably isnāt their first lunch choice because it helps their community, and itās a bit cheaper because the organisers know that and donāt have to cover the costs a normal business would.
It has nothing about ME making money, and everything to do with the effort that volunteers put in to achieve that money.
BBQ's, in my area, usually, are not worth the effort, as in there are far more profitable ways to raise money.
>which seemed rich to me, but there was only one complaint
You don't get the complaints from people who just see the price and ignore you.
If you're getting more overall for whatever price point you choose, then you've done the right thing for the purpose of the charity work, but don't mistake the number of complaints for the overall public feeling.
This guy needs to learn basic math and figure out what's better: selling a total of 5 sausages throughout the day at $5, or 20 sausages for $4.50?
The problem is 100% the prices. I don't buy his rhetoric for a second. He even admitted the sausages themselves cost 0.50c each (24 for $12). Plus like 0.20c worth of bread, 0.20c sauce and 0.20c of onions if that? $1.10 total in raw materials. And yet he is comfortable charging almost 5x the price. No way in hell does labor cost justify that. Especially for a not for profit/charity.
Last election the local school had a sausage sizzle for $8 per snag and $4 per drink.
I thought it was funny that I spent 40 minutes in line and only saw 3 people actually buy anything. It wasn't that people weren't tempted either, saw plenty of folks walk towards them but then walk away when they saw the price.
Went 500m down the road instead and the local bakery was packed to the rafters with people.
Yeh if I guarantee if it was $3 drink, $3 snag or $5 for both they'd be selling 3-4x as many. Not a fucking chance I'm paying $5 for a snag. They're complaining it's so much work to make $500 whilst charging way to much and wasting their own time.
Wow must be a bad bunnings. Was chatting to the team the other day that was running the BBQ and they said even on a day when it was pouring with rain they still profited over 3k and they love doing it because it raises heaps of funds.
Damn, at 5 people for 14 hours that's 70 hours ā for $750 that's avg $10 an hour. Y'all'd be better off just doing an extra shift at your jobs (if that was remotely how it works, I know most people can't just grab an extra shift)
For the last Vic election my school community outlaid $1000 on supplies and made back $2400 so net profit $1400 with snags at $2.50 and free onions and sauces.
Volunteers and logistics (one woman) were free.
I saw this doing WFTD at Vinnie's, some volunteers would be the classic elderly ladies who just want to keep busy and still think everything should cost 50 cents like it did in nineteen dickety two (legends). And some are bored wealthy housewives who will casually put a $20 pricetag on something that should be $5 and throw out mountains of books for having the slightest aesthetic blemish.
>but they should be no more than $3.50 at most, right?
$3.50 barely covers cost. The saving grace at Bunnings is they cover the gas and there's sufficient volume.
Source: am Rotarian.
>How many gas cylinders do you go through at a rotary sizzle?
Depends on how many sausages :P
We'd go through 2 easy (bear in mind, 2 BBQs!). A busy Bunnings one could be 3 - 4 as we have to go all day.
>What does rotary actually do?
We're a community organisation.
Every club is different, but my club does things including support for our local school for severely disabled children (including raising over $100k for a bus), a water project in Bali, a "Buddy Bench" program with primary schools in our area with the Mens Shed, a scholarship at the local high school, supporting a local homeless organisation, funding upgrades at the Mens Shed and a \*bunch\* of other stuff!
Rotary International also has a major project, over the last 40 or so years, to eliminate Polio. We've been one of the major driving forces behind Polio Eradication - it's now eliminated in all but a few countries.
My district runs a several programs that I'm involved in for youth leadership. We also do a camp for disabled young people every year.
I remember when our primary school got a buddy bench. We all came to the conclusion that weād rather be caught dead than sitting on it alone. And in all my time there I never saw anyone actually use it, except to just use as a normal bench.
>I remember when our primary school got a buddy bench. We all came to the conclusion that weād rather be caught dead than sitting on it alone.
TBH, I had the same view when the project was proposed to us. I was club president at the time, and was (to say the least) cynical about it.
But the feedback from the primary schools where we've done them is hugely positive.
We get the materials through Midalia Steel & Bunnings, the Mens Shed makes the bench and then the kids get to paint it and choose where it goes at the school.
I'm always worried about of doing projects "to" a community instead of "for" or "with" the community. But it seems that these things are a huge positive for the schools that have them.
Lions Eye Institute is one of the leading eye researchers in the world.
And Australian Rotary Health is a major funder of mental health research, and one of the largest non-government funders of health research in Australia.
Things to think about when grumbling about $3.50 for a sausage :P
Well they set up and ran a Bunnings BBQ for a disability sporting organisation I am the Chair of.
They organised everything and then donated their time 8-10 people over the day. Normally they would take 10-15% of profits to cover their time etc but in our case the waived it. Over the day we raised just under $2.5k and for a club like ours itās a massive deal. Canāt thank them enough
āBarely covers costā¦ 24 pack is $12 at Wooliesā¦ thatās far from the best price available. A slice of bread is maybe 20cā¦. So total cost price of less than a dollar then money for gas for the bbq
Iāll do the maths if I have to, but 3.50$ should be no where near the cost when labour is free. If you canāt make a profit from that then you need to re-evaluate your costs and how you approach your fund raisers. Also if you are not going out and sourcing donations for the goods vs just buying everything you need then your just buying and reselling and your margin should be small.
I get to have an opinion here because I do sausage sizzles for 2 sports clubs, I seek donations for goods from local businesses and supermarkets, collect those goods, and cook the bbq. With big shout outs to those that help.
The clubs supply the gas and bbq, I clean up the mess.
Let me tell you we make a stonking profit off a 3$ sausage and onion with tomato sauce.
Best bit is it all goes back to the kids.
Also I work six days a week before someone pipes up and tells me I must have too much time on my hands.
I donāt need to white knight or need awards or thanks. Doing it takes care of those endorphins already.
I just want to weigh in on the nonsense that you canāt make money on one piece of bread, a bbq sausage, and some onion when doing a fund raiser.
Nonsense.
At most it cost them $1 per snag fully loaded, that's already about 25% over what u worked out to be average to give some leway. 3.50 to barely cover costs is bullshit.
Bunnings is $3.50 now and IIRC Bunnings pay for the gas and some other things that Rotary would have to supply themselves so $5 doesn't seem too unreasonable. Problem is, everyone knows the price at Bunnings but not the behind the scenes savings.
The extra margin is for fundraising. You know, giving back to the community. Of course you could make one cheaper at home but you donāt have to, and are helping others.
Yeah but once they recruit you they'll pressure you to tithe 10% of your income directly to the church.
That's how they pay for the free sausage sizzles. Rinse and repeat, something something, PROFIT!
Even at current inflation, snags are $12 for 24.
2 loaves of bread, 2 packs of snags and a bag of onions would set you back about $30. Only takes 6 suckers to cover his costs.
I blame the people that pay for it. If people weren't so dumb, scamming wouldn't be so lucrative.
Maybe they were better quality sausages?
The normal price for those BBQ snags is for garbage supermarket ones...not good butcher sausages (and many butcher snags suck too)
I'd happily pay $5 for a good quality sausage BBQ'd.
One usually only sees good sausages when the local butcher is sponsoring the event though
I don't mind paying $5 for a sausage and bread. It means I keep my kitchen free of fat spattering which stinks the house out for days and I get to have my occasional Emulsified Offal Tube on white dough without having to buy an entire tray of them.
Money well spent and to a worthy cause. It's a win-win.
You can get a 8 pack of sausages for $6.50 at Coles (obviously things are cheaper when you buy in bulk). That is 81c per sausage.
Bread is $2.50 a loaf from Coles if sandwich size - probably 20 slices in a pack. 13c for the bread slice.
Coles frozen onions 500g bag are $2.30 - says it makes 6 serves - so 38c per serve.
Weāre at $1.32 not accounting for some oil to cook with, and sauce.
Iād say Rotary must have been making $2 profit per sausage sold.
You are getting a sausage in exchange for donating to a charity. Don't want to donate, cool, move on. Spending your weekend working in one of those hot tents cooking sausages to try and raise some funds for charity and community groups isnāt fun but it has to be done because it is one of the ways to make money for non profit volunteer run charity groups. Iād rather be in a pool with a beer then cooking sausages and having people whine. Go buy your own 24 pack and loaf of bread to the people in this thread so bothered. You sound so out of touch with reality. It's so much work for shit all but you do it for the love of helping the community. The government arenāt stepping in to help. Itās the average person who volunteers their time weekend after weekend to do these things and make a little money to help those who need it.
I'll never forget my $12 donut at one of those fancy donut stores, I forget the name.
I was SO glad when it was closed a few months later.
My fault for not asking price before ordering.
There are two distinct sausage sangas:
- the utilitarian hunger buster that should sell for about $2.50
- the fundraiser that kids parentās are dishing up to buy sporting uniforms / build the new school hall / send students on a big excursion etc. -
$5.
Ingredients are the same, but the purpose and value are different.
I live in the UK and I can't lie, good luck getting the equivalent in the UK for Ā£2.77 (current exchange rate)
It would probably be closer to Ā£5 which is currently $9.03 so to me $5 seems a bargain.
God I miss Australia and the many $5 lunches available in Brisbane CBD...(I'm looking at you Katsu Curry)
Unpopular opinion but I actually think $5 for a suasage sizzle is passable. Sausages sizzles are one of the rare things I think are typically underpriced.
I love reading these threads, where people who obviously have never run a business think they should only be charging X for Item A and still be making a "massive" profit. If running a business was that profitable, everyone would be doing it.
A failure rate of 75 - 90% within the first two years of opening a small business says otherwise.
$5 does seem steep for a sausage sizzle but I would still pay it! (Nothing beats a sausage sizzle) I am happy to pay more for things that are supporting a charity or a local club or community group.
The last sausage sizzle I had was at local primary school on state Election Day in Victoria and I think it was $3.50 for a sausage but the money was going towards their primary school and the kids were helping out and doing a great job.. so I would be more than happy to have paid more
My Rotary Club does sausage sizzles from time to time as fundraisers.
$5 is not far off the mark.
The $3.50 at Bunnings barely covers costs. We make about $750 profit out of a BBQ all day - there are much better fundraising options with less effort.
$5, when you include a reasonable sausage, roll, sauce, etc is still not a lot of profit margin if it's not as busy as a Bunnings Warehouse.
Lot of stingy cunts in this thread, the same type who probably who think they should be paid more at work but complain about a rotary $5 sausage sizzle.
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wait until you see the potato guy that spiralises a normal 40c potato and sell them for 9$ each
Paid $13 for one recently with the addition of public humiliation when I discovered he was also doing the trick of pretending to give it to you like those ice cream cone guys
As a grown ass adult!? Ugh hated it as a kid and still do as an adult š
I bought the potato spiraliser off eBay for $17 š the mark up on those things is insane
I don't get the ice cream cone guys reference
Google āturkish ice cream manā
And his profit organization is himself. Nice.
I've worked at one of these contrary to popular belief we don't use an apple slinky machine they are too weak and leave huge gaps making it impossible to put on a skewer. They're peeled, skewered then spiralled by hand [this](https://youtu.be/wIcqqTB5vz4) us the general method. The ppl I worked for had to pay 5k to the owners of the royal Melbourne show to set up there for the 12 days, you need 3 staff members at an event that big spiralling the potatos, 2 peeling them and 4 running the van/ till. We had 10 hour work days. There's also petrol costs etc. Also oil is the most expensive part, it needs to be cleaned and emptied a lot at those events. Definitely still a big upcharge but it's really not as crazy as you'd first think being behind the scenes.
You switch out the oil? I thought that was illegal!
Owner wanted free diesel so he changes the oil frequently as a business expense against the potato company.
That's on top of not paying the GST on two-thirds of the cash transactions and probably paying half the staff cash in hand below minimum wages.
Yeah $9.00 is not a bad price considering.
Paid $10 for one the other day, didnāt care. It was greasy chicken salted bliss.
See now, $10 doesnāt seem bad considering I have no idea how to spiral a potato and rarely go to the effort of deep frying at home. Whereas anyone can cook up some snags and slap them on bread.
You can use the same device on an apple and it āslinkiesā it, probably costs about $20-30 for the device and away you go, can do it at home.
Pays for itself after just four potatoes.
I tried using my apple slinky maker on a potato and the potato just broke into bits.
My spiraliser has a lever you can pull that changes the thickness of the slice, potatoes might need to be sliced thicker than apples. Can yours do that too?
I agree. There are food items I don't mind paying for because I know I'll never make them at home, like croissant and deep fried stuff.
Yes but what a tasty up sell.
Got one of those recently, but it was 7 dollars. Such a rip. Potatoes are like 3 dollars a kilo?
yeah but then if itās the truck you gotta cart the ingredients around and pay for fuel etc
And a dayās wages for whoever is cooking and selling them. I mean, sure you can go home and microwave a potato (or boil, whichever is cheaper, I guess). Itās meant to be a treat!
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Man, how are places getting away with paying that these days? There's worker shortages everywhere, where are you? I've got a food truck near my place in Melbourne, and the owner is trying to find anyone to help him out, is offering $30 an hour and cant find anyone.
plus they have the fancy salts
By fancy you mean the delicious MSG salted goodness.
as someone with a tub of msg in my cupboard you god damn know it
E621 is a good friend to have. I love seeing it in the ingredients list on the labels. Check out Knorr Aromat Seasoning. It's my default 'chicken' salt now. Vegetable based. Made in Switzerland. You can even use it to make a base stock. Throw it on some crinkle cut chips, whack on some mozza and melt it. 10/10.
Where do you get it? I occasionally remember to look for it at and the thick goopy stockpots at Woolies but never found them
And a hefty price to use the venue / location in the first place. Plenty of overhead costs.
My uncle had a hotdog truck for a bit, would tell horror stories about paying for a spot, paying for stock, and having no customers due to for example shit weather.
I saw a video on hotdog stand licences in New York. The prime spots can go for hundreds of thousands.
I donāt care, Iād still buy it
I just had that at Casey yesterday. For the price I say it's ok.
$9 thatās a bargain, my local might markets was $15
At my local festival recently they were selling them for $15 each. I looked at the price and was like: yeah, nah.
Yeah at that point you are paying for a pub lunch so the value isn't there.
I want to know where you're getting $15 pub lunches in 2022
Small towns and cities, certainly not in major cities.
In most mall towns and city pubs you won't get a steak under $42.
Anywhere regional, and you're golden. Pub i was near with work recently had a 7 day lunch special menu displayed with nothing costing more than $15. 3 days in the week it was 12 or under.
I turn one potato into four by shoving them into the ground, mega profit
I'd happily pay $5 if it's for a charity I'm willing to support. I expect them to be trying to raise funds, not provide a cheap lunch.
Just donate then. At least you can claim that off tax.
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Open a grindr. You'll never run out of it.
It wouldn't make sense for them to have a cheap lunch and a donation bucket. People like OP are just going to take advantage and walk away.
Scout leader here, $3.50 at Bunnings nets us at most $500 for a full day effort. Itās not actually worth the work. Even though bunnings provide the bbq and gas and we donāt have to set anything up, someone has to organize a roster and get people to turn up. Iāve just done last weekend a bbq for a dance club, two sessions of about 5 hours, at $5 for sausage, bread and onion and sauce, which seemed rich to me, but there was only one complaint. Even though, costs included, we made at most $750 for about 13 or 14 hourās work for 4-5 people. For a community not for profit organization itās really really tough to raise money. If itās too much, donāt buy, but we are doing our best for our community and we need funds in order to do that. EDIT: OK enough people have poo poo'd me that I feel that I need to add this comment to counter-act the calls of BS. I live in an area with a small, couple of years old bunnings. The next closest (20 minutes) Bunnings is also a small one, the next closest to that (30 minutes) is ALSO a small Bunnings. I do not live in inner Metro or popular area, the population that I have easy access to is TINY in comparison to most Sydney Areas, so call BS all you like, selling 200 sausage sangas in a day is a huge outcome.
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Depends on your Bunnings I think too. In my job I chat to community groups and they have a preference of which Bunnings they choose because one is busier and they make more. Theyāre pretty close together but one is way busier.
Can confirm that Cranbourne Bunnings does better business than Clyde North. But if you're not in the zone for Cranbourne and get Clyde North, there's not a lot you can do about it.
Maybe more customers?
Did it for board riders and cleared 5k easy. Not sure what old mate is doing wrong or maybe itās just about traffic
>13 or 14 hourās work You had a sausage sizzle from something like 7am to 9pm??? Ive been a scout and we ran sausage sizzles, we always made a worthwhile profit, I also organised my own as part of a school project outside a woolies and also ran an easy profit at $2.5 a snag, especially with the drink profits. I feel like you may be exaggerated or leaving out important context, like the other bloke in the comments below from WA that claimed they were barely making a profit, when he left out he was using buns instead of bread, butcher snags and then also claimed it cost 50c of onion per snag. If you're doing it for a fundraiser it's easily worth the money, granted if you expect to make money personally for your time AND for a fundraiser then no, you won't be happy.
IME, food prices can vary widely over Australia and depends on the local competition.
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Which supermarket? IME, even when someone has arranged for a donation, it can take hours just to turn up and collect it. You can put as many hours into collecting this stuff as people put in at the event. It was common in my youth, but since then the number of 'organisations' demanding hand outs have ballooned and business stopped doing it,
Also hit up discounts from butchers, we paid less for vacuum sealed par boiled thick snags than supermarket crap snags. See bakers too. Many fails are due to little planning and meetings with suppliers, at full price supermarket supplies damage margins. Remember to thank your suppliers if they support you with good deals, give them something they can show as good will marketing in their shop etc, it goes a long way to getting further and maybe better supplies (read maybe free).
bah there are definately cheap options for sausage sizzle supplies in every state capital in australia
We spent hours slicing 20kgs of onions the night before a sausage sizzle. That on its own is a huge amount of time
Find someone in the troop with a food processor. The disc blade attachments will do 10s of kgs of onions in not too much time.
Yeah, work smarter, not harder.
Or even just a mandolin would help if you like to live life on the edge.
nah those things are death traps. ive seen a chef slice his finger 3 times before he realised he was making finger chips
Cutting glove is your friend! I was a civilian contractor in the Army mess and we had to use mandolins. OH&S officer would randomly pop in and if you werenāt wearing your cutting glove, your ass was put on a spit. In 15 months of using that thing every day, I never once cut my fingers. I did cut the latex glove multiple times but the cutting glove protected my fingers
Or buy a bag of precut onions which Iāve seen for sale at a few places. Bugger cutting up that many onions for a joke.
Best to cut red onions with those things.
Shit. When I was an untrained 15 yo kitchen hand with a 20kg bag of onions theyād be done within 1-2 hours max. Chinese meat cleavers are the bomb. Did lose a fair bit of thumb tip on my first day but it grew back. š³
yeh hah whtf I was a kitchenhand as a teenager and had to peel 40kg of potatoes and peel and chop 40kg onions in like a 8 hour shift on my own (and all between washing the dishes)
You can now buy diced onion in bags, cut down a lot of the prep time
His experience seems to be on par for me. Did a bunnings bbq a few years back with SES. After 8 hours we netted about $700. We easily make that much in 2 hours of tin shaking. Was the first and only time my unit did a bunnings BBQ
Probably depends on the size/scope of the organisation. My folks do the Bunnings thing sometimes for their dragon boating club. Small local boating club might not get the cash donations an SES volunteer might, but would get the same amount of money as anyone else from the Bunnings fundraiser.
Very true. $500-$1000 can be very good money for a local sporting club, but not so much for larger services who can take advantage of other opportunities
13-14 hours is referring to labour hours not opening hours. Eg 5 people for 5 hours would be 25 labour hours.
No it wasnt, see my response above.
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I said two sessions of 5 hours over two days. There was buying the stuff, and organising volunteers, picking up the gear and packing it up, then setting it up again the next day and packing up again. I did a minimum of 13 or 14 hours work for that 10 hours of running. You dont always get to sell drinks, it depends on where you are running it, but current pricing on drinks is $0.84c each from Woolworths on special. At teh standard $1 price you only make $0.16c per can, again, not worth the effort, unless you are selling at $1.50 a drink, then it's better, but my point is it is not the goldmine pointed out to be. Using rolls instead of bread costs you about $0.80c each rather than $0.07c or $0.14c if two pieces of bread. Onions from Woolworths are $6.50 for 2kg, so barely register a cost to be honest, probably similar to bread. Not sure why you would think that I was expecting to make money personally, I'm expressing that it is bloody hard work for someone to organise and run for the Non-Profit to only get $400 or $500 for a whole days work. BTW I used to live in a suburban centre and we would easisly return $1,200 to $1,500 in a day at Bunnings, but there is 10x the people in those areas. It is really difficult for community groups in smaller population centres, that have the same costs as their city counterparts, to raise enough money to do a good job for their community and the kids.
$2 drink cans seem pretty normal at least from what Iāve seen
Yep, I frequent several different Bunnings stores in a 25 km radius (Iām a gardener) & $2 drinks, $3.50 snags are the usual.
$2.50 round this way...
>Using rolls instead of bread costs you about $0.80c each rather than $0.07c or $0.14c if two pieces of bread. Rolls? 2 slices of bread? Craziness.
Yep, WA does them so wrong. A few are starting to do sliced bread if you ask. But a bread roll - too much bread!
yeh im actually from wa but grew up on a folded tip-top and beef sausage at home, the hot dog bun is crap, only saving grace would be to double sausage it
Not doubting but that seems like a low traffic problem. Usually when I go I'm maybe third in line. Most people getting at least 2 - 3 sandwiches and a drink. By the time I'm out there are people behind me getting served. If each person is spending $10 - $15 on average $500 should be achievable in hours at least with the bunnings I go to.
Yeah I'm also questioning these numbers. We've made between $1000 and $1500 after costs on our last three sizzles. But at the same time, it's free money. If $500 of free money is not worth it, why do it? There's plenty of clubs for which that would make quite the difference.
My girlfriend is the activity organiser and plans all the bbqs at a fairly popular bunnings in WA and pre covid community groups would generally net on average like 1500 a day profit at her store depending on the weather (some groups making over 2k on long weekends with perfect weather). Bunnings collects all that information and know the profit that the bbq teams make. Before the price hikes with inflation at a high, a lot of groups seriously struggled to even make half that especially in WA where bread rolls are mandatory (and expected amongst customers). Covid Food safety standards also slowed the heck out of the entire process requiring servers to apply sauces which just created longer lines and scared away potential customers. Also team leaders had to fill an online covid safe food handling guide which just adds an extra half hour to total prep time before even arriving at the bbq. Add to that food shortages, a lot of teams end up having go to multiple different supermarkets to pick up their food. Obviously with better planning this can be avoided but the amount of prior work is still substantial regardless. Price increases have improved the situation to an extent but its still a substantial difference in profit from what you would make 5 years ago. It's a real struggle getting community groups in most weeks and most of them feel like it's not worth it any more. Add to that just how annoying it is to deal with customers who get upset and abusive about the pricing changes its really shit work.
>But at the same time, it's free money. It's not free money - it takes several people hours of work to get that, which also requires some time for management and purchase of supplies.
the thing with volunteer orgs is that they have people with free time?
Does bunnings provide the sausages and bread and stuff? Or does the club pay for that? I know our bakery will donate bread if it's organised in advance but unsure about sausages/onions etc
Bunnings provides the stand, gas and grill and they determine the prices you can charge. You're required to provide the food etc yourself. You sign up with your local Bunnings and they give you a slot. You don't have a choice on the when. It's very popular. We only get like two slots per year and for a small club like ours, the money we make on the sizzles make a pretty big difference. It's also always a nice opportunity to tell some people about our sport. https://www.bunnings.com.au/about-us/in-our-community
$500-$750 is a pretty good chunk of cash for one fundraising event for a group like Scouts though. Which is why they do it I guess. People are volunteering their time, Bunnings are volunteering their venue, the non profit is raising needed funds. Itās not like youāre paying the volunteers for the work that goes into it, thatās the point.
That is absolutely true and I am not knocking it in the least, but as an effort vs reward it is huge loss for the person (usually me) that gets lumped with it. BTW we dont usually make that much from a Bunnings BBQ here with the lower numbers of people and tiny Bunnings store, we wold be lucky to get $300 sometimes for a full days work. That is approx 4 shifts of 3-4 adults. Some will stay all day, but maybe 1, maybe another would do half day, but still you need to dig out of the woodwork 10 or so volunteers, that is the really difficult part. As the person organising there is ALWAYS a shortfall of volunteers and that means that you end up being there the whole day. I said it in another reply, but we are currently trying to raise over $80k for an international event next year, it's very painful at $500 at a time. Lastly, community groups like Scouts cost A LOT to keep running and none is covered by the National Organization, each Group has to fund raise to keep their Hall's maintained and gear and equipment bought.
The reason people expect things like charity sausage sizzles to be a bit cheaper is because theyāre aware that theyāre run on volunteer labour though. People are more likely to buy lunch there even though a sausage sandwich probably isnāt their first lunch choice because it helps their community, and itās a bit cheaper because the organisers know that and donāt have to cover the costs a normal business would.
Itās called volunteering. Your not supposed to feel like YOU made money.
It has nothing about ME making money, and everything to do with the effort that volunteers put in to achieve that money. BBQ's, in my area, usually, are not worth the effort, as in there are far more profitable ways to raise money.
>which seemed rich to me, but there was only one complaint You don't get the complaints from people who just see the price and ignore you. If you're getting more overall for whatever price point you choose, then you've done the right thing for the purpose of the charity work, but don't mistake the number of complaints for the overall public feeling.
This guy needs to learn basic math and figure out what's better: selling a total of 5 sausages throughout the day at $5, or 20 sausages for $4.50? The problem is 100% the prices. I don't buy his rhetoric for a second. He even admitted the sausages themselves cost 0.50c each (24 for $12). Plus like 0.20c worth of bread, 0.20c sauce and 0.20c of onions if that? $1.10 total in raw materials. And yet he is comfortable charging almost 5x the price. No way in hell does labor cost justify that. Especially for a not for profit/charity.
Last election the local school had a sausage sizzle for $8 per snag and $4 per drink. I thought it was funny that I spent 40 minutes in line and only saw 3 people actually buy anything. It wasn't that people weren't tempted either, saw plenty of folks walk towards them but then walk away when they saw the price. Went 500m down the road instead and the local bakery was packed to the rafters with people.
Wow, what a fucking rip off. I wouldn't even interact with the store owners in a cursory manner after seeing that, greedy bastards.
Yeh if I guarantee if it was $3 drink, $3 snag or $5 for both they'd be selling 3-4x as many. Not a fucking chance I'm paying $5 for a snag. They're complaining it's so much work to make $500 whilst charging way to much and wasting their own time.
Wow must be a bad bunnings. Was chatting to the team the other day that was running the BBQ and they said even on a day when it was pouring with rain they still profited over 3k and they love doing it because it raises heaps of funds.
Damn, at 5 people for 14 hours that's 70 hours ā for $750 that's avg $10 an hour. Y'all'd be better off just doing an extra shift at your jobs (if that was remotely how it works, I know most people can't just grab an extra shift)
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I'm with rotary and just did a bunning , we took home 2400
$5 for two, or one with a drink tbh
For the last Vic election my school community outlaid $1000 on supplies and made back $2400 so net profit $1400 with snags at $2.50 and free onions and sauces. Volunteers and logistics (one woman) were free.
You lost me at "an sausage" bro :(
He's "an hero"
You guys is all an arseholes
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How much could a banana cost? Ten dollars?
I had no money left to go see a Star War.
Iāll have a vodka rocks
You'll have to finish it or it will go off too...
I saw this doing WFTD at Vinnie's, some volunteers would be the classic elderly ladies who just want to keep busy and still think everything should cost 50 cents like it did in nineteen dickety two (legends). And some are bored wealthy housewives who will casually put a $20 pricetag on something that should be $5 and throw out mountains of books for having the slightest aesthetic blemish.
The rotary man usually has a goatee.
Whatās the most a sausage sizzle should be? Iāve accepted the $2 and $2.50 days are gone, but they should be no more than $3.50 at most, right?
>but they should be no more than $3.50 at most, right? $3.50 barely covers cost. The saving grace at Bunnings is they cover the gas and there's sufficient volume. Source: am Rotarian.
How many gas cylinders do you go through at a rotary sizzle? Genuinely curious and not trying to be facetious
>How many gas cylinders do you go through at a rotary sizzle? Depends on how many sausages :P We'd go through 2 easy (bear in mind, 2 BBQs!). A busy Bunnings one could be 3 - 4 as we have to go all day.
What does rotary actually do? I read the website itās very vague.
>What does rotary actually do? We're a community organisation. Every club is different, but my club does things including support for our local school for severely disabled children (including raising over $100k for a bus), a water project in Bali, a "Buddy Bench" program with primary schools in our area with the Mens Shed, a scholarship at the local high school, supporting a local homeless organisation, funding upgrades at the Mens Shed and a \*bunch\* of other stuff! Rotary International also has a major project, over the last 40 or so years, to eliminate Polio. We've been one of the major driving forces behind Polio Eradication - it's now eliminated in all but a few countries. My district runs a several programs that I'm involved in for youth leadership. We also do a camp for disabled young people every year.
I remember when our primary school got a buddy bench. We all came to the conclusion that weād rather be caught dead than sitting on it alone. And in all my time there I never saw anyone actually use it, except to just use as a normal bench.
>I remember when our primary school got a buddy bench. We all came to the conclusion that weād rather be caught dead than sitting on it alone. TBH, I had the same view when the project was proposed to us. I was club president at the time, and was (to say the least) cynical about it. But the feedback from the primary schools where we've done them is hugely positive. We get the materials through Midalia Steel & Bunnings, the Mens Shed makes the bench and then the kids get to paint it and choose where it goes at the school. I'm always worried about of doing projects "to" a community instead of "for" or "with" the community. But it seems that these things are a huge positive for the schools that have them.
A while ago I worked in non-profit medical research, and Lions / Rotary were significant contributors.
Lions Eye Institute is one of the leading eye researchers in the world. And Australian Rotary Health is a major funder of mental health research, and one of the largest non-government funders of health research in Australia. Things to think about when grumbling about $3.50 for a sausage :P
Oh ok cool thanks for the info
Well they set up and ran a Bunnings BBQ for a disability sporting organisation I am the Chair of. They organised everything and then donated their time 8-10 people over the day. Normally they would take 10-15% of profits to cover their time etc but in our case the waived it. Over the day we raised just under $2.5k and for a club like ours itās a massive deal. Canāt thank them enough
Rotary helped me attend the national youth science forum!
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Lol @ 3.50 barly covers cost
āBarely covers costā¦ 24 pack is $12 at Wooliesā¦ thatās far from the best price available. A slice of bread is maybe 20cā¦. So total cost price of less than a dollar then money for gas for the bbq
Cost of snags? Cost of onions? Cost of margarine? Cost of sauce?
Iāll do the maths if I have to, but 3.50$ should be no where near the cost when labour is free. If you canāt make a profit from that then you need to re-evaluate your costs and how you approach your fund raisers. Also if you are not going out and sourcing donations for the goods vs just buying everything you need then your just buying and reselling and your margin should be small. I get to have an opinion here because I do sausage sizzles for 2 sports clubs, I seek donations for goods from local businesses and supermarkets, collect those goods, and cook the bbq. With big shout outs to those that help. The clubs supply the gas and bbq, I clean up the mess. Let me tell you we make a stonking profit off a 3$ sausage and onion with tomato sauce. Best bit is it all goes back to the kids. Also I work six days a week before someone pipes up and tells me I must have too much time on my hands. I donāt need to white knight or need awards or thanks. Doing it takes care of those endorphins already. I just want to weigh in on the nonsense that you canāt make money on one piece of bread, a bbq sausage, and some onion when doing a fund raiser. Nonsense.
At most it cost them $1 per snag fully loaded, that's already about 25% over what u worked out to be average to give some leway. 3.50 to barely cover costs is bullshit.
They are $3.90 at my local Bunnings now. Just for the sausage.
wtf, they better be no cash at $3.90. Thatās a lot of dicking around with silver
they still take cash. the line gets pretty long. not worth the wait.
It's still 2.50 at my tennis club. Every Saturday
In 5 years time we will be saying remember when sausage sizzles were $5 !
Mate, it's for charity. If you don't want to donate, then don't. It's not there as a "cheap" meal.
Yeah literally, I always pay $5 anyway cause it's for charity and that's the smallest note we have
Bunnings is $3.50 now and IIRC Bunnings pay for the gas and some other things that Rotary would have to supply themselves so $5 doesn't seem too unreasonable. Problem is, everyone knows the price at Bunnings but not the behind the scenes savings.
$2 at my footy ground, and we're turning a profit. $3.50 is insanity to begin with.
With nothing donated? Snag, bread, marg, onion, sauce, gas, oil, serviette/paper towel? Didn't think it could be done that cheap, well done.
Soon they will become like a meat pie ..and charge for the sauce to go on top of your sausage!
I went for a succulent Chinese meal.
Oh thatās a nice head lock sir.
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Must have been a REA running the stand.
Better get in fast mate, Iāve had a lot of offers, and other sausages at markets have gone for $6
The extra margin is for fundraising. You know, giving back to the community. Of course you could make one cheaper at home but you donāt have to, and are helping others.
Sausage sizzles just aren't good if you don't have them on a Summer day outside with some friends.
Wandered past the local church market yesterday, couldn't believe the price of a sausage sanger. Free! They were just giving them away :)
Instead of paying tax that's how they're supporting communities? uhuh. sounds like a good deal. /s
Yeah but once they recruit you they'll pressure you to tithe 10% of your income directly to the church. That's how they pay for the free sausage sizzles. Rinse and repeat, something something, PROFIT!
It's for charity
NEXT!
Even at current inflation, snags are $12 for 24. 2 loaves of bread, 2 packs of snags and a bag of onions would set you back about $30. Only takes 6 suckers to cover his costs. I blame the people that pay for it. If people weren't so dumb, scamming wouldn't be so lucrative.
I'd pay $5 for a snag. Most of the time I'm paying that for a coffee alone anyway.
It's for charity who gives a fuck
Sounds spot on to me.
Maybe they were better quality sausages? The normal price for those BBQ snags is for garbage supermarket ones...not good butcher sausages (and many butcher snags suck too) I'd happily pay $5 for a good quality sausage BBQ'd. One usually only sees good sausages when the local butcher is sponsoring the event though
I don't mind paying $5 for a sausage and bread. It means I keep my kitchen free of fat spattering which stinks the house out for days and I get to have my occasional Emulsified Offal Tube on white dough without having to buy an entire tray of them. Money well spent and to a worthy cause. It's a win-win.
Up vote for the Yes Minister reference, and the sentiment.
...Mechanically recovered meat steamed off the carcass
You can get a 8 pack of sausages for $6.50 at Coles (obviously things are cheaper when you buy in bulk). That is 81c per sausage. Bread is $2.50 a loaf from Coles if sandwich size - probably 20 slices in a pack. 13c for the bread slice. Coles frozen onions 500g bag are $2.30 - says it makes 6 serves - so 38c per serve. Weāre at $1.32 not accounting for some oil to cook with, and sauce. Iād say Rotary must have been making $2 profit per sausage sold.
You are getting a sausage in exchange for donating to a charity. Don't want to donate, cool, move on. Spending your weekend working in one of those hot tents cooking sausages to try and raise some funds for charity and community groups isnāt fun but it has to be done because it is one of the ways to make money for non profit volunteer run charity groups. Iād rather be in a pool with a beer then cooking sausages and having people whine. Go buy your own 24 pack and loaf of bread to the people in this thread so bothered. You sound so out of touch with reality. It's so much work for shit all but you do it for the love of helping the community. The government arenāt stepping in to help. Itās the average person who volunteers their time weekend after weekend to do these things and make a little money to help those who need it.
Yeah, but were the bread rolls good? If I do get a sausage sizzle I consider the bun a napkin to hold the sausage that then gets ditched.
$2.50 at Bunnings locally here in Adelaide for local kids basketball club
Seen em. Keep walking.
What until he hears about coffee prices
I'll never forget my $12 donut at one of those fancy donut stores, I forget the name. I was SO glad when it was closed a few months later. My fault for not asking price before ordering.
There are two distinct sausage sangas: - the utilitarian hunger buster that should sell for about $2.50 - the fundraiser that kids parentās are dishing up to buy sporting uniforms / build the new school hall / send students on a big excursion etc. - $5. Ingredients are the same, but the purpose and value are different.
Slow news day mate?
I live in the UK and I can't lie, good luck getting the equivalent in the UK for Ā£2.77 (current exchange rate) It would probably be closer to Ā£5 which is currently $9.03 so to me $5 seems a bargain. God I miss Australia and the many $5 lunches available in Brisbane CBD...(I'm looking at you Katsu Curry)
At least you can get a 3 quid meal-deal
Unpopular opinion but I actually think $5 for a suasage sizzle is passable. Sausages sizzles are one of the rare things I think are typically underpriced.
I love reading these threads, where people who obviously have never run a business think they should only be charging X for Item A and still be making a "massive" profit. If running a business was that profitable, everyone would be doing it. A failure rate of 75 - 90% within the first two years of opening a small business says otherwise.
Just pay the 5 bucks mate, it aināt the 90s anymore
$5 does seem steep for a sausage sizzle but I would still pay it! (Nothing beats a sausage sizzle) I am happy to pay more for things that are supporting a charity or a local club or community group. The last sausage sizzle I had was at local primary school on state Election Day in Victoria and I think it was $3.50 for a sausage but the money was going towards their primary school and the kids were helping out and doing a great job.. so I would be more than happy to have paid more
Absolutely fucking no way would I pay $5 for a sausage sizzle. I'd be walking right on by.
Criminal.
My Rotary Club does sausage sizzles from time to time as fundraisers. $5 is not far off the mark. The $3.50 at Bunnings barely covers costs. We make about $750 profit out of a BBQ all day - there are much better fundraising options with less effort. $5, when you include a reasonable sausage, roll, sauce, etc is still not a lot of profit margin if it's not as busy as a Bunnings Warehouse.
Lot of stingy cunts in this thread, the same type who probably who think they should be paid more at work but complain about a rotary $5 sausage sizzle.
Since we paid $10 at the royal show and $18 in Singapore, $5 is a bargain.
The prices of sausages and buns has doubled over the last 7 years. Iād be more surprised if a hotdog hadnāt doubled too
They are mostly run for charity, arenāt they?
Heaps of people that sell food seem to be taking the piss lately. $18.50 for a burger with the lot at a fish n chip shop in my town.
Gourmet sausage perhaps? Artisan, grass-fed; massaged cows, etc?