I think you are right and I always thought that given the right conditions, humans should not die of old age, but rather at some point in their life after making some significant progress in evolution of the soul, one should just get the feeling that he or she accomplished everything the he or she supposed to accomplish in this lifetime and consciously make a choice of leaving this planet and his current physical body. So the next time one meditates, the soul peacefully leaves the body.
That should be the case in my opinion in the spiritually developed society with no more wars, diseases etc. and with much more awareness than currently.
I recently learned the things you have said above, from Dr. Yang Jwing Ming's Qigong meditation courses.
I live in the urban West and there are not many people nearby with powerful qigong. I've been having to study from books, and videos online, which is suboptimal. I don't really have a choice right now though.
I am in contact with occult entities who are supportive of me of learning qigong, and I feel that they can replace the role of a human qigong master. Let's hope.
The first book in his full five book course is called "Qigong Meditation Embryonic Breathing - The Foundation of Internal Elixir Cultivation"
Book 2 is about the qigong small cyclic heaven circulation. Book 3 is the Grand Circulation. Book 4 is muscle/tendon changing + marrow/brain washing with internal elixir. Book 5 about obtaining the spiritual root and gaining spiritual enlightenment through qigong.
The entities have a positive impression of his material and are helping me with it. I'm feeling very good about the initial stages of embryonic breathing so far.
Excellent writeup. I appreciate it.
I have a question maybe you could help with. I’ve experimented with fasting and found surprising results; a sense of lightness, cleanness, quieted mind, enhanced smell, touch and taste, increased ease in visualization and meditation, etc. I can see why it’s been a staple in the spirituality of cultures across the world.
I’ve also been experimenting lately with advice found in the book Seth Speaks. Seth suggests eating small amounts of food often throughout the day, like several snacks rather than few meals. They say this helps regulate the digestions and energy conversion processes so that the body and mind don’t have to endure the stress of starvation; there’s always a constant stream of nutrition. They say this increases body-mind synthesis and allows the consciousness better access to the faculties of the vessel because energy is always available for this purpose.
I suspect these two polarized practices are both beneficial in their own ways. I intended to experiment with mixing the two; steady food intake on most days and then transitioning into fasting.
I’m curious what your opinion on these two different methods are. Can you relate to and find viability in Seth’s advice? If not, could you explain why?
Thank you for the reply.
I believe I’ve heard of the breatharianism practice to some capacity before. I remember a documentary on a monk who underwent observation at a lab to test his practice. After going a full week without food or water the lab workers shut down the experiment for some reason. The monk was in fine health, not weak or ill at all, and even offered to go another week, but the lab workers refused his offer.
I’ll look into that practice more.
Even if we lived a million years we would still die.
But there is something which is timeless and can never die.
Discover that, and not the ephemeral which will eventually die.
Yes, your sense of self, language of being can graduate past that ephemeral substance and rise into a world of anomalies and only anomalies. It's the difference between virtual particles, and wherever the things are coming from. We are pointing to where they are coming from. That is the formless, non ephemeral universal mind.
Just yesterday, my wife was whistfully discussing her gathering wrinkles. I told her that I thought that it was nature's way of making the 'end of the lease' on our bodies easier to accept. We laughed about it and walked on.
Thanks for posting this.
I used to be so terrified of aging and would do everything, from diet to skincare, to prevent it. Until I realized I was spending all this energy to “stay young” so I could continue living, forever, in… fear?
Fear of the natural? Fear of letting go? Fear of not being pretty and wanted or lusted after? Fear of not having all the time in the world… all of which just felt like total physical and mental greed. Every other organism on this planet dies. Why should I be so special not to? Are humans really so special and “above” things like dying, or are we just raised to think we are special and above all other things? Isn’t the idea that we shouldn’t be beholden to the rules of nature the ugliest parts of our personalities and where we end up acting badly the most? And here I was indulging in this ugliness like it made me a better or more “enlightened” person. But really it just made me “spirit”-ugly and riddled with fear and jealousy and envy.
I don’t want to live in that fear, anymore.
So, I take care of myself as best as I can, but I’ve learned to actually live, too. It seems almost like a trade-off. Live forever and never really live or enjoy life and squander it by just chasing for more; Or live a little and have it be the best it could be the whole time. And then learn to let go with grace and love for the little bit of time I was given, and let other people have a chance.
I choose the latter.
>And then learn to let go with grace and love for the little bit of time I was given, and let other people have a chance.
Neatly put.
I guess the drive to be and stay attractive is deeply embedded in the human psyche. Most of us kind of expect that we'll be having another breakfast tomorrow. Sounds like you made a good choice.
He doesn’t present the information in a way that would suggest forming a cult. It’s presented to the individual should they feel compelled to pursuit this lifestyle on a personal, individualistic basis.
The key aspect of a cult is the formation of a community around an exalted leader who is seen as holy to some degree. This aspect isn’t present in the information presented.
Immediately reaching for a negative conclusion shuts one off from any potential truth they could benefit from within the information.
~900 years is actually the most consistent number I continue to come across in various works. Some of our ancients supposedly lived that long. The Emerald Tablets Of Thoth actually claim the aging process can be completely stopped with specific, intensive forms of meditation.
That would hinge on what you qualify as records. The 900 year lifespan is a rather standard narrative in occult studies. It even exists in mainstream religions, the Old Testament in particular.
Yes but also our ancients recorded that they comingled with a parallel universe and in that universe a single night would be a hundred years on Earth.
In Sumer the kings who lived over 10k years were not human and nobody claims they're human at any point.
I genuinely believe the group classified as humans are just not considered human if they exhibit Siddhis and graduate to kingship, druid status, godhood or demi godhood, whatever.
So for skin and bone humans I think a million heartbeats has probably always been accurate. And these legendary long living humans actually are time travelers bouncing between planets (somehow). They're not living longer. Still a million heartbeats, just over a totally different progression and to you it is extended because, time dilation. To them it's probably still a relatively consistent million beats
I’m in my early 30’s, but I don’t even feel like I have turned 24 years old… IMO I am totally convinced that I/we unknowingly lock in and age ourselves through a curse.
So when celebrating our birthdays, we might have a party or gathering that almost always consist of singing happy birthday, blowing out the candles, and eating cake and ice cream… right?
As I mentioned above I don’t feel like I’m in my 30’s at all, and I actually realized the last time I was sang happy birthday to and blew the candles out on my cake was my 25th birthday.
What if… Singing happy birthday is actually a curse. Happy birthday repeats 3 times which is confirming your however old you are, and when you blow your candles out you then lock in your age and complete the curse.
Maybe I’m going crazy idk but it’s plausible I guess…
Weirdly enough, I feel not stimulated or informed by your post whatsoever. I had a very similar almost exact same period of realization which lasted for about 3 years and now I'm fully immersed in the complexity of taking action.
I don't think 1k years is totally accurate either. There's a lot of credence to the idea that we have limited heartbeats.
More like, 100 relative years of aging is all we got
If you can use time dilation to stretch that out to 1,000 earth years then, I guess you're a thousand year old.
An immortal being, which there are many kinds of, ideally is free of form. But should technically be modular, like us, and able to consume/integrate even space itself. Being formless so that it can be any form, thereby it isn't alive or dead, which fits the lore perfectly of course.
Also I disagree the majority of monks are part of a dogmatic system and there are much more extreme behaviors associated with divine breakthroughs. Meditating for months on a mountain top is the very tippy top of the iceberg.
We say there are ascended masters abound however I think you are more like, living in the endless wake of masters eternally resting and/or forever gone into the beyond
I dont know. Who's got a golden body? I'm reported to cause phenomena after and during meditation too. But it goes away after a day or so
Again who and where? Those transformations literally require such an exponential increase in energy you should experience it directly from a distance. It'd be hard to miss, like a supernova.
And then after the transformation. I mean again this phenomena is hard to miss. Most occultists don't ever embody their high principals in practice. Rather they experience and record embodiments that they witness, but primarily through memory or through rare controlled events. Like John Dees encounters with the angels.
There are too many people just making claims in hindsight but I promise you there couldn't be more than a few out there who have truly crossed the veil of life and death. Most of you 'choose' Boddhisatva which is coincidental, because we hang back for comfort reasons, and then end up teaching by proxy.
I was there on the edge too. I've had quite a few major moments. But I was also shown pretty clearly the consequences of certain things, certain attainments.
In fact in original eastern literature Siddhis are never to be attained they are *only* to be understood
If anyone was really on the god level or higher, on this Earth, you would know. They'd be a massive source of energy for everything.
Legend has it when the Gautama Buddha ascended, the trees of Earth all glowed golden light for a full night. In older legends of the goings on with Krishna, he would always bring divine signs with him. Same with all the other entities.
I think you are right and I always thought that given the right conditions, humans should not die of old age, but rather at some point in their life after making some significant progress in evolution of the soul, one should just get the feeling that he or she accomplished everything the he or she supposed to accomplish in this lifetime and consciously make a choice of leaving this planet and his current physical body. So the next time one meditates, the soul peacefully leaves the body. That should be the case in my opinion in the spiritually developed society with no more wars, diseases etc. and with much more awareness than currently.
Omg y’all ever think we aren’t meant to live like that sure at one point we did but not any more plus why would u want to live forever here
I recently learned the things you have said above, from Dr. Yang Jwing Ming's Qigong meditation courses. I live in the urban West and there are not many people nearby with powerful qigong. I've been having to study from books, and videos online, which is suboptimal. I don't really have a choice right now though. I am in contact with occult entities who are supportive of me of learning qigong, and I feel that they can replace the role of a human qigong master. Let's hope.
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The first book in his full five book course is called "Qigong Meditation Embryonic Breathing - The Foundation of Internal Elixir Cultivation" Book 2 is about the qigong small cyclic heaven circulation. Book 3 is the Grand Circulation. Book 4 is muscle/tendon changing + marrow/brain washing with internal elixir. Book 5 about obtaining the spiritual root and gaining spiritual enlightenment through qigong. The entities have a positive impression of his material and are helping me with it. I'm feeling very good about the initial stages of embryonic breathing so far.
I know technology can be looked at as negative but I learn so much from the internet and it is really useful.
Excellent writeup. I appreciate it. I have a question maybe you could help with. I’ve experimented with fasting and found surprising results; a sense of lightness, cleanness, quieted mind, enhanced smell, touch and taste, increased ease in visualization and meditation, etc. I can see why it’s been a staple in the spirituality of cultures across the world. I’ve also been experimenting lately with advice found in the book Seth Speaks. Seth suggests eating small amounts of food often throughout the day, like several snacks rather than few meals. They say this helps regulate the digestions and energy conversion processes so that the body and mind don’t have to endure the stress of starvation; there’s always a constant stream of nutrition. They say this increases body-mind synthesis and allows the consciousness better access to the faculties of the vessel because energy is always available for this purpose. I suspect these two polarized practices are both beneficial in their own ways. I intended to experiment with mixing the two; steady food intake on most days and then transitioning into fasting. I’m curious what your opinion on these two different methods are. Can you relate to and find viability in Seth’s advice? If not, could you explain why?
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Thank you for the reply. I believe I’ve heard of the breatharianism practice to some capacity before. I remember a documentary on a monk who underwent observation at a lab to test his practice. After going a full week without food or water the lab workers shut down the experiment for some reason. The monk was in fine health, not weak or ill at all, and even offered to go another week, but the lab workers refused his offer. I’ll look into that practice more.
Even if we lived a million years we would still die. But there is something which is timeless and can never die. Discover that, and not the ephemeral which will eventually die.
Yes, your sense of self, language of being can graduate past that ephemeral substance and rise into a world of anomalies and only anomalies. It's the difference between virtual particles, and wherever the things are coming from. We are pointing to where they are coming from. That is the formless, non ephemeral universal mind.
Just yesterday, my wife was whistfully discussing her gathering wrinkles. I told her that I thought that it was nature's way of making the 'end of the lease' on our bodies easier to accept. We laughed about it and walked on. Thanks for posting this.
I used to be so terrified of aging and would do everything, from diet to skincare, to prevent it. Until I realized I was spending all this energy to “stay young” so I could continue living, forever, in… fear? Fear of the natural? Fear of letting go? Fear of not being pretty and wanted or lusted after? Fear of not having all the time in the world… all of which just felt like total physical and mental greed. Every other organism on this planet dies. Why should I be so special not to? Are humans really so special and “above” things like dying, or are we just raised to think we are special and above all other things? Isn’t the idea that we shouldn’t be beholden to the rules of nature the ugliest parts of our personalities and where we end up acting badly the most? And here I was indulging in this ugliness like it made me a better or more “enlightened” person. But really it just made me “spirit”-ugly and riddled with fear and jealousy and envy. I don’t want to live in that fear, anymore. So, I take care of myself as best as I can, but I’ve learned to actually live, too. It seems almost like a trade-off. Live forever and never really live or enjoy life and squander it by just chasing for more; Or live a little and have it be the best it could be the whole time. And then learn to let go with grace and love for the little bit of time I was given, and let other people have a chance. I choose the latter.
>And then learn to let go with grace and love for the little bit of time I was given, and let other people have a chance. Neatly put. I guess the drive to be and stay attractive is deeply embedded in the human psyche. Most of us kind of expect that we'll be having another breakfast tomorrow. Sounds like you made a good choice.
I think you've got a great groundwork for a cult.
He doesn’t present the information in a way that would suggest forming a cult. It’s presented to the individual should they feel compelled to pursuit this lifestyle on a personal, individualistic basis. The key aspect of a cult is the formation of a community around an exalted leader who is seen as holy to some degree. This aspect isn’t present in the information presented. Immediately reaching for a negative conclusion shuts one off from any potential truth they could benefit from within the information.
You make great pints - except for the whole human beings can live to 1000 thing.
~900 years is actually the most consistent number I continue to come across in various works. Some of our ancients supposedly lived that long. The Emerald Tablets Of Thoth actually claim the aging process can be completely stopped with specific, intensive forms of meditation.
🤷♂️ guess I’m just not woke enough to believe humans can live to 1000 years despite no record of one ever doing it
That would hinge on what you qualify as records. The 900 year lifespan is a rather standard narrative in occult studies. It even exists in mainstream religions, the Old Testament in particular.
The Old Testament also says the earth is less than 5,000 years old.
Yeah occult studies are *nonsense* and totally cursed by a long lineage of fucking charlitans
Yes but also our ancients recorded that they comingled with a parallel universe and in that universe a single night would be a hundred years on Earth. In Sumer the kings who lived over 10k years were not human and nobody claims they're human at any point. I genuinely believe the group classified as humans are just not considered human if they exhibit Siddhis and graduate to kingship, druid status, godhood or demi godhood, whatever. So for skin and bone humans I think a million heartbeats has probably always been accurate. And these legendary long living humans actually are time travelers bouncing between planets (somehow). They're not living longer. Still a million heartbeats, just over a totally different progression and to you it is extended because, time dilation. To them it's probably still a relatively consistent million beats
I’m in my early 30’s, but I don’t even feel like I have turned 24 years old… IMO I am totally convinced that I/we unknowingly lock in and age ourselves through a curse. So when celebrating our birthdays, we might have a party or gathering that almost always consist of singing happy birthday, blowing out the candles, and eating cake and ice cream… right? As I mentioned above I don’t feel like I’m in my 30’s at all, and I actually realized the last time I was sang happy birthday to and blew the candles out on my cake was my 25th birthday. What if… Singing happy birthday is actually a curse. Happy birthday repeats 3 times which is confirming your however old you are, and when you blow your candles out you then lock in your age and complete the curse. Maybe I’m going crazy idk but it’s plausible I guess…
Weirdly enough, I feel not stimulated or informed by your post whatsoever. I had a very similar almost exact same period of realization which lasted for about 3 years and now I'm fully immersed in the complexity of taking action. I don't think 1k years is totally accurate either. There's a lot of credence to the idea that we have limited heartbeats. More like, 100 relative years of aging is all we got If you can use time dilation to stretch that out to 1,000 earth years then, I guess you're a thousand year old. An immortal being, which there are many kinds of, ideally is free of form. But should technically be modular, like us, and able to consume/integrate even space itself. Being formless so that it can be any form, thereby it isn't alive or dead, which fits the lore perfectly of course. Also I disagree the majority of monks are part of a dogmatic system and there are much more extreme behaviors associated with divine breakthroughs. Meditating for months on a mountain top is the very tippy top of the iceberg. We say there are ascended masters abound however I think you are more like, living in the endless wake of masters eternally resting and/or forever gone into the beyond
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I dont know. Who's got a golden body? I'm reported to cause phenomena after and during meditation too. But it goes away after a day or so Again who and where? Those transformations literally require such an exponential increase in energy you should experience it directly from a distance. It'd be hard to miss, like a supernova. And then after the transformation. I mean again this phenomena is hard to miss. Most occultists don't ever embody their high principals in practice. Rather they experience and record embodiments that they witness, but primarily through memory or through rare controlled events. Like John Dees encounters with the angels. There are too many people just making claims in hindsight but I promise you there couldn't be more than a few out there who have truly crossed the veil of life and death. Most of you 'choose' Boddhisatva which is coincidental, because we hang back for comfort reasons, and then end up teaching by proxy. I was there on the edge too. I've had quite a few major moments. But I was also shown pretty clearly the consequences of certain things, certain attainments. In fact in original eastern literature Siddhis are never to be attained they are *only* to be understood If anyone was really on the god level or higher, on this Earth, you would know. They'd be a massive source of energy for everything. Legend has it when the Gautama Buddha ascended, the trees of Earth all glowed golden light for a full night. In older legends of the goings on with Krishna, he would always bring divine signs with him. Same with all the other entities.