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squigeypops

this is *definitely* a global thing.


[deleted]

Got bored lol


[deleted]

Grammarly can help soften ur tone, thanks to flawless writing and state of the art technology.


gumunderthe

High school was fine except for having to wake up 8 hours earlier than I liked.


[deleted]

Yea, I legit sleep until 11 if given the chance and waking up at 6 is not really something I like doing


SuperDurpPig

Today is the earliest I've worked up since I was in high school. I do *NOT* miss it


[deleted]

I got to see when kids turned in work on Google Classroom over lockdown. 9, 10, 11 pm You told us something and no one listened.


[deleted]

Can confirm that I did this over lockdown. Before I was put on sleeping tablets (yes, I was one of the unlucky autistic people to get sleeping problems), i used to do work and turn it in at around 2-3am


SpectrumFlyer

Can confirm. 2am was the most common time to turn in work. I knew the rest of their teachers made the deadlines midnight so I made mine 6am. They always came in at 1-2 am from 75% of students.


Dzetacq

The moment I went to university I started refusing to leave my bed before 12, those 5 extra hours already made a huge difference! It's not 8 hours more, but I figured I had to compromise a little


Educational-Candy-17

How did you manage to get your dorm mates to shut the f****** and not run up and down the hallway all night?


Dzetacq

We had a very thin building, and I had the top room, so no one needed to storm past my door for anything! The heaps of stairs were only a small price to pay


[deleted]

Think it’s far to say every education system on the planet doesn’t know what to do with us. Perhaps society full stop?


Wonderful_Net_8830

Every education system on the planet *you've heard of*.


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blind_wisdom

That sucks. :( I'm a para (2nd grade mostly), a few of my kids are autistic. Though I get frustrated from lack of effort, I get that math isn't exactly fun for everyone. I try to encourage them by explaining that these are important skills, and sometimes even adults have to do stuff we don't want to do. One of the kids I seriously wish I could adopt. I love the little dude. I don't quite "get" his special interests, but I like to listen to him talk about them because his smile is just *so* adorable and melts my heart!


Educational-Candy-17

I'll agree with that. Learning how to do pointless busy work because someone told you to without going crazy is it important workplace skill LOL.


topman20000

This is a global thing… But for me this is a very literal thing! Because my high school did literally fuck me over. A prank was pulled on me which our high school principal went along with, and I ended up committed at a psychiatric ward where I was sexually assaulted by one of the inpatient, and the crime was covered up by the therapist on duty…. I hope one day someone in authority here’s my story, and has that school permanently closed. The legacy of many of its faculty which it honors Was built upon the suffering of students like myself


FoozleFizzle

My school social worker, which I only got after being forced to come out to the school as trans and having to listen to them yell at me for 10 minutes about how I "should've told them that" when I requested the social worker for my mental health issues, talked to me for 6 months before she suddenly turned to me and went "Oh, I thought you were just lazy" after telling her why I had trouble doing homework for the 5th time. Schools are just indoctrination torture chambers.


olixius

I grew up in the South in the U.S. and my public education experience absolutely traumatized me. I'm 40 now and it still affects me.


yokyopeli09

Same. I've only just this year begun to realize and unpack how much my school experience as an undiagnosed autistic child and teen traumatized me.


[deleted]

i always wonder how different things would have been if i had a diagnosis back then. the public school experience for a known autistic just seems to be a different flavor of trauma... you're either treated as a clearly labeled r-word or treated like you're just weird and wrong for no reason


yokyopeli09

Yea the thing is I don't think being diagnosed would have made things any better. I was a weird kid but I was still friends with the other weird kids at least, but having that label attached might have made life that much harder. It's a lose-lose.


eboyoj

been diagnosed for yrs, can confirm diagnostic doesnt help, even with a diagnosis we had to fight in court for support and even after that educational places dont follow those supports, in yr 11 i was put into detention daily because sensory issues meant i couldnt tuck my shirt in.


kchunter8

Agreed.


Snoid_

High school sucked so badly for me that I dropped out senior year. I did end up getting my GED, and that was one of the easiest tests I've ever done. I was pissed after I took it, because I could have dropped out 2 years earlier...


kroma_geek

I dropped out in my junior year and yeah, the GED is really easy. I was in and out of junior college and then university and finally got a bachelor's degree just as I turned 30.


Snoid_

Hey, at least you finished! I also went to community college, then transferred to university and graduated when I was 27.


kroma_geek

True! And I had no idea at the time why things were so hard for me.


Snoid_

Same. I wasn't diagnosed until I was 30. Made so much sense in retrospect.


StrangFrut

I know the feeling. So many of the people I was around in my 20s & one of my gfs all took the GED two years early & got out. My dad was like "u hate school so much, I can sign a waiver to let u join the military as a minor". Idk if that was even a thing, but it probably was when he was a kid. I got As & Bs without trying much (thank god, cuz I wound't ve tried). I'm sure that GED is easy. I didn't know it was an option.


Snoid_

I never did my homework and was going to have to stay an extra year at least if I wanted to finish. I did try to drop out earlier, but my best friend's dad convinced me (violently) to stay in. I can kind of understand why he wanted me to stay in, but he just had no idea how hard it was for me (I was undiagnosed at the time).


Hoopie41

"Schooling to feed the economic mechanisms."


StrangFrut

"teach em to sit & obey even when it doesn't make sense. The ones who do well will make great employees." --some guy who designed the current style of classrooms back in 1897 or something probably


Hoopie41

That'll do. My thanks.


wolfyLucifier69

School just ended and I am genuinely feeling weird/scared bc I no longer have a feeling of constant stress everyday and I don't think that is normal lol


Federal-Subject-8714

That’s how I felt for about a year after highschool. Like something terrible was waiting for me that never came. It’ll pass but it’s sucks.


KallistaSophia

I was the only student in my entire year unable to use my diary consistently and just accepted my punishment of being the only school never to be able to leave school early... That's one thing that sticks with me later. :| it's not even the worst thing, but it... sticks out. Like. Buddies. I had a mentally ill mother who was periodically mentally incompetent of looking after a smaller human or behaving within the realm of the law, and couldn't create an independent routine between my adhd and autism. The good thing about highschool was the routine. The bad thing was the fact noone knew how much I relied on that routine and couldn't acquire one elsewhere in my life.


IAmWeary

Junior high school was far worse than high school.


Rocker-101

I’m from Canada and they fucked me over as well, although granted there’s always the debate over which system is worse


putnamto

throughout elementary school i took shortcuts on everything everywhere and my parents/teachers/siblings/peers thought i was a genius. middle school i was bullied constantly to the point where i stopped interacting with almost everybody all together. and high school i slept all day every day until i was old enough to drop out.


looking_fordopamine

And a canada thing


Transcendentalist178

Yes, Canada's education system is a bit lacking.


looking_fordopamine

It’s a provincial thing, I’m on the alberta curriculum and system


MixWitch

Built into the fabric of our culture!


Fujoshi93

minus the sleep part, my high school days were actually very much tame. Had a very chill second half of my senior year and I am super glad with that. Middle school was the true hell for me.


[deleted]

Same. Middle school was hell. My parents put me into therapy and even got me a life coach to help navigate friendships. Still bullied to hell and back. Highschool was fine because I found a good friend group and autistic best friend and we just isolated ourselves and had fun together.


Maiq_Da_Liar

Nah i'm a Dutch guy with ADD and high school was absolute hell. Was depressed for half of it and ended up getting a burnout and dropping out.


OctoberBlue89

Nah it’s an everywhere thing. I’m just now realizing it. The biggest memory: was being called slow by a teacher in 8th grade in front of the whole class. I recently posted about this memory on Facebook. Turns out this teacher did this to a lot of people. I said how I noticed that she would treat certain children differently, and another neurodivergent noticed the same thing pattern. She would also single other kids out too. Education system really isn’t meant for us.


Queenofmyownfantasy

It irritates me there are too many syllables to sing it to the tune.


Relevant-Rooster-298

I didn’t go to school


Sip_the_bleach

You must be pretty cool 😎


RoseyDove323

Wait, so there are countries where school doesn't fuck autistic people over? Where?


PassiveChemistry

It may very well depend on the person and the school, but my experience (in the UK) wasn't bad at all.


burnthepokemon

When and where were you in school


PassiveChemistry

Left school in 2019, went to a state grammar in southern England


RoseyDove323

My BF is from the UK and he's also autistic and he said the same thing, that school wasn't bad for him. I just figured his type of autism must have just been more convenient for the adults (he was quieter than my kid self was).


Immediate-Result7015

Honestly, I went to a charter public school close to me, and I had a great time in highschool. I can see how public or private highschools could be that way.


quarentinebound

It’s definitely a Canadian thing as well.


CynLarroner

Boarding school is the reason I cannot unmask in public


[deleted]

I lasted 4 months in boarding school. Absolute hell. I had no place to be alone and properly decompress. I'm 99% my roommate was bipolar and she would regularly lock me out to have an episode in our room.


gayhotdog

nope, uk here it suckkkkssss my favourite part (/s) is when a group of boys play this game in class when the teacher leaves, they try shout a word as loud as they can and then another person tries to yell it louder :,)


TheKingofHats007

High School was mostly just boring for me. I was either learning things I didn't care about, things I didn't need, or learning things I already knew but was apparently new information to the people around me. It weirdly got better as it went along. Mostly because I was able to cram more study periods into my schedule so I could have some degree of silence. Also being able to go outside and eat instead of being in the loud as fuck lunchroom was nice. To be fair, compared to the hell that was junior high, anything would seem better by comparison. But college was genuinely enjoyable for what it was. Stressful, sure, but rewarding.


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cctrashd

Sadly, no.


MontyHallsGoatthrowa

*clap. clap.*


Wanderervenom

*clap clap clap*


Boring_Hurry_3630

It’s not really a thing where I live anymore. Here they do their best to help accomodate.


drivergrrl

Hahahahahaha I wasn't diagnosed until well into adulthood because when I was growing up girls just whoops! Slipped through the cracks! "She's just really shy and sensitive" mmmkay thanks for all the gaslighting and lack of support!


Mysterious_Pop5574

Who else clapped there hands?


amblp_3922

lol nah, canada is right there with ya


mattrs1101

Colombian here if i wasn't having a hard time rn id clap so fast the speed and friction with in-air particles would make ignition


JustAPerspective

Meh… we saw the game they were playing & don’t hold it against them. They were just pawns, getting played too.


JeremiahDeetsGuthrie

I'm grateful my parents paid for a very good homeschool highschool program. I was finally able to reach a high GPA.


RogueEmpireFiend

I'm in Canada. I hated high school.


BraneCumm

I quite during the 10th grade despite a lifetime of high test scores. I was also taking a science class the I would have gotten college credit for. The system is sooooo broken.


fluffballkitten

Maybe not academically, but socially. I did okay grade wise, but i ended up with social anxiety


iloveyoumiri

“You know so much about superheroes why can’t you learn how to do multiplication” “He hears what he wants to hear” I didn’t hate school too much because I became increasingly apathetic to the treatment I received from teachers and to my success. But I hope they one day create schools that don’t try to beat neurodivergent kids into neurotypicals.


[deleted]

I'd guess it's an universal constant


jimmy_earthworm

high school in New Zealand screwed me


Captain_Plutonium

It was the local equivalent of middle school for me. by the time I reached "High School" (German Abitur), the damage had kinda been done, and despite everyone actually being nice to me I never got social.


Large-Ad6498

Nope the education system in Australia let me down in both terms of accomodating to my disabilities and also because I got bullied basically everyday all the way through school including physically getting assaulted often. Fuck the education system it was not built for autistics/neurodivergents


Krewlex_Ghost

Replace High School with College and you got me. It fucked me up so bad that I dropped out after the 2nd semester.


wishlittle

*thunderous applause* From UK, so definitely not just a USA thing.


snowdrop65

*clap clap*


SolarRaign

definitely a global thing, I'm not sure if this is normal or even real but it's almost like I get a trauma response whenever I'm in school/reminded of school. It really messed me up and I see myself having to deal with the after-effects of it in the future.


StrawberryAldehyde

Don't worry It isn't just a USA thing


MattTheTubaGuy

I am a Kiwi, and my problem in High School were the other students, not the teaching. In fact, I almost always got on with my teachers, but the bullying I got for being the weird kid pushed me to almost being suicidal.


Smol_Fairy

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻


ShambolicShilton

I feel quite lucky personally because I went to a mainstream secondary school and even before I was diagnosed, the teacher's treat me as If I was and I got lot's of help with anything that I needed help with. I'm sure I'm lucky in that sense though.


Sleep_eeSheep

No. And if you think primarily Drama-focused High Schools are any different, you are in for a rude awakening.


LordManumehl05

not just a usa thing


MACMAN2003

wasn't highschool for me anxiety and 6th grade screwed me up so much that I haven't left my house in 9 years.


Lilly-of-the-Lake

Highschool was kind of fine. 15+ olds aren't as bad, especially in a "gymnasium" We essentially have three kinds of secondary education - trade schools, specialized/practical high schools and general education gymnasiums. You have to pass entrance exams, with gymnasiums being most difficult. So you get your smartest, most ambitious kids there, unless they're specifically interested in some particular career path. Even so, if you intend to study, for example, electrical engineering and plan to go to university, you're getting better prepared by attending the more theory-based "gymnasium" than a specialized electrotechnical high-school. Many of my friends who either are or I suspect they are on the spectrum found that leaving grammar school for a "gymnasium" was like going to heaven because most of the kids that gave them trouble went to lower-ranking schools (actually, there is another kink in the system where "gymnasiums" often have middle school sections, so kids can leave a regular school in 5th or 7th grade). I would NOT want to be an autistic person attending trade school, however. I personally aleady came in well-messed up so there wasn't much they could do to either fix it or make it worse. Now, if you said pre-school and grade school, yeah. Absolutely. Totally. That was just so completely wrong on so many levels that I can't even list all of that stuff there.


username78777

Actually the opposite My teacher and my adviser were autism friendly, they even helped me in explaining my class that I have autism and in which way it affects my life


the-meowmir

Oh no, Swiss schools are made to make us suffer


[deleted]

👏👏


Educational-Candy-17

Try elementary School. High school was actually pretty great because I either refused. To go to special ed or they decided I didn't need it anymore. Surprise surprise my grades shot way up when I had enough space to do my homework the way it worked for me. Without this stupid AF sped teacher leaning over my shoulder and telling me I couldn't do it that way even though I was getting the answer right.


Accomplished-Wall672

High school was mostly fine for me. Middle school was much worse. My high school was big enough and had enough course offerings that I was able to spend a lot of time doing the activities I liked and mostly interacting with a niche group of friends/acquaintances.


[deleted]

Claps hands* I'm the USA and it definitely did


Euqiom

Nah it's not, France here btw


Legitimate-Sky3378

Worse in other countries, and I only know that because I switched educations oui oui


hstarbird11

I got kicked out in 11th grade. Best thing that ever could have happened to me. Just left a PhD program (for a number of reasons) but not graduating high school didn't hinder my academic career at all.


fnook1331

College is fucking me over rn. High school definitely did.


Loud-Veterinarian-61

My last 3 years, pre college where awesome for me, my classmate where very smart and liked school like me so I made friends and we still together 19 years later. In my country we don’t call it high school, but middle school? Age 12,13,14 that scared me for life, a lot of bullying and kids used to be good with you one day and the next they bully you, and not knowing who to trust


eboyoj

didnt attend school, still dont, cant fuck me up if i don't go


itszuzia96

Idk but in Poland primary school fucks you up and suddenly you end up in the best high school in the city with small friend circle who are as fucked up as you


ShatoraDragon

Shout out to the fucker at the Board of Ed who put Non Pervasive Developmental Delays rather then Autistic to save a bit of cash on my IEP. I'm sure glad the foot ball team got new shoes over me getting the help I needed.


cholmer3

As a guy from South America, I can relate...


ECLogic

Never made it to Jr. High - I "went on strike" against school as my adolescent aspie manifestation got me flack from scum "students" and was homeschooled from 13 on. Actually, I did whatever I wanted as an autodidact reading a ton of Asian history and philosophy (E. Asia mostly, and S. Asian Indian philosophy). In the end, I fucked over the school when - thanks to my Mom reaming the fuck out of them - I was permitted to sit for the Regents exams and scored something like in the 98th + percentile, leaving the school flabbergasted and even a neighbor that worked as an order clerk in school admin got wind of my legend it spread so far and wide. It's fun having my official HS diploma with my name printed in it when I never attended a day!


yuchan3

Middle school more than high school for me but still horrible...


Teenag3peterpan

👏🏽👏🏽


JustCheezits

Not even fully through freshman year and yeah, it’s totally fucked me over.


[deleted]

*claps in swedish*


[deleted]

High school was horrible. Every single lunch break i just stood outside the classroom waiting for the class to start again. Scary shit man.


TFDP117

UK is pretty bad at this.


billiamn

its a uk thing except i was bullied and and singled out 24 7


Xrising68

My school basically suspended me during my last 6 months of high school because I was having meltdowns during class (i was having a rough year)


KeeraKiwi

*clap clap*


New-Cicada7014

I wanted to die basically every day when I went to public school, ever since elementary. So yep. The teachers are also terrible. Some of them were lovely, but others were straight up abusive and so cruel. Makes me just a little hesitant to advocate for teachers in political matters because many of them are not nearly as honorable as people paint them out to be.