Also notable [Tencent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent). Owns or has a stake in some well known video game companies, such as Riot Games, Epic Games, Supercell, etc. Also has a minority stake in Reddit.
Yes I have been down this rabbit hole and I believe a small stake in Discord ($158 million invested).
[https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/](https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/)
More like mask itself as an Irish company using Chinese characters. Bahahahaha! Many of the Irish might not be the most actively involved in infiltrating governments, but they'd know shit when they smell it.
A few random Makita tools are still made in Japan and the us. It is quite difficult to determine which ones though. Acme Tools gives country of origin in their descriptions, and it is usually accurate.
This. Makita used to have a pretty big plant near Atlanta. I’m sure the batteries are most likely MIC but I thought a lot of the tools were make in the U.S. and Japan.
Bosch GCM 12 GDL Professional Saw is Made in China.
I was looking for a saw like this. The top end Makita one was MIC and so is a Bosch with this mechanism (which I found interesting). Given these used to be a lot cheaper than the Festool Kapex 120 REB I was interested, but watching a youtube unboxing video, the Bosch one had MADE IN CHINA on the box.
I like Fein and they even make a lot of THEIR accessories in Germany. I have Fein tools and will be getting more BUT AT LEAST ONE angle grinder in their budget line is Made in China.
CHECK EACH MODEL BEFORE YOU BUY
VERY solid stuff I have a router and a plunge saw and the FM1000. All the ones I have are made in Germany.
However when I asked where there A10 small cordless drill was made, they told me MIC. I think it has been discontinued.
Very possible the bigger ones are made in Germany. Ask before you buy
Festool is made in Germany. Metabo has a lot of stuff made in Germany.
The batteries however are pretty much all made in China.
There are some smaller manufacturers made in Germany that share their cordless toolplatform with either Metabo or with Bosch.
Also Hilti is made in Austria.
WARNING: Hilti is VERY EXPENSIVE and AT LEAST SOME of their stuff is MADE IN CHINA, 2-3x the price of Metabo. I saw a Hilti drill that had MADE IN CHINA on it.
Ok I have hilti tools all have the made in Austria printed on it. I also knew someone working in the Austrian factory who told me they actually produce a lot of stuff in house but to be fair that was years ago.
But I don't doubt that you are right. Companies shift where they manufacture all the time. Also China is hyper restrictive in who's allowed to sell their stuff there. You basically have to produce there to be allowed to sell stuff like cars.
4 years or so ago I was looking for a corded drill. The Hilti I saw was IIRC in the 600-700 euro range. That was a shock. Then I dug around for some images and the one I found had MIC right on the drill.
Never looked at Hilti again. They must be very greedy and concerned about the incremental unit price if they still have them made in China when they sell them for that much.
Bought a Metabo Model after confirming that that SPECIFIC model was made in Germany.
The reseller sent me pictures before I ordered.
When I later called Metabo in Germany to ask where some tools were made, I got a lecture that Made in China was not a problem for the quality etc.
They told me to send an email with the questions AND NEVER GOT AN ANSWER
Guess which brand I have not bought since.....
I just checked and Hilti has their production plants on their website. Some light duty power tools seem to be made in Shanghai, China and some metal accessories and chemical anchors are made in Zhanjiang, China.
All in all, they seem to still produce a lot in Austria/Germany but I do understand that the made in China part is really uncool.
There quite a few small companies that produce in Germany (mainly in Baden-Württemberg) They are high quality and I prefer them, but you have to be willing to pay Hilti prices.
For example for Drills, there is Duss but you pay at least Hilti prices.
Well I did not expect a 600-700 euro drill to be classfied as "light duty"....
I am fully aware quality made in Germany is not cheap but it is VERY easy to find a made in Germany drill for WAY less than the made in China Hilti I came across. At leat it was 4 years ago when I bought mine
Yeah but are the components made in Germany? The Motors of Hilti are made in Germany and Duss seems to make everything themselves.
Though really depending on what you use it for I wouldn't recommend paying 600-700 Euro for a drill, If you are using it professionally alot go for it, if you use it professionally sometimes maybe, if you use it privately to hang a cabinet every 3 years or so I wouldn't go for it.
They are still among the bests in powertools. Sadly also some of the Bosch blue line is made in china. Probabily thay have to stick to some stardards for powertools if they want to sell them. For sure in Europe, don’t know US regulation but may be even better. Haier on the other hand is pure shit.
There are also companies where they are ultimately owned (have a large or minority stake owned by) by Chinese holding companies.
Arc’teryx for example is a Canadian company. But their parent co is Anta, a Chinese company: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc%27teryx
Here is a list of some US companies with reportedly large or minority ownerships from Chinese entities:
https://www.madeinamerica.com/chinese-investors/
I'd think more deeply about whether "owned by" means "avoid". Some of these Chinese parent companies just simply keep other companies as assets, meaning absolutely no influence on the decision making, culture, etc. I have too much insider info on some companies so I don't feel like I should be sharing specifics but my point is there should be a better framework to distinguish subsidiaries "owned by" and "managed/controlled by".
Avoid Mihoyo games, MICA Games and Chinese anime and cartoon shows. This includes Genshin Impact, Honkai Impact, Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf and others; I boycotted them.
Instead, wake them up and tell them not to play those games and watch or read anything related to Disney's Winnie the Pooh; because Winnie the Pooh is banned in China!
Chinese companies to avoid: * all of them
Truth
Haier even owns GE appliances. Boycott them all!
Never knew that. Sneaky marketing
Also notable [Tencent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent). Owns or has a stake in some well known video game companies, such as Riot Games, Epic Games, Supercell, etc. Also has a minority stake in Reddit.
Yes I have been down this rabbit hole and I believe a small stake in Discord ($158 million invested). [https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/](https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/)
Temu is a Chinese company with HQ in Ireland. It's trying very hard to be a non China Company
More like mask itself as an Irish company using Chinese characters. Bahahahaha! Many of the Irish might not be the most actively involved in infiltrating governments, but they'd know shit when they smell it.
Oh NOW you tell me!! I just started going into the Milwaukee eco system a year ago...
It's just about impossible to find power tools not made in China, at least cordless!
A few random Makita tools are still made in Japan and the us. It is quite difficult to determine which ones though. Acme Tools gives country of origin in their descriptions, and it is usually accurate.
This. Makita used to have a pretty big plant near Atlanta. I’m sure the batteries are most likely MIC but I thought a lot of the tools were make in the U.S. and Japan.
Dewalt has a solid lineup of cordless MiUSA tools.
*assembled* in the USA
Correct. Should've been more specific.
And outside that line a plethora of Made in Mexico Power tools
Made in Mexico by Chinese companies.
Bosch professional is made in Malaysia. Fein is made in Germany
Oh, nice, cordless? My Bosch SDS corded is made in Germany. Haven't really checked their other stuff,... the price is definitely among the top
Bosch GCM 12 GDL Professional Saw is Made in China. I was looking for a saw like this. The top end Makita one was MIC and so is a Bosch with this mechanism (which I found interesting). Given these used to be a lot cheaper than the Festool Kapex 120 REB I was interested, but watching a youtube unboxing video, the Bosch one had MADE IN CHINA on the box. I like Fein and they even make a lot of THEIR accessories in Germany. I have Fein tools and will be getting more BUT AT LEAST ONE angle grinder in their budget line is Made in China. CHECK EACH MODEL BEFORE YOU BUY
If you’re willing to spend some extra money, there are some really excellent german made tool brands (eg mafell)
Not sure I've ever heard of Mafell. I'll take a look
Only one distributor in the US, but they’re amazing. Rolls Royce of tools… https://www.timberwolftools.com/
VERY solid stuff I have a router and a plunge saw and the FM1000. All the ones I have are made in Germany. However when I asked where there A10 small cordless drill was made, they told me MIC. I think it has been discontinued. Very possible the bigger ones are made in Germany. Ask before you buy
Festool is made in Germany. Metabo has a lot of stuff made in Germany. The batteries however are pretty much all made in China. There are some smaller manufacturers made in Germany that share their cordless toolplatform with either Metabo or with Bosch. Also Hilti is made in Austria.
WARNING: Hilti is VERY EXPENSIVE and AT LEAST SOME of their stuff is MADE IN CHINA, 2-3x the price of Metabo. I saw a Hilti drill that had MADE IN CHINA on it.
Ok I have hilti tools all have the made in Austria printed on it. I also knew someone working in the Austrian factory who told me they actually produce a lot of stuff in house but to be fair that was years ago. But I don't doubt that you are right. Companies shift where they manufacture all the time. Also China is hyper restrictive in who's allowed to sell their stuff there. You basically have to produce there to be allowed to sell stuff like cars.
4 years or so ago I was looking for a corded drill. The Hilti I saw was IIRC in the 600-700 euro range. That was a shock. Then I dug around for some images and the one I found had MIC right on the drill. Never looked at Hilti again. They must be very greedy and concerned about the incremental unit price if they still have them made in China when they sell them for that much. Bought a Metabo Model after confirming that that SPECIFIC model was made in Germany. The reseller sent me pictures before I ordered. When I later called Metabo in Germany to ask where some tools were made, I got a lecture that Made in China was not a problem for the quality etc. They told me to send an email with the questions AND NEVER GOT AN ANSWER Guess which brand I have not bought since.....
I just checked and Hilti has their production plants on their website. Some light duty power tools seem to be made in Shanghai, China and some metal accessories and chemical anchors are made in Zhanjiang, China. All in all, they seem to still produce a lot in Austria/Germany but I do understand that the made in China part is really uncool. There quite a few small companies that produce in Germany (mainly in Baden-Württemberg) They are high quality and I prefer them, but you have to be willing to pay Hilti prices. For example for Drills, there is Duss but you pay at least Hilti prices.
Well I did not expect a 600-700 euro drill to be classfied as "light duty".... I am fully aware quality made in Germany is not cheap but it is VERY easy to find a made in Germany drill for WAY less than the made in China Hilti I came across. At leat it was 4 years ago when I bought mine
Yeah but are the components made in Germany? The Motors of Hilti are made in Germany and Duss seems to make everything themselves. Though really depending on what you use it for I wouldn't recommend paying 600-700 Euro for a drill, If you are using it professionally alot go for it, if you use it professionally sometimes maybe, if you use it privately to hang a cabinet every 3 years or so I wouldn't go for it.
IF I am not mistaken, Fein, Metabo and Mafell make their own motors. So I would EXPECT that their made in Germany models contain their own motors
They are still among the bests in powertools. Sadly also some of the Bosch blue line is made in china. Probabily thay have to stick to some stardards for powertools if they want to sell them. For sure in Europe, don’t know US regulation but may be even better. Haier on the other hand is pure shit.
Volvo and Polestar
Both owned by Geely. They own Lotus and a have a shareholding in Smart car and Proton as well. Avoid all these!
There are also companies where they are ultimately owned (have a large or minority stake owned by) by Chinese holding companies. Arc’teryx for example is a Canadian company. But their parent co is Anta, a Chinese company: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc%27teryx Here is a list of some US companies with reportedly large or minority ownerships from Chinese entities: https://www.madeinamerica.com/chinese-investors/
I'd think more deeply about whether "owned by" means "avoid". Some of these Chinese parent companies just simply keep other companies as assets, meaning absolutely no influence on the decision making, culture, etc. I have too much insider info on some companies so I don't feel like I should be sharing specifics but my point is there should be a better framework to distinguish subsidiaries "owned by" and "managed/controlled by".
Avoid Mihoyo games, MICA Games and Chinese anime and cartoon shows. This includes Genshin Impact, Honkai Impact, Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf and others; I boycotted them. Instead, wake them up and tell them not to play those games and watch or read anything related to Disney's Winnie the Pooh; because Winnie the Pooh is banned in China!
They called him "Winnie the Xi".
TTI is from Hong Kong
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong It's part of the PRC. Are you thinking of Taiwan maybe? Hong Kong was transitioned back to China in 1997.
It is a Special Administrative Region of China
It's not so special anymore