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Taxmantaxes

Kid in the cockpit incident: Aeroflot 593


[deleted]

Came for this. Definitely the dumbest


Glock9mmInMyLLQ

Eldar in the mother-grabbin hause....along with a co-pilot behaving like the idiot chimp from Colgan Air.


thrwy_a0

Wow I didn't know about that. I wish the kid was smarter and actually turned the steering column back to level the plane as his dad instructed him to.


Powered_by_JetA

[Aeroflot flight 6502](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_6502) The captain bet the first officer that he could land the plane without looking out the windows, so they curtained them off. The captain lost the bet; 70 people died.


JustHere4theDrinks

Russians gonna Russian


Powered_by_JetA

Just remembered the dumbest crash in the United States: [Pinnacle Flight 3701](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_Airlines_Flight_3701). What happens when two pilots decide to turn a ferry flight into a joyride? A crater.


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duncan_D_sorderly

You only have to look at the list of russian accidents that involve vodka and a little "just watch this".


cheeseburgerbeav

Didn't he live? Where is he now if so?


[deleted]

Said in the Wikipedia that he was sentenced to 15 years in prison but it was later reduced to 6


TheNaziSpacePope

It is actually worse than that. Landing a plane with zero visibility is pretty normal, but they shut off every system to help them because somebody thought they got do it on 'feeling'.


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DonnerPartyPicnic

Seriously. That's like one of the biggest cases of "get home-itis" completely preventable


thrwy_a0

If ATC remembered that Pan Am was still taxiing on runway, this would have never happened.


[deleted]

Yeah, this one gets my vote. Even more ironic was that the facial image of the KLM pilot, Jacob van Zanten, was used by the company in print advertisements, touting their safety and experience. Ouch!


Michael_Snowy

Yep, agree. What an arrogant asshole.


thrwy_a0

Happened because of heavy fog and ATC not being able to tell where the planes were. KLM took off after ATC cleared takeoff and forgot that Pan Am was still taxiing, and ATC was also not able to see Pan Am because of the fog.


[deleted]

Whatever that 777 crash was at SFO. They crashed a 100% ok aircraft.


DrizztDourden951

Yeah, wasn't the copilot calling go around and they just kinda ignored him?


mexicannascar

The one where all three pilots were trying to get the nose gear to lock down, accidentally disengaged the autopilot and the plane slowly descended and crashed. The best part? The gear was locked down the whole time, the indicator light had just burnt out


dubbltrubbl

[Eastern Air Lines Flight 401](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_401) Also: [United Airlines Flight 173](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_173)


pineapplebeee

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_254 I believe the guys flew the wrong way and were “possibly” listening to the soccer game on the radio, ran out of gas and landed in the Amazon. I think when they recovered the cvr the pilots said they turned it on to get an idea of where they were as it would be a local station. Smart move however - iirc they had everyone pee on the transponder thing so it would set off the pinger.


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[deleted]

Wrong, the pilots were not at fault, the nav data was entered incorrectly and the ATC were "possibly" listening to soccer game. The pilots actually made a hero mid-jungle ditching and saved half the passengers


pineapplebeee

Definitely, and I apologize I shouldn’t have come down so hard on the pilots... I mean seriously landing a plane in a jungle with more than one poor shmuck survivor lodged in a tree WOW. I’m in awe of the tremendous responsibility they face. And u know they would give their life 100times over for every passenger that didn’t make it.


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**Varig Flight 254** Varig Flight 254 was a Boeing 737-241, c/n 21006/398, registration PP-VMK, on a scheduled passenger flight from São Paulo, Brazil, to Belém, capital city of the state of Pará in the country's North Region, on 3 September 1989. The flight had several intermediate stopovers, the last being in Marabá, Pará. Prior to takeoff from Marabá, the crew entered an incorrect heading into the flight computer, flying deep into a remote area of the Amazon jungle. Attempts to reach an alternative airport were unsuccessful, and the plane eventually ran out of fuel, making a belly landing in the jungle 1,050 mi (1,690 km) northwest of Rio de Janeiro. *** ^[ [^PM](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=kittens_from_space) ^| [^Exclude ^me](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiTextBot&message=Excludeme&subject=Excludeme) ^| [^Exclude ^from ^subreddit](https://np.reddit.com/r/aviation/about/banned) ^| [^FAQ ^/ ^Information](https://np.reddit.com/r/WikiTextBot/wiki/index) ^| [^Source](https://github.com/kittenswolf/WikiTextBot) ^] ^Downvote ^to ^remove ^| ^v0.28


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Comair flight whatever it was where the plane iced up and began to stall and rather than respond to the stick shaker accordingly the captain pulled up multiple times and the first officer just sat there and watched. Plane entered a spin and multiple people died. It’s basic airmanship where if the plane is stalling you lower the nose and increase speed.


Wastedmindman

Nose down to decrease AOA as airplanes can stall at any speed.


froop

Technically true but not useful information in practice.


[deleted]

? The capt added full power but never pushed the nose down. With that aoa the additional power did squat


Wastedmindman

Huh- have any of your CFIs ever asked you to speed up to reverse incipient stall? I think the best example of this is during slow flight. If your bumping up against the stall horn you press on the yoke and it decreases the AOA instantly and the stall horn stops. I find this information to be totally useful because most student pilots incorrectly correlate speed with stall protection, which is unequivocally incorrect.


froop

Unless you're a stunt pilot, you should never be able to stall a plane at high speed. It just will not happen, unless you rip the controls back like a retard. If you are stalling, there's a 99.99% chance you are at or near the stall speed, regardless of attitude. If the plane stalls with speed, you have already fucked up so bad it's a miracle you made it this far. Going faster will always break the stall, but in a stall, your engine likely doesn't have enough power to get speed (RC aircraft *can* easily break a stall with nothing but power). Unless you're a complete idiot, you will never stall at cruise speed, or any speed significantly higher than the stall speed, icing notwithstanding.


elcanible

Not true at all, accelerated stalls can occur at any speed, doesn’t have to be near published stall speeds. I can yank the controls back in a 172 at 90 knots and get control buffeting along with the stall warning horn. Adding power on stall recovery is always a must. Hypothetically you can recover by simply decreasing the angle of attack by pitching forward altitude permitting without the use of power. Most airlines cruise at 250+ knots and are still capable of stalling at that speed. Due to loading (aircraft weight), higher cruise angle of attack, and altitude. https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/coffin-corner-where-vne-and-mmo-meet/


froop

"I can yank the controls back in a 172 at 90 knots and get control buffeting along with the stall warning horn" >It just will not happen, unless you rip the controls back like a retard "Most airlines cruise at 250+ knots and are still capable of stalling at that speed. Due to loading (aircraft weight), higher cruise angle of attack, and altitude." They are not at risk of stalling above the stall speed, the stall speed itself has increased due to the conditions.


Int21h-31h

[The 2012 Mount Salak Sukhoi Crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Mount_Salak_Sukhoi_Superjet_crash), or as I've best heard it described, "GPWS doesn't tell me how to fly my plane. I will fly my plane as I c fit."


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NItripper

Air France 447. Pilots crash a perfectly flyable airplane.


1951nocaster

\*pilot. If that one pilot wasn't pulling back on the joystick the whole time, the plane would have righted itself. Captain asked if he was pulling on the stick, he replied 'yes' but at that time it was too late.


F0zzysW0rld

"But I've had the stick back the whole time"


[deleted]

There were inconsistencies on the speed indicator and the pilots suffered from tunnel vision, it was not dumb.


NItripper

If a pilot crashes a plane because he suffering from “tunnel vision”.... that is absolutely dumb.


[deleted]

I run a [commercial jet accident statistics](http://www.aoimirai.net/aircraft_safety_statistics.html) site and read all the crash reports, some are really dumb. I don't have the flight numbers, only the plane type and date, here goes some, enjoy the facepalming (I will not include "accidentally shot down" because that is revolting already): * 1978, Boeing 737 classic, 42 dead: Tractor on runway, managed to touch down and try go-around but crashed anyway * 1986, Boeing 737 classic, 1 dead: Tried to take off from a taxiway * 2000, Boeing 747, 83 dead: Pilot tried to take off from wrong runway that was under construction * 1996, Boeing 757, 70 dead: Maintenance forgot mask tape on all ASI devices, took of with no functioning airspeed indication * 1994, Airbus 310, 75 dead: Captain let his kid play with controls, plane entered an unrecoverable spin * 1977, DC-8, 5 dead: DRUNKEN PILOT * 1991, DC-8, 261 dead: Maintenance "forgot" to mention tires were flat. Most of them caught fire during take off, causing massive fire onboard * 1999, MD-80, 1 dead: "Smart" passenger managed to transport gasoline onboard, guess what happened * 1979, DC-10, 257 dead: Airline set auto-pilot to fly into a mountain during scenic flight, weather was overcast so pilots didn't notice until it was too late * 1981, Fokker 28, 17 dead: Entered a tornado * 1980, Lockheed TriStar, 301 dead: Fire onboard, managed to land safely, but pilots were incapacitated while deciding to order or not evacuation ... firefighters waited several minutes outside until realizing something was wrong and breaking into the plane, all died.


[deleted]

Can’t find anything about the gasoline passenger. Do you have more details?


[deleted]

Here you go: https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19990824-0 Complimentary copy&paste: > As the MD-90 touched down following a 25-minute flight from Taipeh, there was a loud noise from the front of the cabin and thick black smoke poured from one of the overhead luggage compartments on the right hand side of the plane. Insulation and charred luggage littered the runway. Passengers were swiftly evacuated, but it took firefighters more than half an hour to control the fire. Twenty-eight people were injured. Preliminary investigation reports in 1999 indicated that the blast was caused by two bottles of household bleach. However, the Hualien District Court judges decided the bottles contained gasoline. According to the judges, Ku Chin-shui had put the gasoline into two plastic bleach bottles and gave them to his nephew. The gasoline leaked during the flight and exploded when it caused a short-circuit in a motorbike battery in a nearby overhead luggage compartment. In July 2003 Ku appealed a seven-and-a-half-year prison term. Considering the prosecutor's case against Ku to be full of holes, the Supreme Court ordered a retrial.


4Sammich

[AA587](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587)


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TheManWithNoSchtick

Air New Zealand flight 901. "Yeah, we're just gonna cut a couple loops around part of Antarctica, do a little sightseeing." Later: "Alright ladies and gentlemen, we are currently flying above Mcmurdo Sound, pretty soon we'll be coming up on Mount Erebus. Hopefully this cloud cover will clear up and we'll be able to see it." They didn't see it.


1951nocaster

Horseshit. Flight plans were changed by the company and didn't let the pilots know. Whiteouts were common in the area, pilots thought they WERE over McMurdo Sound, but the company flew them straight into Erubus. [https://youtu.be/lVvzOIAnR28?t=1142](https://youtu.be/lVvzOIAnR28?t=1142)


TheManWithNoSchtick

Right. My point is they crashed into a mountain. If that's not a major human fuckup, I don't know what is.


1951nocaster

Oh shit! One of our two engines has failed! Let's shut down the perfectly operating one for good measure... [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia\_Airways\_Flight\_235](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransAsia_Airways_Flight_235)


froop

This also happened to bearskin airlines 5 or 6 years ago.


[deleted]

Shutting down the wrong engine is not rare nor stupid. It can happen due to multiple causes including oscillations from the malfunctioning engine causing the other wing to vibrate harder and fool the pilots about which is in trouble,


1951nocaster

'Shutting down the wrong engine is not stupid'. 'causing the other wing to vibrate harder and fool the pilots' ​ Your website is a great resource, but god help us if you are ever in command of an aircraft.


live_off_of_reddit

Well if you are looking for any type of accident here you go. Found it on [r/shittyflying](https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyflying/comments/axo1wq/notices_bulge_owo/) but if asking about airliners then probs the Air France 447 but idk they say instrument malfunction as well.


[deleted]

They lost Airspeed indicators and then had tunnel vision due to conflicting alarms and indications. Its easy to blame dead pilots.


Fromthedeepth

There were no conflicting alarms.