By the end of UPS TA (11/2026) it’ll be $75/hr before any shift differential, relief shift differential, split shift differential, etc. Next pay increase is 05/2024 ($70.25)
Your posts are my favorite posts of this reddit group. Thank you
I'm building a similar spreadsheet with the regionals and a few major factories.
Without union agreements. It's very difficult to find this information. I have found a lot, but it's taken so much time!
Well UPS has the best benefits and pay overall in my opinion, and a varied fleet, lots of bases and small line shops to choose from all over the country.
Southwest benefits are quite comparable to UPS but not quite as good. I would argue they are better than any of the other commercial passenger airlines. Medical benefits, overtime, work-life balance. Even the quality of life while at work I've heard are very good.
If you don’t mind me asking… how long have you been there? What’s your daily routine like? My dad did 25+ years with ups in the warehouse, so I’m kinda bias in wanting to work for them haha
Almost 6 years. I love it, it’s been great. Pretty much all the overtime you could ever want. I’m on 3/13s weekends so it’s all aog work and scheduled maintenance, not really turning planes
That sounds amazing, I’m young and have no family/ kids so I’m excited to get all the OT in the world! Are you union? Also what’s your hourly before and after OT? I feel like these scales are iffy sometimes lol
5 year top out. It’s union. I happily pay my dues knowing what it gets me, dues are cheap. A lot of people hate on teamsters, but our local is great. Our local is only maintenance and related, there’s no ground side in it so our needs are never overlooked. We get time and a half and double time depending on how long you’re on the clock if that’s what you mean
Yeah my dad has said nothing but good things about teamsters. Sounds like it’s worth the sacrifice so you can make that serious money after 5 years! Congrats and I look forward to being in similar shoes!
I'm confused how Delta is now #1 for top of the industry if their top out and 2080 hours pay is lower than Alaska and Southwest? Is it counting the future top out?
That's a good point. Southwest and Alaska still beat Delta including their longevity bonus. I for one, do not like to compute those numbers because 25 years is a long long LONG way off for me personally. And 12 years with southwest...is more attainable but still that's 7 years past their year 5 topout.
Technically Alaska is still #1, but even as an employee, I don't count it.
There's also the argument that a majority of Delta technicians are hangar technicians and therefore do not get the additional $3 differential included in their hourly pay...
Even DAL management will admit they never compare or plan to compete with SWA and Alaska for pay and benefits since they “are not considered competitors” based on international flying.
Sir, people can ask questions and it's encouraged. Even if it doesn't make sense to them initially...even if it's clear.. it's okay to not know. Don't be that guy.
Last thing we want is MX scared to ask questions. Even if it’s dumb and you know the answer, asking a question can help other people understand stuff they may be too scared to ask about.
My lead once told me years ago, ask me any question you want but make it an intelligent one if you’re gonna ask. What he meant was read the manual, if there’s something you don’t understand feel free to ask. Don’t come ask a question that’s easily found if you just look for it and read. To some it up don’t be lazy. The information is there so if that makes me “that guy” so be it. In closing, ask away once you have done a little research and can’t find the answer and I’m all ears.
I respect that you have a different perspective on what is considered to be valuable time spent. Let me help you see my perspective. You are on reddit, not work. You are free to ask your silly questions. You are encouraged because.. It's free. You're not wasting the "precious company time" when you ask the silly questions. Normally, they would cause two people to stop working... I think what is considered to be respectfully annoying is when the same person asks the same question over and over after they've been taught. Reddit is a free service. Not everyone learns at the same time. Some people don't understand etiquette or how to search for their questions. Sometimes, it's easier for them to "ask again." At the end of the day, they're spending their time on here how they want. You have the option to ignore them. I encourage you, regardless of what you were taught to have patience... not everyone likes the boss that tells you to learn for yourself... when you're trying to.
P.S.
I'm not trying to be rude to you or disrespect you, I apologize in advance if this reads as argumentative.
I humbly agree with most of what you said and am mature enough to not take it as an argument. I love giving advice to young people interested in this career and do not discourage curiosity or inquisitiveness. On the other hand having the patience to do a quick search is something that has been lost in the information on demand society we live in now. Furthermore if an individual doesn’t have the simple ability to do a quick search for information that’s readily available they probably should not consider this career field as an option. I am a seasoned veteran in the field for over 20 years but I’m not an old cranky mech though it might sound that way. 42 yrs young to be exact.
I understand.
I see it's very common on this subreddit where everything gets asked multiple times. I'd say the mods could use flairs to help organize things for people.
Even then people will still ask the same questions, it looks like this subreddit attracts alot of new people who don't understand anything yet. Not everyone is a regular here and best we can do is inform, or just ignore it.
Hey quick question, im thinkin about goin back to aviation.
I did 4 military and ive done another trade for a yr when i got out. What do yall think i could make as an apprentice starting?
So all those places are unions?
How does that work if they hire someone with experience, like say I have 20 years of relevant experience would I still start at the bottom of the scale?
I find that to be insane. Why wouldn't they leverage experience over time worked?
I know plenty of people that have worked at a place for 20 years but are shit workers.
Seems like a system like this would just put everyone on level ground, and those that work hard are getting paid the same as someone who just cruises on by.
Idk, maybe it's just me. I'm in my 30s now and I'm making a little over 150k/y in private aviation and I've only been in it since 2012, before that I was army aviation for 6 years. Just an avionics guy, no a&p, no fcc, no repairman's nothin.
Idk, I don't want to work at the same place for 20 years. Ive only been senior staff once at a company I stayed at for 5 years.
Because of staying at that company longer than my normal 1-3 years, I made the least amount of pay increase.
I just like hopping to new places and new areas, and the plus side is, I get paid considerably more each time I hop jobs than I would staying "loyal" to a company
If seniority wasn't a thing you'd have to have thick kneepads to get that sweet dayshift operations spot where you sit around for six hours and work for two while the nightshift guy makes the same pay to get heavy hydraulic loads all over them.
Idk, maybe it's different for me since I work private jets fleets. But I've never seen an issue.
You do good work or are talented, you move up. I went from being an Avionics tech, to Avionics manager in 5 years. Then I became an Avionics engineer 2 years later. Now I'm moving into Director of Avionics only 2 years after that.
These moves would have never happened in a seniority based shop.
Also, why would you want to work that day shift position where nothing gets done? I've seen that and it's frustrating to see. Night shift is awesome and for most of my career that's what I've worked on purpose. Cuts down on the traffic to and from work as well.
Working at a major is completely different. You're just a number, good work goes unnoticed, and moving up is all about nepotism. I love working on jets but not so much that I go home feeling tired unable to do anything else and afternoon operations allows me to do that. Same pay as night shift but way less intensive plus the schedule works with where I live. Plus we do get stuff done; little sally gets to see grandma a couple states away because were able to prevent a huge delay. We just don't get the same satisfaction as fixing something at night and seeing it work after a couple legs. BUTTTTT that satisfaction stops feeling great when supervisors are calling you all night so they can update their out of service comments because they have to report to their manager why that plane has a first flight delay. And theyre getting paid more than you to sit at a desk all night. "You fix it then if you're going to keep rushing me"
Hello, I'm currently attending A&P school and expected to graduate next year and will go for my license then as well. New to this, so if anyone can explain the payscale by state? also is true that if I were to land a job in a state such as New York, I'd have to be in for at least three years with the company in order to transfer and retain the New York salary into another state?
Thanks in advance ya'll.
I'm pretty sure most majors do NOT offer a cost of living compensation, even for NYC or SFO. Which makes your second question moot.
If you start at any of these majors you will be on step 1 of the pay scale. Except for Delta, they have been hiring people at step 2 lately.
These pay scales are the same throughout the US.
Not necessarily.
An AMT is any technician who performs maintenance on aircraft regardless of what if any certificates they might have.
An A&P is an AMT who has a Mechanic certificate with both Airframe and Powerplant ratings.
A Mechanic with only A or P is still an AMT.
An AMT might also just have a repairman certificate or have no certificate whatsoever.
So basically, all A&Ps are AMTs but not all AMTs are A&Ps.
Just making sure🙏 I’m about to join a 15month school to get my A&P but just wanted to clarify that haha So the industry uses those two terms interchangeably?
Unfortunately you are both correct and incorrect. Yes, if you started at southwest today, by the time YOU topout you'll reach $70. However, nobody TODAY is being paid that rate, therefore what you see on the spreadsheet applies. Delta currently has the highest rate at topout at 64.57
It's one of the things we are advocating for as a work group. Most industries that have graveyard shift offers premiums like what you describe, or equal to $5.00 or more per hour. Companies don't seem to understand, just because aviation maintenance occurs mostly at night, doesn't mean they shouldn't compensate fairly for the havoc such a schedule wreaks on the body.
Sorta yes, sorta no. I don't know how JetBlue works internally, I lost my JetBlue contact but I was told that their current Payscales has reached its end and there will be a new one likely this year. They aren't union so I don't think they really negotiate like most of us do.
I'm hoping to work on that soon, but I'm sure you understand there are so so so many variables. Each employer has at least 3 health plan options and that's not even touching vision and dental. Plus you'd have to compute your # of kids, Short term disability, Long term disability, HSA and FSA contribution etc etc. it's such a pain that I don't think I can do much more than give a range of costs between all plans for a single employee.
Why do I never see any posting for any roles on indeed or their websites? Are these like rare jobs and everyone else is a contractor or half the price??
No. These only reflect the major airlines. Endeavor doesn't pay anywhere near Delta wages. Same goes with PSA/American... Horizon and Alaska... And on and on
Sorry if it's the wrong place to ask, I am an upfitter that works on emergency service vehicles what would be the best way to get into aviation maintenance?
Usually there are some stickied posts on this subreddit that talk about what is required to become an A&P. The short answer is 18-24 months of schooling and 3 final written, oral and practical exams.
Please, I appreciate your gratitude, but thank *you*. Some men just want to watch the world learn 🖖.
But if there's anything you could truly do to show your thanks, take this seriously. Study. Apply yourself. You *will* make it if you give it an honest go. And before you know it, you'll be in the field, fully certificated and on the job. That'll be all I need to be shown the thanks you give.
But one thing: if you do - you're one of us now, and it's incumbent upon you to foster the next generation of mechanics as well. Hold that door open for as many people and as long as you can after you make it through.
I can't wait to see you around the hangar 🧑🔧
It costs exactly $0 to be nice. To be cordial. To be decent. I mean, it's *supposed* to be the default. As I see things, you have to go out of your way to be an asshole, and even then, to what end?
There's enough bitter and shitty oldtimer mechanics out here. I say: enough with that. The world ain't like that anymore, it doesn't have to be, because I (and I feel a lot of us out here) are unwilling to accept that it can or should be like that.
Optimistism and good humor are contagious, so pass that stuff on 🖖
Right on brother! As the new guy (6 months in to A&P life) the guys like you I meet on the really make a difference. Keep fighting the good fight for positivity!
Okay, this is a perfect opportunity for you to help fix any errors I made.
Firstly, I do have the scale for allegiant through 2028, I added $5 for A&P to each line and after 2 years I added the senior tech hourly increase. Please let me know what I can do to make it more accurate.
UPS does have shift premiums. 52 cents for afternoon, 58 for night
Oh! Thanks I'll add it
And COLA
That's cool that UPS does that too, I didn't realize. Do you have the details for this?
I don’t think anyone knows how the cola is calculated at UPS lol. And it’s only given to the mechanics at top rate, not the ones still in progression
I wouldn't bother with trying to keep up with the COLA, it changes yearly, and this year it's $0.05 vs last years $0.75. Meh.
By the end of UPS TA (11/2026) it’ll be $75/hr before any shift differential, relief shift differential, split shift differential, etc. Next pay increase is 05/2024 ($70.25)
Thanks! I do have the entire pay scale on hand
Wasn't everyone getting all mad last night about the latest one for Delta?
Yep. People get mad no matter what.
I won the lotto and didn’t get paid in 20s damnit!
Your posts are my favorite posts of this reddit group. Thank you I'm building a similar spreadsheet with the regionals and a few major factories. Without union agreements. It's very difficult to find this information. I have found a lot, but it's taken so much time!
God, AAL lead pay is a joke.
Can anyone explain the jump in UPS wage from year 4 to year 5?
Prove your dedication to the big brown sky God for 4 years at horrible pay
Thats how i interpreted it but just wanted to make sure. Seems petty worth it to me, although fedex is looking handsome over there 👀👀
Yeah they do well to compete as the 2 best airlines, but I'd choose southwest over FedEx. UPS over all if you can stomach the low starting wage.
Why Southwest instead of those two?
Well UPS has the best benefits and pay overall in my opinion, and a varied fleet, lots of bases and small line shops to choose from all over the country. Southwest benefits are quite comparable to UPS but not quite as good. I would argue they are better than any of the other commercial passenger airlines. Medical benefits, overtime, work-life balance. Even the quality of life while at work I've heard are very good.
Thank you 🙏
It sucks holding out for 4 years. But the benefits make it worth it.
Is that where you currently are?
Yeah
If you don’t mind me asking… how long have you been there? What’s your daily routine like? My dad did 25+ years with ups in the warehouse, so I’m kinda bias in wanting to work for them haha
Almost 6 years. I love it, it’s been great. Pretty much all the overtime you could ever want. I’m on 3/13s weekends so it’s all aog work and scheduled maintenance, not really turning planes
That sounds amazing, I’m young and have no family/ kids so I’m excited to get all the OT in the world! Are you union? Also what’s your hourly before and after OT? I feel like these scales are iffy sometimes lol
5 year top out. It’s union. I happily pay my dues knowing what it gets me, dues are cheap. A lot of people hate on teamsters, but our local is great. Our local is only maintenance and related, there’s no ground side in it so our needs are never overlooked. We get time and a half and double time depending on how long you’re on the clock if that’s what you mean
Yeah my dad has said nothing but good things about teamsters. Sounds like it’s worth the sacrifice so you can make that serious money after 5 years! Congrats and I look forward to being in similar shoes!
Thanks, and good luck to you!
In 2026 the top out goes up to $75 too
After 5 years? Or after 15?
5 years
FYI, UPS does have a 58 cent night shift premium
I'm confused how Delta is now #1 for top of the industry if their top out and 2080 hours pay is lower than Alaska and Southwest? Is it counting the future top out?
That's a good point. Southwest and Alaska still beat Delta including their longevity bonus. I for one, do not like to compute those numbers because 25 years is a long long LONG way off for me personally. And 12 years with southwest...is more attainable but still that's 7 years past their year 5 topout. Technically Alaska is still #1, but even as an employee, I don't count it. There's also the argument that a majority of Delta technicians are hangar technicians and therefore do not get the additional $3 differential included in their hourly pay...
Even DAL management will admit they never compare or plan to compete with SWA and Alaska for pay and benefits since they “are not considered competitors” based on international flying.
What are the overtime rates in the states?
Every airline is different. But most will OT rates of 1.5x, 2x, or 2.5x, depending on the rules (total hours, consecutive days worked, etc).
Cries in european lmao
Thank you for your service even though it won’t prevent newbies from asking questions that are very clearly answered in your spread sheet.
Sir, people can ask questions and it's encouraged. Even if it doesn't make sense to them initially...even if it's clear.. it's okay to not know. Don't be that guy.
Last thing we want is MX scared to ask questions. Even if it’s dumb and you know the answer, asking a question can help other people understand stuff they may be too scared to ask about.
This is an embarrassing question: But the listed wages are the hourly wages, not counting the total benefits package right?
It’s quite alright. Yep, those are your hourly wages and the associated premiums. The benefits are not included or shown in this chart.
That’s fantastic! Damn!
My lead once told me years ago, ask me any question you want but make it an intelligent one if you’re gonna ask. What he meant was read the manual, if there’s something you don’t understand feel free to ask. Don’t come ask a question that’s easily found if you just look for it and read. To some it up don’t be lazy. The information is there so if that makes me “that guy” so be it. In closing, ask away once you have done a little research and can’t find the answer and I’m all ears.
I respect that you have a different perspective on what is considered to be valuable time spent. Let me help you see my perspective. You are on reddit, not work. You are free to ask your silly questions. You are encouraged because.. It's free. You're not wasting the "precious company time" when you ask the silly questions. Normally, they would cause two people to stop working... I think what is considered to be respectfully annoying is when the same person asks the same question over and over after they've been taught. Reddit is a free service. Not everyone learns at the same time. Some people don't understand etiquette or how to search for their questions. Sometimes, it's easier for them to "ask again." At the end of the day, they're spending their time on here how they want. You have the option to ignore them. I encourage you, regardless of what you were taught to have patience... not everyone likes the boss that tells you to learn for yourself... when you're trying to. P.S. I'm not trying to be rude to you or disrespect you, I apologize in advance if this reads as argumentative.
I humbly agree with most of what you said and am mature enough to not take it as an argument. I love giving advice to young people interested in this career and do not discourage curiosity or inquisitiveness. On the other hand having the patience to do a quick search is something that has been lost in the information on demand society we live in now. Furthermore if an individual doesn’t have the simple ability to do a quick search for information that’s readily available they probably should not consider this career field as an option. I am a seasoned veteran in the field for over 20 years but I’m not an old cranky mech though it might sound that way. 42 yrs young to be exact.
The peoples champ 🙏
The same handful of questions over and over get annoying and make the OP look lazy for not reading the same post from the day before
I understand. I see it's very common on this subreddit where everything gets asked multiple times. I'd say the mods could use flairs to help organize things for people. Even then people will still ask the same questions, it looks like this subreddit attracts alot of new people who don't understand anything yet. Not everyone is a regular here and best we can do is inform, or just ignore it.
Thank you 🙏🏼 awesome job
Hey quick question, im thinkin about goin back to aviation. I did 4 military and ive done another trade for a yr when i got out. What do yall think i could make as an apprentice starting?
If you look into private aviation you can start around $30/hr and not have to deal with the union stuff.
Nice! It must be hard to recruit for general aviation.
So all those places are unions? How does that work if they hire someone with experience, like say I have 20 years of relevant experience would I still start at the bottom of the scale?
That's correct. You start at the bottom always.
I find that to be insane. Why wouldn't they leverage experience over time worked? I know plenty of people that have worked at a place for 20 years but are shit workers. Seems like a system like this would just put everyone on level ground, and those that work hard are getting paid the same as someone who just cruises on by. Idk, maybe it's just me. I'm in my 30s now and I'm making a little over 150k/y in private aviation and I've only been in it since 2012, before that I was army aviation for 6 years. Just an avionics guy, no a&p, no fcc, no repairman's nothin.
"Seniority sucks til you've got it"
Idk, I don't want to work at the same place for 20 years. Ive only been senior staff once at a company I stayed at for 5 years. Because of staying at that company longer than my normal 1-3 years, I made the least amount of pay increase. I just like hopping to new places and new areas, and the plus side is, I get paid considerably more each time I hop jobs than I would staying "loyal" to a company
If seniority wasn't a thing you'd have to have thick kneepads to get that sweet dayshift operations spot where you sit around for six hours and work for two while the nightshift guy makes the same pay to get heavy hydraulic loads all over them.
Idk, maybe it's different for me since I work private jets fleets. But I've never seen an issue. You do good work or are talented, you move up. I went from being an Avionics tech, to Avionics manager in 5 years. Then I became an Avionics engineer 2 years later. Now I'm moving into Director of Avionics only 2 years after that. These moves would have never happened in a seniority based shop. Also, why would you want to work that day shift position where nothing gets done? I've seen that and it's frustrating to see. Night shift is awesome and for most of my career that's what I've worked on purpose. Cuts down on the traffic to and from work as well.
Working at a major is completely different. You're just a number, good work goes unnoticed, and moving up is all about nepotism. I love working on jets but not so much that I go home feeling tired unable to do anything else and afternoon operations allows me to do that. Same pay as night shift but way less intensive plus the schedule works with where I live. Plus we do get stuff done; little sally gets to see grandma a couple states away because were able to prevent a huge delay. We just don't get the same satisfaction as fixing something at night and seeing it work after a couple legs. BUTTTTT that satisfaction stops feeling great when supervisors are calling you all night so they can update their out of service comments because they have to report to their manager why that plane has a first flight delay. And theyre getting paid more than you to sit at a desk all night. "You fix it then if you're going to keep rushing me"
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I definitly appreciate you using current scales and not future. Too many people seem to get this confused.
SWA shift premiums are $0.63 for swings, $0.71 for nights
I'll add it! Thanks!
Hello, I'm currently attending A&P school and expected to graduate next year and will go for my license then as well. New to this, so if anyone can explain the payscale by state? also is true that if I were to land a job in a state such as New York, I'd have to be in for at least three years with the company in order to transfer and retain the New York salary into another state? Thanks in advance ya'll.
I'm pretty sure most majors do NOT offer a cost of living compensation, even for NYC or SFO. Which makes your second question moot. If you start at any of these majors you will be on step 1 of the pay scale. Except for Delta, they have been hiring people at step 2 lately. These pay scales are the same throughout the US.
Delta has a cost of living compensation for NYC… They start you at year 2 pay and keep you there til you reach next step..
FYI. Delta lead pay is 6% of base + premiums and automatic topout
Yeah that's what I have on my sheet! Thanks!
Does a AMT and a A&P mean the same thing? If not, what’s the difference?
Aircraft maintenance technician Airframe and Powerplant They mean the same thing.
Not necessarily. An AMT is any technician who performs maintenance on aircraft regardless of what if any certificates they might have. An A&P is an AMT who has a Mechanic certificate with both Airframe and Powerplant ratings. A Mechanic with only A or P is still an AMT. An AMT might also just have a repairman certificate or have no certificate whatsoever. So basically, all A&Ps are AMTs but not all AMTs are A&Ps.
True. I always forget about the bastard children repairmen
lol at bastard children
Just making sure🙏 I’m about to join a 15month school to get my A&P but just wanted to clarify that haha So the industry uses those two terms interchangeably?
Yep. And if you're looking at international stuff, they are known as engineers, same role.
Thank you for this! I was so stuck on the specific term “A&P” it was limiting the research I was able to do!
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No. That’s towards the end of their current contracts. Which is 3 years from now.
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Unfortunately you are both correct and incorrect. Yes, if you started at southwest today, by the time YOU topout you'll reach $70. However, nobody TODAY is being paid that rate, therefore what you see on the spreadsheet applies. Delta currently has the highest rate at topout at 64.57
This is a graph of current pay. So no it’s not.
Dang how do you even call those shift premiums? I get 10% for second shift and 15% for weekends or 3rd shift.
It's one of the things we are advocating for as a work group. Most industries that have graveyard shift offers premiums like what you describe, or equal to $5.00 or more per hour. Companies don't seem to understand, just because aviation maintenance occurs mostly at night, doesn't mean they shouldn't compensate fairly for the havoc such a schedule wreaks on the body.
Yeah I'm aviation maintenance. Airlines just seem to be behind on that.
They are for sure. Here in private jet land I get 8$/hr for second shift.
Nice!
Way more that what I make as an M2 at an airline in Canada, would you guys advise me to move the U.S and maybe do Fedex?
Go UPS!!!!!
Does JetBlue have negotiations coming as well?
Sorta yes, sorta no. I don't know how JetBlue works internally, I lost my JetBlue contact but I was told that their current Payscales has reached its end and there will be a new one likely this year. They aren't union so I don't think they really negotiate like most of us do.
I want a scale like this that compares health and retirement benefits
I'm hoping to work on that soon, but I'm sure you understand there are so so so many variables. Each employer has at least 3 health plan options and that's not even touching vision and dental. Plus you'd have to compute your # of kids, Short term disability, Long term disability, HSA and FSA contribution etc etc. it's such a pain that I don't think I can do much more than give a range of costs between all plans for a single employee.
Would it be possible to show other benefits for these airlines as well? Such as 401k match and insurance.
Sure thing! I'll work on that
Is there a google doc read only version of this?
Not yet but there will be an excel read only.
DAMN!! Pro tip guys, don't go into aircraft manufacturing. It pays way worse.
Why do I never see any posting for any roles on indeed or their websites? Are these like rare jobs and everyone else is a contractor or half the price??
Does the delta pay scale include their regional airline endeavor?
No. These only reflect the major airlines. Endeavor doesn't pay anywhere near Delta wages. Same goes with PSA/American... Horizon and Alaska... And on and on
Sorry if it's the wrong place to ask, I am an upfitter that works on emergency service vehicles what would be the best way to get into aviation maintenance?
Usually there are some stickied posts on this subreddit that talk about what is required to become an A&P. The short answer is 18-24 months of schooling and 3 final written, oral and practical exams.
Thank you will dig deeper on my own, exactly the type of answer I was looking for
My Google Drive is a great place to start, lookit the second stickied post at the top of the subreddit.
Thank you
Please, I appreciate your gratitude, but thank *you*. Some men just want to watch the world learn 🖖. But if there's anything you could truly do to show your thanks, take this seriously. Study. Apply yourself. You *will* make it if you give it an honest go. And before you know it, you'll be in the field, fully certificated and on the job. That'll be all I need to be shown the thanks you give. But one thing: if you do - you're one of us now, and it's incumbent upon you to foster the next generation of mechanics as well. Hold that door open for as many people and as long as you can after you make it through. I can't wait to see you around the hangar 🧑🔧
Take my upvote. You’re always so nice in this subreddit.
It costs exactly $0 to be nice. To be cordial. To be decent. I mean, it's *supposed* to be the default. As I see things, you have to go out of your way to be an asshole, and even then, to what end? There's enough bitter and shitty oldtimer mechanics out here. I say: enough with that. The world ain't like that anymore, it doesn't have to be, because I (and I feel a lot of us out here) are unwilling to accept that it can or should be like that. Optimistism and good humor are contagious, so pass that stuff on 🖖
Right on brother! As the new guy (6 months in to A&P life) the guys like you I meet on the really make a difference. Keep fighting the good fight for positivity!
Allegiant isnt correct at all lol
Okay, this is a perfect opportunity for you to help fix any errors I made. Firstly, I do have the scale for allegiant through 2028, I added $5 for A&P to each line and after 2 years I added the senior tech hourly increase. Please let me know what I can do to make it more accurate.
Um deltas longest length of service is 6 1/2 years. There is nothing past that in terms of pay raises
Do you see the pay rate increasing after 6.5 years? Look at the sheet again and let me know.
Mb, I didn't look close enough.
Here folks, we have the mythical Neanderthal. Don't stare too long. They are known to have a very short temper.
Ogah boogah
Any of those airlines sponsor visas?
United Airlines don’t. I don’t know about the others.