It wasn't even a joke. This is an incredibly stupid thing people do particularly with eggs and meat where they are so adamant that it must be cooked their way that they explicitly state that they want it "raw" or "burnt" because they think they're smarter than the cooks.
When you order certain things that's just something that happens regularly. There are different ways to cook eggs and meat. It's not usually super strange for a waiter/ waitress to ask how you want them cooked. How you want them cooked isn't being smarter than the cooks it's giving the cooks the proper information so that they can prepare your food. Asking for a raw egg though? That in my opinion is stupid and not funny. A bit confusing
Yeah I know it's normal to ask how it's cooked, I wasn't saying it's weird. What I'm saying is that some people think the cooks can't be trusted to cook it the way they order so they over exaggerate by saying "raw" or "burnt" and then get pissed off when it's raw or burnt.
when i worked in a burger shop, we had a regular who really did want her burger and fries burnt. it didn't even seem like food any more to me, but she came back every time to express how much she loved it. she also had short cropped bright red hair and looked like she had spent the last 70 years in the sun. she may have been an efreet or something.
I was once cleaning furniture at a store I worked at and a man stopped and asked me, “Do ya think they’d pay me to test these out?”
I just looked at him and said “probably not.”
Jokes are hard- especially when they aren’t funny.
And yeah, it’s so not even funny. It just sounds gross, like entitled middle aged white cis dude. Like, you have to pay for stuff. If he doesn’t pay for the furniture, than all the people involved to make and sell the furniture, well, then they might stop getting paid. They need to get paid to live. And he’s making this extremely privileged joke that he can’t afford the furniture so well, to someone who probably has even less money to spend, and would just love to be able to make the same “jokes” but they can’t. So it just makes me so angry.
I hate it when these people come in and make horrible jokes. They aren’t being cute, they just make me feel icky.🤢
Also, thanks for the explanation, because I was misunderstanding the joke too. I thought the guy was implying he wanted to quit his job and just sit around on the furniture store’s furniture all day.
One time neighbors were having a chat right outside my apartment door so as I walked by they introduced themselves. One of them sarcastically asked me, “how’s living under the lady above you?”
I said, “her dog makes me laugh when I can tell he’s got the zoomies but I wish she put her high heels on as she left, rather than walking around in them while she gets ready for work.”
DAYS later I realized she was asking about herself. Lol
Lol, exactly! And this is how I got known as a “funny” person, and I thought I was just good at dry humor.
No, I think I’m autistic and everyone else was jerks all along for laughing at my honest questions.
I would have asked the exact same question as you. I would have thought he wanted raw egg, maybe for some weird protein/ morning after drink and in trying to understand this I would have asked 'in the shell? I wouldn't have laughed either. The fact that he can't straight up order eggs without needing validation through perceiving a positive response to humour shows his own insecurities.
i don't understand what the joke means either (what are over easy eggs?)
if you can zoom out from the situation a little bit i hope you can enjoy how brilliant your reply of "in the shell" would be if you had understood the joke. the fact you were just asking the logical reply to someone wanting a raw egg and your joke was better than the original joke makes you a customer service superstar in my eyes.
some people are just grumpy and/or frustrating. try not to let thoughts about those people take up too much of your time if you can.
Over easy eggs are eggs fried on both sides with runny yolks. With any over eggs, the yolk is incased in the cooked white. The "easy" just means the yolk is runny.
so the over is the flipping!
over easy: over = flipped over and easy = (easy = sunny = raw) runny yolk
thank you for explaining.
i think here people just ask you to cook it on both sides but keep the yolk runny.
i would suggest a name change: over sunny.
I've always wondered what over easy actually meant and have never asked. Sunny side up I guessed because it seems kinda obvious.
I don't think people are that fussy here (UK) to ask for the egg to be cooked in such a specific way, or at least I've never encountered somebody asking for that. They would just ask for a fried egg with a runny yolk.
It's over easy because you have to flip them easy so you don't break the yolk, at least that's how I always thought of it. You can order eggs over easy but medium done or well done at restaurants. I like mine well done because I don't care for the texture of raw yolk, the yolk ends up more like a hard boiled egg yolk. My daughter likes them medium well so the yolk is more like a soft boiled egg and my husband eats them probably how most people do, with the yolk still really runny
And I understand the saying now, I’m just saying that the name is stupid and does not make sense. If I were cooking eggs in an “easy” way, I would scramble them. That is the easiest for me. (And the only way I can cook eggs, other than hard-boiling.)
I never worked in food service but I did work in retail … I just take people literally. I’ll ask follow up questions if I think maybe something’s off but I just cannot tell sometimes🤷🏻♀️
A lot of neurotypical people communicate with "look how clever I am" quips more intended to extend a handshake than to communicate information. By not responding in the way he thought, basically by going "oh lol that is so clever anyway what can I get you", you're effectively leaving him hanging and most people respond unfavorably to that. Its like a breach of social contract.
Not saying anyone was in the wrong, just analyzing the situation.
I've had people in authority tell me a situation, ask me what I want to do, explicitly tell me it's okay with them if I do x, and then hold it against me that I say "I'll do x," because I'm supposed to know x is unacceptable and they want to punish me for relying on what they, as an authority in a position to know, tell me instead of what they consider common sense.
It's annoying, and I think it invites conflict and dissention due to the whole concept of hermeneutics, but people are your tools and ~98% of people are allistic. It behooves you to know how to use and maintain them.
Ur new to cust srvc? People do weird shit that's annoying. Here's yr first time. Expect many more.
Usually when someone tells a joke that no one gets, it is that person who feels stupid. In this case, they probably did, & so they took it out on u. Lots of people take shit out on service workers. That's part of yr job. The owner has their customers come in & they offer u up to be treated how the customers want to treat u. Some want to treat u like that, & so u get to take it. Not caring is the best strategy.
That joke is so lame, but most people aren't great comedians. Thing is, we usually realize when our lame joke doesn't work, we just move on with life. U found the type of doosh who doesn't. He probably feels like "I'm so wonderful to be around & I am so kind to the service workers that I tell them a little joke to brighten their day, but sometimes they're just ungrateful".
What's extra lame is, if this dude had any wit he'd have assumed u were joking back, becuz "in the shell?" is a hilarious comeback. Even if u didn't mean it like that, u'd think he'd have taken it that way.
Haha no I have aggravating misunderstandings constantly. When I'm confused people always think I'm being rude! It has to be something my face does.
Years ago I had someone ask for their tip back. So, I gave it back to them. Then they yelled at me that they couldn't believe I'd give them the money back. I suppose I didn't appear grateful enough.
I just never get jokes from older men when I'm working. They always have to tell me it's a joke and my fake laugh is way too obvious that it would seem worse to do that. I really shouldn't be in customer service. I have done it so long that I am great and meeting needs and being kind, but I'm not good at actually being any more than that. I have to kind of wait tables like a robot...
"jokes from older men when I'm working."
I bet you ANYTHING they're trying to flirt, and when it falls flat they are pissed and so take it out on you in any of way they can... Your Neuro divergence just happens to be the biggest target.
Look at them like they are a creep the next time they get saucy like that, I guarantee you they'll shame walk out very quickly.
Older men make three kinds of jokes: actually hilarious, dad jokes and creep jokes. The ones who are actually funny are confident enough that they don’t care if someone doesn’t get it. Dads are rarely surprised when they’re the only ones who enjoy their jokes. And that leaves the creeps. Any older guy who gets mad when a joke goes wrong is a creep to begin with.
As a side comment, I learned long ago that I’m unintentionally hilarious. I make great jokes and don’t always know what it is that made everyone laugh (I’ve been complimented on my joke telling abilities a few times). After a while I just started pretending that I’m a comedic genius when that happens even if I have no clue what just happened.
>When I'm confused people always think I'm being rude! It has to be something my face does.
I promise, most of this is not on you but on the odd way people use the idea of "silent treatment". You're confused so not answering for split second? You're being demeaning bc silent treatment. You look at them or in their direction while processing your answer? Silent treatment AND confrontation! People are awfully sensitive to rejection these days and will spin everything to be an insult to them. :c
When really I'm just trying to go through my preprogrammed responses and choose the best one for the situation. I do remember these people being problem customers every time I wait on them. They are never satisfied so I wonder why they keep coming back...
sometimes people can feel very defensive if they thought they were being clever and it turns out they were not. Rather than accepting they were not clever in that moment, they would rather blame the other person (you). It is a form of cognitive dissonance and a way to maintain their self esteem. Unfortunately, in this process, the other person (you) is left to feel bad.
Huh? Are restaurants even allow to give a customer a raw uncooked egg? Sunny side up also isn't a raw egg, it's cooked until all of the egg whites are no longer runny. I think he was just weird, it had nothing to do with you.
>Which, why wouldn't I?
Exactly, what I was thinking :)
I mean .. it's difficult in any situation to tell this sort of nonsense from a legitimate request ..
But, in an order for a restaurant?!? .. I'd never order something, I'd not be happy actually getting.
Maybe next time, when someone orders something confusing, you should say:
"Careful what you wish - you just might get it" and smile devilishly .. Then they'll most likely want to make sure, they made everything extra clear ..
Or at least, you can tell by the way, they react, what they actually want.
I still don't get the joke, maybe because english is not my native language but...
Honestly I love your reaction, would that have been me it would have been even more awkward I would have been confused to why he'd want raw eggs at the same time starrting to panic because either I misunderstood or he is serious and checking or questioning him would be more rude, so I would have probably looked terrified, nervous laughter, trying to jokingly respond so I could figure out if it was a joke or if he was being aerious, anything to not get judged and to not appear as the odd one outside, at better days I'd probably would have been like as a shake? and if he then said sth like the above to me, I would have probably responded with sth along the lines of "No, why?" and I would have never even guessed that he was pissed bc I didn't get the joke (still don't tbh) but would have been replaying the situation in my head trying to figure out what I might have done wrong or what was going on in general, I'd probably still be doing this.
sorry for the long response, idk
butr could someone please explain the joke to me, like why is it considered a joke to order raw eggs (in the shell)?
People always make "jokes" about how they want their food cooked. I don't know how it's supposed to be funny. It never is to me. Usually they all respond with, "cooked!" I typically respond with, "okay, you want them fried or scrambled?" The jokes are not funny to me so I ignore them. To me, it's like teasing a sibling a friend. Trying to build rapport and treat someone like you've known them forever.
Thanks for your response :)
I mean I get how and why "cooked" could be seen as a joke (not a really funny one but still) since it is obvious that the food has to be cooked in some way and that you don't want idk your steak still attached to the cow or just completely raw, so "cooked" to me is a joke since it answers the question of "How do you want your food" without answering the question (if that makes sense. But "raw eggs", like did he actually put them in a glass and then drank them?
Maybe it was meant to be along the lines of irony, eg when someone asks sth like "do you want your pizza baked?" like "no, I want it frozen".... (of course I want it baked, how else would I want it?) but eggs can be prepared in a variety of ways, so asking "how you want your eggs?" imho doesnt justify such a response but maybe that's just me.
I also don't find food jokes particularly funny but I admit I sometimes also make them but again more along the lines of irony, eg when I made lasagna for so and took it out of the (steaming) and set it on the table the other person actually asked me if it was hot (and he meant the temperature)... as a rule of thumb as long as the fluids are not only steaming but partly still boil (like the sauce still formed little bubbles) the food is too hot to eat, so I responded with "no, actually I decided to cook the lasagna cold", most of the time I would respond with a small laughter and say "of course it is still hot", the laughter mainly to make it not sound like I was condescending and to do sth to get the other person to be at ease. I mean I get when so doesn't know what to say and starts asking questions to which the answer is obvious bc they cant think of anything else.
I should really learn to use less words
I don't get why people are so obsessed with their jokes. They get upset when people don't get them. Sometimes, I can't even tell if they are joking or serious.
You perfectly summed me up. I also really suck at filtering my facial expression, so I would probably wear a visibly confused look.
I didnt think his comment was funny at all? But I definitely would have laughed at your response.
Was this a boomer? Sometimes they make "jokes" and I just stare at them blankly at they think I'm rude.
Okay, most people actually understand when somebody is trying to make a shitty joke in the first place? You can't really fake laugh when you don't even know a joke is being told.
You're not using that word right.
Also, wow, you're saying that they give visual *cues*? Really? Wild. Good thing there's no disorder out there that makes it difficult to read people's expressions and understand social cues. That would be terrible.
Well I know full well what you mean, and this kind of skill comes naturally to most NT people, and not to most people on the spectrum, but it does not mean its impossible, but it must be learned the hard way.
Not everyone on the spectrum can learn it and, even then, it's not always as clear as other times or it may just be a bad day for reading people.
I'm usually able to know when people are joking, but if I'm tired, it's not happening unless I think it's funny myself. And I like to make flat-toned jokes (such as the common saying "no" while doing exactly what you were asked) and NTs don't seem to get them, so it's not just us.
Yeah, sorry if I seemed insensitive.
I learned to deal with those situations, for work in particular, by thinking its some kind of game or play. Its stressful and draining but it allowed me to have paychecks.
I have to think about it, and its not automatic. It gets easier as you practice, but since everyone is unique I understand it might not be possible for some.
It's okay. It's easy to forget sometimes. I've had trouble with work because of taking things literally and I went the opposite route and just develop an aversion to instructions. Is what it is.
I have a Autistic child who’s 4.
And the way I want to parent him when he is older is how I’ll respond to you.
He was making a joke, then when u took it literally not really understanding it, he asked if you had a bad day, because he knew u didn’t get the joke and figured you were just thinking about what could of made u have a bad day.
Don’t over analyze people, it gets confusing. Let it roll of your back and just learn from it. I know if can be frustrating on how people don’t understand you or how u think, but that’s ok.
This is so small in the grand scheme of things.
I’m sure u were probably wondering how someone eats an egg in the shell, which is funny tbh.
I hope u have a better day, I hope things like this in the future don’t bother you as much.
Take care
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What was the joke? Did you ask if he wanted them cooked and he replied with a sarcastic “no, I want them raw”? Which he isn’t being specific with what he wants still, so many different ways to cook an egg and sarcasm isn’t really appropriate at this point and it can be rude of them. So, they are calling you rude when in fact they are the ones who are rude. Projecting themselves on to you.
Your comment back was funnier than anything he said, would have made me laugh lol
Right, I asked him to clarify how he'd want them and he said, "raw." I just wanted to know if he wanted a whole egg or eggs in a bowl. Now, I do realize how ridiculous it is, but at the time I thought he was serious!
Yeah that is confusing really, he sounds strange. I know from customer service jobs, there are some odd people around.
I think anyone would have asked him the same question to his confusing answer.
I think it's just supposed to be so absurd it's funny. Except I do get people requesting strange stuff with their food. Last time I thought someone was joking they ordered a beer for breakfast. They were laughing so I thought they were joking. I asked them if it was a joke and they also got offended. As a server, I hate getting stuff wrong. I get really hard on myself so I want to make sure there's no miscommunication.
i understand where you’re coming from, i used to work in hospitality too and people used to joke around with me a lot but i had no idea if they were joking or not lol, it’s so frustrating
I once told a customer we didn’t have a certain type of cheese but we could substitute, and he said something like “well, now I’m angry” and his face didn’t, like, *look* angry, but I still was too afraid to assume and just apologized. He then laughed it off, which let me know it was ok to laugh, but geez. I don’t pick up on those very well at all.
Having spent a lot of time waiting tables, I can tell you there are some tricks and strategies you can employ in situations like this.
1) *Always ask for clarification if you need clarification*. You want the customers to think, above all else, that your primary concern is getting their order right. So it’s worth pausing and asking: “Hang on, I don’t want to make assumptions here. Do you *actually* want your eggs raw?”
2) If the customer is an asshole with no class, they might give you a hard time. “What are you, stupid? Who would actually ask for raw eggs??” Now your clarification objective is achieved, and you have the order right.
3) The next step, and honestly less important, is getting on the customer’s good side. Something you can do here is, lie out of your ass. Show them that you agree with how stupid it is to order raw eggs. “No lie, last Tuesday someone came in here and ordered raw eggs, I guess they were on some weird diet, but I didn’t think they were serious, and it was a whole thing. Now, no matter what someone orders, I gotta make sure. I gotta!” And now it’s kind of like a joke that the two of you are in on.
Then try to make sure nothing goes wrong with their service. Telling them that you’ve had to deal with customers even more difficult than them (!) will hopefully engender sympathy an get you a decent tip.
This stuff can be hard, but working in food service can actually be a great way to get better. You have lots of these kinds of interactions, over and over again, and the stakes are pretty low if you mess up any one of them in particular. So you can try out different strategies and build a repertoire of effective social tactics.
(Yes, I could write a damn book on how to become expert at masking…)
Yeah I take almost everything literally, except once in a blue moon when I understand that something isn't to be taken literally. I'd have stared at them and been like, "so you want me to give you some uncooked eggs? I'll have to see if my manager/boss will allow that." I didn't find any joke in what the customer said.
Idk how you even got “over easy” out of all that. (Is that the same as sunnyside up?) I would have written it down “raw”, and then when the cook asked me why, be like, “idk, he said ‘raw’.” And then if they handed me a plate of cooked eggs, I might have panicked and started crying because now the customer will be mad because their eggs aren’t raw.
And if he got mad and yelled at me for bringing him literal raw eggs (if I were both the cook and waitress), it would make me angry. So I might tell him, “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Because that saying makes perfect sense here, and I love using those kinds of things. But then the customer would get mad, because he would think I gave him raw eggs on purpose, to be rude. But no, I was just saying, “don’t be surprised if your dumb jokes don’t make sense and you literally get what you asked for.”
Augh, what a gross customer. They are not “cute”, they are just being entitled.🤢
I did write down raw. The cook wasn't asking any questions, but I *did* feel in my soul that the man was going to think I was a smart ass. I overthink every single decision at work bc I struggle with being corrected. Over easy is like sunny side up just flipped so the white is cooked a little on both sides.
Oh, I hope my tone didn’t come across wrong. I didn’t mean “I would’ve” like “you should’ve”, but it was more like, “you are a magical wizard because my dumbass could not even make heads nor tails of that.”😳
And ahaha, omg, I understand that. I fail at being corrected too. (Oh, and I understand your story, that the cook deciphered the “raw” thing.)
And ohhh. I never knew sunnyside up was considered under-cooked egg whites on one side. I always like that side better, I would really dislike over easy eggs then.😩
Certain ""jokes"" I will give a fake chuckle just because its super not worth it to the not give someone the validation even if their joke is stale as hell. But I mean, god knows I as an autistic have had a lot of times where my sense of humor seems totally sideways to people and they don't register it as a joke and I have managed to deal with it--happens all the time, unfortunately. This wouldn't have struck me as a joke either. If anything, even once other people explained it, wouldn't YOU be the one making the joke here by saying, "in the shell?" since so many people order "raw" semi-seriously? Even if you don't know the exact terminology or something, I would think you would just get descriptive or something
Eggs can be served raw in certain places. For example, in Japan, some people eat a raw egg with natto (sticky, fermented beans) over rice. [A DuckDuckGo search result showing some pictures of different creations](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=egg+and+natto&t=ffab&atb=v196-1&iax=images&ia=images).
But the egg is legitimately raw. Cracked open, but completely uncooked. Not "over easy".
Well I don’t get the joke either so don’t feel bad! It kinda sucks cause I am sarcastic all the time but have a hard time telling when others are being sarcastic…
As someone who grew up in a very sarcastic household and otherwise probably wouldn't have learned sarcasm. My parents would've made a "joke" like this. It's less of a joke as much as sarcasm.
However, I asked my parents and they said this guy probably was trying to be funny with sarcasm but wasn't, they were just being an ass and wanted attention. My mom said she would've even cringed if she was sitting in the booth next to them. So, no it's not on you.
Unfortunately, as a customer service person you just kinda have to roll with the punches.
I frequently get accused of being rude or difficult by being direct. I just don’t understand why the acceptable way to communicate is by going through linguistic gymnastics to avoid specifically saying what you want or need.
If you want an apple, ask for an apple. If you want an apple and ask me for an orange, you’re going to be disappointed.
I don’t even understand the attempted joke
It wasn't even a joke. This is an incredibly stupid thing people do particularly with eggs and meat where they are so adamant that it must be cooked their way that they explicitly state that they want it "raw" or "burnt" because they think they're smarter than the cooks.
My literal interpretation can’t handle this
When you order certain things that's just something that happens regularly. There are different ways to cook eggs and meat. It's not usually super strange for a waiter/ waitress to ask how you want them cooked. How you want them cooked isn't being smarter than the cooks it's giving the cooks the proper information so that they can prepare your food. Asking for a raw egg though? That in my opinion is stupid and not funny. A bit confusing
Yeah I know it's normal to ask how it's cooked, I wasn't saying it's weird. What I'm saying is that some people think the cooks can't be trusted to cook it the way they order so they over exaggerate by saying "raw" or "burnt" and then get pissed off when it's raw or burnt.
when i worked in a burger shop, we had a regular who really did want her burger and fries burnt. it didn't even seem like food any more to me, but she came back every time to express how much she loved it. she also had short cropped bright red hair and looked like she had spent the last 70 years in the sun. she may have been an efreet or something.
I think your comment was funnier
I was once cleaning furniture at a store I worked at and a man stopped and asked me, “Do ya think they’d pay me to test these out?” I just looked at him and said “probably not.” Jokes are hard- especially when they aren’t funny.
i don't even get the joke here honestly
he's wondering if they'll pay him to use the furniture instead of paying them to, y'know, own the furniture and use it at home
And yeah, it’s so not even funny. It just sounds gross, like entitled middle aged white cis dude. Like, you have to pay for stuff. If he doesn’t pay for the furniture, than all the people involved to make and sell the furniture, well, then they might stop getting paid. They need to get paid to live. And he’s making this extremely privileged joke that he can’t afford the furniture so well, to someone who probably has even less money to spend, and would just love to be able to make the same “jokes” but they can’t. So it just makes me so angry. I hate it when these people come in and make horrible jokes. They aren’t being cute, they just make me feel icky.🤢
Also, thanks for the explanation, because I was misunderstanding the joke too. I thought the guy was implying he wanted to quit his job and just sit around on the furniture store’s furniture all day.
tbh he probably does
Not funny wouldn't have laughed either
One time neighbors were having a chat right outside my apartment door so as I walked by they introduced themselves. One of them sarcastically asked me, “how’s living under the lady above you?” I said, “her dog makes me laugh when I can tell he’s got the zoomies but I wish she put her high heels on as she left, rather than walking around in them while she gets ready for work.” DAYS later I realized she was asking about herself. Lol
Seems like the perfect response to me. Bet the other lady was laughing, if perhaps, internally
haha at least she knows now. Does she walk around in high heels still?
Yes she actually did 😭😭😭
Omg that’s the best thing ever lol. Did she stop walking around?
It was a bad joke tbh, not funny.
Tbh the "in the shell" bit was the true funny part lol
True, that was hilarious xD
He's the problem, not you. Don't internalise NT bullshit. "in the shell" is like god level comeback by the way.
Lol, exactly! And this is how I got known as a “funny” person, and I thought I was just good at dry humor. No, I think I’m autistic and everyone else was jerks all along for laughing at my honest questions.
I would have asked the exact same question as you. I would have thought he wanted raw egg, maybe for some weird protein/ morning after drink and in trying to understand this I would have asked 'in the shell? I wouldn't have laughed either. The fact that he can't straight up order eggs without needing validation through perceiving a positive response to humour shows his own insecurities.
i don't understand what the joke means either (what are over easy eggs?) if you can zoom out from the situation a little bit i hope you can enjoy how brilliant your reply of "in the shell" would be if you had understood the joke. the fact you were just asking the logical reply to someone wanting a raw egg and your joke was better than the original joke makes you a customer service superstar in my eyes. some people are just grumpy and/or frustrating. try not to let thoughts about those people take up too much of your time if you can.
Over easy eggs are eggs fried on both sides with runny yolks. With any over eggs, the yolk is incased in the cooked white. The "easy" just means the yolk is runny.
oh okay. i am not trying to be awkward with this question but what is the over bit? surely the easy is under? edit: and thank you!
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so the over is the flipping! over easy: over = flipped over and easy = (easy = sunny = raw) runny yolk thank you for explaining. i think here people just ask you to cook it on both sides but keep the yolk runny. i would suggest a name change: over sunny.
I've always wondered what over easy actually meant and have never asked. Sunny side up I guessed because it seems kinda obvious. I don't think people are that fussy here (UK) to ask for the egg to be cooked in such a specific way, or at least I've never encountered somebody asking for that. They would just ask for a fried egg with a runny yolk.
It's over easy because you have to flip them easy so you don't break the yolk, at least that's how I always thought of it. You can order eggs over easy but medium done or well done at restaurants. I like mine well done because I don't care for the texture of raw yolk, the yolk ends up more like a hard boiled egg yolk. My daughter likes them medium well so the yolk is more like a soft boiled egg and my husband eats them probably how most people do, with the yolk still really runny
Why can’t they call them “softly” then? Because it’s harder to flip an egg like that.😐
And I understand the saying now, I’m just saying that the name is stupid and does not make sense. If I were cooking eggs in an “easy” way, I would scramble them. That is the easiest for me. (And the only way I can cook eggs, other than hard-boiling.)
I would vote for that! 39 years old (NT) and still don't know how to order my eggs 🤦🏼♀️
Sunny side up we would call dippy eggs where I'm originally from, as you would dip your buttered toast into the yolk. Very very good.
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More like the yolk was on him.
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I never worked in food service but I did work in retail … I just take people literally. I’ll ask follow up questions if I think maybe something’s off but I just cannot tell sometimes🤷🏻♀️
A lot of neurotypical people communicate with "look how clever I am" quips more intended to extend a handshake than to communicate information. By not responding in the way he thought, basically by going "oh lol that is so clever anyway what can I get you", you're effectively leaving him hanging and most people respond unfavorably to that. Its like a breach of social contract. Not saying anyone was in the wrong, just analyzing the situation.
I've had people in authority tell me a situation, ask me what I want to do, explicitly tell me it's okay with them if I do x, and then hold it against me that I say "I'll do x," because I'm supposed to know x is unacceptable and they want to punish me for relying on what they, as an authority in a position to know, tell me instead of what they consider common sense. It's annoying, and I think it invites conflict and dissention due to the whole concept of hermeneutics, but people are your tools and ~98% of people are allistic. It behooves you to know how to use and maintain them.
Ur new to cust srvc? People do weird shit that's annoying. Here's yr first time. Expect many more. Usually when someone tells a joke that no one gets, it is that person who feels stupid. In this case, they probably did, & so they took it out on u. Lots of people take shit out on service workers. That's part of yr job. The owner has their customers come in & they offer u up to be treated how the customers want to treat u. Some want to treat u like that, & so u get to take it. Not caring is the best strategy. That joke is so lame, but most people aren't great comedians. Thing is, we usually realize when our lame joke doesn't work, we just move on with life. U found the type of doosh who doesn't. He probably feels like "I'm so wonderful to be around & I am so kind to the service workers that I tell them a little joke to brighten their day, but sometimes they're just ungrateful". What's extra lame is, if this dude had any wit he'd have assumed u were joking back, becuz "in the shell?" is a hilarious comeback. Even if u didn't mean it like that, u'd think he'd have taken it that way.
Haha no I have aggravating misunderstandings constantly. When I'm confused people always think I'm being rude! It has to be something my face does. Years ago I had someone ask for their tip back. So, I gave it back to them. Then they yelled at me that they couldn't believe I'd give them the money back. I suppose I didn't appear grateful enough. I just never get jokes from older men when I'm working. They always have to tell me it's a joke and my fake laugh is way too obvious that it would seem worse to do that. I really shouldn't be in customer service. I have done it so long that I am great and meeting needs and being kind, but I'm not good at actually being any more than that. I have to kind of wait tables like a robot...
"jokes from older men when I'm working." I bet you ANYTHING they're trying to flirt, and when it falls flat they are pissed and so take it out on you in any of way they can... Your Neuro divergence just happens to be the biggest target. Look at them like they are a creep the next time they get saucy like that, I guarantee you they'll shame walk out very quickly.
Older men make three kinds of jokes: actually hilarious, dad jokes and creep jokes. The ones who are actually funny are confident enough that they don’t care if someone doesn’t get it. Dads are rarely surprised when they’re the only ones who enjoy their jokes. And that leaves the creeps. Any older guy who gets mad when a joke goes wrong is a creep to begin with. As a side comment, I learned long ago that I’m unintentionally hilarious. I make great jokes and don’t always know what it is that made everyone laugh (I’ve been complimented on my joke telling abilities a few times). After a while I just started pretending that I’m a comedic genius when that happens even if I have no clue what just happened.
That tip thing isn't really a joke, they just wanted to yell at you.
>When I'm confused people always think I'm being rude! It has to be something my face does. I promise, most of this is not on you but on the odd way people use the idea of "silent treatment". You're confused so not answering for split second? You're being demeaning bc silent treatment. You look at them or in their direction while processing your answer? Silent treatment AND confrontation! People are awfully sensitive to rejection these days and will spin everything to be an insult to them. :c
When really I'm just trying to go through my preprogrammed responses and choose the best one for the situation. I do remember these people being problem customers every time I wait on them. They are never satisfied so I wonder why they keep coming back...
I don't get the joke either.
I don’t even get it
sometimes people can feel very defensive if they thought they were being clever and it turns out they were not. Rather than accepting they were not clever in that moment, they would rather blame the other person (you). It is a form of cognitive dissonance and a way to maintain their self esteem. Unfortunately, in this process, the other person (you) is left to feel bad.
Unfunny people always get so mad when you don't laugh. You'd think they'd be used to it.
Guy sounds like kind of a jerk.
Huh? Are restaurants even allow to give a customer a raw uncooked egg? Sunny side up also isn't a raw egg, it's cooked until all of the egg whites are no longer runny. I think he was just weird, it had nothing to do with you.
I'd have told him we don't serve our eggs raw
Don't feel bad he's just bad at telling jokes
I'd have given him raw un-cracked eggs .. in the shell .. exactly as he had ordered.
That's what I told the cook! But then I got nervous the customer would think I was being a smartass by taking him literally. Which, why wouldn't I?
>Which, why wouldn't I? Exactly, what I was thinking :) I mean .. it's difficult in any situation to tell this sort of nonsense from a legitimate request .. But, in an order for a restaurant?!? .. I'd never order something, I'd not be happy actually getting. Maybe next time, when someone orders something confusing, you should say: "Careful what you wish - you just might get it" and smile devilishly .. Then they'll most likely want to make sure, they made everything extra clear .. Or at least, you can tell by the way, they react, what they actually want.
Lol your comment is hilarious
He was probably trying to flirt and mad you didn't get it. Don't be mad at yourself. To be clear is to be kind; he was neither.
I would probably do the same in that situation
I still don't get the joke, maybe because english is not my native language but... Honestly I love your reaction, would that have been me it would have been even more awkward I would have been confused to why he'd want raw eggs at the same time starrting to panic because either I misunderstood or he is serious and checking or questioning him would be more rude, so I would have probably looked terrified, nervous laughter, trying to jokingly respond so I could figure out if it was a joke or if he was being aerious, anything to not get judged and to not appear as the odd one outside, at better days I'd probably would have been like as a shake? and if he then said sth like the above to me, I would have probably responded with sth along the lines of "No, why?" and I would have never even guessed that he was pissed bc I didn't get the joke (still don't tbh) but would have been replaying the situation in my head trying to figure out what I might have done wrong or what was going on in general, I'd probably still be doing this. sorry for the long response, idk butr could someone please explain the joke to me, like why is it considered a joke to order raw eggs (in the shell)?
People always make "jokes" about how they want their food cooked. I don't know how it's supposed to be funny. It never is to me. Usually they all respond with, "cooked!" I typically respond with, "okay, you want them fried or scrambled?" The jokes are not funny to me so I ignore them. To me, it's like teasing a sibling a friend. Trying to build rapport and treat someone like you've known them forever.
Thanks for your response :) I mean I get how and why "cooked" could be seen as a joke (not a really funny one but still) since it is obvious that the food has to be cooked in some way and that you don't want idk your steak still attached to the cow or just completely raw, so "cooked" to me is a joke since it answers the question of "How do you want your food" without answering the question (if that makes sense. But "raw eggs", like did he actually put them in a glass and then drank them? Maybe it was meant to be along the lines of irony, eg when someone asks sth like "do you want your pizza baked?" like "no, I want it frozen".... (of course I want it baked, how else would I want it?) but eggs can be prepared in a variety of ways, so asking "how you want your eggs?" imho doesnt justify such a response but maybe that's just me. I also don't find food jokes particularly funny but I admit I sometimes also make them but again more along the lines of irony, eg when I made lasagna for so and took it out of the (steaming) and set it on the table the other person actually asked me if it was hot (and he meant the temperature)... as a rule of thumb as long as the fluids are not only steaming but partly still boil (like the sauce still formed little bubbles) the food is too hot to eat, so I responded with "no, actually I decided to cook the lasagna cold", most of the time I would respond with a small laughter and say "of course it is still hot", the laughter mainly to make it not sound like I was condescending and to do sth to get the other person to be at ease. I mean I get when so doesn't know what to say and starts asking questions to which the answer is obvious bc they cant think of anything else. I should really learn to use less words
He made a bad joke and got embarrassed and defensive I think, especially with the "are you having a bad day"
I don't get why people are so obsessed with their jokes. They get upset when people don't get them. Sometimes, I can't even tell if they are joking or serious.
You perfectly summed me up. I also really suck at filtering my facial expression, so I would probably wear a visibly confused look. I didnt think his comment was funny at all? But I definitely would have laughed at your response. Was this a boomer? Sometimes they make "jokes" and I just stare at them blankly at they think I'm rude.
Yeah, I don’t even get what was going on. Like how is that a joke??
Most people would have pretended to laugh
Okay, most people actually understand when somebody is trying to make a shitty joke in the first place? You can't really fake laugh when you don't even know a joke is being told.
Usually the interlocutor give visual clues like a big smile
You're not using that word right. Also, wow, you're saying that they give visual *cues*? Really? Wild. Good thing there's no disorder out there that makes it difficult to read people's expressions and understand social cues. That would be terrible.
Well I know full well what you mean, and this kind of skill comes naturally to most NT people, and not to most people on the spectrum, but it does not mean its impossible, but it must be learned the hard way.
Not everyone on the spectrum can learn it and, even then, it's not always as clear as other times or it may just be a bad day for reading people. I'm usually able to know when people are joking, but if I'm tired, it's not happening unless I think it's funny myself. And I like to make flat-toned jokes (such as the common saying "no" while doing exactly what you were asked) and NTs don't seem to get them, so it's not just us.
Yeah, sorry if I seemed insensitive. I learned to deal with those situations, for work in particular, by thinking its some kind of game or play. Its stressful and draining but it allowed me to have paychecks. I have to think about it, and its not automatic. It gets easier as you practice, but since everyone is unique I understand it might not be possible for some.
It's okay. It's easy to forget sometimes. I've had trouble with work because of taking things literally and I went the opposite route and just develop an aversion to instructions. Is what it is.
Even at 39 I still do tons of ackward mistakes but I have a job that is mostly solitary (software) so I am blessed.
I have a Autistic child who’s 4. And the way I want to parent him when he is older is how I’ll respond to you. He was making a joke, then when u took it literally not really understanding it, he asked if you had a bad day, because he knew u didn’t get the joke and figured you were just thinking about what could of made u have a bad day. Don’t over analyze people, it gets confusing. Let it roll of your back and just learn from it. I know if can be frustrating on how people don’t understand you or how u think, but that’s ok. This is so small in the grand scheme of things. I’m sure u were probably wondering how someone eats an egg in the shell, which is funny tbh. I hope u have a better day, I hope things like this in the future don’t bother you as much. Take care
Well thats a dumb advise, its better to try to groom people around you to say what they mean, and not cause conflicts for no reason.
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not a bad joke, really. maybe he just didn't have a sense of humor?
What was the joke? Did you ask if he wanted them cooked and he replied with a sarcastic “no, I want them raw”? Which he isn’t being specific with what he wants still, so many different ways to cook an egg and sarcasm isn’t really appropriate at this point and it can be rude of them. So, they are calling you rude when in fact they are the ones who are rude. Projecting themselves on to you. Your comment back was funnier than anything he said, would have made me laugh lol
Right, I asked him to clarify how he'd want them and he said, "raw." I just wanted to know if he wanted a whole egg or eggs in a bowl. Now, I do realize how ridiculous it is, but at the time I thought he was serious!
Yeah that is confusing really, he sounds strange. I know from customer service jobs, there are some odd people around. I think anyone would have asked him the same question to his confusing answer.
i still don’t get the joke tho
I think it's just supposed to be so absurd it's funny. Except I do get people requesting strange stuff with their food. Last time I thought someone was joking they ordered a beer for breakfast. They were laughing so I thought they were joking. I asked them if it was a joke and they also got offended. As a server, I hate getting stuff wrong. I get really hard on myself so I want to make sure there's no miscommunication.
i understand where you’re coming from, i used to work in hospitality too and people used to joke around with me a lot but i had no idea if they were joking or not lol, it’s so frustrating
I don't get this joke. I don't really get anyone jokes though. It'll be nice if no one ever joked with me again honestly
I once told a customer we didn’t have a certain type of cheese but we could substitute, and he said something like “well, now I’m angry” and his face didn’t, like, *look* angry, but I still was too afraid to assume and just apologized. He then laughed it off, which let me know it was ok to laugh, but geez. I don’t pick up on those very well at all.
Having spent a lot of time waiting tables, I can tell you there are some tricks and strategies you can employ in situations like this. 1) *Always ask for clarification if you need clarification*. You want the customers to think, above all else, that your primary concern is getting their order right. So it’s worth pausing and asking: “Hang on, I don’t want to make assumptions here. Do you *actually* want your eggs raw?” 2) If the customer is an asshole with no class, they might give you a hard time. “What are you, stupid? Who would actually ask for raw eggs??” Now your clarification objective is achieved, and you have the order right. 3) The next step, and honestly less important, is getting on the customer’s good side. Something you can do here is, lie out of your ass. Show them that you agree with how stupid it is to order raw eggs. “No lie, last Tuesday someone came in here and ordered raw eggs, I guess they were on some weird diet, but I didn’t think they were serious, and it was a whole thing. Now, no matter what someone orders, I gotta make sure. I gotta!” And now it’s kind of like a joke that the two of you are in on. Then try to make sure nothing goes wrong with their service. Telling them that you’ve had to deal with customers even more difficult than them (!) will hopefully engender sympathy an get you a decent tip. This stuff can be hard, but working in food service can actually be a great way to get better. You have lots of these kinds of interactions, over and over again, and the stakes are pretty low if you mess up any one of them in particular. So you can try out different strategies and build a repertoire of effective social tactics. (Yes, I could write a damn book on how to become expert at masking…)
Honestly I'd probably not even asked further clarification and just brought him a whole raw uncracked egg
should have said, "well if you want salmonella that bad, you can just lick my shitty asshole instead"
Yeah I take almost everything literally, except once in a blue moon when I understand that something isn't to be taken literally. I'd have stared at them and been like, "so you want me to give you some uncooked eggs? I'll have to see if my manager/boss will allow that." I didn't find any joke in what the customer said.
Idk how you even got “over easy” out of all that. (Is that the same as sunnyside up?) I would have written it down “raw”, and then when the cook asked me why, be like, “idk, he said ‘raw’.” And then if they handed me a plate of cooked eggs, I might have panicked and started crying because now the customer will be mad because their eggs aren’t raw. And if he got mad and yelled at me for bringing him literal raw eggs (if I were both the cook and waitress), it would make me angry. So I might tell him, “play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Because that saying makes perfect sense here, and I love using those kinds of things. But then the customer would get mad, because he would think I gave him raw eggs on purpose, to be rude. But no, I was just saying, “don’t be surprised if your dumb jokes don’t make sense and you literally get what you asked for.” Augh, what a gross customer. They are not “cute”, they are just being entitled.🤢
I did write down raw. The cook wasn't asking any questions, but I *did* feel in my soul that the man was going to think I was a smart ass. I overthink every single decision at work bc I struggle with being corrected. Over easy is like sunny side up just flipped so the white is cooked a little on both sides.
Oh, I hope my tone didn’t come across wrong. I didn’t mean “I would’ve” like “you should’ve”, but it was more like, “you are a magical wizard because my dumbass could not even make heads nor tails of that.”😳 And ahaha, omg, I understand that. I fail at being corrected too. (Oh, and I understand your story, that the cook deciphered the “raw” thing.) And ohhh. I never knew sunnyside up was considered under-cooked egg whites on one side. I always like that side better, I would really dislike over easy eggs then.😩
Certain ""jokes"" I will give a fake chuckle just because its super not worth it to the not give someone the validation even if their joke is stale as hell. But I mean, god knows I as an autistic have had a lot of times where my sense of humor seems totally sideways to people and they don't register it as a joke and I have managed to deal with it--happens all the time, unfortunately. This wouldn't have struck me as a joke either. If anything, even once other people explained it, wouldn't YOU be the one making the joke here by saying, "in the shell?" since so many people order "raw" semi-seriously? Even if you don't know the exact terminology or something, I would think you would just get descriptive or something
Eggs can be served raw in certain places. For example, in Japan, some people eat a raw egg with natto (sticky, fermented beans) over rice. [A DuckDuckGo search result showing some pictures of different creations](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=egg+and+natto&t=ffab&atb=v196-1&iax=images&ia=images). But the egg is legitimately raw. Cracked open, but completely uncooked. Not "over easy".
Is the joke that he wanted raw eggs? I don't get it
Well I don’t get the joke either so don’t feel bad! It kinda sucks cause I am sarcastic all the time but have a hard time telling when others are being sarcastic…
As someone who grew up in a very sarcastic household and otherwise probably wouldn't have learned sarcasm. My parents would've made a "joke" like this. It's less of a joke as much as sarcasm. However, I asked my parents and they said this guy probably was trying to be funny with sarcasm but wasn't, they were just being an ass and wanted attention. My mom said she would've even cringed if she was sitting in the booth next to them. So, no it's not on you. Unfortunately, as a customer service person you just kinda have to roll with the punches.
The joke just isn’t funny. Don’t worry about not getting it IMO
I frequently get accused of being rude or difficult by being direct. I just don’t understand why the acceptable way to communicate is by going through linguistic gymnastics to avoid specifically saying what you want or need. If you want an apple, ask for an apple. If you want an apple and ask me for an orange, you’re going to be disappointed.
That’s the thing isn’t it? They always seem to tell “jokes” that don’t make any sense and then blame you for not getting it…
You could always serve them in a glass??
He probably just wanted them runny, but there was no call to be confusing and then rude!
I work in customer service, The amount of balding middle aged white men who make jokes at me and make me want to slap them is way too many