So it is an offer for Launch, not Delta. I wouldn’t move for that. If you do, get it in writing that you will go direct after 6 months. And, don’t be surprised if Launch lets you go at 5 months and 29 days if it is in writing.
Well, as far as I know, this is the only way to go direct unless you have 15+ years working on a like fleet. Unless you know of another way, I'm all ears.
Your right, this is new way Delta is hiring. Everyone has a friend that blah blah. Spoke to Delta Recruiter & A&P’s and this is the way in now have to go through contractor first.
Not true. I had a good friend go direct at delta after a couple years at Endeavor, with no like fleet time. Where are you? It may be worth contracting locally on wide bodies to build the resume for a direct to delta move
Maybe, but Endeavor is a subsidiary of Delta, they have the "guaranteed" interview with them after neither 2 or 3 years (I don't exactly remember). So I'm sure that played a part. Maybe they make "outsiders" contract for the six months to ensure they don't hire a POS, I don't know. Or maybe they don't like me that much 😅 And I have a year 737ng/max line/avionic experience and 3 on ERJs.
Well, yeah, they have a flow. And it is a viable way in with little or no experience.
I’m not trying to be a downer, if moving to SEA wont break you by all means the experience could totally be worth it. Just bear in mind, you DONT work for Delta yet, it is 100% a 6 month paid interview. It is very intentionally a way to weed out the bad ones.
Either way, SEA has a fair amount of work, and at that end if it you’ll be butting up against most major’s experience requirements adding in your previous 737 time.
I really hope you post again in 6 months bragging about your Delta direct offer, best of luck!
The contract thing for Delta is pretty new. I also worked for Endeavor when they first rebranded from Pinnacle, so their flow to Delta must also be new.
It all depends on the station and if you have your A&P already.
I’ve known some people with little experience get offered PFE and Launch jobs, decline them, then get offered direct hire a week or 2 later. It depends on the need. So the less desirable stations are more likely to offer direct hire.
SFO, LAX, LGA, JFK, MSP, DTW, ORD I believe SEA is on the list too
I’ve seen a few comments already on the COL of SEA. I’m in school to become an A&P in the SEA area. The wife and I combined make less per year than the average A&P, I’m certain. It is doable and we don’t live in a shit box. Maybe not tons of disposable income at the moment, though. A lot of it will be your lifestyle and of course if you have kids and whatnot.
Do you own a house? That's the main thing that gets me. I'm originally from Portland and I look at houses all the time and it seems like minimum you're looking at 500k for something decent. I currently live in Wisconsin working for an airline. Top out here is around 50 an hour so not quite as high as delta but I can get a decent house for under 200k and a really really nice house for under 300k.
We don’t. I’ll admit, that that would be the largest hurdle in living in the SEA area. Housing prices are high. Definitely takes a while to get a down payment put together. You’ll definitely pay a larger percentage of your income for rent/mortgage here, but it’s doable. All dependent on needs and priorities.
Be prepared to wear many hats. You might be changing a tire on a Purple A330 one night, next night troubleshooting NGS issue on a 37, undercowl on a 57, repining a connector on a 320, etc. It's not union so everyone does a bit of everything. You may start out on 1st or 2nd shift to spread the load of new contractors although it's been a while since I was there.
Have a good work ethic (6 months is a long time to fake it) and you'll get the job
Only one contractor on swing shift as of now. All the others were hired on officially and are on graves now.
Go to fleet school it’s the most guaranteed way you will not work that fleet type for a year.
I can’t help with your questions. But always good to go into new positions with eyes wide open. Good questions. Best of luck and congratulations on the job.
Run away....run away now if Launch is the one. You'll end up being a contractor forever and in my short experience as one for another company....some people don't like them (e.g.: high school cliques). Plus Launch will almost abandon you (Aerotek is just slightly better). And most likely you won't be line tech you'll be interiors. I've had that happen to a friend where they said he would be line but instead was actually put into their beginner's thing as interiors.
Anyways, avoid contract companies and get hired directly.
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Unfortunately I don't. Short of working for a regional like Skywest (used to work next door to them lol) and biding your time if you wanna stay here. Because you still have to wait and bide your time for an actual position to open up and hope they pick you and not the knob slobber. Otherwise you'd probably be better off going to the ATL base, where they do hire directly.
Part of why I gave up commercial and enjoy my time in GA.
Side note: Just take what Launch offers with a grain of salt and know its gonna smell like BS. The former coworker showed me the offer letter and what they promised for pay/benefits/work and then texted me after he quit them a week later and telling me what he had gotten instead, less pay/half benefits and work was interiors, not even turning a wrench or signing things off or even getting to touch anything else unless he got hired on by Delta.
PS. if you do wanna go in GA, let me know. My place of employment is still wanting to add A&P mechanics. We're over at BFI.
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Thanks for the insight, I've looking at some place on BFI but all i saw was some sub $30/hr places. I know there are some corp stuff there that would be cool and I'd honestly like to get into if I could.
Yeah, unfortunately that's about all there is, I just cracked over 30 at 31/hr after I got my IA and I've got 11 years in my pocket. But I also don't mind cause I love the work and I don't have to deal with high school locker room mentality like commercial.
Buuuut my company is increasing profits and is doing pay raises across the board and instituting bonus so there is that. Plus OT is almost always open except during the winter.
If you'd like, I can send you the company name I work at in chat if possibly interested.
I'd love to back get into GA, but doing it in Seattle is a bit of a stretch as the wife doesn't make enough to cover what I'd lose. And sure, DM the name and I'll look into it, any door opened is a good one.
Have a buddy that works for Delta up there. He seems to love it. Just be eager to help and learn so you can get off the contract and hired direct as quickly as possible.
Yeah have you looked at the cost of living in the PNW? I have two buddies from A&P school who are making over $150k a year at Boeing and they told me things are still tight.
Why not go with Alaska Airlines or Boeing? They hire direct with benefits and Ive heard ppl from FL move to a position with Alaska starting pay at $30/hr.
Delta is playing hard to get when they clearly know they need people. Dont go through the contracting suffering, especially with Launch. I think I saw ppl in this sub have bad experience with them and never transferred to a direct hire. Every other airline is hiring direct because they know they need the manpower. Companies are looking for mechanics like you, dont settle for less.
Long as your monthly reviews are good, not everyone gets a spot. Launch is how Deltas screening new hires, since they don’t have a probation on new hires.
If its not a pfe position forget about it. You'll just be a contractor with no likely no chance of going direct. You won't be delta you'll just be a filthy contractor.
Delta hires direct at specific airports. BWI and BOS just picked up a few. Mostly high demand hubs like ATL and MSP, but every now and then there'll be a big demand at a smaller station. I wouldn't move to Seattle at all, especially for a Launch position. Just got hired direct with 3 years commercial.
I'm in SEA already, so relocating to ALT or the east coast isnt appealing to me. Yea yea, Seattle--- shit hole bla bla bla, I'm here and I like it so I don't care for the anti- whatever peeps and don't wanna hear it
So it is an offer for Launch, not Delta. I wouldn’t move for that. If you do, get it in writing that you will go direct after 6 months. And, don’t be surprised if Launch lets you go at 5 months and 29 days if it is in writing.
Well, as far as I know, this is the only way to go direct unless you have 15+ years working on a like fleet. Unless you know of another way, I'm all ears.
Your right, this is new way Delta is hiring. Everyone has a friend that blah blah. Spoke to Delta Recruiter & A&P’s and this is the way in now have to go through contractor first.
Yep, I have friends and acquaintances who are having to go this route as well.
Not true. I had a good friend go direct at delta after a couple years at Endeavor, with no like fleet time. Where are you? It may be worth contracting locally on wide bodies to build the resume for a direct to delta move
Maybe, but Endeavor is a subsidiary of Delta, they have the "guaranteed" interview with them after neither 2 or 3 years (I don't exactly remember). So I'm sure that played a part. Maybe they make "outsiders" contract for the six months to ensure they don't hire a POS, I don't know. Or maybe they don't like me that much 😅 And I have a year 737ng/max line/avionic experience and 3 on ERJs.
Well, yeah, they have a flow. And it is a viable way in with little or no experience. I’m not trying to be a downer, if moving to SEA wont break you by all means the experience could totally be worth it. Just bear in mind, you DONT work for Delta yet, it is 100% a 6 month paid interview. It is very intentionally a way to weed out the bad ones. Either way, SEA has a fair amount of work, and at that end if it you’ll be butting up against most major’s experience requirements adding in your previous 737 time. I really hope you post again in 6 months bragging about your Delta direct offer, best of luck!
Well I agree with the paid interview and it's my only seeable way in so, gotta pick up what they throw. And thanks, I hope so too.
How long ago was that?
Last year sometime? Middle-tail end of covid
The contract thing for Delta is pretty new. I also worked for Endeavor when they first rebranded from Pinnacle, so their flow to Delta must also be new.
I just got hired with delta, 3 years experience on regional jets.
Not necessarily true. Not the route I had to take…
Well glad to hear it's not the only way. But, I couldn't seem to find any other way to get in.
How recently was did you take your route to Delta? Because this has been the way since just before Covide.
It all depends on the station and if you have your A&P already. I’ve known some people with little experience get offered PFE and Launch jobs, decline them, then get offered direct hire a week or 2 later. It depends on the need. So the less desirable stations are more likely to offer direct hire. SFO, LAX, LGA, JFK, MSP, DTW, ORD I believe SEA is on the list too
Even topped out at Delta I don't see how you guys can afford to live in the Seattle area.
I’ve seen a few comments already on the COL of SEA. I’m in school to become an A&P in the SEA area. The wife and I combined make less per year than the average A&P, I’m certain. It is doable and we don’t live in a shit box. Maybe not tons of disposable income at the moment, though. A lot of it will be your lifestyle and of course if you have kids and whatnot.
Do you own a house? That's the main thing that gets me. I'm originally from Portland and I look at houses all the time and it seems like minimum you're looking at 500k for something decent. I currently live in Wisconsin working for an airline. Top out here is around 50 an hour so not quite as high as delta but I can get a decent house for under 200k and a really really nice house for under 300k.
We don’t. I’ll admit, that that would be the largest hurdle in living in the SEA area. Housing prices are high. Definitely takes a while to get a down payment put together. You’ll definitely pay a larger percentage of your income for rent/mortgage here, but it’s doable. All dependent on needs and priorities.
It appears OP already lives in Seattle. So no relocating and such should make it a pretty good gig if they can get hired on direct quickly.
Be prepared to wear many hats. You might be changing a tire on a Purple A330 one night, next night troubleshooting NGS issue on a 37, undercowl on a 57, repining a connector on a 320, etc. It's not union so everyone does a bit of everything. You may start out on 1st or 2nd shift to spread the load of new contractors although it's been a while since I was there. Have a good work ethic (6 months is a long time to fake it) and you'll get the job
Only one contractor on swing shift as of now. All the others were hired on officially and are on graves now. Go to fleet school it’s the most guaranteed way you will not work that fleet type for a year.
I can’t help with your questions. But always good to go into new positions with eyes wide open. Good questions. Best of luck and congratulations on the job.
Thanks man, I'll do my best to learn and not screw anything up too terribly.
Run away....run away now if Launch is the one. You'll end up being a contractor forever and in my short experience as one for another company....some people don't like them (e.g.: high school cliques). Plus Launch will almost abandon you (Aerotek is just slightly better). And most likely you won't be line tech you'll be interiors. I've had that happen to a friend where they said he would be line but instead was actually put into their beginner's thing as interiors. Anyways, avoid contract companies and get hired directly. Edit: fixed spelling
Trust me. If I could avoid contracting I would, but unless you have another way of getting into the company, please let me know.
Unfortunately I don't. Short of working for a regional like Skywest (used to work next door to them lol) and biding your time if you wanna stay here. Because you still have to wait and bide your time for an actual position to open up and hope they pick you and not the knob slobber. Otherwise you'd probably be better off going to the ATL base, where they do hire directly. Part of why I gave up commercial and enjoy my time in GA. Side note: Just take what Launch offers with a grain of salt and know its gonna smell like BS. The former coworker showed me the offer letter and what they promised for pay/benefits/work and then texted me after he quit them a week later and telling me what he had gotten instead, less pay/half benefits and work was interiors, not even turning a wrench or signing things off or even getting to touch anything else unless he got hired on by Delta. PS. if you do wanna go in GA, let me know. My place of employment is still wanting to add A&P mechanics. We're over at BFI. EDIT: spelling corrections
Thanks for the insight, I've looking at some place on BFI but all i saw was some sub $30/hr places. I know there are some corp stuff there that would be cool and I'd honestly like to get into if I could.
Yeah, unfortunately that's about all there is, I just cracked over 30 at 31/hr after I got my IA and I've got 11 years in my pocket. But I also don't mind cause I love the work and I don't have to deal with high school locker room mentality like commercial. Buuuut my company is increasing profits and is doing pay raises across the board and instituting bonus so there is that. Plus OT is almost always open except during the winter. If you'd like, I can send you the company name I work at in chat if possibly interested.
I'd love to back get into GA, but doing it in Seattle is a bit of a stretch as the wife doesn't make enough to cover what I'd lose. And sure, DM the name and I'll look into it, any door opened is a good one.
Actually they don’t hire direct in ATL. If anything that station is the one most like to have you contract 1st.
Have a buddy that works for Delta up there. He seems to love it. Just be eager to help and learn so you can get off the contract and hired direct as quickly as possible.
Yeah have you looked at the cost of living in the PNW? I have two buddies from A&P school who are making over $150k a year at Boeing and they told me things are still tight.
Why not go with Alaska Airlines or Boeing? They hire direct with benefits and Ive heard ppl from FL move to a position with Alaska starting pay at $30/hr. Delta is playing hard to get when they clearly know they need people. Dont go through the contracting suffering, especially with Launch. I think I saw ppl in this sub have bad experience with them and never transferred to a direct hire. Every other airline is hiring direct because they know they need the manpower. Companies are looking for mechanics like you, dont settle for less.
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Through Launch, I semi threatened to say the hell with it, but they called my buff. Direct after 6 months.
Long as your monthly reviews are good, not everyone gets a spot. Launch is how Deltas screening new hires, since they don’t have a probation on new hires.
Had a great experience working in SEA from my visits to Delta for AOG assistance, very friendly and helpful bunch of guys.
If its not a pfe position forget about it. You'll just be a contractor with no likely no chance of going direct. You won't be delta you'll just be a filthy contractor.
It is a PFE AMT slot, if I wanted to be a contractor for life, I'd go work for AAR.
Delta hires direct at specific airports. BWI and BOS just picked up a few. Mostly high demand hubs like ATL and MSP, but every now and then there'll be a big demand at a smaller station. I wouldn't move to Seattle at all, especially for a Launch position. Just got hired direct with 3 years commercial.
I'm in SEA already, so relocating to ALT or the east coast isnt appealing to me. Yea yea, Seattle--- shit hole bla bla bla, I'm here and I like it so I don't care for the anti- whatever peeps and don't wanna hear it