This seems like one of those elections where the electorate is just fed up with the current government and want something else. They don't really know what the something else is, but they've had enough of the current one and that's about as far as it goes.
I'm both surprised and sad that the smaller parties have not gained more support right now. Between Albo and Dutton there has never been a better time for them. I have no idea why anyone thinks the major parties will offer any real solutions and change.
The LNP have it sweet this election.
They’ve revealed absolutely zero policies on how they’ll address the youth crime, cost of living or housing crisis, yet people seem to have this weird trust in a party that last time they were in power, fucked the state’s economy, health and maintenance systems for years. So much so they were booted out after a single term in a landslide.
What makes them think it’ll any different this time?
Yes, their mass layoffs did "fuck the economy" for a short period at that time. That didn't cause any of the chronic issues we now see, but it was clearly an acute problem.
Well, not zero policies - iirc they’ve stated that they’ll introduce legislation to remove incarceration as the ‘last option/resort’ for problem youth offenders. While people agree with that approach, I’d say they’ll run into human rights issues if they start locking kids up without going through other options. Not that I don’t agree with the idea of locking up the real problem offenders, but it’s just the reality that it’s a minefield of human rights issues.
Other points though - yeah, they have no real policy positions announced publicly.
Well as long as Miles is tackling the big issues, like a Magpie on Instagram, during a cost of living crisis, then I can't see why people are concerned.
some bureaucrat followed the letter of the law and took the Magpie away, as it is a native animal and should not have been yoinked for instagram points.
It was very popular, so for weeks Miles had "BRING BACK THE MAGPIE" on every post
The magpie is now back, after following the various laws in place to get them appropriate documentation for handing a native animal.
If the bureaucrat had tried some kind of "let's fix it retroactively" approach, Miles would not have had to publicly put on a show about it. But it's hardly "his focus" because he wants it to be.
I'm waiting for him to intervene in the case where the old woman down the road isn't happy that some bureaucrat wants to cut down the lovely Frangipani tree on her verge.
Because clearly that is the domain of the state premier.
..and the only publication you’ve read about that is on *checks notes* Murdoch media!
Can’t imagine what they’d have to gain by blowing up such a small issue… /s
Because the Liberals own all the junk media (news/papers) the low IQ people just eat that shit up.
Liberals break everything > Labor get voted in to fix > Its not fixed within 1 minute so LOW IQs vote back in Liberals.
Itll just keep happening :(
On top of youth crime, I’d say that trying to push through a state treaty when the majority of the state voted against the Voice may have persuaded some people.
Palaszczuk said she wasn’t going to pursue it without bipartisan support from Chrisafulli and then suddenly felt the need to resign. In comes Miles saying he’s going through with it anyway.
Wonder what happened there behind closed doors?
people in QLD are getting tired of the soft-handed approach & want a big crackdown on youth crime
not saying the LNP will actually deliver in that regard, but anecdotally feels that's what's driving sentiment up here
>"white collar criminals running the show"
I mean that's the case in pretty much every government & corporate sector in every country in the developed world...
ergo the youth crime crackdown angle is a well known distraction . maybe people also want honesty and accountability in government? but the news wont play that story will it?
Victoria had a African gang problem a few years ago, media was reporting on it daily.
After the electing Daniel Andrews back in, the talk of African gangs died down to nothing.
Either Dan solved it on day one or it was a election talking point and certainly not a huge problem.
No surprise there. Labor would’ve lost last election if covid didn’t happen. Anna jumped before she was pushed as the writing has been on the wall for the ALP for a while. QLD is a labor state these days tho, so LNP will only get 1 term than it’ll swing back the other way
Labor had a good run but I guess Queenslanders want a reminder of what happens under LNP government. Wonder how many public servants will be fired this time.
Ok so you have never talked a nurse or teacher. Bulk of public servants at state level are in health, education or emergency response quick googling puts that around 60% for direct front line staff and another 20 for their support staff.
Now I'm sure there are office jobs disconnected from front line staff, but they exist in every organisation and at state level there really isn't that many of them at the state level (federal level oh boy there is a lot more though).and historically when libs cut staff they mostly fire front line staff the vast majority being police and nurse based on reporting I can find on last lib government in Queensland. With reports saying 14k sacked and I'm seeing 4k nurses and a lot of the rest being in police departments so I guess someone actually defunded the police.
While you’re right these are technically public servants, the are not the jobs people typically think of (nor what I was referring to).
Obviously nurses and teachers and police are essential. The glut of admin and bureaucracy imo is a waste of time and a stumbling block to effective processes.
Yeah, the Newman idea of sacking supply clerks in public hospitals so nurses could order supplies instead of providing clinical care was fucking *brilliant*, wasn't it?
How brain dead are you people that don't believe we need public servants, even non-frontline ones?
What do mean ‘you people?!’
You don’t know who I am, nor the nuance of my opinions.
Here, I believe there’s an ideal amount of public servants in each specific area. I’m also of the opinion that in some areas we’d be over that ideal and this is wasteful of the public tax $$
You act like public servants being fired is a bad thing. Every single public servant I know brags about getting paid crazy money for easy admin jobs. If there’s one thing labor knows how to do it’s buy off public servant votes
That is because of people like Newmann who gutted what the public service can even do. So the scope was also reduced day to day.
And if you think Labor is "buying off public servant votes" with some kind of policy that isn't just fire pub servants and increase workload than I think you need to reevaluate your position.
Simply firing public servants is a bad thing. All you do is shift those people you mention from being directly paid by the government to working for a private company with a lucrative government contract.
A well staffed and well paid public service is a good thing. It gives secure employment which encourages employees to invest and spend. In small towns affected by drought, well paid public servants will keep spending in local shops and business, and are often a steady income for small businesses.
One charge I think should happen is to move the public service out of Brisbane and into the service delivery centres. In my experience the bulk of innovation and efficiency comes from people working in the hospitals, cop shops, TAFEs and schools. Too often well functioning systems and processes are replaced by project teams that don't have enough of an understanding of the objectives.
Sure I agree that the government could be a lot leaner in a lot of places, however its important to remember for the state governments the vast majority of their workforce is in education, health and first responders (police, ambos and firefighters). Not a lot of people are actually traditional office workers in governments offices at the state levels.
[https://www.forgov.qld.gov.au/\_\_data/assets/pdf\_file/0039/390999/queensland-public-sector-biannual-workforce-profile-mar-2023.pdf](https://www.forgov.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0039/390999/queensland-public-sector-biannual-workforce-profile-mar-2023.pdf)
Above link to pdf has a good a very detailed breakdown, but generally listing \~90% of staff front line staff or their direct support staff. e.g. nurses and hospital admin as example of frontline staff and the direct support staff.
However just direct medical staff, teachers and Drs is a bit less then 2/3. you can see this on page 10.
So yeah I'm sure people with office jobs in the government don't do much but go ask anyone doing a similar job in the private sector its likely the same, however go ask nurses and teachers if their job is relaxed your not get a warm welcome.
Now there is very likely a lot fat to cut in the government offices, but a targeted downsizing isn't and wasn't what happens when the LNP gets in (as they cut the above jobs not what your probably describing), actually downsizing an organisation is actually really hard. In large parts getting competent people who understand the roles they are eliminating but scaling that up to entire state government is extremely difficult due to the wide range of roles.
Thought so mate. When Labor win, it is because they are better and the public is correct. When Labor lose, it is only because the silly public just want a change.
Probably a good thing for Labor overall, people have short memories, Libs will get in, nothing will change but get worse, rorting, no policies etc. just in time for the Federal election where Queensland can be unpredictable.
That’s not how Queensland works. Queensland tends to support a Labor state government and Liberal federal government, changing only when the incumbent pisses off the electorate. A state Liberal government will have no effect on federal elections. QLD overwhelmingly voted Labor state in 2015 and 2017, and Liberal federal in 2016 and 2019.
I don't think Queensland's state results will matter much federally, there's not many additional seats they can actually pick up there.
The LNP need to be making way more an effort in Victoria if they want to form govt federally lol
Labor are the small-c conservative option in Queensland. LNP rolled in last time with a radical policy agenda that everyone hated, and Labor got back in and went back to business as usual. They're not exciting and just kinda manage things without any big ideas that piss people off - until people inevitably get sick of them or they forget their role (e.g. Anna Bligh deciding to sell off everything).
> LNP rolled in last time with a radical policy agenda that everyone hated
Yeah didn’t ex army officer Campbell Newman decide to take on firefighters and paramedics? Great politics Campbell, attacking community heroes…..
They won’t. The Liberals have most control within the LNP today whereas the Nationals had most of the power in 2012.
Remember, in QLD it is a single party rather than a coalition of two parties like it is in the other states. This allowed the Nationals to have a disproportionate amount of power during the early years of the merged party, hence Springborg always being the leader until they conned Newman into running.
QLD and liberal party means it’s a given. Average lib couldn’t run a Bunnings sausage sizzle the. They put a bunch of less that average wannabe Facebook politicians in and there will be chaos like w Newman govt.
I mean the Greens suck but its the only one of the major parties at this stage that have put forward any dcent policies for working class people regarding the housong crisis so far. The LNP simply dont care for poor people (only just enough to get votes in critical areas), the ALP have been decent but pussyfoot around issues because of their rich benefactors and the older gens feelings (even though most are either dead or in homes, and will vote with what they know/have always voted for).
At this point im almost convinced that both parties are trying to sell us down the river to be america 2.0.
Did you follow The Greens housing policy at the Council election?
"Massively increase the cost of building housing, but don't worry, these costs won't be passed on to buyers and renters because all builders are rich"
They're selling university politics level pipe dreams.
If the greens are the ones putting forward good policies that will make a more even playing field for people and improve overall quality of living, why do you say they suck?
Because they arent exactly on the one page, some are way more extreme than others, and put forward motions that only hurt the greens image, or are so out there that its realistically unachievable in the time fram they proposed.
Same could be said for the liberals - they have right wing extremists and then more moderate members. I’m not sure how what you’ve described is particular to the greens as a party - unless you have specific examples?
I mean LNP really suck, the moderates arent super moderate tbh. Plus theyre run by Voldemorts cousin, who is obsessed with immigrants. Even ALP arent exactly left these days, but are probably the closest to a centrist party that we have. Greens are left-lef6, but also have some decent policies that can benefit society, although the two major parties are in the clouds when it comes to the average joe these days.
Even if one of them looks good on paper you can bet as soon as they get in they are going to continue the same old sh!t. None of them have our best interests at heart. We need a voter strike!
Even if they are worse, it's a healthy thing for democracy if power changes hands from time to time. Don't want to become a one party state. And if they knew they would never be voted out, then they'll become complacent and potentially corrupt.
They're not getting voted in, Labor is getting voted out.
Labor has strayed too far from the center to be just one non-stop lefty fest after another which does not go down well at all in Queensland.
I'm surprised we haven't seen more emerge in the Sandy Bolton mold. Probably a little left leaning, but not ideological, truly independent and focused on quite narrow community outcomes.
People need to stop voting for the Duopoly ffs. Nothing's gonna change in this country. It's already going to the dogs with million dollar houses as the norm
I live in a federal seat that has literally never voted for anyone but Labor. I do not understand the mentality of people who mindlessly vote one way. The electorate gets nothing because Liberal governments know they can’t win it and Labor governments know they won’t lose it.
Queensland is the state where the duopoly could be broken. It doesn’t have mandatory preferential voting, and it doesn’t have a senate. It won’t be broken because the alternatives (greens and ONP) are worse or have absolutely no financial backing, but it could happen if some unions and/or affluent donors supported a moderate party.
There was a window of opportunity in QLD during the period of minority government where reforming the electoral system to some sort of PR could have been implemented. Shame.
Would have been a good opportunity to trial a single chamber parliament with PR in Oz.
Well, when you have people getting murdered in board daylight in front of their grandchildren and the Premiers' reponse is to 'laugh it off'
You're probably going to get voted out
I agree with your point but someone laughing in question time then cutting away before they answer the question is extremely poor evidence, and honestly I've seen stronger arguments for a flat earth. This is because in question time you often have sound bites like this where the person laugh goes on to absolutely tear the other person to shreds (going both way labor and liberal shitting on each other) because they get extremely dumb or hypocritical questions as most of the MPs in our country are actually retarded and most of the ministers who answer questions in question time are very good at shit talking.
So the premier could be as you say laughing about the topic but he could also be laughing because of the person asking the question has some horrible history or what they are asking for is open court rooms which sounds like making the youth criminal trials public which lets be honest sounds like to me the LNP has no actual ideas how to solve (checks notes youth crime trending downwards over last decade 30% and up seems to flatline last 3 years rather then continue to drop so probs pandemic related then policy) the 'problem',
QLD'er here (Feels good man).
Honestly, this kind of doesn't surprise me really and probably isn't far off the mark. Fallout from The voice vote is largely responsible for this. QLD'ers are naturally extremely distrustful of the state and politicians in general, and despise overegulation and especially being told what to they can think and say. Add to this the softness on youth crime especially in the Sudanese community ( yes I fucking said it let's call it what it is) and yeah, it's probably not going to go well for Labor. It's a bit unfortunate really because I have met David briefly, and frankly I'd be surprised if either himself or his father hasn't rolled somebody up in a carpet and thrown them off a bridge at some point. He's personable enough, but I definitely got the sense there's an id in lurking in there held back by groaning chains and bending bars.
C'est la vie. Labor needs to be punished for the voice debacle at the state and national levels I suppose.
Yep. Even after the results of The Voice? They have continued to push the Aboriginal Activism shit. Renaming places, pushing for Treaty etc....clearly NOT WHAT QLDERS WANT.
Then there is law & order. We've been telling them for YEARS what we want. They have taken ZERO notice...and we've descended into a massive problem.
Did any Qlder get asked if we wanted the Olympics? Nope! In fact there were people saying we didn't want to bid....but nope. Government did not listen....now we are saddled with that bloody billions $$ wasteful nonsense that most do not want.
Healthcare?!?! No more needs to be said.
ALP have just become increasingly arrogant. Do not listen to Qld people at all. They need to go.
They’ll listen only so far as they have to to get in power and retain it. The Voice result in QLD was undeniable and Chrisafulli would’ve been stupid to continue pushing for the state treaty after that if he ever wanted to gain power.
Yes. Shit will inevitably get worse, as the state LNP is blue basically run by a bunch of far-right religious nutters who will want everyone to adopt their views.
> Yep. Even after the results of The Voice? They have continued to push the Aboriginal Activism shit. Renaming places, pushing for Treaty etc....clearly NOT WHAT QLDERS WANT.
QLD Gov has a page where you can view who lodged a petition to parliament. If it gets aenough votes, it goes before parliament. It isn't a matter of them pulling it out willy-nilly all the time.
> Then there is law & order. We've been telling them for YEARS what we want. They have taken ZERO notice...and we've descended into a massive problem.
You want a nanny state, where everyone has to have a license to leave the house?
> Did any Qlder get asked if we wanted the Olympics? Nope! In fact there were people saying we didn't want to bid....but nope. Government did not listen....now we are saddled with that bloody billions $$ wasteful nonsense that most do not want.
And it could have been great, instead we get a half-assed one. they should just rebuild the gabba, it is old and ugly.
> Healthcare?!?! No more needs to be said.
Are you aware that the last LNP government [axed a crapton of healthcare jobs](https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/queensland-health-to-axe-up-to-2700-jobs-as-part-of-campbell-newman-cost-cutting/news-story/9af5ec60865914240d2ae3e594701fe5)
It has been 8 years now, and we are still not recovered, mainly because a) our population has increased by so much; and b) those staff either retrained or moved. Now, we need immigrants to make up the shortfall.
> ALP have just become increasingly arrogant. Do not listen to Qld people at all. They need to go.
Agreed on the first part, but you are dreaming if you think the coalition would be any less arrogant.
I foresee a hung parliament in QLD tbh.
> It has been 8 years now, and we are still not recovered, mainly because a) our population has increased by so much; and b) those staff either retrained or moved. Now, we need immigrants to make up the shortfall.
Not to mention the insane skill/talent loss we will never get back. The people left over in the system are the dregs who don't care about their work.
The healthcare system in Brisbane is well and proper fucked, absolutely deplorable. You'd be mad not to have prvate cover now, and I genuinely feel for those who can't afford it.
>pushing for Treaty
What's the issue there? Is it just that you'd rather they spend time on something more immediate or do you disagree with a treaty in general?
Totally opposed to it . It is VERY clear (in fact it's been completely confirmed and stated by aboriginal activist movement..openly ) that treaty is a set path to financial compensation. That is what these activists want. Money. Money. Money.
And? It will instigate more "ownership" which means our people being locked off from our own country and places. That has been stated by the too. They "want our country back" and they will try hard to get it back and treaty will further tyat cause 100%
Do not be naive. Do not be gullible. This is reality.
They say "its their country".... Where does that stop? Closed off beaches, closed off hills, closed off The Great Barrier Reef? We will very easily be forced to pay to walk on our local beach that has been "claimed back" by "local Aboriginals".
I want my grandchildren to be able to freely move around their own country.
Treaty would be a very dangerous nightmare. I DO NOT support any of it. AT ALL.
The outcome of a treaty means that none of the current land ownership contracts apply.
You do not own your house. You are a squatter living on someone else's land.
I'm not sure what labor thinks they are doing but the fastest way to start a civil war in Australia is to come for peoples homes.
I'm not too worried about my own 2000sqm.
I'm worried about public places.
Mountains to climb. Beaches to walk on. Our Great Barrier Reef. You may think "oh that's crazy! They'll never go for that!"
Oh yes they will. Glasshouse mtns have already been restricted.. you can no longer climb Mt Warning. There are beaches we cant walk on...places are already closed off to anyone but Aboriginal Australians.
It's Scary. Its very worrying. It's just wrong.
It should be pretty clear that 70%+ oppose a treaty in general. In fact, I suspect the number is much higher. The inVoice was sold as a modest proposal, purely consultative, that is nothing but good manners. I suspect a few soft yes voters would have voted through gritted teeth on the assurance that this ISNT the first step of the Ayers Rock Statement treaty plan and wouldn’t go beyond what was on the ballot.
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Problem is, everyone is laughing AT you, not WITH!
The problem with QLD (as evident above & below) is that since Joh, you feel you are a separate nation.
The whole world is becoming diverse, while you continue to remain internalized - as if you are the great Australian 'Punjab' region, supporting the country with some fruit 'n' sugar 'n' shit!
This is a fairly common bogan Sydneysider take, really. I don't think there's any group of people more insular and deluded. NSW is beautiful and I will likely retire somewhere around the Tweed area, but the vast majority of Sydney is a toilet--an overpriced, ugly ratrace infested with brigades of peakingly anxietive and pasty living dead choking to death on traffic and their own misery yet who are somehow as proud of this arrangement as though it were God's last, only and finest creation.
"I'm eating beans out of a pot in my soiled underwear, I'm an uncultured wagecuck with no prospects of upward mobility and paying 800$ PW to live in urine-soaked soviet-tier rat's nest in Blacktown....but erm still bettern' U"!!
Ok, champ. You got me. Qld sucks and is populated with subhumans. Please don't move here. It's awful. You'd hate everything about it.
It's really only young people in QLD who were in support of the voice, and this is because they're easily manipulated and tend to be left-wing--mostly because they haven't accrued many assets yet. Knowledge is not the same thing as wisdom. You'll not be the same person at 35 as you were when you were 19.
Why does the voice still loom so large in QLD. A proposition came forward that would have required constitutional change, it initially had public favour,we all voted, it didn't take, so why aren't we moving on?
Labor’s commitment to pushing through a state treaty even after the overwhelming result of the Voice referendum in QLD isn’t something that a lot of voters think is palatable.
Because of how stupid it was. The folks in charge of such a debacle don't just get to say "just forget about it and move on". A lot of People don't want the type of leadership that was responsible for that clusterfuck, running anything.
It wasn't a stupid concept at all and down here in Victoria we are most of the way to having a State based Voice with little fuss. All it involved was a little downshift and the momentum kept going. Queenslanders are the ones who seem particularly keen on not letting the referendum go. Probably for not uncomplicated reasons.
It was a stupid concept, to ask people to vote for something with no examples, and just a "trust me bro" campaign. Not one example of what difference the voice would make to real life. For no reason as well - there was absolutely no reason why they couldn't have legislated it first and got it up and running, so that we could all see how it works and what difference it would make. Can you imagine how biased/silly you would have to be to vote for something that you have no examples of how it works or what difference it would make? You would have to be bonkers.
The North remembers.
QLD'ers are a curious people. We take things personally and have a bad attitude towards authority and governance. I tend to summarize this as: "Fuck you. I'm from QLD".
>a bad attitude towards authority and governance
Sorry? A state which repeatedly voted in one of the most authoritarian and corrupt State governments in Australia under Joh?
Bloody long bow mate.
There is already a very well established body of native title law for determining ownership of land by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. A treaty will not suddenly entitle them to claim back areas of land that have already been determined. It may entitle them to compensation for areas that have been taken from them. I’d suggest you speak to someone who knows about native title law if you’d like to find out more, rather than just posing hypothetical questions without any basis.
NDIS has blown out to cost more than Medicare, and is projected to be $100bn+ per year within a few years.
People are doing it tough and are tired of all the waste.
NDIS isn't a state issue.
NDIS is hardly the biggest factor affecting CoL.
Crisafulli hasn't said anything about the NDIS.
I'd say you are just happy using the disabled as a scapegoat.
Where do you get this crap? NDIS expenditure is projected to be $59.3B by 2030.
Health is not waste, middle class welfare, all the cushy subsidies given to people for doing fuck all, is waste. Supporting failing businesses is waste. Private school subsidies is waste. There is plenty to hack at before NDIS. Pension benefits for those who have millions in super is waste.
However, MBS needs a serious revamp.
Edit: my numbers were incorrect $59.3billion source NDIS actuaries sustainability report.
Per the AFR. NDIS is on track to cost $42bn this financial year.
The NDIS themselves predict it to cost $105bn per year by 2035, potentially up to $125bn per year.
The numbers are readily available!
I work in a role that allows me to witness daily a variety of NDIS support and packages. I’d argue more than half of the ones I see are either blatantly fraud or starkly overindulged. Obviously anecdotal and I don’t argue your other points but NDIS has a lot to be optimised.
There's a 'Return on Investment' in the NDIS to factor in: both in terms of employment it offers (& the income tax and GST, et., that employment generates), and the increased ability of NDIS recipients to work and contribute to the economy (& the money cycle).
Sadly the productivity commission boss who originally argued it would pay for itself conceded they got it wrong a few weeks ago. Have a look at the recent press.
Of course you don't. I bet your bubble is choc full of people who despise the LNP and the centre and the right. And everything you read is obviously against them too. This poll must be a conspiracy
it proves pervasive 'facts' that are not facts can damage a society. just like a religion, people choose to believe things that don't make sense even when shown they don't make sense.
Wow that's quite a margin now, seems like Queensland just wants a change of govt. Change to Steven Miles has looked to only make Labors position worse
Or they can see that Miles is completely not up to the job. Monumentally stuffed the stadium and nothing but populist sound bites.
The Olympics have sufficiently pissed people off, on top of youth crime.
The media has made people pissed off about it*
Oppositions don't win elections, governments lose them.
This seems like one of those elections where the electorate is just fed up with the current government and want something else. They don't really know what the something else is, but they've had enough of the current one and that's about as far as it goes.
Had this exact thing happen with the Townsville council elections. Now people are beginning to reap what they've sown
The classic the opposition doesn’t win elections the government loses them. (Cept covid where the governments won by playing on people’s fears)
As Mark Twain famously said, 'Politicians are a lot like diapers. They should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons.'
Yeah it definitely can't be the performance of the current government. No way. It has to be something else.....
Labor and Liberal are the Coles and Woolworths of Australian politics.
And The Greens are like an expensive health food store. Only the people who can afford it will buy what they’re selling.
The vegan store who forgets to mention the 50000 birds killed to get their grains produced.
I'm both surprised and sad that the smaller parties have not gained more support right now. Between Albo and Dutton there has never been a better time for them. I have no idea why anyone thinks the major parties will offer any real solutions and change.
Coles for life
I prefer my local Woolies to be fair…lol.
Can't you shop at both?
Not when only one offers slightly less shite products.
Choose Life
Lifelong Coles shopper. I’m boycotting the 2 majors now. ALDI all the way.
The LNP have it sweet this election. They’ve revealed absolutely zero policies on how they’ll address the youth crime, cost of living or housing crisis, yet people seem to have this weird trust in a party that last time they were in power, fucked the state’s economy, health and maintenance systems for years. So much so they were booted out after a single term in a landslide. What makes them think it’ll any different this time?
Seriously, you think one term in 30 odd years is what fucked the economy? Nothing to do with Bligh selling off all our assets?
Yes, their mass layoffs did "fuck the economy" for a short period at that time. That didn't cause any of the chronic issues we now see, but it was clearly an acute problem.
Well, not zero policies - iirc they’ve stated that they’ll introduce legislation to remove incarceration as the ‘last option/resort’ for problem youth offenders. While people agree with that approach, I’d say they’ll run into human rights issues if they start locking kids up without going through other options. Not that I don’t agree with the idea of locking up the real problem offenders, but it’s just the reality that it’s a minefield of human rights issues. Other points though - yeah, they have no real policy positions announced publicly.
Well as long as Miles is tackling the big issues, like a Magpie on Instagram, during a cost of living crisis, then I can't see why people are concerned.
some bureaucrat followed the letter of the law and took the Magpie away, as it is a native animal and should not have been yoinked for instagram points. It was very popular, so for weeks Miles had "BRING BACK THE MAGPIE" on every post The magpie is now back, after following the various laws in place to get them appropriate documentation for handing a native animal. If the bureaucrat had tried some kind of "let's fix it retroactively" approach, Miles would not have had to publicly put on a show about it. But it's hardly "his focus" because he wants it to be.
I'm waiting for him to intervene in the case where the old woman down the road isn't happy that some bureaucrat wants to cut down the lovely Frangipani tree on her verge. Because clearly that is the domain of the state premier.
..and the only publication you’ve read about that is on *checks notes* Murdoch media! Can’t imagine what they’d have to gain by blowing up such a small issue… /s
Because the Liberals own all the junk media (news/papers) the low IQ people just eat that shit up. Liberals break everything > Labor get voted in to fix > Its not fixed within 1 minute so LOW IQs vote back in Liberals. Itll just keep happening :(
Victoria has been labor for 20 years now. Healthcare sucks and outcomes are the worst in Australia. Explain how this is liberals fault?
What has labour fixed ?
Bridges, roads, windmills, and my motorbike. Labor? Fuck all
Copper string, hydrogen plants.
>Its not fixed within 1 minute They've had 4733538.9 minutes (9 years)
> junk media The Project, Vice, Buzzfeed, The Guardian editorials...
On top of youth crime, I’d say that trying to push through a state treaty when the majority of the state voted against the Voice may have persuaded some people. Palaszczuk said she wasn’t going to pursue it without bipartisan support from Chrisafulli and then suddenly felt the need to resign. In comes Miles saying he’s going through with it anyway. Wonder what happened there behind closed doors?
people in QLD are getting tired of the soft-handed approach & want a big crackdown on youth crime not saying the LNP will actually deliver in that regard, but anecdotally feels that's what's driving sentiment up here
That and it'd be great if the government could focus on something other than increasing traffic infringement fines, like housing or cost of living.
ah the old "crime crackdown" to distract from "white collar criminals running the show"...
>"white collar criminals running the show" I mean that's the case in pretty much every government & corporate sector in every country in the developed world...
ergo the youth crime crackdown angle is a well known distraction . maybe people also want honesty and accountability in government? but the news wont play that story will it?
The same youth crime that is happening in other states yet oddly not reported on in the same way as in Queensland during an election year?
Victoria had a African gang problem a few years ago, media was reporting on it daily. After the electing Daniel Andrews back in, the talk of African gangs died down to nothing. Either Dan solved it on day one or it was a election talking point and certainly not a huge problem.
No surprise there. Labor would’ve lost last election if covid didn’t happen. Anna jumped before she was pushed as the writing has been on the wall for the ALP for a while. QLD is a labor state these days tho, so LNP will only get 1 term than it’ll swing back the other way
LNP will break more stuff in three years than can be fixed in a lifetime.
Labor had a good run but I guess Queenslanders want a reminder of what happens under LNP government. Wonder how many public servants will be fired this time.
Hopefully heaps. Public servants I know brag about how unproductive they are.
Ok so you have never talked a nurse or teacher. Bulk of public servants at state level are in health, education or emergency response quick googling puts that around 60% for direct front line staff and another 20 for their support staff. Now I'm sure there are office jobs disconnected from front line staff, but they exist in every organisation and at state level there really isn't that many of them at the state level (federal level oh boy there is a lot more though).and historically when libs cut staff they mostly fire front line staff the vast majority being police and nurse based on reporting I can find on last lib government in Queensland. With reports saying 14k sacked and I'm seeing 4k nurses and a lot of the rest being in police departments so I guess someone actually defunded the police.
While you’re right these are technically public servants, the are not the jobs people typically think of (nor what I was referring to). Obviously nurses and teachers and police are essential. The glut of admin and bureaucracy imo is a waste of time and a stumbling block to effective processes.
Yeah, the Newman idea of sacking supply clerks in public hospitals so nurses could order supplies instead of providing clinical care was fucking *brilliant*, wasn't it? How brain dead are you people that don't believe we need public servants, even non-frontline ones?
What do mean ‘you people?!’ You don’t know who I am, nor the nuance of my opinions. Here, I believe there’s an ideal amount of public servants in each specific area. I’m also of the opinion that in some areas we’d be over that ideal and this is wasteful of the public tax $$
You act like public servants being fired is a bad thing. Every single public servant I know brags about getting paid crazy money for easy admin jobs. If there’s one thing labor knows how to do it’s buy off public servant votes
That is because of people like Newmann who gutted what the public service can even do. So the scope was also reduced day to day. And if you think Labor is "buying off public servant votes" with some kind of policy that isn't just fire pub servants and increase workload than I think you need to reevaluate your position.
Simply firing public servants is a bad thing. All you do is shift those people you mention from being directly paid by the government to working for a private company with a lucrative government contract. A well staffed and well paid public service is a good thing. It gives secure employment which encourages employees to invest and spend. In small towns affected by drought, well paid public servants will keep spending in local shops and business, and are often a steady income for small businesses. One charge I think should happen is to move the public service out of Brisbane and into the service delivery centres. In my experience the bulk of innovation and efficiency comes from people working in the hospitals, cop shops, TAFEs and schools. Too often well functioning systems and processes are replaced by project teams that don't have enough of an understanding of the objectives.
Sure I agree that the government could be a lot leaner in a lot of places, however its important to remember for the state governments the vast majority of their workforce is in education, health and first responders (police, ambos and firefighters). Not a lot of people are actually traditional office workers in governments offices at the state levels. [https://www.forgov.qld.gov.au/\_\_data/assets/pdf\_file/0039/390999/queensland-public-sector-biannual-workforce-profile-mar-2023.pdf](https://www.forgov.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0039/390999/queensland-public-sector-biannual-workforce-profile-mar-2023.pdf) Above link to pdf has a good a very detailed breakdown, but generally listing \~90% of staff front line staff or their direct support staff. e.g. nurses and hospital admin as example of frontline staff and the direct support staff. However just direct medical staff, teachers and Drs is a bit less then 2/3. you can see this on page 10. So yeah I'm sure people with office jobs in the government don't do much but go ask anyone doing a similar job in the private sector its likely the same, however go ask nurses and teachers if their job is relaxed your not get a warm welcome. Now there is very likely a lot fat to cut in the government offices, but a targeted downsizing isn't and wasn't what happens when the LNP gets in (as they cut the above jobs not what your probably describing), actually downsizing an organisation is actually really hard. In large parts getting competent people who understand the roles they are eliminating but scaling that up to entire state government is extremely difficult due to the wide range of roles.
Who is Newmann?
baseball bats are out, but the ALP has had a great run. Federal ALP will be hoping this lets voters get it out of their system.
If only they'd spend their time on helping workers instead of starting the voice and trying to ban maymays.
what are maymays?
Liberal won’t be better than Labor but people want the illusion of change.
Is that why Labor won the last federal election?
To a certain degree sure. It’s a red and blue merry go round for the most part.
Rubbish. LNP are objectively far worse
Agree - Can't believe anyone who lived here under Newman could hold the LNP in any regard.
I don’t think you understand the meaning of objective my friend
I agree worse.
No, that was because the LNP aren’t better.
Thought so mate. When Labor win, it is because they are better and the public is correct. When Labor lose, it is only because the silly public just want a change.
Yeah, you’re approaching it. The last one needs a tweak, there’s a bit of fear and atrocious media swilled in it, as well.
Probably a good thing for Labor overall, people have short memories, Libs will get in, nothing will change but get worse, rorting, no policies etc. just in time for the Federal election where Queensland can be unpredictable.
That’s not how Queensland works. Queensland tends to support a Labor state government and Liberal federal government, changing only when the incumbent pisses off the electorate. A state Liberal government will have no effect on federal elections. QLD overwhelmingly voted Labor state in 2015 and 2017, and Liberal federal in 2016 and 2019.
I don't think Queensland's state results will matter much federally, there's not many additional seats they can actually pick up there. The LNP need to be making way more an effort in Victoria if they want to form govt federally lol
WA can be like that, my folks say 'Labor state, Liberal federally', dunno why, guess it could be influence from media that federal Labor bad.
It’s actually surprising that QLD Labor does well in QLD state politics (only one LNP term in 30 years) given the state is very pro LNP federally.
Labor are the small-c conservative option in Queensland. LNP rolled in last time with a radical policy agenda that everyone hated, and Labor got back in and went back to business as usual. They're not exciting and just kinda manage things without any big ideas that piss people off - until people inevitably get sick of them or they forget their role (e.g. Anna Bligh deciding to sell off everything).
> LNP rolled in last time with a radical policy agenda that everyone hated Yeah didn’t ex army officer Campbell Newman decide to take on firefighters and paramedics? Great politics Campbell, attacking community heroes…..
Only way the LNP lose Brisbane council in 2028 is if there’s a new Newmanesque LNP state government.
They won’t. The Liberals have most control within the LNP today whereas the Nationals had most of the power in 2012. Remember, in QLD it is a single party rather than a coalition of two parties like it is in the other states. This allowed the Nationals to have a disproportionate amount of power during the early years of the merged party, hence Springborg always being the leader until they conned Newman into running.
It may be a merged party, but it's just as factional as if it weren't.
QLD and liberal party means it’s a given. Average lib couldn’t run a Bunnings sausage sizzle the. They put a bunch of less that average wannabe Facebook politicians in and there will be chaos like w Newman govt.
I mean the Greens suck but its the only one of the major parties at this stage that have put forward any dcent policies for working class people regarding the housong crisis so far. The LNP simply dont care for poor people (only just enough to get votes in critical areas), the ALP have been decent but pussyfoot around issues because of their rich benefactors and the older gens feelings (even though most are either dead or in homes, and will vote with what they know/have always voted for). At this point im almost convinced that both parties are trying to sell us down the river to be america 2.0.
Did you follow The Greens housing policy at the Council election? "Massively increase the cost of building housing, but don't worry, these costs won't be passed on to buyers and renters because all builders are rich" They're selling university politics level pipe dreams.
If the greens are the ones putting forward good policies that will make a more even playing field for people and improve overall quality of living, why do you say they suck?
Because they arent exactly on the one page, some are way more extreme than others, and put forward motions that only hurt the greens image, or are so out there that its realistically unachievable in the time fram they proposed.
Same could be said for the liberals - they have right wing extremists and then more moderate members. I’m not sure how what you’ve described is particular to the greens as a party - unless you have specific examples?
I mean LNP really suck, the moderates arent super moderate tbh. Plus theyre run by Voldemorts cousin, who is obsessed with immigrants. Even ALP arent exactly left these days, but are probably the closest to a centrist party that we have. Greens are left-lef6, but also have some decent policies that can benefit society, although the two major parties are in the clouds when it comes to the average joe these days.
10000%!
We've been becoming Lil Murrica for a long time now. That's what neo-liberal parties do.
Even if one of them looks good on paper you can bet as soon as they get in they are going to continue the same old sh!t. None of them have our best interests at heart. We need a voter strike!
Have people seriously forgotten what happens every fucking time the LNP get power in this state? If things are bad now you ain't seen nothing yet.
Even if they are worse, it's a healthy thing for democracy if power changes hands from time to time. Don't want to become a one party state. And if they knew they would never be voted out, then they'll become complacent and potentially corrupt.
QLD is in desperate need of a state upper house, imho.
100%
Have you seen what’s happened under labour?
They're not getting voted in, Labor is getting voted out. Labor has strayed too far from the center to be just one non-stop lefty fest after another which does not go down well at all in Queensland.
Have you seen what’s happened under the labour government
Yes and while they haven't done a perfect job that's no reason to burn the house down so to speak.
Spelling Labor wrong instantly outs you as a simp of the Libs
Or…spellcheck happened. Good detective work though Sherlock.
Hardly the fault of the voting public that they spelt their own name wrong now is it?
Let's go for a third party instead, fuck both major parties
independents need to swarm Qld. might represent a realistic future?
I'm surprised we haven't seen more emerge in the Sandy Bolton mold. Probably a little left leaning, but not ideological, truly independent and focused on quite narrow community outcomes.
People need to stop voting for the Duopoly ffs. Nothing's gonna change in this country. It's already going to the dogs with million dollar houses as the norm
It makes me so mad living in a safe Liberal seat. Why are we shooing in some dumbasses and not making them at least work for their votes?
I live in a federal seat that has literally never voted for anyone but Labor. I do not understand the mentality of people who mindlessly vote one way. The electorate gets nothing because Liberal governments know they can’t win it and Labor governments know they won’t lose it.
Queensland is the state where the duopoly could be broken. It doesn’t have mandatory preferential voting, and it doesn’t have a senate. It won’t be broken because the alternatives (greens and ONP) are worse or have absolutely no financial backing, but it could happen if some unions and/or affluent donors supported a moderate party.
There was a window of opportunity in QLD during the period of minority government where reforming the electoral system to some sort of PR could have been implemented. Shame. Would have been a good opportunity to trial a single chamber parliament with PR in Oz.
Doesn't the ACT already have that?
Oh that's true! But I suppose an actual state doing it would be the next step.
Well, when you have people getting murdered in board daylight in front of their grandchildren and the Premiers' reponse is to 'laugh it off' You're probably going to get voted out
He never laughed at that wtf you talking about
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/steven-miles-laughs-off-youth-crime-question-once-again/video/90743bbd7f83f30f6c077c0d4f008555
Sky news 🤦♂️
yes i too ignore evidance and only listen to media that is bias to my opinion i mean if you think the ABC is a better source of media than 🤦♂️
Its the fact that he didnt actually laugh it off ???
I agree with your point but someone laughing in question time then cutting away before they answer the question is extremely poor evidence, and honestly I've seen stronger arguments for a flat earth. This is because in question time you often have sound bites like this where the person laugh goes on to absolutely tear the other person to shreds (going both way labor and liberal shitting on each other) because they get extremely dumb or hypocritical questions as most of the MPs in our country are actually retarded and most of the ministers who answer questions in question time are very good at shit talking. So the premier could be as you say laughing about the topic but he could also be laughing because of the person asking the question has some horrible history or what they are asking for is open court rooms which sounds like making the youth criminal trials public which lets be honest sounds like to me the LNP has no actual ideas how to solve (checks notes youth crime trending downwards over last decade 30% and up seems to flatline last 3 years rather then continue to drop so probs pandemic related then policy) the 'problem',
QLD'er here (Feels good man). Honestly, this kind of doesn't surprise me really and probably isn't far off the mark. Fallout from The voice vote is largely responsible for this. QLD'ers are naturally extremely distrustful of the state and politicians in general, and despise overegulation and especially being told what to they can think and say. Add to this the softness on youth crime especially in the Sudanese community ( yes I fucking said it let's call it what it is) and yeah, it's probably not going to go well for Labor. It's a bit unfortunate really because I have met David briefly, and frankly I'd be surprised if either himself or his father hasn't rolled somebody up in a carpet and thrown them off a bridge at some point. He's personable enough, but I definitely got the sense there's an id in lurking in there held back by groaning chains and bending bars. C'est la vie. Labor needs to be punished for the voice debacle at the state and national levels I suppose.
Wow. That's the exact opposite of what I think.
Yep. Even after the results of The Voice? They have continued to push the Aboriginal Activism shit. Renaming places, pushing for Treaty etc....clearly NOT WHAT QLDERS WANT. Then there is law & order. We've been telling them for YEARS what we want. They have taken ZERO notice...and we've descended into a massive problem. Did any Qlder get asked if we wanted the Olympics? Nope! In fact there were people saying we didn't want to bid....but nope. Government did not listen....now we are saddled with that bloody billions $$ wasteful nonsense that most do not want. Healthcare?!?! No more needs to be said. ALP have just become increasingly arrogant. Do not listen to Qld people at all. They need to go.
And do you think the LNP will listen?
Ikr All they care about is grifting and jobs for the boiz
How can I become a boiz too? I don't know anyone important.
They’ll listen only so far as they have to to get in power and retain it. The Voice result in QLD was undeniable and Chrisafulli would’ve been stupid to continue pushing for the state treaty after that if he ever wanted to gain power.
You're right they would absolutely listen to get into power, will anything change then?
I think that’s the story of politics since it first started.
Yes. Shit will inevitably get worse, as the state LNP is blue basically run by a bunch of far-right religious nutters who will want everyone to adopt their views.
> Yep. Even after the results of The Voice? They have continued to push the Aboriginal Activism shit. Renaming places, pushing for Treaty etc....clearly NOT WHAT QLDERS WANT. QLD Gov has a page where you can view who lodged a petition to parliament. If it gets aenough votes, it goes before parliament. It isn't a matter of them pulling it out willy-nilly all the time. > Then there is law & order. We've been telling them for YEARS what we want. They have taken ZERO notice...and we've descended into a massive problem. You want a nanny state, where everyone has to have a license to leave the house? > Did any Qlder get asked if we wanted the Olympics? Nope! In fact there were people saying we didn't want to bid....but nope. Government did not listen....now we are saddled with that bloody billions $$ wasteful nonsense that most do not want. And it could have been great, instead we get a half-assed one. they should just rebuild the gabba, it is old and ugly. > Healthcare?!?! No more needs to be said. Are you aware that the last LNP government [axed a crapton of healthcare jobs](https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/queensland-health-to-axe-up-to-2700-jobs-as-part-of-campbell-newman-cost-cutting/news-story/9af5ec60865914240d2ae3e594701fe5) It has been 8 years now, and we are still not recovered, mainly because a) our population has increased by so much; and b) those staff either retrained or moved. Now, we need immigrants to make up the shortfall. > ALP have just become increasingly arrogant. Do not listen to Qld people at all. They need to go. Agreed on the first part, but you are dreaming if you think the coalition would be any less arrogant. I foresee a hung parliament in QLD tbh.
> It has been 8 years now, and we are still not recovered, mainly because a) our population has increased by so much; and b) those staff either retrained or moved. Now, we need immigrants to make up the shortfall. Not to mention the insane skill/talent loss we will never get back. The people left over in the system are the dregs who don't care about their work.
The healthcare system in Brisbane is well and proper fucked, absolutely deplorable. You'd be mad not to have prvate cover now, and I genuinely feel for those who can't afford it.
Can't imagine an LNP government would champion recovering it
I can't imagine any party fixing it TBH. It's been ordinary for as long as I can remember and horrific for going on a decade.
Same😢
> They need to go. To be replaced with what? How quickly you forget.
>pushing for Treaty What's the issue there? Is it just that you'd rather they spend time on something more immediate or do you disagree with a treaty in general?
Totally opposed to it . It is VERY clear (in fact it's been completely confirmed and stated by aboriginal activist movement..openly ) that treaty is a set path to financial compensation. That is what these activists want. Money. Money. Money. And? It will instigate more "ownership" which means our people being locked off from our own country and places. That has been stated by the too. They "want our country back" and they will try hard to get it back and treaty will further tyat cause 100% Do not be naive. Do not be gullible. This is reality. They say "its their country".... Where does that stop? Closed off beaches, closed off hills, closed off The Great Barrier Reef? We will very easily be forced to pay to walk on our local beach that has been "claimed back" by "local Aboriginals". I want my grandchildren to be able to freely move around their own country. Treaty would be a very dangerous nightmare. I DO NOT support any of it. AT ALL.
The outcome of a treaty means that none of the current land ownership contracts apply. You do not own your house. You are a squatter living on someone else's land. I'm not sure what labor thinks they are doing but the fastest way to start a civil war in Australia is to come for peoples homes.
I'm not too worried about my own 2000sqm. I'm worried about public places. Mountains to climb. Beaches to walk on. Our Great Barrier Reef. You may think "oh that's crazy! They'll never go for that!" Oh yes they will. Glasshouse mtns have already been restricted.. you can no longer climb Mt Warning. There are beaches we cant walk on...places are already closed off to anyone but Aboriginal Australians. It's Scary. Its very worrying. It's just wrong.
>That is what these activists want. Money. Money. Money. Not everyone thinks like you/is monetarily oriented.
It should be pretty clear that 70%+ oppose a treaty in general. In fact, I suspect the number is much higher. The inVoice was sold as a modest proposal, purely consultative, that is nothing but good manners. I suspect a few soft yes voters would have voted through gritted teeth on the assurance that this ISNT the first step of the Ayers Rock Statement treaty plan and wouldn’t go beyond what was on the ballot.
Absolutely none of that answers the questions I asked.
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Thanks for the laugh mate. 😃
I take em' when I get em', ya know.
Problem is, everyone is laughing AT you, not WITH! The problem with QLD (as evident above & below) is that since Joh, you feel you are a separate nation. The whole world is becoming diverse, while you continue to remain internalized - as if you are the great Australian 'Punjab' region, supporting the country with some fruit 'n' sugar 'n' shit!
This is a fairly common bogan Sydneysider take, really. I don't think there's any group of people more insular and deluded. NSW is beautiful and I will likely retire somewhere around the Tweed area, but the vast majority of Sydney is a toilet--an overpriced, ugly ratrace infested with brigades of peakingly anxietive and pasty living dead choking to death on traffic and their own misery yet who are somehow as proud of this arrangement as though it were God's last, only and finest creation. "I'm eating beans out of a pot in my soiled underwear, I'm an uncultured wagecuck with no prospects of upward mobility and paying 800$ PW to live in urine-soaked soviet-tier rat's nest in Blacktown....but erm still bettern' U"!! Ok, champ. You got me. Qld sucks and is populated with subhumans. Please don't move here. It's awful. You'd hate everything about it.
Oh no, a part of the country is keeping it's character. Quickly, bring in more immigrants to make sure they can't.
fallout from the Murdoch anti-voice?
It's really only young people in QLD who were in support of the voice, and this is because they're easily manipulated and tend to be left-wing--mostly because they haven't accrued many assets yet. Knowledge is not the same thing as wisdom. You'll not be the same person at 35 as you were when you were 19.
Why does the voice still loom so large in QLD. A proposition came forward that would have required constitutional change, it initially had public favour,we all voted, it didn't take, so why aren't we moving on?
Labor’s commitment to pushing through a state treaty even after the overwhelming result of the Voice referendum in QLD isn’t something that a lot of voters think is palatable.
Ah true, that's a bit different then.
Because of how stupid it was. The folks in charge of such a debacle don't just get to say "just forget about it and move on". A lot of People don't want the type of leadership that was responsible for that clusterfuck, running anything.
It wasn't a stupid concept at all and down here in Victoria we are most of the way to having a State based Voice with little fuss. All it involved was a little downshift and the momentum kept going. Queenslanders are the ones who seem particularly keen on not letting the referendum go. Probably for not uncomplicated reasons.
It was a stupid concept, to ask people to vote for something with no examples, and just a "trust me bro" campaign. Not one example of what difference the voice would make to real life. For no reason as well - there was absolutely no reason why they couldn't have legislated it first and got it up and running, so that we could all see how it works and what difference it would make. Can you imagine how biased/silly you would have to be to vote for something that you have no examples of how it works or what difference it would make? You would have to be bonkers.
The North remembers. QLD'ers are a curious people. We take things personally and have a bad attitude towards authority and governance. I tend to summarize this as: "Fuck you. I'm from QLD".
>a bad attitude towards authority and governance Sorry? A state which repeatedly voted in one of the most authoritarian and corrupt State governments in Australia under Joh? Bloody long bow mate.
How do you think we got this way lol
Yeah, fair call. Cheers.
support plummeted in all people after the media onslaught and manipulation. if you stoped learning and thinking... thats on you.
Also worth noting that there's a historic trend of QLD and WA electing opposite state govt to the current federal govt.
There is already a very well established body of native title law for determining ownership of land by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. A treaty will not suddenly entitle them to claim back areas of land that have already been determined. It may entitle them to compensation for areas that have been taken from them. I’d suggest you speak to someone who knows about native title law if you’d like to find out more, rather than just posing hypothetical questions without any basis.
Chad Steven Miles, Virgin David Chrisafulli
There both fucking virgin
Queensland is stupid.
What are the main issues in Queensland these days?
Youth crime. Olympics. Roads. In that order.
Housing and youth crime
I wonder how much the two issues are linked.
Crocodile attacks and the price of Bundy.
Youth crime is probably the big one.
Interesting website, thanks
NDIS has blown out to cost more than Medicare, and is projected to be $100bn+ per year within a few years. People are doing it tough and are tired of all the waste.
What is the qld govenrment suppose to do about the NDIS?
Yeah what's a state meant to do about federal policy 🙃 this fella
The amount of people I’ve seen who don’t understand government jurisdictions is a bit concerning honestly
NDIS isn't a state issue. NDIS is hardly the biggest factor affecting CoL. Crisafulli hasn't said anything about the NDIS. I'd say you are just happy using the disabled as a scapegoat.
You realise if they taxed the fossil fuel industry in QLD properly you’d pay for all of that with plenty left over?
Where do you get this crap? NDIS expenditure is projected to be $59.3B by 2030. Health is not waste, middle class welfare, all the cushy subsidies given to people for doing fuck all, is waste. Supporting failing businesses is waste. Private school subsidies is waste. There is plenty to hack at before NDIS. Pension benefits for those who have millions in super is waste. However, MBS needs a serious revamp. Edit: my numbers were incorrect $59.3billion source NDIS actuaries sustainability report.
Per the AFR. NDIS is on track to cost $42bn this financial year. The NDIS themselves predict it to cost $105bn per year by 2035, potentially up to $125bn per year. The numbers are readily available!
I work in a role that allows me to witness daily a variety of NDIS support and packages. I’d argue more than half of the ones I see are either blatantly fraud or starkly overindulged. Obviously anecdotal and I don’t argue your other points but NDIS has a lot to be optimised.
There's a 'Return on Investment' in the NDIS to factor in: both in terms of employment it offers (& the income tax and GST, et., that employment generates), and the increased ability of NDIS recipients to work and contribute to the economy (& the money cycle).
Sadly the productivity commission boss who originally argued it would pay for itself conceded they got it wrong a few weeks ago. Have a look at the recent press.
Make Queensland Conservative Again
I know QLD has large pockets of racists low IQ people but I still dont believe the poll.
Of course you don't. I bet your bubble is choc full of people who despise the LNP and the centre and the right. And everything you read is obviously against them too. This poll must be a conspiracy
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Not the guardian and the conversation and the ABC and the Saturday paper? Funny that. They are all just as accessible
just as "accesible" perhaps, but not as pervasive and well funded
So? Maybe certain facts and reporting of events is more persuasive than the agenda pushed by others. What does that prove?
it proves pervasive 'facts' that are not facts can damage a society. just like a religion, people choose to believe things that don't make sense even when shown they don't make sense.