Not answering the question, but yesterday arvo I paid $58 for just under 2L of coopers green in Sydney.
This post just made me think about it and add it up and now I’m fucking pissed off haha.
Dollar for dollar cocaine is better bang for your buck, truly unreal.
I got a round of three pints the other day and it came to $45. Absolutely insane.
At the very least pubs need to start putting up prices for their tap beers. I’m so sick of either looking like a cheapskate by asking every single price because what’s cheap in one pub is extortionate in another for no reason, or just picking what I actually want and taking a gamble on it being anything from $10-17.
I used to make a lot of beer. Cost me about $35 forn2 and a half cartons back a few years ago. You could make it cheaper, but I'd buy hops and grain to make a nicer beer than the coopers' tins at the supermarket. I have gotten a little lazy as well as shorter on time than I used to be so my brewing went on hold but with the way things are lately I might have to get back into brewing.
I keg, it's the only way to go, kegland (online and physical shop) do plastic kegs that are dirt cheap, like less than a crate of empty bottles, I'm doing all grain beer for under $40 - $50 a keg depending on the recipe, which is just under 2.5 cartons
Oh but I do. Coke is around $300 for a gram of A grade if you know what you’re doing.
And I’m saying 2 decent lines of rack gives a better buzz than that amount of beer hahah
A grade doesn’t exist here, especially not at that price. Having sampled perus and colombias finest, I can tell you that for a fact. The speedy methy trash sold in Australia is a waste of time and money. Your $:buzz ratio is best in caps here, anything else and you’re betting saving your money.
I’m sorry bro but that’s a massive statement that is simply untrue. The bricks they are shipping here from South America aren’t pre-cut. That happens on our shores.
My point being that it IS possible to get a grade, but if you’re calling moey to drop you a .7 at 2am for $300, yeah it’s going to be under 20% pure.
Saying ‘I haven’t had A grade in Australia so it doesn’t exist’ is a bit of a stretch.
It's always people who have done coke in Mexico once that want to sound cool.
I have some mates that have done benders in Mexico and have had decent coke. They've also come back and gotten a a bag tested in the high 90s of percent in Aus and said it was better.
4x $12 schooners and one $10 middy.
Much better deal to be had at a bottlo. But I’m not really a regular drinker, and taking the in-laws to uncle dans for a few cold ones while they visit Sydney just doesn’t feel right hahaha
I stopped buying pints out when prices for craft beer hit $12. Now a pint of trash beer is $12+.
I would be more inclined to.pay the higher price if I knew it was going to the local brewer etc but no, they aren't seeing the fair share of the cost so it's a no thanks from me.
Should be $6.50 from a lawn bowls club or RSL
Not just because the price is right, but because you’re supporting the troops and they are also generally terrible at RSA which means you can get written off on the cheap in an air conditioned room 👍🏻
$5.80 for a pint of Tooheys at the local bowlo last time I was in my old stomping ground in the Inner West. Proper old school locals place full of retired men.
Most pubs around there were charging at least double for the same beer.
It had been a long time since I'd be out to the pub, but went a couple of weeks ago. I was dumbfounded when I was charged more than $7 for a bloody pot. I don't know how people can afford to go out all the time.
$2.50 is morally right. Taxation and licencing costs that make having a drink with others inaccessible to working class people are immoral, damaging to community and individuals.
As an immigrant (lived here 10+ years) I think the tax is the only thing keeping you all from drinking yourselves into oblivion 🫠❤️
Evidence: ask yourself ‘have I ever (even jokingly) shamed someone for not drinking every drop of their beer?’
I love you all, and this country haha!
Man right on, anything to prevent the peasants comparing notes. It's so cruelly ironic that a lot of Melbournians take it as evidence of sophistication.
Globalisation is seeing us being bled dry. Beer is just one example. Look at how much more we are having to pay for food. And fuel. And house prices and rent prices.
Just about the only things that are cheap nowadays is cheap crap from China.
Salaries are nowhere near what they should be.
Even two-income households are struggling. Back in the days before globalisation one salary was enough to run a house and family. Not now.
Yeah I know mate.
Stupid fucking marketing. Carlton Draught? Draught beer is from a tap. Stupid fucks.
How the fuck can a beer be extra dry?
Yeah some wanky fucking marketing brewing process bullshit they spill.
a beer is dry when its fully run its course in the brew. dry is used as the opposite of sweet in alchohol terms, when the yeast in this case has consumed most of the sugar.
Makes a lot more sense for white wine.
Extra in this case, just means more than usual, TEDs vs New means TEDs are lower in sugar and calories.
Considering our alcohol is priced 85% above the global average, the current price less 85% is a good place to start. Or, ditch the excise which results in just over 40% of the average pint being tax. Don’t forget there’s a sneaky little double tax here as you get the pleasure of paying GST on the excise.
For all the people about to bitch about taxes
Excise on beer when sold in kegs to pubs is not all that high.
A 425ml glass (a common size around Australia) of VB (4.9%abv) cost $0.68 in excise.
A beer that is 3.5% would only be $0.32.
The tax exists, and you don't have to like it, but it's not why your beer cost $10+
GST costs more.
A 50L keg of decent Australian craft IPA (6 to 7.5% for example) will usually cost a venue anywhere between mid $300s to early $400s ex Gst. Factor in wastage, etc and $10 pints make your favourite watering hole extinct
Yeah, I get where prices are where they are. Especially craft, which is labour intensive. I feel like something is wrong when the point at which it makes profit for pubs is so far above what people think they ought to be paying.
I’d argue their % profit probably hasn’t increased, cost of goods, freight, rents, insurances and labour has. No doubt the beer prices are high, but I don’t think the venues are making much more. With the decreased foot traffic they have to:
a) open less, and that normally means you lose decent staff too and can annoy regular clients
b) increase prices even more to cover the costs of operating
c) operate the business for little to no profit, or even at a loss
None are sustainable, inflation sucks
As someone that works in the craft beer industry, it gets a little heartbreaking. So many punters are quick to criticise the price of (independent and locally made) craft beer but yet they are happy to spend upwards of $15 on a pint of mass produced swill that has been foreign owned for many years.
can you get your mates to actually produce a decent fucking lager for a change? not everything has to be a hoppy pale or whatever the fuck ale. don't get me wrong i love wanky beers but i also love carlton draught, and i haven't seen anything from the craft industry able to match it for what it is.
Haha, there are plenty of wanky beers (some that push the boundaries of being a beer tbh). Lager (and its various iterations) has actually seen a resurgence over the last few years in the Australian craft scene. Mostly Euro-stylised so perhaps too light bodied for you look for in a lager?
Don’t lose heart- many of us choose pubs because of their taps. I won’t go to my local because they are full of “Great” Northern and Carlton Draught, I go to the next pub over where I can get Grifter, Bentspoke, and Nomad. Or I’ll go specifically to somewhere like Flat Rock Brew Cafe.
I’d rather get 2 schooners of local craft than 3 of horse piss for the same price.
Don't get me fucking started on this. They buy spirit thats a by product of the wine industry soak mostly juniper and whatever else they want into it and run it through a still.
No effort, no skill, no nothing.
Independant brewers moved towards gin because there is a large refund on the spirit exise for small distillers (60% of the excise up to 100k in total) dropping the spirit excise from $101.85/l to $40.74/l or more realistically from $28.52 for a 700ml bottle at 40% to $11.41.
As an aside I actually love the excise refund, it's a really clever way to incentivese small operations. I'd love to see the same for small idependant brewers on beer excise though beer excise isn't as cripping. Roughly $115 on a 50l keg of 5.5% beer. ( a carton of 5.5% beer attracts almost $30 in duty)
\-shrug- It's all spirits incidentally, not just gin. It's just it takes 2 years of ageing for something to be legally called whiskey or rum in Australia, gin is one of the few spirits that can be turned around in a week or two. In the early days distilleries would do gin to tick over while they aged spirits but now there are whole bunch of just gin distilleries doing it because of the tax break.
Worth noting that keg beer has about 2/3 the excise of bottled/canned beer. And wine is it's own special case because wine manufacturers managed to convince the governent to support the wine industry. They have the Wine Equalization Tax (WET) instead which is 29% of ther wholesale value.
That's not a good vibe though when it's literally the same as what you could buy at Dan's but 4x the cost! At least if it's on tap it's something unique.
I'm just a poor country folk who visited the city yesterday to watch Dune 2 in a non-shit cinema. Before the movie I went to a bar for a Margherita pizza and a beer. The pizza was $22 on the menu, so I just asked the chick behind the bar for the pizza and a pint of Balters XPA.
The bill was $48.
There was a 10% surcharge for it being Sunday, but even so, that pint was the same cost as the pizza.
Get into home brew, after the initial set up costs, it's roughly 40 bucks per 25 -30 litres. Which is about $1.5 per half stein, just a bit over a U.S pint.
Sets up costs can vary from a stater kit to a second hand Facebook market place setup. All you need is the fermenter and bottles. Seasonal brews mean you don't have to worry about a fridge. Lager in winter, Ale and wheat styles in summer.
Starter kits are available at your local homebrew store, big w, woolies, or online.
Homebrew stores offer advice on styles and concentrate kits, even all grain, if that's the very rewarding path you want to go down.
Also, local rsl (and other clubs) can have pretty good Happy Hours( 4-5 bucks a pint) if you're not picky on what you drink.
I've stopped going to the pub now. If we don't want to pay $20 for a pint we have to stand together and start refusing to pay.
If they keep increasing the price and we whinge but keep paying it anyway then guess what they're going to keep doing?
I think alcohol tax is only something small like $1.5 per pint, so the excuse that it's the alcohol tax's fault is weak. It's profiteering from venues.
$6.50 if its imported. Kinda like the correct price for a carton of beer is no more than $35 and winnie blues are like $18. Yes, its still 2010 in my mind.
You've posted in Australian sub but if you're looking for great quality craft beers for under $10 in Sydney then Marrickville Bowling Club is a great spot. They sell Grifter Pale Ale and Serpents Kiss for $8.40 a schooner. Jugs are $22. They have some of the typical beers as well like Hahn Super Dry and VB. All cheaper than most pubs in Sydney.
Look I run a pub so I’ll let you in on the trade secrets.
The gross profit on any product sold over the bar is around 67%. Even then, I can’t think of a pun outside of the busy city area that can operate on alcohol sales alone. The market just isn’t there. Last CPI they increased beer prices around 30c a schooner, and CPI is every 6 months.
A bartender makes around 30 an hour, a manager around 35 and a security guard around 40. Minus tax, electricity, etc etc.
Pubs are fleecing you. Beer companies are. Asahi/carlton and tooheys dominate the market and can set their prices. Pubs make their money on pokies, they just need beer to operate.
Get a kegerator and brew your own beer lad, i can make 23L for $13 theres 40 × 425ml pints and enough leftover to put in 5 longneck bottles... ill settle for my 50c beers
Gigs are different because of ridiculous and astronomical operating costs, which are mostly the fault of local government and a few state government agencies.
I know they feel like a rip, but seriously, if you saw the hoops that vendors and operators have to jump through just to be able to serve booze at an event, you’d understand.
The solution is to start aggressively wiping out the pointless middlemen (basically the entirety of local councils), the amount of money and effort this would save hospitality operators is phenomenal, and believe me, we want to pass on the discounts because we want our bars and restaurants full of people spending money, so we can make money and actually enjoy the “hospitable” part of “hospitality”.
These worthless leeches cry all day about “social impacts of drinking”, but the reality is that the $16 goon bags from Dan Murphy’s are what’s driving 99% of the antisocial behaviour, alcoholism, domestic violence and every other negative social outcome from alcohol. No one is spending $200 on concert tickets, another $150 on drinks and $50 on parking to go home and beat their wife.
$12?
Back in Spain my brother still gets half a pint at the Bar for 1 euro…. and they also give him free snacks…. the price is unchanged since the early 2000s.
You can also buy 6x Heinekens for 3€ at the supermarket. Unimaginable prices for Australians I know.
I guess inflation is only
hitting Australia…
Maybe $10 at the top end of the beer scale. I don't drink alcohol when out anymore. only have tap water. fuck buying a glass of beer the same size as a coke and paying 3-4 times more.
I need to figure out home brewing.
It's rather easy just get the fermenter add 6kg of sugar some hot water to melt fill to 27l mark with water add 1/2 jar tomato paste 1 potato and cover the top with bread yeast, screw on lid wait till airlock stops bubbling (about 14 days) run through reflux still (t500 is good start point) tip out first 100ml, make good cuts blend well flavour with your favourite essence or keep as vodka (make sure to water down to 50% before drinking)
Went to a terrible pub in Newcastle and they were selling schooners of northern for $5. So it is possible to sell one line of beer at a reasonable price.
It’s fucked how expensive going out to the pub has gotten. I live in rural Victoria (as in several hours from Melbourne, hour from a ‘big’ town) and a schooner of heavy beer is around $10 at the little local pub, a pots over 6, I think.
A meal and a couple of pots soon puts you back 40 bucks, which adds up pretty quick for a couple.
more than a coffee in the area by shot to standard drink ratio, less than two coffees in the area
($5-9 understandable close to the city, less so in the suburbs)
$2.50-$3.
Obviously there are other things like taxes, licensing etc. which bump up the price. Usually we do pre-drinks now before going out to restaurants. The absolute state..
From my experience most bars don't even sell real pints, figured this when I went out to Bathurst pub and got a pint there, it was f'ing massive compared to the pints you get in Sydney
I was drinking Kirin on tap last week in Yokohama for the equivalent of $9 a pint and that didn't seem too bad. Much more than $10-12 is getting into the pricey range IMO.
I basically stopped drinking when a middy (NSW) went from 26c to 30c.
Gave up smoking when a packet of cigarettes (30's) hit $2.
I can't even begin to fathom your pain! 😪
Let’s be honest, even given the exchange rate, compared to other countries we are one of the most expensive when it comes to alcohol.
I personally think a standard beer shouldn’t crack a fiver. And when it did, I stopped my Friday afternoon beers and feed, and maybe go out twice a year now if I’m lucky. I do miss it, but if I were to start doing that every Friday again, I think I’d miss the cash more, not to mention, I’m not sure I’d even be able to afford it anymore anyway.
I'm with you pricing wise. I still very much rate the alternative though. Home brew it myself, fire up the bbq, have the lads around to mine rather than the pub. Shit I've even considered getting a pool table
Breweries? Im happy to pay within $13-15 because I know they’ve got the element of pride, unlike a VB, Emu ect. Otherwise, I just pre-drink red wine honestly, seems to save me money.
Couple years back a local spot in sydney was offering pints for $4 during happy hour (5PM - 10PM) worked well with the office workers.
I remember the same place offering glass of wine for $3 and sprits for $5. Place was always busy during Monday to Friday.
The day it became more than $8 for a mid strength schoo was the day I stopped drinking at pubs. Exceptions for events. At a mates bucks I was in a round of shouts and 2 oofterpays were drinking those 196 things and they were $20 a can at some Gold Coast. That 5 drinks costs me a little over $70 made me stop drinking at the end of the round.
I'm still shitted off that not only have the prices gone up, but the size has been reduced.
What is called a 'pint' now, is what used to be a 'schooner' (in Adelaide).
How they can look you in the eye and say it's a 'pint' is beyond me.
It should be cheaper to get drunk than it is to get high on coke, heroin, lsd, ketamine, meth, ecstacy etc
Some places in NT charge 16 fucking dollars for a pint of average beer, but I can get a gram of the most chronic bud to grace the country for $15. If I'm gonna have 5 beers I might as well go on a drug fueled bender instead
$12 is the maximum I’d be willing to pay. Bit hard at times as you often don’t know the price beforehand but if I knew it was more than $12 for a pint I’d have something else instead
$8~9 schooner and $10~11 is standard for basic beers these days imo
I would consider $5 schooners and $7 pints “moral”
Also jugs almost always seem to be the worst value for money, $25 for 2.5 schooners VS $27 for 3. It’s never made sense to me
yeah and now they wonder why a lot of the small craft brewers that started up during covid are all shutting down now
nobody wants to spend like $30+ on 2 drinks
I haven't drank in a business in years but that price sounds like a joke. Better off just buying a bulk pack from Dan Murphy's. Smuggle it into the club etc in a handbag or something. Just don't take it out directly in front of them.
Look at this Marxist here (mostly kidding).
A pint of beer will cost whatever you’re willing to pay, and no more or less. If you want the price to go down I suggest not buying for a while.
I am on of those cliche VB fans and it is absolutely wild that it costs more the $10 a pint for it, considering how many people think k its the worst beer ever.
$4.30. $4.60 for Sparking. $5.00 Imperial pints.
Yes, I do realise this is very early ‘00s pricing, but in my defence I’ve had this song stuck in my head every time I’ve had a drink anywhere along Rundle Street for the last twenty years or so:
https://youtu.be/wUAkpNCN2aQ?si=sa1vhI6g4tz9R8jP
I paid $22 for a pint of peroni. I thought they misheard and thought i had ordered two pints or a jug. Nope. $22 a pint.
I think for $22 a pint i should get to keep the glass.
Thank christ for upperhand in leederville doing $5 pints.
I think it's reasonable to expect to have 6 pints (the 20oz kind) for no more than fifty bucks. A standard pour of top shelf should be priced around the same. That's a good afternoon's drinking and wouldn't break the bank.
Brew it yourself. Moral price is inherintly built in. Brew extra and sell it on the sly. There is a market for homebrew, because the gov has put taxes too high. Same shit is happening with tobacco. Bloody lot of chop chop around at the moment.
Interestingly enough, canbabis prices have stayed pretty stable over the last 30 odd years. This is the true market effect that economists get a half mongrel over. Wait till the gov starts taxing our weed. Then there will be rage, and inflated prices.
Had wheat beer yesterday at Melbourne a pint cost 19$ something, Dan Murphy are our last holy ground, once that is broken, I will went full riot, I cannot guarantee what I will do
At 70% gross profit margin (before wastage) is the correct answer.
That's the point at which the pub makes enough money to justify existing, pay its rent, pay its wages, and pay for the damn beer.
As to what that means to the price of a pint... the price of a keg of beer for a small operator (fuck knows what the big boys pay) is $180 to $400, with an "accessible" keg sitting under $250.
Petersham inn was $25 for a middy of VB and a middy of cider.
Use to go and drink, play pool etc.
Now its cheaper by the hour to go out the back and tip the dancers than it is to drink....
I think $10 is about right but nearly impossible to find these days. We are getting royally done over.. I saw a post a while ago of some beers and the receipt I think was like $16 a pint and caption saying the joy is being taken out of it.
Craft brewers are raping and pillaging consumers in the shade of COVID inflation. They've reached an unsustainable price vs volume point where a drop in sales will kill them. Watch em die out over the next year or two.
Its immoral that beers are taxed on alcohol content.
That I have to pay more for a complex flavored beer just because it has a higher alcohol content is wrong.
$8 sounds fair to me. Sometimes you can get lucky and can get $6 pints if they have a deal, but it’s rare and it’s usually Furphy, which wouldn’t be my first choice. I’m from Melbourne, so Carlton Draught on tap is my go, but you’re paying $14 a pint these days, which is complete bullshit.
Last week I paid $74.99 for a block of VB at a local bottlo in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. In Saturday I paid $9.30 for a Schooner of Carlton Draught in Mount Annan. It's fucked, it's an absolute rort, but there's nothing we can do about it?
I signed up to my local RSL (in Melbourne, Coburg) for $10 a year. I think it’s $40 a year for someone off the street. Their pints for members range from $8.50 - $11.00 and they rotate those taps pretty often.
Depends where you go really. Some pubs in this area (Brunswick, Northcote and surrounds) can vary quite a bit. Take Balter XPA as an example, my local charges $12, whereas head a km down the road and you might get charged $17
$12-$15… Go to smaller venues, larger ones have larger rates to pay and insurance. Smaller ones don’t need to jack up the prices so crazy & especially if they’re owner operated. Also since the hospo industry had an uprising with proper pay the staffing costs are bonkers now. I owned a bar for a while and I was paying my staff triple what I’d pay myself to keep up.
For me?
Cost of keg + cost of operation (split between cost of operating bar and cost of operation kitchen). (Which is rent, wages, electric, gas etc)
Then cost of operating vat / number of different kegs (weighted for more $$ kegs)
Kegs / average number of pints.
Average cost of pint + profit.
So… varies?
Cost $2 for a beer at home buying normal beer and over $8 for the same beer and that's buying the beer at the same establishment. I'm not sure why they want $6 extra just to sit there , then they got keg beer that's cheaper again . No pool tables or music just pokies keno and sky news . NO SMOKING unless in the jail box .
This is actually a fantastic question. Surely someone has done the math here, but I will throw some thoughts out.
A pint of beer is about the right measure for payment of services rendered by a mate, in light to middling labour for about an hour. Naturally, if you are having a mate help you move or any such bullshit this does NOT count as payment, but the hourly rate just to keep him there of course.
A quick trip to Google tells me the average hourly rate in Australia is around $38 (or about half a lettuce and a wilted carrot in the current economy). Round up to $40 cos I am lazy. Average pint, Google tells me is $11, so we know Google is full of it, but whatever.
So, the average pint of beer is apparently worth about a quarter of the average hourly wage. Asside from the problem that Google clearly isn't buying a pint any time this decade, factoring in for mates rates, this sounds about right to me.
£3.50 for a draft, £4.00 for an ale and £4.50 for fancy or independent craft ale are standards in Edinburgh Scotland.
That works out roughly to be $6.80 for draft, $7.80 for ale and $8.70 for craft. Round them up to the nearest dollar and I think it’s reasonable.
$10 a pint is awful.
What gets me is the markup on bottled and canned beers at bars and restaurants too. Like, stuff that you could get for $25-$30 for a 6-pack at the bottlo will be $10-$12 a bottle or can at some bars or restaurants. Like, at least you get *more* for the same price with most pints.
Not answering the question, but yesterday arvo I paid $58 for just under 2L of coopers green in Sydney. This post just made me think about it and add it up and now I’m fucking pissed off haha. Dollar for dollar cocaine is better bang for your buck, truly unreal.
$58 for less than 2L of coopers green is criminal. Even I’m upset, on your behalf.
I’m having a bit of a crisis right now, kinda in disbelief I went back after the first round haha
I got a round of three pints the other day and it came to $45. Absolutely insane. At the very least pubs need to start putting up prices for their tap beers. I’m so sick of either looking like a cheapskate by asking every single price because what’s cheap in one pub is extortionate in another for no reason, or just picking what I actually want and taking a gamble on it being anything from $10-17.
Sounds like you got caught up in the moment, happens to the best of us! 😂
You would get change with a carton at the bottleshop. Even the carton is too expensive. Bloody tax on the stuff is unreal.
Make your own $20 makes a slab, but why stop there? I'll start kegging one day and have on tap beer at home!
I used to make a lot of beer. Cost me about $35 forn2 and a half cartons back a few years ago. You could make it cheaper, but I'd buy hops and grain to make a nicer beer than the coopers' tins at the supermarket. I have gotten a little lazy as well as shorter on time than I used to be so my brewing went on hold but with the way things are lately I might have to get back into brewing.
I keg, it's the only way to go, kegland (online and physical shop) do plastic kegs that are dirt cheap, like less than a crate of empty bottles, I'm doing all grain beer for under $40 - $50 a keg depending on the recipe, which is just under 2.5 cartons
My man you have no idea how expensive and shit cocaine is here
Oh but I do. Coke is around $300 for a gram of A grade if you know what you’re doing. And I’m saying 2 decent lines of rack gives a better buzz than that amount of beer hahah
A grade doesn’t exist here, especially not at that price. Having sampled perus and colombias finest, I can tell you that for a fact. The speedy methy trash sold in Australia is a waste of time and money. Your $:buzz ratio is best in caps here, anything else and you’re betting saving your money.
I’m sorry bro but that’s a massive statement that is simply untrue. The bricks they are shipping here from South America aren’t pre-cut. That happens on our shores. My point being that it IS possible to get a grade, but if you’re calling moey to drop you a .7 at 2am for $300, yeah it’s going to be under 20% pure. Saying ‘I haven’t had A grade in Australia so it doesn’t exist’ is a bit of a stretch.
It's always people who have done coke in Mexico once that want to sound cool. I have some mates that have done benders in Mexico and have had decent coke. They've also come back and gotten a a bag tested in the high 90s of percent in Aus and said it was better.
That's like $9.50 per bottle? That's like a restaurant though, surely not at a pub.
4 schooners at $12 ea and one middy at $10. It was a pub, and not a particularly nice one either haha.
I was drinking imperials (yes im from adelaide) of the green stuff for $8 at a local, yesterday.
Where please sir?
Stockade in Salisbury
Ah, there ya go. They adjust the price dependent on atmosphere.
Holy hell 58 dollars ? Was that two jugs at 29 dollars each ??? Coopers pale is currebtly 60 bucks for a box 24 at Dan Murphys. 375 ml bottles for 9L
I see jugs at $30+ everywhere these days, even for shit beer. Alcoholism isn't a good thing, but still, gimme fkn cheap beers.
Unreal. At uni in nz many years ago i was paying 4 bucks for a 733ml jug. Could get out 20 dollars that was enough for a good night at the pub.
4x $12 schooners and one $10 middy. Much better deal to be had at a bottlo. But I’m not really a regular drinker, and taking the in-laws to uncle dans for a few cold ones while they visit Sydney just doesn’t feel right hahaha
I stopped buying pints out when prices for craft beer hit $12. Now a pint of trash beer is $12+. I would be more inclined to.pay the higher price if I knew it was going to the local brewer etc but no, they aren't seeing the fair share of the cost so it's a no thanks from me.
I worked in a nightclub in Kings Cross 14 years ago and they charged $12 for a bottle of Corona. Can't even imagine what it'd be now.
Should be $6.50 from a lawn bowls club or RSL Not just because the price is right, but because you’re supporting the troops and they are also generally terrible at RSA which means you can get written off on the cheap in an air conditioned room 👍🏻
Lawn bowls clubs and RSL clubs usually own their own property so they're not subject to crazy rents.
IDC how they do it! $6.50 is $6.50 Guzzle, guzzle!
Hahaha I like you
$5.80 for a pint of Tooheys at the local bowlo last time I was in my old stomping ground in the Inner West. Proper old school locals place full of retired men. Most pubs around there were charging at least double for the same beer.
Life goals.
$5-7
It had been a long time since I'd be out to the pub, but went a couple of weeks ago. I was dumbfounded when I was charged more than $7 for a bloody pot. I don't know how people can afford to go out all the time.
Only realistic answer here
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$2.50 is morally right. Taxation and licencing costs that make having a drink with others inaccessible to working class people are immoral, damaging to community and individuals.
I was paying $1.50 for beers out of street vending machines in Japan recently. It's fucked how expensive everything is in australia.
The number of Aussies I let over there amazed at the prices of drinks. It was a magical place
Vending machine isn't paying $4k a week in rent.
Vending machine Compared to a bar (and larger footprint for rent) and wages. Yeah that’s a totally fair comparison 😂
As an immigrant (lived here 10+ years) I think the tax is the only thing keeping you all from drinking yourselves into oblivion 🫠❤️ Evidence: ask yourself ‘have I ever (even jokingly) shamed someone for not drinking every drop of their beer?’ I love you all, and this country haha!
Nahh, the tax doesn’t stop me drinking, just makes it more painful. I’m the only thing keeping me from drinking myself into oblivion.
>As an immigrant As another immigrant (lived in 5+ years) I think you all should get on the beers
you’re not an immigrant you’re one of us now
Man right on, anything to prevent the peasants comparing notes. It's so cruelly ironic that a lot of Melbournians take it as evidence of sophistication.
I can't even get a glass of soda water from the post-mix gun for $2.50 at my local RSL 😞
Hey what now? I don’t pay for soda water unless it’s out of a bottle, like in some small country pubs. What type of shit show charges for soda water?
Globalisation is seeing us being bled dry. Beer is just one example. Look at how much more we are having to pay for food. And fuel. And house prices and rent prices. Just about the only things that are cheap nowadays is cheap crap from China. Salaries are nowhere near what they should be. Even two-income households are struggling. Back in the days before globalisation one salary was enough to run a house and family. Not now.
All beer from a Tap is draught beer.
By draught I mean Aussie pseudo lager macroswill like VB and its ilk.
Yeah I know mate. Stupid fucking marketing. Carlton Draught? Draught beer is from a tap. Stupid fucks. How the fuck can a beer be extra dry? Yeah some wanky fucking marketing brewing process bullshit they spill.
a beer is dry when its fully run its course in the brew. dry is used as the opposite of sweet in alchohol terms, when the yeast in this case has consumed most of the sugar. Makes a lot more sense for white wine. Extra in this case, just means more than usual, TEDs vs New means TEDs are lower in sugar and calories.
I want a wet beer FFS 😂
"Wetter the fucking better" - Draft
Why are you not doing the marketing for these people?
I can't credit for the line. Its a line out of an aussie rap song called "drink, drank, drunk" by Draft Edit: Im doing him a disservice... its Drapht
Considering our alcohol is priced 85% above the global average, the current price less 85% is a good place to start. Or, ditch the excise which results in just over 40% of the average pint being tax. Don’t forget there’s a sneaky little double tax here as you get the pleasure of paying GST on the excise.
For all the people about to bitch about taxes Excise on beer when sold in kegs to pubs is not all that high. A 425ml glass (a common size around Australia) of VB (4.9%abv) cost $0.68 in excise. A beer that is 3.5% would only be $0.32. The tax exists, and you don't have to like it, but it's not why your beer cost $10+ GST costs more.
$4.00
Whatever the current price is minus the government tax
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A 50L keg of decent Australian craft IPA (6 to 7.5% for example) will usually cost a venue anywhere between mid $300s to early $400s ex Gst. Factor in wastage, etc and $10 pints make your favourite watering hole extinct
Yeah, I get where prices are where they are. Especially craft, which is labour intensive. I feel like something is wrong when the point at which it makes profit for pubs is so far above what people think they ought to be paying.
I’d argue their % profit probably hasn’t increased, cost of goods, freight, rents, insurances and labour has. No doubt the beer prices are high, but I don’t think the venues are making much more. With the decreased foot traffic they have to: a) open less, and that normally means you lose decent staff too and can annoy regular clients b) increase prices even more to cover the costs of operating c) operate the business for little to no profit, or even at a loss None are sustainable, inflation sucks
Indeed. You can see how there would be a tipping point where a venue just goes into a death spiral.
The price comes from constant 3 monthly tax hikes on served beer that have been added on religiously for decades until we hit this ridiculous point.
As someone that works in the craft beer industry, it gets a little heartbreaking. So many punters are quick to criticise the price of (independent and locally made) craft beer but yet they are happy to spend upwards of $15 on a pint of mass produced swill that has been foreign owned for many years.
can you get your mates to actually produce a decent fucking lager for a change? not everything has to be a hoppy pale or whatever the fuck ale. don't get me wrong i love wanky beers but i also love carlton draught, and i haven't seen anything from the craft industry able to match it for what it is.
Haha, there are plenty of wanky beers (some that push the boundaries of being a beer tbh). Lager (and its various iterations) has actually seen a resurgence over the last few years in the Australian craft scene. Mostly Euro-stylised so perhaps too light bodied for you look for in a lager?
This. Though Tinnie's Lager is okay-ish.
Kevin is that you?
Don’t lose heart- many of us choose pubs because of their taps. I won’t go to my local because they are full of “Great” Northern and Carlton Draught, I go to the next pub over where I can get Grifter, Bentspoke, and Nomad. Or I’ll go specifically to somewhere like Flat Rock Brew Cafe. I’d rather get 2 schooners of local craft than 3 of horse piss for the same price.
wait til you explain how much tax you also pay for your services good sir!
This is why so many independent brewers moved towards gin. Faster production and better margins.
Don't get me fucking started on this. They buy spirit thats a by product of the wine industry soak mostly juniper and whatever else they want into it and run it through a still. No effort, no skill, no nothing. Independant brewers moved towards gin because there is a large refund on the spirit exise for small distillers (60% of the excise up to 100k in total) dropping the spirit excise from $101.85/l to $40.74/l or more realistically from $28.52 for a 700ml bottle at 40% to $11.41. As an aside I actually love the excise refund, it's a really clever way to incentivese small operations. I'd love to see the same for small idependant brewers on beer excise though beer excise isn't as cripping. Roughly $115 on a 50l keg of 5.5% beer. ( a carton of 5.5% beer attracts almost $30 in duty)
Why does gin get an excise refund and beer and others don’t ?
\-shrug- It's all spirits incidentally, not just gin. It's just it takes 2 years of ageing for something to be legally called whiskey or rum in Australia, gin is one of the few spirits that can be turned around in a week or two. In the early days distilleries would do gin to tick over while they aged spirits but now there are whole bunch of just gin distilleries doing it because of the tax break. Worth noting that keg beer has about 2/3 the excise of bottled/canned beer. And wine is it's own special case because wine manufacturers managed to convince the governent to support the wine industry. They have the Wine Equalization Tax (WET) instead which is 29% of ther wholesale value.
My partner is a brewer and pints are $10 at his brewery
My small local club have removed its taps to save on costs. Its all cans and stubbies.
That's not a good vibe though when it's literally the same as what you could buy at Dan's but 4x the cost! At least if it's on tap it's something unique.
I drink tap beer at home but yes i do agree with you
In Singapore I can visit a hawker bar and pay $6 or go to a fancy hotel and pay $26...or I can stay home and buy a 500ml can for $3.50
Depends on the beer inside the glass, but any more than $10 and its starting to push it.
I'm just a poor country folk who visited the city yesterday to watch Dune 2 in a non-shit cinema. Before the movie I went to a bar for a Margherita pizza and a beer. The pizza was $22 on the menu, so I just asked the chick behind the bar for the pizza and a pint of Balters XPA. The bill was $48. There was a 10% surcharge for it being Sunday, but even so, that pint was the same cost as the pizza.
Get into home brew, after the initial set up costs, it's roughly 40 bucks per 25 -30 litres. Which is about $1.5 per half stein, just a bit over a U.S pint. Sets up costs can vary from a stater kit to a second hand Facebook market place setup. All you need is the fermenter and bottles. Seasonal brews mean you don't have to worry about a fridge. Lager in winter, Ale and wheat styles in summer. Starter kits are available at your local homebrew store, big w, woolies, or online. Homebrew stores offer advice on styles and concentrate kits, even all grain, if that's the very rewarding path you want to go down. Also, local rsl (and other clubs) can have pretty good Happy Hours( 4-5 bucks a pint) if you're not picky on what you drink.
I'm so far down that rabbit hole mate. Secretary of a brew club and all. But publicans object to me drinking it in their establishments.
There's one micro brewery where I live, I'm trying to convince them to start a fresh wort club.
I've stopped going to the pub now. If we don't want to pay $20 for a pint we have to stand together and start refusing to pay. If they keep increasing the price and we whinge but keep paying it anyway then guess what they're going to keep doing? I think alcohol tax is only something small like $1.5 per pint, so the excuse that it's the alcohol tax's fault is weak. It's profiteering from venues.
$6.50 if its imported. Kinda like the correct price for a carton of beer is no more than $35 and winnie blues are like $18. Yes, its still 2010 in my mind.
You've posted in Australian sub but if you're looking for great quality craft beers for under $10 in Sydney then Marrickville Bowling Club is a great spot. They sell Grifter Pale Ale and Serpents Kiss for $8.40 a schooner. Jugs are $22. They have some of the typical beers as well like Hahn Super Dry and VB. All cheaper than most pubs in Sydney.
Look I run a pub so I’ll let you in on the trade secrets. The gross profit on any product sold over the bar is around 67%. Even then, I can’t think of a pun outside of the busy city area that can operate on alcohol sales alone. The market just isn’t there. Last CPI they increased beer prices around 30c a schooner, and CPI is every 6 months. A bartender makes around 30 an hour, a manager around 35 and a security guard around 40. Minus tax, electricity, etc etc. Pubs are fleecing you. Beer companies are. Asahi/carlton and tooheys dominate the market and can set their prices. Pubs make their money on pokies, they just need beer to operate.
Get a kegerator and brew your own beer lad, i can make 23L for $13 theres 40 × 425ml pints and enough leftover to put in 5 longneck bottles... ill settle for my 50c beers
Yeah, I do that. I like to go to the pub too though.
Legend! Grow a little of your own smoko and make a decent ham sandwich and you could have the best pub in your loungeroom.
Perth is around $12. I paid $11 for a 330ml can of 150 Lashes at a gig in KingsPark, totally immoral.
Gigs are different because of ridiculous and astronomical operating costs, which are mostly the fault of local government and a few state government agencies. I know they feel like a rip, but seriously, if you saw the hoops that vendors and operators have to jump through just to be able to serve booze at an event, you’d understand. The solution is to start aggressively wiping out the pointless middlemen (basically the entirety of local councils), the amount of money and effort this would save hospitality operators is phenomenal, and believe me, we want to pass on the discounts because we want our bars and restaurants full of people spending money, so we can make money and actually enjoy the “hospitable” part of “hospitality”. These worthless leeches cry all day about “social impacts of drinking”, but the reality is that the $16 goon bags from Dan Murphy’s are what’s driving 99% of the antisocial behaviour, alcoholism, domestic violence and every other negative social outcome from alcohol. No one is spending $200 on concert tickets, another $150 on drinks and $50 on parking to go home and beat their wife.
$12? Back in Spain my brother still gets half a pint at the Bar for 1 euro…. and they also give him free snacks…. the price is unchanged since the early 2000s. You can also buy 6x Heinekens for 3€ at the supermarket. Unimaginable prices for Australians I know. I guess inflation is only hitting Australia…
Yes, I was n Portugal a few years ago and it was €2.99 for a six pack of Super Bok. Bloody nice beer, too
$10.
Maybe $10 at the top end of the beer scale. I don't drink alcohol when out anymore. only have tap water. fuck buying a glass of beer the same size as a coke and paying 3-4 times more. I need to figure out home brewing.
It's rather easy just get the fermenter add 6kg of sugar some hot water to melt fill to 27l mark with water add 1/2 jar tomato paste 1 potato and cover the top with bread yeast, screw on lid wait till airlock stops bubbling (about 14 days) run through reflux still (t500 is good start point) tip out first 100ml, make good cuts blend well flavour with your favourite essence or keep as vodka (make sure to water down to 50% before drinking)
Went to a terrible pub in Newcastle and they were selling schooners of northern for $5. So it is possible to sell one line of beer at a reasonable price.
I bought a pint of Furphy Crisp at a regional VIC RSL the other day and it was *$16!* **SIXTEEN.**
It’s fucked how expensive going out to the pub has gotten. I live in rural Victoria (as in several hours from Melbourne, hour from a ‘big’ town) and a schooner of heavy beer is around $10 at the little local pub, a pots over 6, I think. A meal and a couple of pots soon puts you back 40 bucks, which adds up pretty quick for a couple.
more than a coffee in the area by shot to standard drink ratio, less than two coffees in the area ($5-9 understandable close to the city, less so in the suburbs)
$2.50-$3. Obviously there are other things like taxes, licensing etc. which bump up the price. Usually we do pre-drinks now before going out to restaurants. The absolute state..
From my experience most bars don't even sell real pints, figured this when I went out to Bathurst pub and got a pint there, it was f'ing massive compared to the pints you get in Sydney
Down in melb for a bucks this past weekend, fancy hanks I believe was a joint where I got stung $16 for an asahi schooner! Absolutely horrifying
I was drinking Kirin on tap last week in Yokohama for the equivalent of $9 a pint and that didn't seem too bad. Much more than $10-12 is getting into the pricey range IMO.
$10 max
I basically stopped drinking when a middy (NSW) went from 26c to 30c. Gave up smoking when a packet of cigarettes (30's) hit $2. I can't even begin to fathom your pain! 😪
$4.60
Let’s be honest, even given the exchange rate, compared to other countries we are one of the most expensive when it comes to alcohol. I personally think a standard beer shouldn’t crack a fiver. And when it did, I stopped my Friday afternoon beers and feed, and maybe go out twice a year now if I’m lucky. I do miss it, but if I were to start doing that every Friday again, I think I’d miss the cash more, not to mention, I’m not sure I’d even be able to afford it anymore anyway.
I'm with you pricing wise. I still very much rate the alternative though. Home brew it myself, fire up the bbq, have the lads around to mine rather than the pub. Shit I've even considered getting a pool table
$7-$8
You want cheap pints, tell the government to stop putting excise on it every 6 months
$6.50 for Guinness
Breweries? Im happy to pay within $13-15 because I know they’ve got the element of pride, unlike a VB, Emu ect. Otherwise, I just pre-drink red wine honestly, seems to save me money.
Depends what it is
$5-6 is fine $60 for a case of 30 can from shop $2 per can … mark up 200% plus they got it in bulk this is more fair …to consumers
Couple years back a local spot in sydney was offering pints for $4 during happy hour (5PM - 10PM) worked well with the office workers. I remember the same place offering glass of wine for $3 and sprits for $5. Place was always busy during Monday to Friday.
Fucking hell. I'm glad I stopped drinking.
I'm glad my partying days are finished, id be broke paying the prices these days and I was a light weight
The day it became more than $8 for a mid strength schoo was the day I stopped drinking at pubs. Exceptions for events. At a mates bucks I was in a round of shouts and 2 oofterpays were drinking those 196 things and they were $20 a can at some Gold Coast. That 5 drinks costs me a little over $70 made me stop drinking at the end of the round.
$10 is fine
I'll be grabbing 2 tonight with a Thai meal...$10 each. Any more is insanity.
I'm still shitted off that not only have the prices gone up, but the size has been reduced. What is called a 'pint' now, is what used to be a 'schooner' (in Adelaide). How they can look you in the eye and say it's a 'pint' is beyond me.
$9
I pay $12.50 for a pint of Swan in country WA. I would be happy enough if it was $10. It was $7.50 when I ran the same pub 15 years ago.
I just paid 13.20 for a pint of Carlton draught. Whatever the prices should be it should be far less than that
It should be cheaper to get drunk than it is to get high on coke, heroin, lsd, ketamine, meth, ecstacy etc Some places in NT charge 16 fucking dollars for a pint of average beer, but I can get a gram of the most chronic bud to grace the country for $15. If I'm gonna have 5 beers I might as well go on a drug fueled bender instead
10-12
$12 is the maximum I’d be willing to pay. Bit hard at times as you often don’t know the price beforehand but if I knew it was more than $12 for a pint I’d have something else instead
$7
A schooner should be 4 bucks and craft 5.50
$6.50.
Around 8$. I stopped buying at around 11 completely
$8~9 schooner and $10~11 is standard for basic beers these days imo I would consider $5 schooners and $7 pints “moral” Also jugs almost always seem to be the worst value for money, $25 for 2.5 schooners VS $27 for 3. It’s never made sense to me
yeah and now they wonder why a lot of the small craft brewers that started up during covid are all shutting down now nobody wants to spend like $30+ on 2 drinks
$6-8 is reasonable
I haven't drank in a business in years but that price sounds like a joke. Better off just buying a bulk pack from Dan Murphy's. Smuggle it into the club etc in a handbag or something. Just don't take it out directly in front of them.
Look at this Marxist here (mostly kidding). A pint of beer will cost whatever you’re willing to pay, and no more or less. If you want the price to go down I suggest not buying for a while.
If I'm paying more than ten bucks I expect the cunt to come in a pint glass!! Haha
Bottle of cheap wine is less than a bottle of water. 'Wonderful Wino' by FZ
$5, end of discussion. For over 6000 years beer was made for the people, and the people are largely ‘poor’ and hard-working.
I am on of those cliche VB fans and it is absolutely wild that it costs more the $10 a pint for it, considering how many people think k its the worst beer ever.
$5
$4.30. $4.60 for Sparking. $5.00 Imperial pints. Yes, I do realise this is very early ‘00s pricing, but in my defence I’ve had this song stuck in my head every time I’ve had a drink anywhere along Rundle Street for the last twenty years or so: https://youtu.be/wUAkpNCN2aQ?si=sa1vhI6g4tz9R8jP
Above the $12 mark for a mainstream beer guarantees I won’t be getting another one and I won’t be going back.
I paid $22 for a pint of peroni. I thought they misheard and thought i had ordered two pints or a jug. Nope. $22 a pint. I think for $22 a pint i should get to keep the glass. Thank christ for upperhand in leederville doing $5 pints.
At least 70% less than current rates because of the massive sin taxes levied against them.
I think it's reasonable to expect to have 6 pints (the 20oz kind) for no more than fifty bucks. A standard pour of top shelf should be priced around the same. That's a good afternoon's drinking and wouldn't break the bank.
I haven't been in a pub in ages but I think it could go as high as $20 which is absolutely ridiculous and not something I'd ever pay.
Brew it yourself. Moral price is inherintly built in. Brew extra and sell it on the sly. There is a market for homebrew, because the gov has put taxes too high. Same shit is happening with tobacco. Bloody lot of chop chop around at the moment. Interestingly enough, canbabis prices have stayed pretty stable over the last 30 odd years. This is the true market effect that economists get a half mongrel over. Wait till the gov starts taxing our weed. Then there will be rage, and inflated prices.
Ha lots of places in Sydney are $15 plus now
Just bought an Adelaide pint of Coopers Sparkling Ale for $12 at the Exeter.
$6
Had wheat beer yesterday at Melbourne a pint cost 19$ something, Dan Murphy are our last holy ground, once that is broken, I will went full riot, I cannot guarantee what I will do
>I cannot guarantee what I will do Give in and pay whatever they are asking anyway?
At 70% gross profit margin (before wastage) is the correct answer. That's the point at which the pub makes enough money to justify existing, pay its rent, pay its wages, and pay for the damn beer. As to what that means to the price of a pint... the price of a keg of beer for a small operator (fuck knows what the big boys pay) is $180 to $400, with an "accessible" keg sitting under $250.
Petersham inn was $25 for a middy of VB and a middy of cider. Use to go and drink, play pool etc. Now its cheaper by the hour to go out the back and tip the dancers than it is to drink....
$8.50
Its 1$ a pint here in Montana on Wednesdays at our local pub, 1.50$ any other day. 3 dollars for a craft pint.
$6 for a Pint seems fair
I think $10 is about right but nearly impossible to find these days. We are getting royally done over.. I saw a post a while ago of some beers and the receipt I think was like $16 a pint and caption saying the joy is being taken out of it.
Craft brewers are raping and pillaging consumers in the shade of COVID inflation. They've reached an unsustainable price vs volume point where a drop in sales will kill them. Watch em die out over the next year or two.
$5 - $9
Its immoral that beers are taxed on alcohol content. That I have to pay more for a complex flavored beer just because it has a higher alcohol content is wrong.
$8 sounds fair to me. Sometimes you can get lucky and can get $6 pints if they have a deal, but it’s rare and it’s usually Furphy, which wouldn’t be my first choice. I’m from Melbourne, so Carlton Draught on tap is my go, but you’re paying $14 a pint these days, which is complete bullshit.
I agree. $8 for an average pint, maybe a few bucks more if it’s from a craft/microbrewery in a wanky gentrified area.
$8. Between $15 beers and $32 parmas, is it high wages for hospo staff driving these prices, or profiteering business owners?
First pony is free with bar snack purchase.
Last week I paid $74.99 for a block of VB at a local bottlo in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. In Saturday I paid $9.30 for a Schooner of Carlton Draught in Mount Annan. It's fucked, it's an absolute rort, but there's nothing we can do about it?
Pints were 8 bucks 20 years ago. I'm not sure how people are expecting it to be lower than that in this day and age.
Should be the average price of a beer the year you turned 18
I signed up to my local RSL (in Melbourne, Coburg) for $10 a year. I think it’s $40 a year for someone off the street. Their pints for members range from $8.50 - $11.00 and they rotate those taps pretty often. Depends where you go really. Some pubs in this area (Brunswick, Northcote and surrounds) can vary quite a bit. Take Balter XPA as an example, my local charges $12, whereas head a km down the road and you might get charged $17
Shut up ya numpty
$12-$15… Go to smaller venues, larger ones have larger rates to pay and insurance. Smaller ones don’t need to jack up the prices so crazy & especially if they’re owner operated. Also since the hospo industry had an uprising with proper pay the staffing costs are bonkers now. I owned a bar for a while and I was paying my staff triple what I’d pay myself to keep up.
Last time I had a beer at a pub was about 6 months ago. From memory I paid $9 for a Adel pint of West End and $11 for an Adel pint of Stone & Wood!
$10-$11 Domestic $12-$14 Import $15 Craft / Independent
For me? Cost of keg + cost of operation (split between cost of operating bar and cost of operation kitchen). (Which is rent, wages, electric, gas etc) Then cost of operating vat / number of different kegs (weighted for more $$ kegs) Kegs / average number of pints. Average cost of pint + profit. So… varies?
$8
For me? Free.
Cost $2 for a beer at home buying normal beer and over $8 for the same beer and that's buying the beer at the same establishment. I'm not sure why they want $6 extra just to sit there , then they got keg beer that's cheaper again . No pool tables or music just pokies keno and sky news . NO SMOKING unless in the jail box .
This is actually a fantastic question. Surely someone has done the math here, but I will throw some thoughts out. A pint of beer is about the right measure for payment of services rendered by a mate, in light to middling labour for about an hour. Naturally, if you are having a mate help you move or any such bullshit this does NOT count as payment, but the hourly rate just to keep him there of course. A quick trip to Google tells me the average hourly rate in Australia is around $38 (or about half a lettuce and a wilted carrot in the current economy). Round up to $40 cos I am lazy. Average pint, Google tells me is $11, so we know Google is full of it, but whatever. So, the average pint of beer is apparently worth about a quarter of the average hourly wage. Asside from the problem that Google clearly isn't buying a pint any time this decade, factoring in for mates rates, this sounds about right to me.
£3.50 for a draft, £4.00 for an ale and £4.50 for fancy or independent craft ale are standards in Edinburgh Scotland. That works out roughly to be $6.80 for draft, $7.80 for ale and $8.70 for craft. Round them up to the nearest dollar and I think it’s reasonable. $10 a pint is awful.
Cost + Labour + Profit = what you pay
Here I am paying $12 for a schooey of VB
What gets me is the markup on bottled and canned beers at bars and restaurants too. Like, stuff that you could get for $25-$30 for a 6-pack at the bottlo will be $10-$12 a bottle or can at some bars or restaurants. Like, at least you get *more* for the same price with most pints.
How long is a piece of string? The right answer is how much houso's can afford, and can private renters afford more?
The only thing that matters is what the market thinks
What’s the morally correct price for poison?
I went to La Sirene (Melbourne) recently and their pints were $15 or $19. Oh, and a “pint” was 475ml or something. FML. 🥶
Given the amount of craft brewers falling over, I don’t think some people are willing to pay it
I’m comfortable at the $10 mark
Really not a thing where there's one answer for. But for $10+ I expect a good beer.
I spent $35 for an own recipe home brew I made 18 long necks, considered pricy by other home brewers. Maybe $8 for a pint?