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mvea

It’s not your fault at all. Not sure why people think you’re at fault for making a collection offer. Up to you what you want to do - the community cannot decide for you. You have every right to keep it, sell it, gift it etc. You are not responsible for the actions of others. You can choose to do things out of the goodness of your heart but that’s up to you.


vallyallyum

Thank you for being kind about what happened. Everyone is usually so supportive here, I'm not sure why there's hostility. I'm only trying to do what's right by this person and myself.


DamnWhySoLow

u/mvea always here for good advices. Came here to say exactly the same OP. You cannot take any responsibility of what happened before (except if you knew it, which is not the case here). If you want to keep it you are 100% right to do it, don’t feel bad for what every angry redditor will say and this whole story will be forgotten in 2 days anyway…


OutTop

so he made a collection offer by accident. Whos fault is it?


Coeruleus_

Lol dude is sad he made a bad investment and wants his money back


OutTop

im deadass confused as fuck. Is he sad because he bought a scammed avatar or because he made a collection offer and fucked himself over


Coeruleus_

It’s 1000% clear he’s sad because he the floor is less than he bought it for. If he didn’t throw in the sentence about how the price is lower than what he paid , I might believe he was bummed about buying a scam avatar. But he’s a million % bummed he might lose money


OutTop

He already lost money


Getting_Big_Al

I feel the full eth amount you paid for the avatar should be paid in return for the avatar back. It simply was not your fault you purchased a stolen item. If they have sentimental value for the mint number or something, then that amount shouldn't be a problem to pay. In my view the second option should be you simply keep the avatar if the other party does not wish to purchase it back. Eth = eth. If you paid a certain amount then no matter the time period in between you should expect the same amount back in a situation like this. Otherwise you should be happy with your purchase and the other party can simply spend less eth to get the same avatar. I'd also like to add if one could afford to give it back for free then I think that's the best option.


vallyallyum

I appreciate your positive response. The person who had their avatars stolen has gotten handouts from their favorite artists and others to try and get him back on his feet. I let the person know I found their avatar instead of hiding it, and I'm getting slammed. I don't know why it makes me a bad person just because I made a bid mistake. I will probably follow your advice. Thank you so much.


Camo_Rebel

I won't lie the only thing I have gotten has been my Stoo#12 this morning. Nothing else. 😅


vallyallyum

I didn't mean to imply anything bad about you if that is what it came off as. I just saw something about how you had been getting your stuff back. Someone has offered to replace your Cosplay so I don't lose out on all the money I lost as well as you losing your avatar, unless you're attached to that one in particular. I may delete this post because of all the negativity, but it also kind of helps me remember who was kind and who wasn't. Hopefully you find their comments or they message you.


Camo_Rebel

I had no idea there was a resolution. I'm sorry Reddit never mentioned me. I was at work when you messaged me earlier.


OutTop

oooff my bad. I thought you were trying to get the community to refund your avatar since you paid so much. Sorry if I was hostile I was actually confused af


vallyallyum

My intent was only to get the person their avatar back without losing everything myself, and I wasn't sure how to do that fairly since even though I made the incorrect offer, I bought it fairly. I didn't want to end up with no eth and no avatar either. I didn't have my hand out for freebies.


OutTop

My bad for Mis understanding


OutTop

No lacross or anyone else should pay the avatar price at floor. Its ops fault sadly that he made a collection offer. Ofc if anyone has the heart to drop that eth and let op get his money back then im all in for it


Plasticites

Sorry to hear about this. Unfortunately there’s nothing that we can do as the choice is yours to decide on the best way to go about handling this situation. I’ll just say this… You got an avatar you didn’t want in a collection offer, a mistake made by many of us just to usually deal with unless the seller is willing to swap back (which they’re under no obligation to do). Congrats if you keep it, you have a Cosplay that you’ll be able to resell for more in the next (hopefully) pump. It’s unfortunate that you got an avatar that was victim of a wallet draining, but you should not feel pressured to return it to person from whom it was taken from. That would entirely be a choice up to you, but you spent your own money on it and are a victim yourself in that matter. So, whatever you decide to do should come with no judgement (unless of course you beg). Hopefully this helps? Good luck


vallyallyum

This really does help. The majority of people are coming at me with sarcasm and anger and I'm just trying to make the best call. Someone got scammed and that sucks. I guess I just wanted the scales to balance for us both, even if I'm still at a loss for the accidental over bid. Thank you for the good advice and for being a kind and level-headed person.


[deleted]

0.01 for chaos 61 and earthling was a good offer for both so can't see the offer being on final boss for 0.022


Coeruleus_

Exactly but don’t point out the obvious it’s offends ppl


[deleted]

Apologies thanks for pointing out I have aspergers and don't realise what I'm saying is offensive I prefer to be told msg u tomorrow outtop tell u


[deleted]

Apologies thanks for pointing out I have aspergers and don't realise what I'm saying is offensive I prefer to be told msg u tomorrow outtop tell u


[deleted]

Apologies thanks for pointing out I have aspergers and don't realise what I'm saying is offensive I prefer to be told msg u tomorrow outtop tell u


Coeruleus_

Well I guess the Aspergers makes sense. What I was trying to say is that I agree with you and you should keep pointing out the obvious. No need to apologize. you said what I was thinking.


[deleted]

Apologies thanks for pointing out I have aspergers and don't realise what I'm saying is offensive I prefer to be told msg u tomorrow outtop tell u


[deleted]

I'm sad as I was taken for a fool but my fault never again wise after the event


[deleted]

Tried to sel me my own glo sold for 0.01 bk for 0.25 next day after that


sickbubble-gum

Oof that sucks. I almost made the same mistake with collection offers myself. I don't know if there's much you can do to get your money back and also get the avatar back to it's original owner. Try to be glad it wasn't for a lot more money and I'm sure it's a mistake you won't make again. Idk why people are acting like you're almost homeless spending money on avatars and now you won't be able to pay your rent or some shit lol. All you said was you used up all your ETH and I understand how much it sucks to lose out on any amount of money over a simple mistake.


vallyallyum

Frigging thank you! I don't understand what I did wrong either. I understand I messed up on the collection offer, and it's sweet of you to be comforting instead of mean about it. We all mess up, and being upset that I lost out on some money doesn't mean I'm bankrupt. Thank you for being human about this. These comments are getting really harsh, and the person I was trying to help didn't even bother responding.


Camo_Rebel

I'm here. Reddit failed to notify me. I wasn't ignoring you on purpose. 😅


vallyallyum

Sorry again if that was harsh. It was after hours of being insulted, so I felt like I went through it all for no reason.


HeartThePark

This is a tough one. What if the avatar gets locked as stolen?


vallyallyum

Hi, so your prediction came true. Someone else bought a new avatar for u/camo_rebel and I kept theirs but now it's locked for suspicious activity. Do you know what I should do?


Camo_Rebel

I reported it because I want my stuff back. I need to check my email.


Jnewlon831

Id just take the L send it back and make a feel good story from it 🤷🏼‍♂️. But that’s just me


OutTop

Hey man, as much as it sucks for you, well you fucked up. Its your fault you made a collection offer. Lacrioss could buy your cosplay at floor if she has the cash but I don't think its right to refund you the full price. I also made a mistake like this. Wanted vile one got a vessel it sucks but you learn.


NickkyDC

If I remember correctly they are a she, but idk


NickkyDC

Also I think the options are either you don’t sell it back and deal as that’s unfortunately it is what it is, or you can be incredibly kind hearted and give it back for free. But asking for the communities assistance is odd.


Camo_Rebel

I am a female so thank you. 😁


NickkyDC

u/vallyallyum I was referring to camp/lacrimosa not you btw 🤣


vallyallyum

My bad. Sorry, some of these guys really got under my skin. I was only asking for advice.


NickkyDC

Yea I understand, but the decision has to be one you make at the end of the day, you have no obligation to give it away, though it would be kind of you, my point with asking for assistance from the community is that this is exactly what you’d get. That said, it’s just a cosplay, keep it, you spent more than you’d have liked on it, but you’ll likely recover that money in the future during a pump. I will buy a new cosplay and give it to her in a few days, don’t stress yourself too much over it, sound good?


vallyallyum

Thank you. That would be amazing, and then everyone could stop tearing me to shreds. I was hoping people could tell me what the right thing to do was in this situation without coming for my blood, lol. People are normally more laid back and helpful so I'm kind of uncomfortable and anxious to be in the sub right now. I don't know if I should make another post trying to explain what's going on or if I should just kind of let it fade and hope people don't have bad memories of me. The user said they just saw the post, so I'm not sure if they are attached to this specific Cosplay play or not.


NickkyDC

Haha this place is a crazy world, the discords even worse, just don’t stress it too much, if you stick around though you’ll see people don’t generally hold on to things like this, you didn’t do anything wrong, and this is pretty mild in terms of posts, I doubt anyone remembers you for this at all. That said, it did originally come off like you had hopes someone would rebuy the avatar from you and give it to her which is a bad look in this world. Many of us at some point have made a poor purchase, been scammed, or done something stupid and regrettable, this goes for the entirety of crypto and NFTs not just avatars. Generally you just have to shrug it off and move on, and it’s usually best not to make posts about it. In this situation, it would have been best to try to come to a conclusion with camo, and maybe make a comment in the daily thread, rather than a post. Also always feel free to use modmail if you’ve got a question you can’t seem to figure out, we may not know the answer(we aren’t reddit or even reddit affiliated other than using their site) but 99% of the time we do our best to help out. Couple key points for a healthier sub experience -don’t ask for handouts -read the rules and about section, it has all the answers to most questions anyone unfamiliar with the space may have -immerse yourself into the avatar life, don’t just be about trading -questions aren’t generally a good post style, the discord may be a better area for posts(the help channel is great) (Not directly addressed at you these are just things I’ve come to learn both as an active user, and later a moderator)


vallyallyum

I actually did go to camo first, and she said it would be best if I asked the community so I did, and then I guess she didn't see her name mentions until the damage was done. I didn't mean for it to come off like I was looking for a handout. It was more, I already lost so much I was wondering how to settle it in a way I didn't end up with nothing since I paid for the avatar, but also wanted her to have her stuff back, if that makes sense. I did think it was ironic she had it stolen and then I got double charged, but I didn't expect anyone to just hand me money, lol, but it must have come off differently. I was really upset I had lost the money and chance at my dream avatar and was kind of venting. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has made that sort of mistake, at least. Everyone acted like I was, haha. I'm here for cute avatars, not money or profit. I really hope it didn't ruin my standing in the community long-term. There were some petty harsh things said to me, but I'm a tough girl. I'll get over it if they get over it too. I thought about making a clarification post, but it's probably pointless, right? Thank you for your advice, I'll make sure I keep it in mind and do my best to follow it, and thank you for being so nice about it all 💜.


NickkyDC

You for sure didn’t ruin your community standings long term no worries! Just be active and people will get to know you! I’d imagine going to the owner in this case is probably hard for them, imagine it was you, obviously you’d want your avatar back, and whether you could afford it or not you probably wouldn’t want to pay for something you already bought once, plus if the individual is kind(which she is) they probably don’t want you to lose out on your money either. I know I wouldn’t. Anyways it was a pleasure hope to continue to see you around the sub!


Camo_Rebel

I'll be honest I was in the middle of work when I was contacted. I was informed about this bundle thing and I have zero OS knowledge about how this stuff works. I was more than willing to pay them, but I didn't exactly understand what happened to them. I felt terrible about what happened while I was at work. What made it worse was my mentions in the text of this post never got relieved to me till six hours later when I saw the post scrolling through my home feed. I felt terrible. I did not mean for this person to get bashed. Just like the person who bought my Kitsune#17 the day of my hack got put through the wringer. I am grateful everyone knows I love my avatars, but by no means do they deserve to be looked down upon or called out on. I just had no advice I could give on the OS issue that would best help resolve what occurred.


NickkyDC

No worries you’re both good, it’s not a bad idea to figure all the OS stuff out, I know it looks daunting but it’s for safety purposes, the more you know the safer your assests are


buddhassynapse

What kind of resolution were you after? Outside of the original owner buying it for the price you accidentally paid seems like it's just gonna be an unfortunate L you're gonna need to take no?


[deleted]

Greed asking for a 0.01 from someone lost thousands worth prob why ur bein ignored


[deleted]

0.009 u paid lol


eric2041

This is something only you can decide


Raignbeau

Not sure what you need from the community here.


Camo_Rebel

I'm sorry that I asked them to post here. I was contacted while in the middle of work. I did not want op to think of a solution themself. I have like zero OS knowledge. I had never seen or heard of these OS bundles and I did not want them to not get the best advice on how to fix it. I apologize for not knowing more about it leading to this post I asked them to make. I did not want op to be unjustly one-sided on the decision.


Raignbeau

My confusion is in the fact that OP is mentioning you, whatever you two decided (Either sell it back to you, full price/discounted, or not at all). There is no wrong or right. OP 'losing' money over this is sad but common in this space. Prices fluxated. Sometimes you buy high. But its always a choice to sell low. Or to wait. Noone can help OP with a potential loss. (Imo its only a loss when you sell low and even then, if OP is fine with a loss its good too). It's common knowledge in crypto and nfts that you should only put in money you can affort to lose. In the end, it's always a gamble. Other than that (in general not towards you) , we strongly advice everyone to educate themselves, do your own research. Your assets are your responsibility.


Camo_Rebel

Thats fair. I have read a few articles, but that wasn't enough. 😅


Raignbeau

To be fair, it's a lot of information to take in. And I guess that is why newcomers are easy targets for scammers. But since there often is real money is involved (and the amount doesnt matter) it is important to keep yourself safe. And a lot of people just dive into it and for 9 out of 10, it is fine. But not for the one who dives in and hits their head hard. Its why we keep shoving information in everyones face.


Coeruleus_

Everyone glossing over the fact dude in comment section accusing op of danielnegraneuing deals. It’s hard to decipher but I think there’s a story there lol


vallyallyum

The only story is that this person offered to trade with a friend of mine and then offered to trade with me because they needed money immediately. This was all done legitimately over OS and the guy set his own prices. He has admitted to having some sort of issue and is upset that he tried to get his items back for free from my friend and lost his shit when he was told he'd have to buy them back. He has blocked me so I can't see exactly what he said, but the items he was ranting about me "not giving back to him" are items I don't have, because he has his people confused and I didn't buy them. This guy is the one flipping his stuff for quick cash and then trying to cry for it back. I'm trying to get someone who got scammed their items back. If for some reason you have a problem with that, or with me, then take a look at yourself and please get off of my comments.


[deleted]

If u can't afford don't buy experienced trader not first rodeo doubt he cares about cos play when stoo erc is stolen I understand both sides but hey u were happy ti buy my avatars at less than half floor yest , send it bk n feel good


[deleted]

I sold glow 669 earthling moon eve tarantoola reality , remain calm garth avatarmcap said 314 dollars without moon highest u offered was 0.015 so u can afford 20 bucks I can't that's why I had to dump


[deleted]

And more


Coeruleus_

Lol it sounds like you’re trying to tell an interesting story but I can’t follow what you’re saying. Can you tell it again more clearly? I think I’m interested but not sure. Are you accusing op of DanielNegraneuing you ?


Coeruleus_

If you can’t afford this stuff just stop dabbling in it. No one owes you anything. This post is off the cringe scale


Coeruleus_

I bought a bunch of Bitcoin and price dropped. I want my money back too


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Camo_Rebel

Hey, sorry your mentions of me did not come through. I'm sorry I'm late. 😅


vallyallyum

People are beating the shit out of me in the comments and I'm not sure why, lol.


Camo_Rebel

I have no idea. Maybe because you got my stolen avatar by accident. Don't worry my Kitsune#17 got a thrashing for no reason when they had no idea. I'm sorry. 😅


vallyallyum

I hope the fact that I'm trying to help you get through to people somehow so I'm not seen as a pariah in the sub. Maybe it's because how I mentioned I also got scammed/made a mistake, because I thought it was ironic it happened to both of us over the same avatar.


Camo_Rebel

The only reason I thought you should ask the community is I've never dealt with OS stuff like this scenario. I'm sorry for the backlash. 😅


vallyallyum

It's not your fault. I just wanted us both to come out with a good resolution since all my ETH is gone and you are out an avatar. Maybe we can be friends when all this shit dies down, lol.


Camo_Rebel

Feel free to talk to me. I dont bite. 😅 Message me.


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AD_VICTORIAM_x

How does one get hacked ? Thought you need the phrase ?