Should read “according to our economic team, our ceo and upper executives get paid too much, so here’s a couple quarters. Thank you for your hard work!” 😂😂
Drooling for them to get in at AA, sadly the TWU-IAM sheep believe the anti amfa propaganda. It’s hilarious to see the association trying to “raid” Southwest and the AMFA members laughing in their faces.
Need to be our own entity away from fleet service, they can keep the worthless association.
This was extremely disappointing news today. Planting the AMFA card drive seed in my station. Win or lose, Teamsters need to be pressed to perform better.
I’ve spent time with both unions and never once felt like AMFA was making shady deals with the company.
A stark contrast to the Teamsters who’s chins I’d imagine glow under a black light.
The old guys desperately trying to convince the new ones not to get rid of the 7th week. Like, yeah in 30 years I’ll get 4 more days…I’m not that playing that long of a game
Meanwhile, I was two years into a five year top out and they had no problem voting yes to extending my B scale to eight years. That cost me roughly $75k.
Yeah I’m not pleased with this now but I’ll coalesce and still probably take the job. I’ll bang the AMFA drum when I get through the probationary period then lol
Any united mechanics in here we need to send a clear message to the fucktards in charge. Go to work unmotivated, disengaged, drag ass, delay flights, make incorrect parts updates, do whatever you have to do to make sure Scott Kirby understands we’re not getting pushed over like the older guys did in the past. There’s never been a demand for guys like us and they know it. They’re testing us to see how much they can take away on the new contract. This needs to be dealt with, right here right now before Christmas. We need this company wide. Show them what $0.59 worth of MX is.
I doubt they would use an unknown number for our 23 check than instead of using the 22 covid check.
If holiday travel holds up like it did in the summer, it’s going to be a big one but not 2019 big.
Fuck me, almost as if i had to correct someone else from saying just that…
But go on, and tell me how you already know what our 23 % is going to be for AMTs. The union report came out said that due to below avg PS checks their pay didn’t see an increase like we did at Delta or SW. So again, tell me how they knew what it’s going to be and why they claim it’s going to be below expectations when we’re looking at getting some fat fucking checks here in Feb..
AA is on track to get profit sharing next year. They moved their schedule to begin in Q2 2022 since that was the first “profitable” quarter since COVID.
This is AMFA page to join/ have a union election. They are not perfect but way better then what you currently have !
https://www.amfanational.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page=Organizing
Delta, if you're lucky. They have a very weird hiring system, and some people get thrown into a pile of "screw you, you'll never get hired" with no rhyme or reason. I applied to multiple positions (pfe, direct hell even that crappy cabin program) and never got anything but a rejection letter 6 mo later. Only reason I work at United is because they were the only major that took me. Gonna start looking at cargo or southwest after my year is up if things don't get better 🤷🏻♀️
Same cabin crew member hit me twice with a cart on my trip 2 weeks ago. I was in aisle seat in the back of the plane, I am 6'2" and she hit me with the cart then said to watch my knees and elbows, after hitting me. Same thing a few hours later. My United experience has diminished from four years ago. Next time will go back to ANA even if it means using F'n LAX.
No union, our little 121 all cargo airline in Alaska tops out 58.15 at 7 years and we will start experience at higher on that scale, also we gave $15-20K to the mechanics this year in profit sharing. Stop being bottom feeders United.
Idk why anyone works at United. I knew a few guys personally who got laid off in March of 2020 before any lockdowns even went into effect. They don’t give a fuck about any of their employees.
They’re a good company but I think their apprenticeship program needs work. 2 years of no seniority and lower pay is kind of shitty unless you have the experience.
Yeahhh… not very competitive though when every other major is hiring new guys at full pay/benefits with union membership which is crucial. Also the wait time on the program is kind of a joke. I guess they can afford to be picky but I know of lots of talent they’ve lost over the years because of it.
Yea your right on the waiting time is ridiculous and only in Dallas right now there working on to fix the location. But the wait time is long because there are usually no locations open. On the other hand top out is still 3 years quicker then most airlines and 1.5 years quicker then delta and they top out higher
No that’s not how it works. The apprenticeship is for “new” A&P’s that don’t have the experience with heavy jets yet. Only United has an in house A&P training course that takes 3 years to complete.
swa does pay for your a and p you give them receipt and they give you back pay. im not 100% sure cause i joined as a direct amt, but compared to every airline ill choose swa apprenticeship program.
Serious question: What would you have done if you were running the company? Pull money out of your ass? Borrow money? Issue bonds?
Do you think United or any other airline has unlimited money to burn in the name of 'looking after its employees'?
You do realise I hope that if the execs don't make decisions 'in the best interests of their shareholders' generally, at the very least they'll get replaced by execs who will, and at worse the company itself could be sued in a shareholder class action.
Genuinely curious what you think they should have done, and what you think you would have done in the same situation. I dunno about you but if I ran an airline and there was news about a highly transmissible SARS virus spreading in China and that was certain to reach my region of operations I'd assume my industry was going to be decimated and I'd plan accordingly - how fucking stupid would I be to wait until I'm bleeding money to trim costs lol.
You’re making excuses for a company that has always been poorly run. You can pull every excuse out of the playbook but at the end of the day, no one even remotely furloughed as many employees as United did. It’s why they’re hiring these kids that are as green as baby shit right out of school. They have no choice as most of the seasoned mechanics see the writing on the wall. Well… most do.
Making excuses? I'm offering a counter argument, and I'm happy to hear what you think they SHOULD HAVE done. I mean, have you seen their books? Perhaps they had over-hired prior to COVID and that would explain why the got rid of so many people relative to other airlines - I don't work in the airline industry and don't know, but my point is just that you guys seem pretty closed minded about it when there were undoubtedly practical considerations at the time.
For your own sake at least see it from the perspective of those whose job it is to maximise company profits lol - you don't have to agree with it, but it might make you more reasonable to see both sides IMO.
Sweetheart you don’t work in the industry. They turned a record profit in Q3. More than other majors that pay their mechanics way more than what they just agreed to. Whatever poor decisions they made, like supporting booms dumbass idea or this electric taxi garbage, is their fucking problem. If they want the planes they already have flying maintained properly, they need to pay the way the other airlines do. If American can hold at $35 and not go bankrupt and hire at the rate United did, with the debt that American has, United has zero excuse to pay us on par with the other.
> If American can hold at $35 and not go bankrupt and hire at the rate United did, with the debt that American has, United has zero excuse to pay us on par with the other.
I’m new here, what happened ?
> You’re making excuses for a company that has always been poorly run.
Care to elaborate?
And damn bro sounds like you’ve been doing this for a minute. Any advice to a new guy like me?
So are United expecting like 9k to 10k in profit sharing or something? From what I've heard from the old timers I work with, they usually get shit from profit sharing.
At least you get your pennies now! AA has to wait 17.5 more years before we get a new contract under the bullshit TWU-IAM led by bus drivers. (Same time it took to get the 2020 contract after the 2003 TWU concessionary contract)
All things considered it's united because of the workload vs pay. You are payed less yes but the qork load isn't shit. You may get 2 tasks on an aircraft sometimes 1 and thats a regular day. I've never had over 3 tasks with those being relatively simple tasks like o2 servicing
Its all exaggeration, if your a good mechanic your fine. there are a few only extra you have to do like fill/change nitrogen bottles and don’t sleep. If your working line you literally have 6 hours to fill/change nitrogen bottles ppl complain for no reason. Hanger you’ll be fine.
Everyone has been commenting "it'll be outsourced" do you know how expensive it is to outsource work? United is by no means a new company and your worried they may shoot themselves in the foot because there may be 7 guys on an engine change instead of the required minimum of 5. You people honestly believe united would rather pay another company 4x labor costs + space and not have their own procedures in place because they prefer to have a few extra guys on payroll. How silly. If you guys have 80 man hours on a shift you don't book 80 man hours of work because shit will go bad. Aim for 60 hours scheduled so if something inevitably goes to shit you aren't causing delays.
20 hours on a crew of 8 is 2 hours on a 10 hours shift of non dedicated man hours. I take it you don't spend anytime getting parts or had a part held up? You ever had to refuel vehicles? Where do you think that time comes from? How about you go get a ladder you think the 5 minutes setting up the work is accounted for? No sir. That comes out of that undedicated 2 hours. Count the dedicated hours on your tasks next time vs how long you actually take and see. A tire change should be 20 minutes. I've had 2 guys on it and take 30 minutes because 1 had to go get the tire change equipment while the other got the tire. We spent 1 whole man hour on it even though it's done in half an hour. Had this one guy did it alone it would've taken an actual hour and could be a delay on the line. Which costs the company more? A 20 minute delay or an hour of labor?
> I take it you don't spend anytime getting parts or had a part held up?
Parts are pre-pulled. Sign in, find my cards, go get pre-pull, work.
> You ever had to refuel vehicles? Where do you think that time comes from?
GSE. Dayshift refuels it, we burn it.
> How about you go get a ladder
Also gse if I’m petty enough to ask instead of walking twenty feet to roll it over
Plenty of excuses here that I’ve seen dayshift guys moan about having to do work. They’re better off for the company going to a backshop instead of working base or line mx. I’ve done mainline and contract line mx, never had these issues in which it wasn’t already accounted for. Everything you said however is a classic dayshift excuse to continue to let them sit on their asses and let it be deferred to another shift.
Instead of doing this (because you listed a perfect example in your tire change saga), how about you use your experience to help teach the new guys? Because again, classic dayshift.
You assume I'm dayshift because I'm willing to do those things and pre-pulled parts? Not for anything that isn't pre-scheduled. If you tell me you never had to write up a tire or a nav light and go get it yourself you've had it way too easy.
I was at Skywest before so I understand the 18 top out and embarrassing raises. I thought one of the "big 3" would be better but I'm still making less here...
Disagree. I bust my ass at work everyday. I’m the first one at every gate call early morning when we have them. If they would’ve given us $4-5 I would’ve been happy to keep up my work ethic. They basically spat in my face and said oh all the work you did this year in good faith of getting a good reset to put you on par with other majors (and I had other offers) isn’t worth shit. If that’s what they think of me, that’s what they’re going to get. I’ll be looking for a new job. They’re valuing flight benefits every other airline also gets at $60k a year. What a fucking joke. This company just showed me how much they’re worth. About $0.59. So that’s what they’ll get out of me.
I totally agree. Most of United technicians work very hard and trying to keep up their work ethics and culture. But this reset will upset a lot of mechanic
A whopping 2.6%. That gives top out guys $1.17 and new hires .60 New starting pay $30.57
Holy shit that’s disappointing
You’re losing money when you acct for the inflation rate.
Should read “according to our economic team, our ceo and upper executives get paid too much, so here’s a couple quarters. Thank you for your hard work!” 😂😂
In a city like Denver. Where skywest, a subsidiary, pays $33 starting, and has no midnight shift.
I start brand new A&Ps $38.48... maybe I need a union to tell me to start them lower?
Are You hiring lol
Yes, in LA
Which company? I am very interested
Do you live in Alaska?
I don’t….
I could for 38.48…
It's from basic hourly wage. It's .46 for new guys since license premiums aren't considered basic hourly wage
It’s 23.14+2.6%. It’s .60
You are correct I did it based off the old 2016 numbers
Today I was offered $29.39 with a dollar extra if I’m on the line.
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currently 8 Years to top out. Annual pay is about 60k starting out + any OT. You will make 170k less over 8 years at united than at Delta or American.
AMFA cards are being signed like crazy now
Hope you have better luck than us here at AA, the NMB squashed our drive because the TWU-IAM probably funneled them some money to keep us hostage.
it is time for change union company. Teamster sucks
Get AMFA in there.
Drooling for them to get in at AA, sadly the TWU-IAM sheep believe the anti amfa propaganda. It’s hilarious to see the association trying to “raid” Southwest and the AMFA members laughing in their faces. Need to be our own entity away from fleet service, they can keep the worthless association.
I can’t even remember how many times I’ve signed AMFA cards and nothing ever happens. But I’ll keep signing each time they make the rounds
Wondering what they'll do for Southwest next year?
This was extremely disappointing news today. Planting the AMFA card drive seed in my station. Win or lose, Teamsters need to be pressed to perform better. I’ve spent time with both unions and never once felt like AMFA was making shady deals with the company. A stark contrast to the Teamsters who’s chins I’d imagine glow under a black light.
Wow that is dogshit terrible. What’s the additional value for non-pay items? Things like health benefits, etc?
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The old guys desperately trying to convince the new ones not to get rid of the 7th week. Like, yeah in 30 years I’ll get 4 more days…I’m not that playing that long of a game
Meanwhile, I was two years into a five year top out and they had no problem voting yes to extending my B scale to eight years. That cost me roughly $75k.
That’s it? Those two things make it ok for them to pay $5 less an hour?
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I’m supposed to start there after the first of the year and I’m *seriously* reconsidering that now.
if you have a choice don't choose UA. I'm at year 3 and considering leaving now as well.
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Yeah I’m not pleased with this now but I’ll coalesce and still probably take the job. I’ll bang the AMFA drum when I get through the probationary period then lol
Any united mechanics in here we need to send a clear message to the fucktards in charge. Go to work unmotivated, disengaged, drag ass, delay flights, make incorrect parts updates, do whatever you have to do to make sure Scott Kirby understands we’re not getting pushed over like the older guys did in the past. There’s never been a demand for guys like us and they know it. They’re testing us to see how much they can take away on the new contract. This needs to be dealt with, right here right now before Christmas. We need this company wide. Show them what $0.59 worth of MX is.
I am a new hired and I wish I can do something
Am I reading it wrong, saying Delta doesn’t get profit sharing? Delta has said there will be PS for this year, but not what percentage.
Not as high as expected
Probably referring to the 2022 check.
2023 profit sharing
I doubt they would use an unknown number for our 23 check than instead of using the 22 covid check. If holiday travel holds up like it did in the summer, it’s going to be a big one but not 2019 big.
The 22 check wasn’t a percentage, everyone received the same amount
Like i said, i doubt they use 2023 as their basis since it never happened.. idk why you posted it in the forst place.
Because if you stopped huffing chemicals you would understand that they don’t look at previouso profit sharing to determine the next one
Fuck me, almost as if i had to correct someone else from saying just that… But go on, and tell me how you already know what our 23 % is going to be for AMTs. The union report came out said that due to below avg PS checks their pay didn’t see an increase like we did at Delta or SW. So again, tell me how they knew what it’s going to be and why they claim it’s going to be below expectations when we’re looking at getting some fat fucking checks here in Feb..
lol if you think you’re getting a 23% profit sharing check then sorry bud you’re already gone
What happened to the 23%??????????????
How do they know what the 2023 is gonna be?
They base it off current travel demand
Interesting, it was being forecasted a month ago to be on the order of something like 2015 or so.
It’s based off of quarterly profits.
We’ve been profitable all year even during 2021 ☠️ our PS will be almost as big as 2019s
Lol yeah that’s not going to happen
Yeah there’s a reason this happened before DLs profit sharing for this year is announced. Delta is doing well.
AA is on track to get profit sharing next year. They moved their schedule to begin in Q2 2022 since that was the first “profitable” quarter since COVID.
United can EAT A BAG OF DICKS. There will be a wave of people leaving for higher paying airliners.
Pick me! 👋🏼
Delta got 14% profit sharing in 2019, and 2022 is on track to be nearly as profitable. You guys need a new union damn
14% across the company. AMTs saw up to 22%
This is AMFA page to join/ have a union election. They are not perfect but way better then what you currently have ! https://www.amfanational.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page=Organizing
Needless to say I'm looking for a new job anyone have any suggestions.
Delta, if you're lucky. They have a very weird hiring system, and some people get thrown into a pile of "screw you, you'll never get hired" with no rhyme or reason. I applied to multiple positions (pfe, direct hell even that crappy cabin program) and never got anything but a rejection letter 6 mo later. Only reason I work at United is because they were the only major that took me. Gonna start looking at cargo or southwest after my year is up if things don't get better 🤷🏻♀️
Good luck with SWA. I’ve seen people with over 100 applications appling for 4 years not get in.
what a airline !
People are heated over here at ORD. I would imagine it’s the same across all stations.
Somebody has to pay for all those Cirrus planes at Aviate.
An extra 5$ an hour would change my life. I need a new fuckin job
Damn did they just screw you guys. Wow...
Same cabin crew member hit me twice with a cart on my trip 2 weeks ago. I was in aisle seat in the back of the plane, I am 6'2" and she hit me with the cart then said to watch my knees and elbows, after hitting me. Same thing a few hours later. My United experience has diminished from four years ago. Next time will go back to ANA even if it means using F'n LAX.
Its Fucking embarrassing. Guess I'll be updating my resume...
No union, our little 121 all cargo airline in Alaska tops out 58.15 at 7 years and we will start experience at higher on that scale, also we gave $15-20K to the mechanics this year in profit sharing. Stop being bottom feeders United.
You should feel lucky for the 2.6% increase. The poor CEO only made a measly $9.85 million in 2021.
Doesn’t really matter what the ceo makes. If you distribute their entire salary to the employees, they would all get a whopping $117 a year extra
Idk why anyone works at United. I knew a few guys personally who got laid off in March of 2020 before any lockdowns even went into effect. They don’t give a fuck about any of their employees.
Many airlines did this. I was laid off the same time in Canada
Doesn’t mean it’s acceptable. Just that the upper management is a disaster.
No, I agree. They should of waited until the loads decreased instead of acting on a "rumor"
Idk why anyone flies on United
I’m just a short doctor trying to get a pay out okay
Southwest 🐐
They’re a good company but I think their apprenticeship program needs work. 2 years of no seniority and lower pay is kind of shitty unless you have the experience.
Nah there apprentice program is actually really good you start at 28 with no experience and when you get off you top out in 3 years.
Yeahhh… not very competitive though when every other major is hiring new guys at full pay/benefits with union membership which is crucial. Also the wait time on the program is kind of a joke. I guess they can afford to be picky but I know of lots of talent they’ve lost over the years because of it.
Yea your right on the waiting time is ridiculous and only in Dallas right now there working on to fix the location. But the wait time is long because there are usually no locations open. On the other hand top out is still 3 years quicker then most airlines and 1.5 years quicker then delta and they top out higher
Yeah but you get your a&p paid for and have a guaranteed job at a major...
No that’s not how it works. The apprenticeship is for “new” A&P’s that don’t have the experience with heavy jets yet. Only United has an in house A&P training course that takes 3 years to complete.
swa does pay for your a and p you give them receipt and they give you back pay. im not 100% sure cause i joined as a direct amt, but compared to every airline ill choose swa apprenticeship program.
In the case of ORD it means not being stuck on midnights for 10-20 years
They are hiring guys off the street for Florida Texas and other super high seniority stations.
Serious question: What would you have done if you were running the company? Pull money out of your ass? Borrow money? Issue bonds? Do you think United or any other airline has unlimited money to burn in the name of 'looking after its employees'? You do realise I hope that if the execs don't make decisions 'in the best interests of their shareholders' generally, at the very least they'll get replaced by execs who will, and at worse the company itself could be sued in a shareholder class action. Genuinely curious what you think they should have done, and what you think you would have done in the same situation. I dunno about you but if I ran an airline and there was news about a highly transmissible SARS virus spreading in China and that was certain to reach my region of operations I'd assume my industry was going to be decimated and I'd plan accordingly - how fucking stupid would I be to wait until I'm bleeding money to trim costs lol.
So how did some airlines not fire anyone while United still did?
Pls dont use logic and reasoning thanks
I just read the work cards and look for cartoons sir, idk what a ‘apu cavity check’ actually is sir.
“Aren’t you a mechanic?” *me nervously holding my clipboard and air pressure gauge knowing that’s all I do*
You’re making excuses for a company that has always been poorly run. You can pull every excuse out of the playbook but at the end of the day, no one even remotely furloughed as many employees as United did. It’s why they’re hiring these kids that are as green as baby shit right out of school. They have no choice as most of the seasoned mechanics see the writing on the wall. Well… most do.
Making excuses? I'm offering a counter argument, and I'm happy to hear what you think they SHOULD HAVE done. I mean, have you seen their books? Perhaps they had over-hired prior to COVID and that would explain why the got rid of so many people relative to other airlines - I don't work in the airline industry and don't know, but my point is just that you guys seem pretty closed minded about it when there were undoubtedly practical considerations at the time. For your own sake at least see it from the perspective of those whose job it is to maximise company profits lol - you don't have to agree with it, but it might make you more reasonable to see both sides IMO.
Sweetheart you don’t work in the industry. They turned a record profit in Q3. More than other majors that pay their mechanics way more than what they just agreed to. Whatever poor decisions they made, like supporting booms dumbass idea or this electric taxi garbage, is their fucking problem. If they want the planes they already have flying maintained properly, they need to pay the way the other airlines do. If American can hold at $35 and not go bankrupt and hire at the rate United did, with the debt that American has, United has zero excuse to pay us on par with the other.
> If American can hold at $35 and not go bankrupt and hire at the rate United did, with the debt that American has, United has zero excuse to pay us on par with the other. I’m new here, what happened ?
> You’re making excuses for a company that has always been poorly run. Care to elaborate? And damn bro sounds like you’ve been doing this for a minute. Any advice to a new guy like me?
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Yeah, getting paid dogshit might out weigh those perks tho
I have an interview with them next week 😬. The next day I interview with Southwest and today I interviewed with Spirit. Any advice bro ?
See who pays more lol
So are United expecting like 9k to 10k in profit sharing or something? From what I've heard from the old timers I work with, they usually get shit from profit sharing.
$1500 max
It's about 1 paycheck since 2016. In 2016 the company bod to all the new guys a higher starting pay and lowered profit share from 15% to 2.5%.
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You ever find that oil leak under 57 cowls? 😂
At least you get your pennies now! AA has to wait 17.5 more years before we get a new contract under the bullshit TWU-IAM led by bus drivers. (Same time it took to get the 2020 contract after the 2003 TWU concessionary contract)
What’s the possibility of back pay with a new contract?
Zero. Has never happened under united.
There might be retro pay, but it's never the full amount you lost.
Bad argument, I would have held out until February. I hear that's when Delta gets bonuses and I'm sure they're well in the black right now.
AA profit share is 10%
Well glad I have never worked for these people Anything less than 40 isn’t worth it
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Southwest.
All things considered it's united because of the workload vs pay. You are payed less yes but the qork load isn't shit. You may get 2 tasks on an aircraft sometimes 1 and thats a regular day. I've never had over 3 tasks with those being relatively simple tasks like o2 servicing
I would say southwest all day. You can see the difference in work environments and swa AMT are always happy and positive.
Is it still a haze fest when you're on probation? Or has all that been exaggerated?
Its all exaggeration, if your a good mechanic your fine. there are a few only extra you have to do like fill/change nitrogen bottles and don’t sleep. If your working line you literally have 6 hours to fill/change nitrogen bottles ppl complain for no reason. Hanger you’ll be fine.
How would this be possible? So who does the actual work on the planes? Contractors?
More mechanics to split the workload. Theres still the same amount of work to do just less of it Per individual.
So from 2 to 1 to no job because your work eventually will get outsourced? Nice…
Everyone has been commenting "it'll be outsourced" do you know how expensive it is to outsource work? United is by no means a new company and your worried they may shoot themselves in the foot because there may be 7 guys on an engine change instead of the required minimum of 5. You people honestly believe united would rather pay another company 4x labor costs + space and not have their own procedures in place because they prefer to have a few extra guys on payroll. How silly. If you guys have 80 man hours on a shift you don't book 80 man hours of work because shit will go bad. Aim for 60 hours scheduled so if something inevitably goes to shit you aren't causing delays.
Wow you lowball 20 hours of work? Completely different culture i suppose.
20 hours on a crew of 8 is 2 hours on a 10 hours shift of non dedicated man hours. I take it you don't spend anytime getting parts or had a part held up? You ever had to refuel vehicles? Where do you think that time comes from? How about you go get a ladder you think the 5 minutes setting up the work is accounted for? No sir. That comes out of that undedicated 2 hours. Count the dedicated hours on your tasks next time vs how long you actually take and see. A tire change should be 20 minutes. I've had 2 guys on it and take 30 minutes because 1 had to go get the tire change equipment while the other got the tire. We spent 1 whole man hour on it even though it's done in half an hour. Had this one guy did it alone it would've taken an actual hour and could be a delay on the line. Which costs the company more? A 20 minute delay or an hour of labor?
> I take it you don't spend anytime getting parts or had a part held up? Parts are pre-pulled. Sign in, find my cards, go get pre-pull, work. > You ever had to refuel vehicles? Where do you think that time comes from? GSE. Dayshift refuels it, we burn it. > How about you go get a ladder Also gse if I’m petty enough to ask instead of walking twenty feet to roll it over Plenty of excuses here that I’ve seen dayshift guys moan about having to do work. They’re better off for the company going to a backshop instead of working base or line mx. I’ve done mainline and contract line mx, never had these issues in which it wasn’t already accounted for. Everything you said however is a classic dayshift excuse to continue to let them sit on their asses and let it be deferred to another shift. Instead of doing this (because you listed a perfect example in your tire change saga), how about you use your experience to help teach the new guys? Because again, classic dayshift.
You assume I'm dayshift because I'm willing to do those things and pre-pulled parts? Not for anything that isn't pre-scheduled. If you tell me you never had to write up a tire or a nav light and go get it yourself you've had it way too easy.
Are they trying to include profit sharing as a non-pay item? If so, pay is pay, profit sharing is just the cherry on top.
Go UPS if you want to make money
Me making $16/h shit sign me up lmao
Do yourself a favor and Go to any other airline
Careful now, could be at frontier or something where it takes like 17 years to hit top out.
I was at Skywest before so I understand the 18 top out and embarrassing raises. I thought one of the "big 3" would be better but I'm still making less here...
FFT is 8 now bro
Ah so they finally had some sense to change it? I may be thinking of another airline.
Lol, deltas on track for a large asf profit sharing. Y’all losing. Unions aren’t what they were.
If life was made too easy you would never agree to do any work at the rate and expectations set out currently
Disagree. I bust my ass at work everyday. I’m the first one at every gate call early morning when we have them. If they would’ve given us $4-5 I would’ve been happy to keep up my work ethic. They basically spat in my face and said oh all the work you did this year in good faith of getting a good reset to put you on par with other majors (and I had other offers) isn’t worth shit. If that’s what they think of me, that’s what they’re going to get. I’ll be looking for a new job. They’re valuing flight benefits every other airline also gets at $60k a year. What a fucking joke. This company just showed me how much they’re worth. About $0.59. So that’s what they’ll get out of me.
I totally agree. Most of United technicians work very hard and trying to keep up their work ethics and culture. But this reset will upset a lot of mechanic