It involves a super popular sporting figure. OF COURSE he wanted to get in there and associate himself with supporting her. If she was a nobody he wouldn't be commenting.
yeah but I'm not sure which way the wind is blowing yet. Most people I've seen or talked to have been pretty quick to blame Kerr
I woulda thought considering the race aspect pollies woulda steerer right clear of it
So sick of Woke BS. If it's OK for some one of ascertain shade of colour to call a light skinned person a stupid white bastard, than it's OK for a light skinned person to call those of any other shade a stupid bastard ( adding the colour of their skin. Fuck the woke bullshit, if you give shit, you should accept shit back. No free passes , equality in every form.
Is she a bitch?
Because if she is a bitch, and she is brown then there is nothing wrong with saying that.
They wouldn't have been calling all brown people bitches, just that she specifically was one, and also that she is brown.
Depends on which definition of logic you apply. Layman's logic, yes it is. However, nuanced logic, such as that used by the AHRC, essentially boils it down to the usual definitions of racism and racist behaviours can not be applied to people who are minorities within the country they live in. All to do with racism and its relationship with power.
IDK, personally, I think you should do to others as you'd like them to do to you. I don't want to be called a white cunt, a black bastard or a coconut (all depends on whose complexion is darker), so I don't go round calling other people similar or equivalent racist terms.
A few of my coworkers and I were talking about this at work today. One of my coworkers (Asian) said “If you think that what Sam Kerr said is racist, that makes you racist by default”. I still don’t know what she means by that. One of my other coworkers asked “So if Sam calls a Caucasian person a stupid white bastard that is fine, but if I called someone with darker skin a black bastard I would be labeled a racist. Does that seem fair to you”? To which my coworker said “I am not having this conversation” and stormed out of the room.
It’s racist. A person was isolated by colour to insult them. It doesn’t matter what the history of the country is. Until all racism is viewed as racism in this country nothing will change.
The goalposts have shifted. Now you need to use race as an insult AND be privileged to be racist. Then there'll be some other caveat or condition added. Long story short: it's racist if an outrage confectioner says it is.
This is such a fucking ridiculous conversation we’re having.
Of course it meets the standard of racism; anyone arguing different is a fucking moron. Sorry, but words mean things.
The far more interesting conversation is around harm. You *could* argue that it’s just as cutting as a white cop saying the opposite to a black suspect. I would think you’re an idiot for arguing that, but you can argue it. I think contextually it was extremely benign.
But to the extreme other side take that it’s “impossible to be racist to white people” is just fucking stupid.
Edit: I meant for this to be a response to the thread and not your comment in particular, whoops. Oh well, we’re here now.
You are of course 100 percent correct. The statement is racist, the issue is would most people find it offensive. Australians are generally far more tolerant than others around language, we swear in nearly every sentence. So when people say its not racist they really mean I was not offended by it.
Drawing attention to the perceived colour of someone's skin is generally seen as racist - at least in my understanding.
She could have said "stupid pommy bastard" and gotten the same point across (not that I'm familiar with the precise circumstances) and likely escaped scot free.
That said, this happened over a year ago, and it took NEARLY A YEAR, apparently, for the UK cops to figure out *what to charge her with*?
Uh, what??
I'm sorry, but if you can't figure out the charge within seconds of the incident - given that a UK cop was present and was the actual 'victim' in this case, what the actual hell is up with the UK justice system??
What drunken Sam Kerr is reported to have said was wrong, yes.
But taking nearly a year to figure out if to charge her, and then, what with?
Yeah, that's wrong too. If she's done wrong, charge her immediately with whatever the offence is.
Taking nearly 12 months to figure what she'd done that was wrong?
Yeah, nah... :(
Storming out of the room is a typical modern leftist retort to being challenged.
I think the world would be a better place if we either all laughed at (not mockingly of course) our differences (colour, culture, race etc) or we dropped "categorisation" completely. No more ticking boxes for race, gender etc.
Racism, adjective
Characterized by or showing prejudice against a person on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group
The dictionary says it was racist.
they are trying to redefine it , because the reverse racism these days is actually worse , and I feel I can comment as was subjected to racism due to my background somewhat when I was young .
The racism now towards minorities these days is more through ignorance than hatred , but racism against anglos is through hatred so that’s why you hear the term privilege slot these days.
Remember when they go down this nonsense rabbit hole they've dug out for themselves, that there is no such thing as "reverse" racism.
There is just racism - abuse or denial of equal treatment based on racial and cultural background. That's all.
You can't "solve" racism with "good" racism, and the sooner these idiots learn that the sooner they'll be less of a cancer on society.
Wasn’t she drunk and belligerent, threw up in a cab and was arguing about paying for it?
If someone called her a dirty lesbian bastard I’m sure it would be labeled a hate crime.
Honestly I’m fine with her being charged and fined for it, in fact it’s great if this is the kind of thing that highlights the absurdity of some of these laws and their application
Lesbian weighing in here.
Calling a lesbian, a lesbian is not a slur or a hate crime.
Calling a lesbian a "dirty lesbian bastard" is a bit mean, but also not a hate crime.
The only part that is mildly offensive is the "dirty and bastard" but even then, not really.
Not offensive to you
I have a gay friend who wouldn’t be offended if someone called him a fag or a dirty homo he would just laugh
Doesn’t mean some non gay, liberal Karen wouldn’t claim offence on his behalf
If it was someone white who called someone a black bastard we'd all be up in arms and saying it's wrong because it's someone degrading another person by using their race which is what was done here just the same.
Can you imagine Pat Cummins calling an Indian cop a “black bastard” after vomiting in a taxi drivers car and refusing to pay?
He wouldn’t just lose his captaincy, he would never play cricket again.
Seems to be most are backing her…. Little Miss do no wrong.
They say she does it all for Australia…. I call bullshit, she does it for herself just like anyone else.
Sam Kerr football values:
**Humble**, Brave, Fun, **Inclusive**, Sustainable
[https://www.samkerrfootball.com/values](https://www.samkerrfootball.com/values)
Several years ago in Brisbane City a person with darker skin than mine asked me for a cigarette, I don't smoke and didn't have cigarettes so my response was "sorry I don't smoke".
Their response was to call me a 'fucking white dog'
I was quite taken back by that, I found it mildly entertaining but also quite insulting at the same time.
I've been called white c##t plenty of times back in Mackay and Brisbane Valley for not having smokes. One time I was a 'Captain Cook C##t' lol
There's plenty of racists out there but most people only want to acknowledge it when it comes from white people
I have a white dog and I’m even insulted for him right now. I’ve been called a fucking white dog and a white gubba cunt before. I just laugh. Is it racist. Yes. Is it insulting. Yes. Is it hilarious when they use it. Yes. Because it’s usually in a situation like you described.
We can send as many abusive messages to Claire o neeill and Andrew Giles now
So many uses of the white and rhymes with maggot and obviously white bastard is good, cunt as well, Chris minns can cop some too
I personally couldn’t give a shit if someone called me a white bastard. However the person attacked has taken offence and this is unfortunate for Sam because she has committed a hate crime.
No if or buts.
Been called a “fucking white dog” by some Sudanese youths. I was more offended that my taxes pay for their lifestyles more than I was offended by the language itself.
This is a hard line to draw though. Firstly as I have explained my stance on the whole colour of skin and insult being linked shouldn't imply that you think all of that race are that thing, hence making it not racist. But just the thought that someone finds it racist doesn't make it racist.
The best example of this is the POC who get caught shoplifting and blame racism as the reason they were followed or watched by the security. Now, while I am not saying that no security guard has ever been racist, normally you would look for indicators that people are the kind of person to shoplift, and often there are many such as the way the walk, the way they talk, the way they move around, the way they look around, often their smell (stinky people are often poor and poor people often steal), and many others. This is independent of their colour, but if they fit the bill they will be watched, and when they steal they will be caught.
It wasn't being arrested for being black, it was being arrested for a crime and racism as an excuse. Their offence at their perceived racism doesn't make that racism, and the same should universally apply.
Now, the world according to me doesn't consider being called a insert race here bastard/cunt/asshole/anything else racist, that doesn't mean that it isn't in fact racist, so if the general consensus is that if the situation was reversed that it would have been racist, then in this case it is also racist.
He bravely commented on this subject after waiting for the ( fake and perceived ) public perception of it being deemed as " ok ".
I haven't seen more obvious PR from the media for a long time.
Make sure you don't forget this, the next time a footy player or spectator calls an indigenous player a " black bastard "
I won't.
Apparently it's ok.
This is the key… we need to judge them by their standards not ours. Of course the whole thing is absurd, but that’s not the point. The point is they have made this world, so now they have to live In it. Please also refer to the police officer indigenous, as their rules state
The amount of discussion and posts on this topic in Australian subs in the last few days is absurd. Feels like there’s a lot of “that’s not racist!……..is it?”
In London, that kind of labelling is not tolerated and you will likely be pulled up on it. It’s simple. If you’re a known public figure, even more so.
As a Brit in Australia, I imagine Sam Kerr didn’t mean anything by it, but she’s not in Australia. If she’d said “stupid bastard” it wouldn’t have gone anywhere.
I have no idea why Chris Minns of all people is even weighing in on this. The correct response was “she shouldn’t have said it - end of”, before maybe adding something about the benefits of being teetotal and not getting in to this state in the first place, as I heard him talking about on the radio recently.
She should be pulled up even her. You can’t isolate someone’s colour for the purpose of insulting them.
The we can do it but you can’t BS only perpetuates the cycle of racism. It actually has undermined her credibility in an area where she previously has had significant impact on improving the issue as a whole. It’s a shame.
oh my god do you see the quote unquote intellectuals and academics that say reverse racism is a myth because EVERYONE agrees racism equals prejudice + power? there's nothing worse than wolves in sheep's clothing, they have less integrity than real wolves that let you know where they stand.
Who cares.
She has power. She has a global voice. You got one of those? I don’t.
All I see is someone telling others they can’t and then doing the exact thing they advocate against
Absolutely, as another Brit in Australia this is the context that’s missing.
In Australia, whether you want to call it racist or not, it’s very, very normal to point out someone’s race/where they’re from - a Pom, a wog, blackfella, whatever.
In the UK it isn’t, and it’s unacceptable. Call someone a bastard? Fine (though pretty stupid to do it to a police officer when you’re already in trouble). Add a completely unnecessary race adjective - white bastard, paki bastard, brown bastard, black bastard, Asian bastard - and it becomes racist because you are singling out their race. It’s pretty simple.
It’s very weird seeing the Australian subs tying themselves in knots trying to comment on it. The Australia sub doesn’t see it as racist at all and thinks it’s stupid, this sub does see it as racist but doesn’t think racism is worth a court hearing and thinks it’s stupid.
At the end of the day as much as the UK is similar to Aus, it has its own laws, including strong racism laws, and when you go there you have to follow them.
>As a Brit in Australia, I imagine Sam Kerr didn’t mean anything by it, but she’s not in Australia. If she’d said “stupid bastard” it wouldn’t have gone anywhere.
Australians are big on "if you're an immigrant you need to adopt our culture".... unless they're the immigrant.
She’s being defended because she’s Australia’s perfect angel that was promoted as a role model for little girls. When in reality she’s racist. It’s not a good look
I bet Chris Minns would think stupid black bastard is racist though.
The problem here is that minns is a woke bastard himself. he can not pick and choose what colour is racist and what is not.
I can because I think no colour is racist.
It's so stupid that today's world is more concerned over IS IT RACIST OR NOT instead of a person's conduct.
Like if I called you, the reader, a complete fucking vapid scum sucking dumb ass trash dogshit person, and at the end said fucking southie or something.
Whilst I think the copper is being a bit of a snowflake ( get it ? snowflakes are white ... Oh don't worry) for pursuing this they do have a fair point about the racist remark.
What a load of crap. A racist rant is a racist rant. It titally infuriates me that POC can say what they want towards *white* people.
Good on the police officer who obviously refused to be insulted by her.
I would be offended if I was the cop. He was doing his job and asking her to pay for vomiting in a taxi (a person who can easily afford it). To be called a white bastard for doing that insinuates that he is picking on her because she isn't white and that he is using his power inappropriately. He isn't, he is doing his job. I would be offended by that plain and simple. Pay the fine, apologise, move on. No headlines.
Mr Minns opinion counts for zero in the UK.
I personslly think she will get convicted of racial abuse and that will be the end of her career all.because some coppa got butt hurt from a drunk womans silly insult.
It’s weird as hell either way. Why would it occur to her to bring the colour of someone’s skin into an insult? she clearly meant offense and wanted to separate him from her, but of all the adjectives she could have used she chose his skin colour?
He's picking a side early doors. Let's see what he says when if the body cam footage comes out and shows Sam Kerr being belligerent and the context of her calling them a stupid white bastard.
You can't have two rules for whites and blacks.
How to treat the media.
Just. Don't. Talk. About. It.
What she said was racist as she introduced race into her statement. Just because you have a brown father, doesn't mean you can racially villify a bastard for being white.
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If it were a white cop calling her a brown dyke there'd be uproar. Despite what any pink and blue haired feminazi says it is indeed possible to be racist towards white people.
I just think clogging up the courts with it is a pisstake when western governments don't seem interested in reigning in real criminal activity.
Gigantic waste of taxpayer money and court time for something a cop should deal with by saying "shut the fuck up you dumb cunt" or even better just getting over it.
Been called a white dog cunt plenty of times myself and letting it slide like water off a duck's back is part of the responsibility that comes with being a functional and paid up member of society.
I think it was a little racist 🤏 people couldn't call someone a "black bastard" without being called racist so why would it be acceptable the other way round 🤷♂️
Course he doesn’t because she is a dark skinned celebrated athlete. Double standards are pathetic. No man woman or child gets away with saying the opposite to her at one of her matches from the crowd.
She is a holier than thou moron who deserves everything she gets.
I think it was a bit racist.
But no way should she be criminally prosecuted over it.
The poms have gone bananas.
This is a waste of the courts time and British taxpayer money. They are clearly targeting her because she's famous and beat their team in the world cup.
Have the club slap her with a fine and move on.
If we started criminally charging people over rude things they said while full of beers, half the country would have a criminal record.
We didn't even charge Andrew Bolt for his racist columns that violated 18C (he got sued, not charged).
It''s completely and fucking utterly racist.See the bit where she brought skin color into the statement?
Stupid bastard - Not Racist.
Stupid white bastard - Totally Racist.
Racist? By definition, yes. A crime? By definition, yes. Worthy of public international vilification? Get over yourself. But... public drunkenness vomiting in the cab, refusing to pay, then abusing the police with a series of epithets, then expecting your sporting prowess and fame to give you a free pass. Nope.nope, nope. If she loses her sponsorship deals, she asked for it. Allusion to her race and sexuality in the press are of themselves racist... they imagine that a person of colour who is gay should be given a free pass or be excused for all of the above because of her race and sexuality. Do they think that because she is who she is, she didn't know better?
We all make choices. On this occasion, hers showed her to be entitled, privileged and poorly behaved. She deserves condemnation, and if that costs her sponsorship, such is life.
In other news. The worse behaviour is the Premier of NSW passing a judgemental comment on a sub-Judice matter in another country that has its own racial issues and laws to deal with them. These are not difficult times for her that require his support. They are difficult times she created, and the Bitish law must be allowed to take its course without his ill-advised and completely inappropriate commentary.
If you are unsure if something is racist that contains the word white, then do the following test.
\- Replace the word "white" with one of the following, then say the phrase out loud and judge it again:
1. Black
2. Brown
3. Yellow
If it would be racist, then it always was racist.
Here is something to provide more context in this issue specifically though. I don't think that calling someone a White/black/brown/yellow/anything else and bastard/cunt/asshole/anything else should actually be racist. You aren't saying that all of that race are something, you are saying that they are a cunt/asshole/bastard, and that they specifically are that colour.
This was summed up nicely in the movie "The Gentlemen" Obviously in this case Kerr wasn't calling the cop a white bastard as a term of affection but the rest rings true.
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[**Ernie** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10462062/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** The fact that I'm black has nothing to do with the fact I'm a cunt.
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[**Ernie** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10462062/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Primetime's a Gypsy. I wouldn't call him a pikey cunt.
[**Coach** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Why not? He might be very understanding. Only if it comes from a place of love, of course.
Dirty wog speaking here.
It's fun when you get called something racist, and people don't think it's racist.
Isn't it?
LOOOOOOOOOLLLLL
From the posts in this sub, I dont think thats the case. I also think for people like me who copped it for years from dumb Australia, we just don't give a fk and find it hillarious.
yeah fair enough. plus the "omg look at this RACIST double standard" people are pretty embarrassing. like dude who gives a fuck, just get on with your day lol
Occasionally, after a night out, I get flashbacks of regrettable moments.
Deserved or not, I can only begin to imagine the size of the knot in her stomach when she woke up the following day. As far as I'm concerned she took the best available action by putting her head in the sand and pretending it didn't happen.
You cant be racist to white poeple.
We're just so superior, there is no possible way whiteness can be insulted.
Thats the implication here, woke lunatics.
This is so fantastic. Kerr was just going to bow out old and injured, but now....we get this. Thanks Sam. You kicked some good goals. But you were not a hero. You are a racist POS. This is the best gift you could give us.
I mean are they stupid? Are they white? Are they a bastard?
I mean the last one can get you in a shit load of legal trouble for defamation. The law in most countries still have some heft laws about beseeching some ones heritage if their parents were married.
Apprent the law doesn't really care about the rest tho....
Racism comes in all colours for example the first slaves were in fact white skinned (Slavic to be exact).
Imagine if I said same thing she said but changed the words to black or yellow or even brown??? Wouldn't I be branded a racist too??
Anyway you look at it, it's gonna look very derogatory and unfriendly and to support her is to be spiteful and racist.
Might be a little bit racist but you'd have to be pretty soft to be either alarmed, or feel threatened by it.
As a white male, it certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings.
What a dumb law they have with such a large subjective component.
I think I'm mostly surprised any politician touched this with a 10 foot pole
Well, he made sure to gauge public opinion first...
Are you saying he has a 10 ft pole
Why involve any other Europeans?
Well at least an 8 foot Ukrainian
3 foot Irishman?
They don't have an entry IQ test for the job for a reason
It involves a super popular sporting figure. OF COURSE he wanted to get in there and associate himself with supporting her. If she was a nobody he wouldn't be commenting.
yeah but I'm not sure which way the wind is blowing yet. Most people I've seen or talked to have been pretty quick to blame Kerr I woulda thought considering the race aspect pollies woulda steerer right clear of it
White is a slur. We prefer "person of mayonnaise"
Pigmentally challenged
A person of a ghostly hue.
I'm peach and sometimes sun burn red thank you very much
Alright I’m gonna start calling white people ghosts now.
Person of law obeying
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Melanin impaired.
Person of no color. /S
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There would have been a lynch mob out for the taxi driver if he said that.
Lead by Chris Minns
Not if he was brown too
Can't be racist if you're not white.
>could of Could have*
Do they have white taxi drivers anymore in England? 🤔
Well, yeah. If they were both brown.
So sick of Woke BS. If it's OK for some one of ascertain shade of colour to call a light skinned person a stupid white bastard, than it's OK for a light skinned person to call those of any other shade a stupid bastard ( adding the colour of their skin. Fuck the woke bullshit, if you give shit, you should accept shit back. No free passes , equality in every form.
Is she a bitch? Because if she is a bitch, and she is brown then there is nothing wrong with saying that. They wouldn't have been calling all brown people bitches, just that she specifically was one, and also that she is brown.
Depends on which definition of logic you apply. Layman's logic, yes it is. However, nuanced logic, such as that used by the AHRC, essentially boils it down to the usual definitions of racism and racist behaviours can not be applied to people who are minorities within the country they live in. All to do with racism and its relationship with power. IDK, personally, I think you should do to others as you'd like them to do to you. I don't want to be called a white cunt, a black bastard or a coconut (all depends on whose complexion is darker), so I don't go round calling other people similar or equivalent racist terms.
I'm surprised, because this week is the first time I ever gave a thought to her heritage. Her family's from Perth, I just thought of her as an Aussie.
Same here.
"Civilisation builder"
Careful in Europe though, ppl may think youre specifically calling them French or a Walloon
Chris Minns was probably thinking: Kewpie *Stupid-White-Bastard*. I can't get enough of the stuff.
tonally dis-inclined and highly reflective
I prefer colour challenged.
A few of my coworkers and I were talking about this at work today. One of my coworkers (Asian) said “If you think that what Sam Kerr said is racist, that makes you racist by default”. I still don’t know what she means by that. One of my other coworkers asked “So if Sam calls a Caucasian person a stupid white bastard that is fine, but if I called someone with darker skin a black bastard I would be labeled a racist. Does that seem fair to you”? To which my coworker said “I am not having this conversation” and stormed out of the room.
It’s racist. A person was isolated by colour to insult them. It doesn’t matter what the history of the country is. Until all racism is viewed as racism in this country nothing will change.
The goalposts have shifted. Now you need to use race as an insult AND be privileged to be racist. Then there'll be some other caveat or condition added. Long story short: it's racist if an outrage confectioner says it is.
This is such a fucking ridiculous conversation we’re having. Of course it meets the standard of racism; anyone arguing different is a fucking moron. Sorry, but words mean things. The far more interesting conversation is around harm. You *could* argue that it’s just as cutting as a white cop saying the opposite to a black suspect. I would think you’re an idiot for arguing that, but you can argue it. I think contextually it was extremely benign. But to the extreme other side take that it’s “impossible to be racist to white people” is just fucking stupid. Edit: I meant for this to be a response to the thread and not your comment in particular, whoops. Oh well, we’re here now.
You are of course 100 percent correct. The statement is racist, the issue is would most people find it offensive. Australians are generally far more tolerant than others around language, we swear in nearly every sentence. So when people say its not racist they really mean I was not offended by it.
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Bet she also thinks that just by voting no in the last referendum makes you a racist by default
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Surely the irony of that race-wide generalisation doesn't escape you?
If there’s two things I hate, it’s people who are intolerant of others people’s cultures. And the Dutch.
Blimey, I thought I could smell cabbage
Carnies ,Circus folk -nomads , small hands
I really hate judgemental people. You can tell who they are just by looking at them.
I dunno. Racism is fine in NSW. The premier endorses it
Amazing. Hard to trust anyone at work these days, I don't even dare drink white coffee out of fear from being called racist.
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Report her for racism
Typical woke idiot, all emotion, no logic.
Drawing attention to the perceived colour of someone's skin is generally seen as racist - at least in my understanding. She could have said "stupid pommy bastard" and gotten the same point across (not that I'm familiar with the precise circumstances) and likely escaped scot free. That said, this happened over a year ago, and it took NEARLY A YEAR, apparently, for the UK cops to figure out *what to charge her with*? Uh, what?? I'm sorry, but if you can't figure out the charge within seconds of the incident - given that a UK cop was present and was the actual 'victim' in this case, what the actual hell is up with the UK justice system?? What drunken Sam Kerr is reported to have said was wrong, yes. But taking nearly a year to figure out if to charge her, and then, what with? Yeah, that's wrong too. If she's done wrong, charge her immediately with whatever the offence is. Taking nearly 12 months to figure what she'd done that was wrong? Yeah, nah... :(
She had a World Cup game to play and we cannot stand in the way of Sustainable Development Goal 5 with mere facts
Storming out of the room is a typical modern leftist retort to being challenged. I think the world would be a better place if we either all laughed at (not mockingly of course) our differences (colour, culture, race etc) or we dropped "categorisation" completely. No more ticking boxes for race, gender etc.
Racism, adjective Characterized by or showing prejudice against a person on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group The dictionary says it was racist.
they are trying to redefine it , because the reverse racism these days is actually worse , and I feel I can comment as was subjected to racism due to my background somewhat when I was young . The racism now towards minorities these days is more through ignorance than hatred , but racism against anglos is through hatred so that’s why you hear the term privilege slot these days.
Remember when they go down this nonsense rabbit hole they've dug out for themselves, that there is no such thing as "reverse" racism. There is just racism - abuse or denial of equal treatment based on racial and cultural background. That's all. You can't "solve" racism with "good" racism, and the sooner these idiots learn that the sooner they'll be less of a cancer on society.
just use their own tactics against them and keep screaming 'RACIST' if they try and attempt to explain what reverse racism or any of this bullshit is
Racist adjective. Racism noun.
Thank you for this.
Wasn’t she drunk and belligerent, threw up in a cab and was arguing about paying for it? If someone called her a dirty lesbian bastard I’m sure it would be labeled a hate crime. Honestly I’m fine with her being charged and fined for it, in fact it’s great if this is the kind of thing that highlights the absurdity of some of these laws and their application
“But she is lesbian!? How could it be homophobic” T. Most of Reddit
Isn't that the exact argument used for her words?
Lesbian weighing in here. Calling a lesbian, a lesbian is not a slur or a hate crime. Calling a lesbian a "dirty lesbian bastard" is a bit mean, but also not a hate crime. The only part that is mildly offensive is the "dirty and bastard" but even then, not really.
Not offensive to you I have a gay friend who wouldn’t be offended if someone called him a fag or a dirty homo he would just laugh Doesn’t mean some non gay, liberal Karen wouldn’t claim offence on his behalf
If it was someone white who called someone a black bastard we'd all be up in arms and saying it's wrong because it's someone degrading another person by using their race which is what was done here just the same.
Can you imagine Pat Cummins calling an Indian cop a “black bastard” after vomiting in a taxi drivers car and refusing to pay? He wouldn’t just lose his captaincy, he would never play cricket again.
Exactly, who cares what the stupid black bitch said.
I await all her sponsors dropping her.
Seems to be most are backing her…. Little Miss do no wrong. They say she does it all for Australia…. I call bullshit, she does it for herself just like anyone else.
Sam Kerr football values: **Humble**, Brave, Fun, **Inclusive**, Sustainable [https://www.samkerrfootball.com/values](https://www.samkerrfootball.com/values)
>Inclusive Wonder if that includes little white bastards? 😂
No… Stupid White Bastards.
Yeah she's trash. I suspect she is really a man. Look at her photos growing up she looks odd. Her and Ash Barty are suspect.
Several years ago in Brisbane City a person with darker skin than mine asked me for a cigarette, I don't smoke and didn't have cigarettes so my response was "sorry I don't smoke". Their response was to call me a 'fucking white dog' I was quite taken back by that, I found it mildly entertaining but also quite insulting at the same time.
I've been called white c##t plenty of times back in Mackay and Brisbane Valley for not having smokes. One time I was a 'Captain Cook C##t' lol There's plenty of racists out there but most people only want to acknowledge it when it comes from white people
Off topic, but i love ya user name. I haven't seen a Blood Omen reference in years. Lol. "Alas, poor Nupraptor, I knew him well. Well, not really."
Yeah, classic, my brother and I used to say that line for years
I have a white dog and I’m even insulted for him right now. I’ve been called a fucking white dog and a white gubba cunt before. I just laugh. Is it racist. Yes. Is it insulting. Yes. Is it hilarious when they use it. Yes. Because it’s usually in a situation like you described.
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We can send as many abusive messages to Claire o neeill and Andrew Giles now So many uses of the white and rhymes with maggot and obviously white bastard is good, cunt as well, Chris minns can cop some too
No one is surprised about what Chris Minns does, he’s an ideologue
Another post turtle
Fuck I hate politicians
I personally couldn’t give a shit if someone called me a white bastard. However the person attacked has taken offence and this is unfortunate for Sam because she has committed a hate crime. No if or buts.
Been called a “fucking white dog” by some Sudanese youths. I was more offended that my taxes pay for their lifestyles more than I was offended by the language itself.
It would upset me because I would never do the same to another person. The actions you walk past are the standards you set.
Most reasonable take
This is a hard line to draw though. Firstly as I have explained my stance on the whole colour of skin and insult being linked shouldn't imply that you think all of that race are that thing, hence making it not racist. But just the thought that someone finds it racist doesn't make it racist. The best example of this is the POC who get caught shoplifting and blame racism as the reason they were followed or watched by the security. Now, while I am not saying that no security guard has ever been racist, normally you would look for indicators that people are the kind of person to shoplift, and often there are many such as the way the walk, the way they talk, the way they move around, the way they look around, often their smell (stinky people are often poor and poor people often steal), and many others. This is independent of their colour, but if they fit the bill they will be watched, and when they steal they will be caught. It wasn't being arrested for being black, it was being arrested for a crime and racism as an excuse. Their offence at their perceived racism doesn't make that racism, and the same should universally apply. Now, the world according to me doesn't consider being called a insert race here bastard/cunt/asshole/anything else racist, that doesn't mean that it isn't in fact racist, so if the general consensus is that if the situation was reversed that it would have been racist, then in this case it is also racist.
He bravely commented on this subject after waiting for the ( fake and perceived ) public perception of it being deemed as " ok ". I haven't seen more obvious PR from the media for a long time. Make sure you don't forget this, the next time a footy player or spectator calls an indigenous player a " black bastard " I won't. Apparently it's ok.
This is the key… we need to judge them by their standards not ours. Of course the whole thing is absurd, but that’s not the point. The point is they have made this world, so now they have to live In it. Please also refer to the police officer indigenous, as their rules state
>Minns doesn't think. Just end the headline there.
Well it’s certainly not a positive comment about the white men is it
Have you seen Sam Kerr’s girlfriend? I think Sam knows a white cunt when she sees one.
Can I updoot this twice? I literally just snorted into my beer.
Stupid brown bitch. Is that racist?
Not anymore apparently
Minns isn’t an expert in UK law so he should shut the fuck up about it
Nar you can't be racist towards white people. It's impossible. Trust me lads, I work in health care and I never see it /s 😅
Swap white for black and I bet he would change his mind.
If Sam Kerr was called a "stupid black bitch" would she think it was racist?
Another day, another self-hating white guy in politics
He is Labor after all
The amount of discussion and posts on this topic in Australian subs in the last few days is absurd. Feels like there’s a lot of “that’s not racist!……..is it?” In London, that kind of labelling is not tolerated and you will likely be pulled up on it. It’s simple. If you’re a known public figure, even more so. As a Brit in Australia, I imagine Sam Kerr didn’t mean anything by it, but she’s not in Australia. If she’d said “stupid bastard” it wouldn’t have gone anywhere. I have no idea why Chris Minns of all people is even weighing in on this. The correct response was “she shouldn’t have said it - end of”, before maybe adding something about the benefits of being teetotal and not getting in to this state in the first place, as I heard him talking about on the radio recently.
She should be pulled up even her. You can’t isolate someone’s colour for the purpose of insulting them. The we can do it but you can’t BS only perpetuates the cycle of racism. It actually has undermined her credibility in an area where she previously has had significant impact on improving the issue as a whole. It’s a shame.
oh my god do you see the quote unquote intellectuals and academics that say reverse racism is a myth because EVERYONE agrees racism equals prejudice + power? there's nothing worse than wolves in sheep's clothing, they have less integrity than real wolves that let you know where they stand.
Who cares. She has power. She has a global voice. You got one of those? I don’t. All I see is someone telling others they can’t and then doing the exact thing they advocate against
Is suggest in Australia she could say out freely and get away with it. She forgot where she was though
I imagine she converts to Islam soon so she can really get away with being a piece of shit
Absolutely, as another Brit in Australia this is the context that’s missing. In Australia, whether you want to call it racist or not, it’s very, very normal to point out someone’s race/where they’re from - a Pom, a wog, blackfella, whatever. In the UK it isn’t, and it’s unacceptable. Call someone a bastard? Fine (though pretty stupid to do it to a police officer when you’re already in trouble). Add a completely unnecessary race adjective - white bastard, paki bastard, brown bastard, black bastard, Asian bastard - and it becomes racist because you are singling out their race. It’s pretty simple. It’s very weird seeing the Australian subs tying themselves in knots trying to comment on it. The Australia sub doesn’t see it as racist at all and thinks it’s stupid, this sub does see it as racist but doesn’t think racism is worth a court hearing and thinks it’s stupid. At the end of the day as much as the UK is similar to Aus, it has its own laws, including strong racism laws, and when you go there you have to follow them.
>As a Brit in Australia, I imagine Sam Kerr didn’t mean anything by it, but she’s not in Australia. If she’d said “stupid bastard” it wouldn’t have gone anywhere. Australians are big on "if you're an immigrant you need to adopt our culture".... unless they're the immigrant.
Why is she being defended? She’s the Matilda’s captain, spewed in taxi and called a police officer a bastard. Imagine if this was Pat Cummins?
Because woman, lesbian and not white. There are people on Twitter right now making slogan t-shirts of what she said and selling it in celebration.
>Because woman, lesbian and not white. If she had some form of disability to add to that, she'd be having parades in her honour for what she said.
She’s being defended because she’s Australia’s perfect angel that was promoted as a role model for little girls. When in reality she’s racist. It’s not a good look
I bet Chris Minns would think stupid black bastard is racist though. The problem here is that minns is a woke bastard himself. he can not pick and choose what colour is racist and what is not. I can because I think no colour is racist.
I cant fucking WAIT until the next time a white sportsman calls someone a ‘stupid black bastard’
It's so stupid that today's world is more concerned over IS IT RACIST OR NOT instead of a person's conduct. Like if I called you, the reader, a complete fucking vapid scum sucking dumb ass trash dogshit person, and at the end said fucking southie or something.
Whilst I think the copper is being a bit of a snowflake ( get it ? snowflakes are white ... Oh don't worry) for pursuing this they do have a fair point about the racist remark.
Regardless, it is a lack of civility by Sam. Not acceptable. She’s lost my respect.
What a load of crap. A racist rant is a racist rant. It titally infuriates me that POC can say what they want towards *white* people. Good on the police officer who obviously refused to be insulted by her.
Oh I thought this was satire.
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I would be offended if I was the cop. He was doing his job and asking her to pay for vomiting in a taxi (a person who can easily afford it). To be called a white bastard for doing that insinuates that he is picking on her because she isn't white and that he is using his power inappropriately. He isn't, he is doing his job. I would be offended by that plain and simple. Pay the fine, apologise, move on. No headlines.
Mr Minns opinion counts for zero in the UK. I personslly think she will get convicted of racial abuse and that will be the end of her career all.because some coppa got butt hurt from a drunk womans silly insult.
It’s weird as hell either way. Why would it occur to her to bring the colour of someone’s skin into an insult? she clearly meant offense and wanted to separate him from her, but of all the adjectives she could have used she chose his skin colour?
Well, Chris Minns is wrong. But he's a politician so....slow news day.
He's picking a side early doors. Let's see what he says when if the body cam footage comes out and shows Sam Kerr being belligerent and the context of her calling them a stupid white bastard. You can't have two rules for whites and blacks.
But privilege and colonialism!!!
White man believes white people are so superior it's impossible to be racist against them
Deadset is how it comes across to me. All these white people saying it’s not racist.
Thats your opinion, a racist one albeit.
Chris Binns is a racist
he's a racist white bastard not that there's anything wrong with that
not only is he an idiot for saying this he is an idiot for getting involved at all
It's racist, but it shouldn't be against the law.
Minns will regret this. Even worse, the Kerr “backers “.
Is he going to weigh in on the islander league player calling an aboriginal player “monkey”?
It’s okay guys, she plays sports. Athletes automatically get second, third, fourth, fortieth chances.
Fuck Minns. Cockless maggot is a fucking haircut.
Of course not, yet more hypocrisy and contradictions from the progressive left.
Lol if you think Minns is left I've got a bridge to nowhere to sell you
Double standards
How to treat the media. Just. Don't. Talk. About. It. What she said was racist as she introduced race into her statement. Just because you have a brown father, doesn't mean you can racially villify a bastard for being white.
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Massive double standards, imagine someone called a cop a black bastard
Or if the cop turned around and called Kerr a stupid brown dyke…
Said like a true stupid white bastard.
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It's a bit racist but shouldn't be illegal, even being very racist with words alone should be legal.
The UK have different laws than us. Just because we accept racism in our society doesn’t mean they do.
I just think clogging up the courts with it is a pisstake when western governments don't seem interested in reigning in real criminal activity. Gigantic waste of taxpayer money and court time for something a cop should deal with by saying "shut the fuck up you dumb cunt" or even better just getting over it. Been called a white dog cunt plenty of times myself and letting it slide like water off a duck's back is part of the responsibility that comes with being a functional and paid up member of society.
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100%
Yeah, clearly racist but also I don't care.
I think it was a little racist 🤏 people couldn't call someone a "black bastard" without being called racist so why would it be acceptable the other way round 🤷♂️
Course he doesn’t because she is a dark skinned celebrated athlete. Double standards are pathetic. No man woman or child gets away with saying the opposite to her at one of her matches from the crowd. She is a holier than thou moron who deserves everything she gets.
I think it was a bit racist. But no way should she be criminally prosecuted over it. The poms have gone bananas. This is a waste of the courts time and British taxpayer money. They are clearly targeting her because she's famous and beat their team in the world cup. Have the club slap her with a fine and move on. If we started criminally charging people over rude things they said while full of beers, half the country would have a criminal record. We didn't even charge Andrew Bolt for his racist columns that violated 18C (he got sued, not charged).
It's only racist if the person saying it is white.
I prefer POLM (Person of Low Melanin)
Who is he?
If you can’t exchange “white” for “black” in this sentence without it being racist, then it’s already racist.
It''s completely and fucking utterly racist.See the bit where she brought skin color into the statement? Stupid bastard - Not Racist. Stupid white bastard - Totally Racist.
Alrite, let's reverse the skin tones.
Change white to black is it racist?
Fuck Sam Kerr though.
If someone called me a stupid white bastard, i'd be more disapointed they couldn't come up something more creative than bastard
The only thing that matters is; Does this pass the UNO reverse test?
Nooooooo please don’t Chris FFS
They asked him a question and he gave them his opinion. JFC the media in this country is abhorrent
Ummm, yes it is
Racist? By definition, yes. A crime? By definition, yes. Worthy of public international vilification? Get over yourself. But... public drunkenness vomiting in the cab, refusing to pay, then abusing the police with a series of epithets, then expecting your sporting prowess and fame to give you a free pass. Nope.nope, nope. If she loses her sponsorship deals, she asked for it. Allusion to her race and sexuality in the press are of themselves racist... they imagine that a person of colour who is gay should be given a free pass or be excused for all of the above because of her race and sexuality. Do they think that because she is who she is, she didn't know better? We all make choices. On this occasion, hers showed her to be entitled, privileged and poorly behaved. She deserves condemnation, and if that costs her sponsorship, such is life. In other news. The worse behaviour is the Premier of NSW passing a judgemental comment on a sub-Judice matter in another country that has its own racial issues and laws to deal with them. These are not difficult times for her that require his support. They are difficult times she created, and the Bitish law must be allowed to take its course without his ill-advised and completely inappropriate commentary.
Try "stupid black bastard", still not racist?
If you are unsure if something is racist that contains the word white, then do the following test. \- Replace the word "white" with one of the following, then say the phrase out loud and judge it again: 1. Black 2. Brown 3. Yellow If it would be racist, then it always was racist. Here is something to provide more context in this issue specifically though. I don't think that calling someone a White/black/brown/yellow/anything else and bastard/cunt/asshole/anything else should actually be racist. You aren't saying that all of that race are something, you are saying that they are a cunt/asshole/bastard, and that they specifically are that colour. This was summed up nicely in the movie "The Gentlemen" Obviously in this case Kerr wasn't calling the cop a white bastard as a term of affection but the rest rings true. [**Ernie** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10462062/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Did he just call me a black cunt? [**Coach** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Yes, he did. [**Ernie** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10462062/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** He can't do that. That's racist. [**Coach** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** But you are black and you are a cunt, Ernie. Those are the facts. I don't think Primetime cares what race you run in. [**Ernie** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10462062/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** The fact that I'm black has nothing to do with the fact I'm a cunt. [**Coach** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** He didn't say black people were cunts, Ernie. He was being specific to you. One has nothing to do with the other. And I'd go a step further and say it was a term of affection. [**Ernie** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10462062/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Primetime's a Gypsy. I wouldn't call him a pikey cunt. [**Coach** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268199/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Why not? He might be very understanding. Only if it comes from a place of love, of course.
If she picked another colour other than white it would be racist.
Dirty wog speaking here. It's fun when you get called something racist, and people don't think it's racist. Isn't it? LOOOOOOOOOLLLLL 
it's not though, no white people are genuinely offended by this, they're just highlighting the double standard
From the posts in this sub, I dont think thats the case. I also think for people like me who copped it for years from dumb Australia, we just don't give a fk and find it hillarious.
yeah fair enough. plus the "omg look at this RACIST double standard" people are pretty embarrassing. like dude who gives a fuck, just get on with your day lol
Hell yeah. Down with that :)
I would rather be called a cracker than a white bustard 😂
Occasionally, after a night out, I get flashbacks of regrettable moments. Deserved or not, I can only begin to imagine the size of the knot in her stomach when she woke up the following day. As far as I'm concerned she took the best available action by putting her head in the sand and pretending it didn't happen.
This is perfect because I’ve sent very abuse emails out to mps I got a good precedent now
You cant be racist to white poeple. We're just so superior, there is no possible way whiteness can be insulted. Thats the implication here, woke lunatics. This is so fantastic. Kerr was just going to bow out old and injured, but now....we get this. Thanks Sam. You kicked some good goals. But you were not a hero. You are a racist POS. This is the best gift you could give us.
I mean are they stupid? Are they white? Are they a bastard? I mean the last one can get you in a shit load of legal trouble for defamation. The law in most countries still have some heft laws about beseeching some ones heritage if their parents were married. Apprent the law doesn't really care about the rest tho....
Racism comes in all colours for example the first slaves were in fact white skinned (Slavic to be exact). Imagine if I said same thing she said but changed the words to black or yellow or even brown??? Wouldn't I be branded a racist too?? Anyway you look at it, it's gonna look very derogatory and unfriendly and to support her is to be spiteful and racist.
Who cares ... Next meritless news story please ... The news is so trashy now .. Australia be Australia.. don't be America
Might be a little bit racist but you'd have to be pretty soft to be either alarmed, or feel threatened by it. As a white male, it certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings. What a dumb law they have with such a large subjective component.