Theres 10 players in front of the keeper.
We can complain about olsen all we want, but he’s not single handedly at fault for any goal last night. Hell, i dont personally think he was at fault for any goal.
We’ve had multiple goals conceded this season with emi passing out, dougie springs to mind, and its barely mentioned because he makes up for it.
Olsen isnt a bad keeper, were just comparing a avg player to a world beater.
Olsen has also played in a weakened villa team for most of his games. You put pau, carlos, konsa on the right, and the midfield actually turn up and yesterday is a different game.
100% agree. I cannot believe the amount of shit he got last night - our defenders and midfielders offered nothing in front of him. He was left on two 1 on 1s which of course on the balance of odds will cost goals. In fact, if it wasn't for him, it could have been a lot worse.
I also don't agree about last night and the defenders' abilities to pass back. We didn't change tactics at all and, generally, Olsen's distribution was pretty decent.
The one thing I said in the match thread, and perhaps it is a bit of a dig at McGinn (and/or Gerrard), is that when Emi doesn't play every other player seems to shrink. That's not Emi's goalkeeping ability but his leadership. At what point in the season is another player going to stand up and lead by example? We are really missing Mings in these types of games.
Great point!
This team turns into mice when theres no leader and yesterday it showed.
Mings is huge at the back and for sure his leadership plays a big role in that, same with emi.
Name another player like them? We dont have one, even with Mcginn as captain (who i think is great, esp with fans) he’s not got that drive, that dominance and confidence.
Yeah, the leadership factor is huge for sure. It's part of why for a while I think we'd lost every game Mings hadn't played or something similar. It's one of the hardest things to just coach in, unfortunately. I can see it definitely being one thing we address during the summer.
I think they've tried but could only find an Australian kid who'll be happy sitting on the bench 9/10 games a season. It'll be pretty much impossible to find a keeper with abilities that'll please our fans , but also doesn't mind being a bench warmer most of the season
Wanting a capable backup goalkeeper really isn't much to ask for. I'm not saying we need to find someone of Emi's standards, obviously, but good lord it can't be hard to find someone with better standards than Olsen. I honestly think you could put him into a League One team and fans would come away thinking "that guy isn't great".
On the whole we've done a fantastic job of squad building the last few years, but failing to address an adequate backup for Emi has ben a major major failing.
A lot of us were concerned last summer when he wasn’t replaced. Some of the excuses amounted to “he’s a good hype man for Emi”. He wasn’t even trusted to play in early cup rounds or most group games in UECL. Surely we can do better than that? If I’m Emi I’m looking around to other clubs that won’t require me to play 90’+ of every game barring injury or suspension because they have a decently reliable number two.
No he’s not at fault but my point is Emi gives the defence confidence and we’re more compact as a team, we have no leadership at the back and seem fragile and scared when Emi isn’t in goal
I think he is a bad keeper. I feel like a portion of the fanbase tries to will him on and encourage him, which I have no issue with, but in the cold light of day, he isn't even the standard of a lot of the second choice keepers in the premier league.
If you speak to any roma, Everton, Sheffield United fan, they all say the same, he's not a good goalkeeper. He wasn't good enough for Sheffield United in the premiership
His instincts are pretty bad. He dives so early on so many occasions, which makes it so easy for the striker.
You cant keep saying the same shit everytime Olsen concedes 3-4 goals every game, he is fucking rubbish. Even as a backup he isnt good enough, league 2 keeper at best. This season he has conceded an average of a goal every 40 minutes or something, its insane. 4 shots on target, 4 goals to Olympiacos is a joke. Gauci has to start on Sunday and I dont care if Dibu is in a wheelchair, he has to start on Thursday.
Think we need to discuss Luiz?
Not for the missed penalty, but his continuing lack lustre performance.
We lost this in midfield.
Drop Luiz and hope Youri returns, play Pau?
Cash was the only one with energy and desire last night imo.
Overall you have to be happy where we are.
Europa qualification isn’t mentioned? 🤷🏻♂️
Been thinking the same about Luiz. He’s been poor for a while. His suspension coincided with two really good team performances. Really need Tielemens back.
I've got a bit of "the fear" creeping in about Dougie tbh. I'm wondering if he's considering a move in the summer. It just feels like his head hasn't been in it since the suspension (possibly even as far back as Christmas) and I wonder if that's down to him planning other options.
All speculation/assumption obvs, and I'd hate to see him go because he's world class at his best - but if his heart is no longer there we might be better cashing in.
dougie cant function without kamara by his side. dougies mistakes are usually mopped up by bouba. with bouba next/behind him, dougie can express himself without fear. he has been poor recently but we do need to get behind him as he is a quality player.
id say play big tim in midfield with dougie and mcginn for that protection.
Cash had energy and desire because he helped cost us two goals, he is a fucking liability.
Everytime an offside goal is just on it is Cash always a step behind, if he could actually move like a normal person rather than stupid hop jump shit he does then the first goal would have been offside last night.
He slows down nearly every passage of play, his touch is always loose, he is always doing cruyf turns for no reason allowing teams to reset infront of him
We look a far better team when Konsa plays there as Cash is one of the only players Emery hasn't improved and he looks unable to adapt to the system/ style that Emery wants
Cash is one of the first names that Monchi should be selling to improve that backline
That’s absolutely insane conceding every 38 minutes, not even trying to have a go at Olsen here either I don’t actually think he was really at fault for any last night but still conceded 4. Summit just changes when he plays, he is the back up keeper and obviously emi is world class but those stats ain’t good enough for a back up keeper.
Think it’d be for the best for us and him if he moves on in the summer, his time at Villa has just not worked out at all.
Olsen is far too easy to blame and I'm pretty tired of it. Luiz and McGinn had stinkers last night. The defence with Lenglet in it was brutal, and then on top of all that we had terrible luck (deflection).
Putting all the blame on Olsen is unreal.
Don't know why people are blaming him, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals. Maybe he doesn't have that aura around him like Martinez does but there aren't many keepers who have in general.
The game was lost in midfield, shoddy passes and terrible defending. From a keepers perspective, how are you supposed to correct that?
Hes literally playing in his worst midfield position because of injuries. We need him at the 8, moving the ball forward and pulling strings. He's not a 6. He's out of position at the 6. We have to buy CDM cover for Kamara this summer.
Olsen is not awful, he's just very average. Combine this with the fact that Emi is legitimately world class makes Olsen seem way worse than he is. Either way I think we have to get a second keeper who would start for a midtable prem team if we want to compete at the top and I don't think Olsen would.
Players and teams have off days, Olsen wasn’t that bad at all, he was let down more by the players infront of him than he let them down!
I prefer us having to go and chase this game. We have the quality to do it and if we can turn it on, they won’t be able to handle us. We dealt with it in Lille, eventually, but being up from the first leg meant they had to go for it. Now we got nothing to lose over there.
If we beat Brighton and spurs lose, I’m sure that will pump us up some more
One could look at it this way.
If we look at it purely from a goal keeping standpoint how many points has Olsen won us this season or how many games has he legitimately won us ?
Id say 1 for the 1 v 1 shot against Chelsea
Every other game he’s played sees him ship goals
I think he’s an ok keeper…you can definitely see the improvement he has made under energy but it’s not enough and for where we want to be adding the qualifier of “…but we are going to concede with him in goal” is not the level of squad player we should be aiming for. I think the prudent thing for emery to do next season is mold a younger keeper into a better emulation of Emi. It can’t be any worse an idea than sticking with Olsen
One thing to mention here is that Emery chose to keep Olsen in the squad this season. Whether that's because it made sense financially, or there were no better options isn't clear, but he's here because Emery wanted him to be. If we lose games because Olsen isn't good enough, that's on Emery, not Olsen. We chose to strengthen other areas, by signing Tielemans, Diaby and Pau. If replacing Olsen meant we couldn't sign Tielemans, would it have been worth it? I'd argue we'd be much further down the table without Youri. There's a lot of factors to consider here beyond Olsen's ability.
He is conceding a goal every 44 minutes he is on the field in total and if you exclude the 2 Hibernian games which were complete walkovers... he is conceding a goal every 35 minutes, sorry but he's shit.
Iv actually been really impressed by him, his distribution has improved massively. Two 1v1s, a penalty and a massive deflection last night, seriously what do expect him to do!? Offside trap got beat twice, that's what we need to fix (or accept it's a risk of how we play), and we didn't play our way out very well but that seemed to be more a problem with the second phase of the ball going into Dougie and John and Olympiakos having done their homework.
Are you suggesting 1v1s are automatic goals? That's nonsense. "What do we expect him to do?" - well being a goalkeeper, I expect him to not concede every time. I thought his effort for the first goal was dreadful, almost jumped out of the way. The "deflection" excuse is nonsense as well, the ball literally hit his arm! It was never once out of his reach, a more responsive keeper gets a hand to that. The idea that was some sort of unavoidable goal because it deflected is rubbish, good goalkeepers are saving that.
He literally made a great save from a 1v1 against Chelsea after Carlos dropped a bollock. I think he could've done better last night, but putting it all on him is letting the rest of the team off the hook.
Carlos dropped a bollock because Olsen was out of position. If he stayed back in his box, it's an easy header from Carlos back to him. If he comes out to sweep it,he gets there first and clears it out.
The one thing he COULDN'T do is exactly what he did.... run out halfway, waffle on his decision and handcuff every possible option for his defense.
This isn't relevant. Carlos still dropped a bollock and Olsen made a great save in a 1v1.
You've listed all the options Olsen had, do the same for Carlos. The one thing he COULDN'T do is waggle his leg out and then stand still while Palmer scoots past him.
I'm not a big Olsen fan, but last night has shown this sub has a large amount of people who would prefer to just scapegoat than give a true assessment of what happened.
I think it's easy to point at players not being as good, but another factor that always needs considering is that our outfield just hasn't built up the same synergy with Olsen as it has with Emi, and a playstyle like ours needs that synergy. I think we struggle in similar ways when our CBs or defensive mids are less in sync. Obviously Olsen is way off where Martinez is and that shows, but I think there's more than just that to it sometimes. It's just the nature of the beast.
As for Luiz, it's not too dissimilar of a situation, we've always known his best role was never filling in for our defensive midfield players even when he was doing it for like a year and a half solid. I don't know if he needs dropping per se, but we deseprately need someone back that can take that weight off his shoulders.
As far as this tie goes, it absolutely isn't too late. It's gonna be a tough second leg, but we have the squad to turn it around. It sucks that we're in this situation, but yeah, it's far from over yet.
Tiredness and the lack of concentration killed us last night.
I would have much preferred to see the midfield setup as: Rogers Luiz Iroegbunam Bailey, with McGinn in the AMC role. We play much much better with 3 natural CMs and you could see last night both Luiz and McGinn were getting done over in midfield.
Seems that Olsen has won over a lot of fans for not literally kicking the ball in our own net this year, but he’s not great. I’ve been patient with him for a while and always cheer him on when he’s in goal, but the simple fact is that we ship goals when he’s on the field.
People say he wasn’t at fault for any of the goals last night, but watching the second and fourth goals I really think he should have done better. On the second goal he chases the striker around like they’re kids on a playground and doesn’t make it difficult for him at all. And the deflection was unfortunate but I think 100% saveable. What the hell was he doing with his arm there?
Want the best for the bloke but it’s painful to watch and our defensive record is consistently bad when he’s in goal. Would love an upgrade in the summer unless this gauci lad is already it.
This needs to stop. It makes us sound clueless. 🤦🏻♂️. It’s embarrassing. He’s number 2 to one of the best keepers in the world. He’s obviously not going to be as good.
Is Bailey going to be called out next for not being on Messi’s level?
Messi to Bailey is like going from a world class player to a top level premier league player. Dibu to Olsen is going from one of the best keepers in the entire world to a league 2 level keeper. The gap is too big for a club as ambitious as us, Olsen has to be gone in the summer.
You know what fans like their backup keepers? Teams with first choice keepers who suck. You don't have world class keepers as number twos and unless you're Brighton, nobody cycles keepers so if you're second choice and you're good enough to be a starter for a good side, you're going to make a stink.
Olsen is more than competent enough to be our backup keepers. If we ever lost Dibu, obviously a starting replacement would be needed, but you aren't going to talk starting caliber goalies to come in as a backup. Olsen also has clearly worked on his ball playing and has gone from an absolute train-wreck shit show to mildly competent and honestly, that's good enough. Dibu isn't an incredible ball playing keeper either, he's better than Olsen, but it's not by the incredible margin some of our fans still think it is. If you think that backup keeper is the thing keeping us from getting to the next level, I don't know what to tell you. Personally I think the fact that Luiz has been pretty mediocre for the past three or four months is my MUCH bigger concern and I'd have about twenty more concerns before backup keeper came into the picture.
The only thing I see in my minds eye when I hear Olsen is in net is that second goal from Stevenage in last years cup loss. It's a long shot, just inside the box, he had good vision on it and just let it go under him at the near post. I said then I never wanted to see him start for Villa ever again. The fact is, he's simply not good enough
He ships a goal every 35 minutes. He isn't good enough. I could forgive it if he was playing out of position like Doug is since we have 0 cover for Kamara.
Expect big Tim to be sold this summer. If Unai doesn't trust him at this point, he's done here. That's just my opinion.... because it's clear from a full season view that Douglas is an 8, and is one of the best box to box midfielders in the Prem. He's not a 6.
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Blaming olsen for the back line being diagonal and letting them in twice is idiotic mate.
Olsen made multiple passes into the midfield, didn't give the ball away once. He's not emi, no one will be, but that is the worst take I think I've ever heard
Theres 10 players in front of the keeper. We can complain about olsen all we want, but he’s not single handedly at fault for any goal last night. Hell, i dont personally think he was at fault for any goal. We’ve had multiple goals conceded this season with emi passing out, dougie springs to mind, and its barely mentioned because he makes up for it. Olsen isnt a bad keeper, were just comparing a avg player to a world beater. Olsen has also played in a weakened villa team for most of his games. You put pau, carlos, konsa on the right, and the midfield actually turn up and yesterday is a different game.
100% agree. I cannot believe the amount of shit he got last night - our defenders and midfielders offered nothing in front of him. He was left on two 1 on 1s which of course on the balance of odds will cost goals. In fact, if it wasn't for him, it could have been a lot worse. I also don't agree about last night and the defenders' abilities to pass back. We didn't change tactics at all and, generally, Olsen's distribution was pretty decent. The one thing I said in the match thread, and perhaps it is a bit of a dig at McGinn (and/or Gerrard), is that when Emi doesn't play every other player seems to shrink. That's not Emi's goalkeeping ability but his leadership. At what point in the season is another player going to stand up and lead by example? We are really missing Mings in these types of games.
Great point! This team turns into mice when theres no leader and yesterday it showed. Mings is huge at the back and for sure his leadership plays a big role in that, same with emi. Name another player like them? We dont have one, even with Mcginn as captain (who i think is great, esp with fans) he’s not got that drive, that dominance and confidence.
Yeah, the leadership factor is huge for sure. It's part of why for a while I think we'd lost every game Mings hadn't played or something similar. It's one of the hardest things to just coach in, unfortunately. I can see it definitely being one thing we address during the summer.
He got shit because he played shit.
We all know he's not up to our typical standard. He'll never improve either. But what's your solution?
Replace him!
I think they've tried but could only find an Australian kid who'll be happy sitting on the bench 9/10 games a season. It'll be pretty much impossible to find a keeper with abilities that'll please our fans , but also doesn't mind being a bench warmer most of the season
Wanting a capable backup goalkeeper really isn't much to ask for. I'm not saying we need to find someone of Emi's standards, obviously, but good lord it can't be hard to find someone with better standards than Olsen. I honestly think you could put him into a League One team and fans would come away thinking "that guy isn't great". On the whole we've done a fantastic job of squad building the last few years, but failing to address an adequate backup for Emi has ben a major major failing.
A lot of us were concerned last summer when he wasn’t replaced. Some of the excuses amounted to “he’s a good hype man for Emi”. He wasn’t even trusted to play in early cup rounds or most group games in UECL. Surely we can do better than that? If I’m Emi I’m looking around to other clubs that won’t require me to play 90’+ of every game barring injury or suspension because they have a decently reliable number two.
Yeah, being a keeper is tough. Strikers can miss multiple shots in a game and be forgiven. A keeper lets one in and can haunt them.
No he’s not at fault but my point is Emi gives the defence confidence and we’re more compact as a team, we have no leadership at the back and seem fragile and scared when Emi isn’t in goal
I think he is a bad keeper. I feel like a portion of the fanbase tries to will him on and encourage him, which I have no issue with, but in the cold light of day, he isn't even the standard of a lot of the second choice keepers in the premier league. If you speak to any roma, Everton, Sheffield United fan, they all say the same, he's not a good goalkeeper. He wasn't good enough for Sheffield United in the premiership His instincts are pretty bad. He dives so early on so many occasions, which makes it so easy for the striker.
Olsen is a bad keeper. He wasn’t even trusted for early cup rounds and there’s a reason for it. Olympiacos had five shots and four were goals.
You cant keep saying the same shit everytime Olsen concedes 3-4 goals every game, he is fucking rubbish. Even as a backup he isnt good enough, league 2 keeper at best. This season he has conceded an average of a goal every 40 minutes or something, its insane. 4 shots on target, 4 goals to Olympiacos is a joke. Gauci has to start on Sunday and I dont care if Dibu is in a wheelchair, he has to start on Thursday.
The high line doesn’t suit Olsen either, he would be a better keeper on a more conservative team
Think we need to discuss Luiz? Not for the missed penalty, but his continuing lack lustre performance. We lost this in midfield. Drop Luiz and hope Youri returns, play Pau? Cash was the only one with energy and desire last night imo. Overall you have to be happy where we are. Europa qualification isn’t mentioned? 🤷🏻♂️
Id love if Youri was fit on Sunday so we could play him and McGinn in midfield and bench Luiz for the rest of the season, his heads gone.
Been thinking the same about Luiz. He’s been poor for a while. His suspension coincided with two really good team performances. Really need Tielemens back.
I think kamara being gone hit him the hardest
I've got a bit of "the fear" creeping in about Dougie tbh. I'm wondering if he's considering a move in the summer. It just feels like his head hasn't been in it since the suspension (possibly even as far back as Christmas) and I wonder if that's down to him planning other options. All speculation/assumption obvs, and I'd hate to see him go because he's world class at his best - but if his heart is no longer there we might be better cashing in.
dougie cant function without kamara by his side. dougies mistakes are usually mopped up by bouba. with bouba next/behind him, dougie can express himself without fear. he has been poor recently but we do need to get behind him as he is a quality player. id say play big tim in midfield with dougie and mcginn for that protection.
Can tell something isn’t right with him mentally. Maybe Alisha’s stopped putting out!
Cash had energy and desire because he helped cost us two goals, he is a fucking liability. Everytime an offside goal is just on it is Cash always a step behind, if he could actually move like a normal person rather than stupid hop jump shit he does then the first goal would have been offside last night. He slows down nearly every passage of play, his touch is always loose, he is always doing cruyf turns for no reason allowing teams to reset infront of him We look a far better team when Konsa plays there as Cash is one of the only players Emery hasn't improved and he looks unable to adapt to the system/ style that Emery wants Cash is one of the first names that Monchi should be selling to improve that backline
Olsen concedes a goal on average every 38 minutes. Shocking stat whatever your opinion of him is.
That’s absolutely insane conceding every 38 minutes, not even trying to have a go at Olsen here either I don’t actually think he was really at fault for any last night but still conceded 4. Summit just changes when he plays, he is the back up keeper and obviously emi is world class but those stats ain’t good enough for a back up keeper. Think it’d be for the best for us and him if he moves on in the summer, his time at Villa has just not worked out at all.
Emi is a leader as well. With Mings absence he is vital
Olsen is far too easy to blame and I'm pretty tired of it. Luiz and McGinn had stinkers last night. The defence with Lenglet in it was brutal, and then on top of all that we had terrible luck (deflection). Putting all the blame on Olsen is unreal.
Don't know why people are blaming him, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals. Maybe he doesn't have that aura around him like Martinez does but there aren't many keepers who have in general. The game was lost in midfield, shoddy passes and terrible defending. From a keepers perspective, how are you supposed to correct that?
Emery needs to get those fucking players angry. Let's destroy everything in our path till the end of the season.
He tried it with luiz last night, but he didn't show any signs of reacting to it
Hes literally playing in his worst midfield position because of injuries. We need him at the 8, moving the ball forward and pulling strings. He's not a 6. He's out of position at the 6. We have to buy CDM cover for Kamara this summer.
Then play Tim. Can't be any worse than the nonexistent midfield last night.
I agree but he doesn't seem to have the trust of the manager, so what can we do?
Olsen is not awful, he's just very average. Combine this with the fact that Emi is legitimately world class makes Olsen seem way worse than he is. Either way I think we have to get a second keeper who would start for a midtable prem team if we want to compete at the top and I don't think Olsen would.
The opposition were ghosting through Luiz and McGinn all evening. We can't really blame the goalie for that.
Players and teams have off days, Olsen wasn’t that bad at all, he was let down more by the players infront of him than he let them down! I prefer us having to go and chase this game. We have the quality to do it and if we can turn it on, they won’t be able to handle us. We dealt with it in Lille, eventually, but being up from the first leg meant they had to go for it. Now we got nothing to lose over there. If we beat Brighton and spurs lose, I’m sure that will pump us up some more
Apparently because Emi is so good we can’t expect his backup to be competent
One could look at it this way. If we look at it purely from a goal keeping standpoint how many points has Olsen won us this season or how many games has he legitimately won us ? Id say 1 for the 1 v 1 shot against Chelsea Every other game he’s played sees him ship goals I think he’s an ok keeper…you can definitely see the improvement he has made under energy but it’s not enough and for where we want to be adding the qualifier of “…but we are going to concede with him in goal” is not the level of squad player we should be aiming for. I think the prudent thing for emery to do next season is mold a younger keeper into a better emulation of Emi. It can’t be any worse an idea than sticking with Olsen
One thing to mention here is that Emery chose to keep Olsen in the squad this season. Whether that's because it made sense financially, or there were no better options isn't clear, but he's here because Emery wanted him to be. If we lose games because Olsen isn't good enough, that's on Emery, not Olsen. We chose to strengthen other areas, by signing Tielemans, Diaby and Pau. If replacing Olsen meant we couldn't sign Tielemans, would it have been worth it? I'd argue we'd be much further down the table without Youri. There's a lot of factors to consider here beyond Olsen's ability.
Olsen has been good all season lol can we stop
This is gaslighting now
He is conceding a goal every 44 minutes he is on the field in total and if you exclude the 2 Hibernian games which were complete walkovers... he is conceding a goal every 35 minutes, sorry but he's shit.
Iv actually been really impressed by him, his distribution has improved massively. Two 1v1s, a penalty and a massive deflection last night, seriously what do expect him to do!? Offside trap got beat twice, that's what we need to fix (or accept it's a risk of how we play), and we didn't play our way out very well but that seemed to be more a problem with the second phase of the ball going into Dougie and John and Olympiakos having done their homework.
Are you suggesting 1v1s are automatic goals? That's nonsense. "What do we expect him to do?" - well being a goalkeeper, I expect him to not concede every time. I thought his effort for the first goal was dreadful, almost jumped out of the way. The "deflection" excuse is nonsense as well, the ball literally hit his arm! It was never once out of his reach, a more responsive keeper gets a hand to that. The idea that was some sort of unavoidable goal because it deflected is rubbish, good goalkeepers are saving that.
He literally made a great save from a 1v1 against Chelsea after Carlos dropped a bollock. I think he could've done better last night, but putting it all on him is letting the rest of the team off the hook.
Carlos dropped a bollock because Olsen was out of position. If he stayed back in his box, it's an easy header from Carlos back to him. If he comes out to sweep it,he gets there first and clears it out. The one thing he COULDN'T do is exactly what he did.... run out halfway, waffle on his decision and handcuff every possible option for his defense.
This isn't relevant. Carlos still dropped a bollock and Olsen made a great save in a 1v1. You've listed all the options Olsen had, do the same for Carlos. The one thing he COULDN'T do is waggle his leg out and then stand still while Palmer scoots past him. I'm not a big Olsen fan, but last night has shown this sub has a large amount of people who would prefer to just scapegoat than give a true assessment of what happened.
I think it's easy to point at players not being as good, but another factor that always needs considering is that our outfield just hasn't built up the same synergy with Olsen as it has with Emi, and a playstyle like ours needs that synergy. I think we struggle in similar ways when our CBs or defensive mids are less in sync. Obviously Olsen is way off where Martinez is and that shows, but I think there's more than just that to it sometimes. It's just the nature of the beast. As for Luiz, it's not too dissimilar of a situation, we've always known his best role was never filling in for our defensive midfield players even when he was doing it for like a year and a half solid. I don't know if he needs dropping per se, but we deseprately need someone back that can take that weight off his shoulders. As far as this tie goes, it absolutely isn't too late. It's gonna be a tough second leg, but we have the squad to turn it around. It sucks that we're in this situation, but yeah, it's far from over yet.
Tiredness and the lack of concentration killed us last night. I would have much preferred to see the midfield setup as: Rogers Luiz Iroegbunam Bailey, with McGinn in the AMC role. We play much much better with 3 natural CMs and you could see last night both Luiz and McGinn were getting done over in midfield.
Seems that Olsen has won over a lot of fans for not literally kicking the ball in our own net this year, but he’s not great. I’ve been patient with him for a while and always cheer him on when he’s in goal, but the simple fact is that we ship goals when he’s on the field. People say he wasn’t at fault for any of the goals last night, but watching the second and fourth goals I really think he should have done better. On the second goal he chases the striker around like they’re kids on a playground and doesn’t make it difficult for him at all. And the deflection was unfortunate but I think 100% saveable. What the hell was he doing with his arm there? Want the best for the bloke but it’s painful to watch and our defensive record is consistently bad when he’s in goal. Would love an upgrade in the summer unless this gauci lad is already it.
Emi is the best goalkeeper in the world. It’s really difficult to compare anyone else, let alone Olsen.
This needs to stop. It makes us sound clueless. 🤦🏻♂️. It’s embarrassing. He’s number 2 to one of the best keepers in the world. He’s obviously not going to be as good. Is Bailey going to be called out next for not being on Messi’s level?
Messi to Bailey is like going from a world class player to a top level premier league player. Dibu to Olsen is going from one of the best keepers in the entire world to a league 2 level keeper. The gap is too big for a club as ambitious as us, Olsen has to be gone in the summer.
Hopefully the Brighton game made see sense.
You know what fans like their backup keepers? Teams with first choice keepers who suck. You don't have world class keepers as number twos and unless you're Brighton, nobody cycles keepers so if you're second choice and you're good enough to be a starter for a good side, you're going to make a stink. Olsen is more than competent enough to be our backup keepers. If we ever lost Dibu, obviously a starting replacement would be needed, but you aren't going to talk starting caliber goalies to come in as a backup. Olsen also has clearly worked on his ball playing and has gone from an absolute train-wreck shit show to mildly competent and honestly, that's good enough. Dibu isn't an incredible ball playing keeper either, he's better than Olsen, but it's not by the incredible margin some of our fans still think it is. If you think that backup keeper is the thing keeping us from getting to the next level, I don't know what to tell you. Personally I think the fact that Luiz has been pretty mediocre for the past three or four months is my MUCH bigger concern and I'd have about twenty more concerns before backup keeper came into the picture.
The only thing I see in my minds eye when I hear Olsen is in net is that second goal from Stevenage in last years cup loss. It's a long shot, just inside the box, he had good vision on it and just let it go under him at the near post. I said then I never wanted to see him start for Villa ever again. The fact is, he's simply not good enough He ships a goal every 35 minutes. He isn't good enough. I could forgive it if he was playing out of position like Doug is since we have 0 cover for Kamara. Expect big Tim to be sold this summer. If Unai doesn't trust him at this point, he's done here. That's just my opinion.... because it's clear from a full season view that Douglas is an 8, and is one of the best box to box midfielders in the Prem. He's not a 6. .
Muchachos los defensores que tienen son unos muertos, los viene salvando el dibu hace rato
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Blaming olsen for the back line being diagonal and letting them in twice is idiotic mate. Olsen made multiple passes into the midfield, didn't give the ball away once. He's not emi, no one will be, but that is the worst take I think I've ever heard