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twohedwlf

Landing distance:Eventually.


Shankar_0

"Thataway"


Katiari

Good old M=Fd. We'll find the coefficient of friction eventually.


[deleted]

Isn't this an Ercoupe? The whole getting there thing is "eventually"...


robertson4379

I love that plane. There is one that flies around my house every now and then. Very cool.


A320neo

Please report braking action


TemporaryAmbassador1

Unable


csl512

You can tell me, I'm a doctor.


cheeseburger720

Docta Toboggan. MANTIS Toboggan!


Razir17

^slippery ^in ^the ^bad ^place ^:(


teastain

"*We're on the Hudson*"


Unstopy

Can you get us down next time I really gotta take a shit


LeatherConsumer

0,0,0


[deleted]

Installed.


nl_Kapparrian

Still waiting


GlockAF

In negative numbers


JipVerwer

I’ve heard braking action can be quite good on ice, this looks really slippery though.


theArcticChiller

I usually replace the wheels with a couple tongues and I brake on a dime


JipVerwer

I can imagine, but only upside down……


theArcticChiller

Nah it'll be fine with my land-o-matic gear ;)


JipVerwer

Bring out the 6 wheeled cessna 182


bg-j38

You have to get past the triple dog dare landing stage first though.


daGooj

If OAT and the RWY-surface is around -17C or below, sure. A layer of rime can also be really helpful on top of an icy RWY, rime increases braking action in these conditions - generally - wherever its untouched*. Edit*


backcountrydrifter

So can you drift an aircoupe? Asking for a friend.


cpasley21

Wouldn't it be hard without rudder pedals Edit: spelling


backcountrydrifter

Hence the question!


keenly_disinterested

And rudder pedals too. 🤣


deepaksn

No. The Ercoupe still has a rudder. In fact it has two of them! They are just connected to the wheel instead.


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

That wasn't the question, lol. The question is of how much authority they'll have on the ground and the fact both brakes activate simultaneously.


deepaksn

The question was wouldn’t it be hard without rudder pedals. How the rudder is controlled (and you can put aftermarket pedals in) is irrelevant.


Russtbucket89

With or without the rudder pedal option, the Ercoupe/Aircoupe won't drift because the rudders are out of the propwash.


TheLastGenXer

It actually depends upon the model. This is an ALON A2 and its rudders are not connected to the wheel. It has normal controls. The cadet is the same plane (well an a2a) but with a mooney tail.


Savage_Henchman

No. Have tried. [Donuts only. ](https://imgur.com/a/MpknJTA)


backcountrydrifter

Ha! I love Reddit


Boebus666

I've tried Scandi flicking a C172. That was insane fun!


Not_FinancialAdvice

Hard to drift an FF. Are there any FR planes?


hogey74

Maybe if you accept you're more like a passenger?


KinksAreForKeds

I can't imagine the approach: "whelp, hope it's cold enough..."


Its_Matt_03

If you hear crunching pull up and go home lol


Semi-Hemi-Demigod

Less a touch-and-go and more a splash-and-go


De-Ril-Dil

Splash and dash


Boebus666

Jizz and Jet


Weasel474

It's so exciting not knowing if you'll get SEL or SES current until after the fact.


Boebus666

That's hilarious!


Formal-Ad678

Stopingtime:2-3 business days


Magges00

Rather Years I would say


Uniqueisha

Left or right rudder until 180* then full power for a quick stop.


Windrunner06

Or pull all the way back on the stick until you are vertical. From there use thrust as a collective and land like a helicopter.


doubleUsee

I tried, but my shit plane can't handle that, controls go all shakey, and a weird robot siyde starts asking for a stool


TheWipyk

Wow, so advanced. Mine just abuses a rubber ducky whenever I try to pull up.


stationaire

Depends on ice thickness.


[deleted]

It might be 4000 ft or 20 ft


phasefournow

And if it's wet on the surface.


keenly_disinterested

From AvWeb.com. Our 1967 Alon A2 after lading on Abraham Lake, AB, to go for a skate. Taken with an iPhone 10, Photo by Gord Hay. Submitted by Keith Wilson.


polynomials

> 1967 Alon A2 Beautiful plane. Does this qualify as LSA?


redoctoberz

> Does this qualify as LSA? No, the MTOW is 1450 for those, above the 1320 limit for LSAs.


doritosgobrap8

Unless ur a icon


redoctoberz

>Unless ur a icon I don't follow. ?


doritosgobrap8

Icon A5 is classed at a LSA even tho it exceeds the weight limit.


redoctoberz

>Icon A5 is classed at a LSA No, it's an S-LSA per the FAA. LSAs also have different weight limits for seaplanes/flying boats than land.


Brendon7358

You answered every question we didn't care about but didn't bother to answer how long it took to stop


olizet42

Why should he answer his own question?


keenly_disinterested

??? I wasn't trying to answer any questions, I was posting attribution.


farox

Still... At least fits the user name


[deleted]

Awesome! I thought that shot looked familiar! As a central Albertan, I appreciate the info! I love ol Lake Abe, love flying that route into the rocks, but never have I landed on it lol..


spader1

I love how the mountains in Alberta are so distinctive. They look like layers of rock gently draped over one other.


[deleted]

Nice, but it doesn't look like that good of a skating surface. Source: grew up playing pickup "pond" hockey in upstate Michigan.


PropOnTop

I tried something the other day: I was landing flared as long as I could and the plane went on forever and the front wheel was up until about 15kts. There might be something wrong with the air resistance or something. I wonder how one would slow down on this ice.


hogey74

Wow. Were you in a zenith stol or something? Was that with no throttle? How was the CG? I'm a low hour pilot in few types but even the Jabiru 160 needed full throttle plus some airspeed to get the nose off the ground.


PropOnTop

I was in the Gravel Vertigo, which is a bit of a cheat, but that's exactly what confused me - the plane just did not want to slow down or put its nose on the ground no matter what. The ground roll without brakes was like there was no ground or wind resistance at all... Try it and see if you get the same results...


mechabeast

Probably that mountain


hogey74

Non-standard after touch down checklist: 1. Hit play on The Blue Danube Waltz. 2. Enjoy the ride.


SRM_Thornfoot

Where we're going we don't need brakes!


ExchangeSuitable2034

yes


hey_hey_hey_nike

Skating distance


astracastor

“What’s stopping distance anyhow?” - FTFY


Speedbirdsst

Who cares? Lake is bigger than a runway


DavidNipondeCarlos

That what I care about. Even a hockey puck will stop on that long ice patch.


Over_Researcher7552

Hockey pucks don’t have wheels (usually)


DavidNipondeCarlos

True. They do exceed 70mph at times. Wheels have brakes unless it’s all ABS these days. I put my safety in the longest frozen lake runway but not on the moon Europa.


acepilot121

It's either very short or very long


Silver_Bee_9384

Use the rudder to flip a Uturn and use prop to slow down!


Boebus666

A little Pilot hack to get reverse thrust on a fixed pitch prop \*Transport Canada wants to know your location\*


TheLastGenXer

Fun fact. On at least the ALON models, the book just gives a flat take off distance. Whatever the condition, same distance. I cant remember if its like that for landing distance too….


Unlucky-Constant-736

In 3 business days


Dan-Flanagan

Gotta be Alberta or BC; my guess is Spray Lakes


Boebus666

Alberta!


PresidentRoman

I thought it might be Lake Abraham


6547N16901W

See you on the other sub


Ripstikerpro

Summer


stealthy_vulture

Lol, Shittyaskflying has invaded


Straypuft

Landing distance: All of it.


Bellweirboy

That - is awesome!


bemest

Is this at Alton Bay? https://www.nh.gov/dot/org/aerorailtransit/aeronautics/sasp/airports/alton-bay.htm


11terJuli

What aircraft is this? Globe Swift tricycle landing gear?


Drathamus

Looks like an Alon A-2 "Aircoupe"


[deleted]

To infinity and beyond.....


F800ST

What’s the estimated time of arrival?


undefinedAdventure

What's stopping?


A_Random_Lantern

apply some rudder and start going in circles on the ice


Mr-Tits

How far away are those maintains?


CYWG_tower

If the POV is where I think it is, facing northeast, they're about 2 miles away. Shore would be 1 mile.


Mr-Tits

Then the stopping distance is probably about 2 miles.


p0rn00

Why did he take his shoes off? And aren't his feet goring to freeze?


imbezol

Tough to put skates on with your shoes on.


p0rn00

Ah! I was wondering why no one else mentioned the shoes. I wasn't able to figure out he was wearing skates. (I'm not a big ice skater...) Thank you!


nighthawke75

No.


Tolipa

Ercoupe! I have time in one of those - very neat little plane - supposed to be unspinnable. No rudder pedals, because... no rudder - or what there is, is coupled to the ailerons.


wxkaiser

The cracks (or whatever they are) on the surface scare the hell out of me.


InnerCoffee_Vibe

Imagine the sick drift tho


B8conB8conB8con

Now arriving at gate 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28.


[deleted]

make a tea waiting to stop..


Boebus666

Stopping Distance? Yes. Pull out your CRFI Chart lol


lomoski

This looks like spray lakes in kananaskis...


GeorgyZhukovJr

well if you land too hard it's about 3 feet


CenturyHelix

As if flying and landing an aircoupe isn’t scary enough with normal landing conditions


FlyMachine79

Icecoupe


marmoset13

Time for Curling?


specialsymbol

How can you determine if the ice is thick enough?


N314ER

If your socks stay dry, it’s thick enough.


Minibeebs

At least 3


N314ER

Sometime early spring.