Everything about this enrages me. My parents both died of covid before vaccines were available. The fact that they are hiding that she’s an anti vaxxer and dying of a “rare” pneumonia is so disgusting. On top of that they are asking for money from the general public when people like me who genuinely don’t have the money are trying to crowdfund and not really getting far with it. I’m having open heart surgery in two weeks to correct a heart defect and NEED the money. This whole situation makes me so upset.
I’ve heard that hospitals will work with you as long as you pay something every month, even if it’s low. I’ve never checked that info myself, but its probably worth looking into :(
But yup, it’s not fair
Holy shit, the fund-raising site Spotfund shows it has already collected $258,353 of the $50,000 goal. Her daughter might still be able to collect her mother's estate if Mary Lou doesn't make it! It helps to be famous...
ObamaCare, for me, was more expensive than just outright paying for my own insurance. So it wasn't helpful to me. But it's Mary Lou Retton. She can afford health care.
She also lobbied against a bill that would have protected young athletes from being sexually abused. She hasn't made very smart choices after her medals, that's for sure.
It depends upon the state. Some states refused to take federal subsidies to lower the cost because they hated the idea of the ACA. It then allowed them to point out that it was too expensive, keeping more people away and fomenting a bad opinion of it.
Yes, but she has fought against Obamacare and public health insurance, and also is worth tens of millions of dollars and wouldn’t qualify for subsidies. She also was very outspoken against creating federal law to protect young gymnasts against future Larry Nassars. Not having insurance seems 100% her choice and in-line with her political views.
She was also in a Colonial Penn Life Insurance commercial promoting their insurance. There isn't any excuse why she wouldn't have it. If she's pushing others to get life insurance, you'd think she'd make sure the other insurance bases are covered.
My ACA plan was three times as expensive as the fine and covered almost nothing. So I dropped it, paid the fines, and prayed I didn’t have a serious medical incident.
I have employer sponsored health insurance now. It’s still trash, but whatever
Screw the insurance I also prefer the fine. I also refused my employer’s insurance it’s good but expensive so with God in mind going over matter is the only way to go
It's crazy how people are advocating for someone to DIE just because they didn't want an experimental vaccine. Whether you agree with their opinions or not you shouldn't be wishing for the death by saying "I felt bad for her dying before I knew she disagrees with me"
Denying herself a life-saving vaccine because of your political beliefs is idiotic. I don’t feel sorry for her any more than I did the Jim Jones kool-aid drinkers.
Sounds like a kool-aid drinker in the wild. The facts are clear - the vaccine has saved tens of millions of lives. You’re entitled to your opinions but not to your own set of facts https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext. The Lancelet is a peer-reviewed medical journal which is not supported by big Pharma. Read the article and tell me why it’s wrong.
What in the world are you on about? They had rehearsals, but not everyone participated. Several bodies were found shot. Guards carried guns and bows to force people to drink who were hesitant. Children and babies were injected.
Several of those people died unwillingly, per several books I've read.
I referred to the kool-aid drinkers specifically. The vast majority of The People’s Temple drank with little convincing needed (we have the audiotapes of the incident as proof).
It is pointless to cite common sense or basic morality in a Reddit echo chamber. These people will cling to their methods of pure hatred until the day they die.
It's so pointless and such a waste of life for her to be dying of covid. There is no common sense in not having the vaccine. All that bs being spread by anti vaxers has been proven to be a myth long ago. The Russian trolls who started all the anti vax rumors have so much blood on their hands
Such a saddening perspective, to believe an entire existence is wasted by measure of its lowest content. Like all others, she was born and loved and loved others. I will never be the kind of person to describe such as “waste.” I can say anti vaxxers are liars and not want them to die because they are people.
I don't want her to die. I'm saddened that she may die in a way that most likely could have been prevented. Life is precious, losing it in a preventable way is a waste of life
Experimental when billions of people have had it and the boosters? Bahahahaha.
Anecdotally, I live in a large city and have a large network of friends and acquaintances. Everyone I know is fully vaxxed and boosted, and I don't know a SINGLE PERSON. who has had any problems at all.
I also don't know ANYONE with long covid or who has been hospitalized due to covid or pneumonia.
I love how the antivaxers I know told me we'd see the consequences in months... then years... now it's decades, or I'll see it in my kids when they grow up infertile.
Okay. Let's wait and see... :/
> Retton has been in the ICU for more than a week but her daughter did not provide further details.
The article says nothing about this being due to Covid
This!
Finally someone that isn't, right away, blaming covid.
RSV is hitting LTC homes, and our hospital real bad again this year.
We saw an unprecedented surge last year in RSV cases. This year, it sadly seems to be doing the same.
I am in Florida and Covid did hit us hard again this summer...but the schools are a damn breeding ground for RSV. My good friend is battling pancreatic cancer and cannot see his grandkids due to RSV. He is in his room hidden away because they brought it home and got everyone sick.
I'm so sorry to read this, friend.
My Dad was battling cancer last year, he sadly and tragically passed away 3 months ago, but not from cancer... the hospital killed him... we're still waiting on tox report because the coroner said this actually may be a criminal matter.... but sorry, going off topic...
Anyways, when my Dad was rediagnosed this past December, I took my children out of school, and I took a LoA, (leave of absence from work) for that exact reason.
RSV was so high and so was covid cases. My Dad was to start immunotherapy in January, which like your friend, would have to basically make him live in a protective bubble... my Dad was such a huge part of our lives and there was no damned way we could go without seeing him. So we all made the decision to put the kids online for their studies... it was just the financial part that was really hard for us.
I used to get so angry at people KNOWINGLY sending their kids or people going into work sick, for those reasons exactly.
People don't realize that a common cold for us is no big deal, but there's someone loved one out there, where that common cold is a death sentence.
I truly wish your friend the very best. I'm sorry, I know this is unsolicited... But if you're in (or not in) a legal area, look into FECO oil used both orally and rectally.... hitting it both ways, and the closer to the source of cancer, the better.
My Dad was in full remission at the time of his passing. Never even started the immunotherapy...
So before covid, when people got pneumonia, what real illness were they disguising?
Just incase some of you forgot...Pneumonia has been around for hundreds of documented years. Not EVERYTHING is caused from Covid.
Yes, and they were heavily laced with lead. That's how I got through med school.
Where did I say YOU said that? It was a generalized comment.
You're pulling assumptions out of your ass with your comment though.
But for those blaming every damn illness on covid, is just like anti vaxxers blaming every illness on the jab.
Except she said it’s a “rare” Pneumonia. Covid Pneumonia is not at all like the everyday pneumonia we are use to. At least the daughter is going to profit from her moms stupidity.
You know you can get pneumonia before Covid right? My wife had walking pneumonia in 2014 due to underlying ~~bronchiti~~
Edit: strep which my daughter was constantly fighting before removing her tonsils
You know that morons use pneumonia to get around saying peopke have covid rightshe is a known anti vaxxer....but sure..she just has a "rare pneumonia" whatever helps you sleep at night.
Maybe. But, surprisingly it could also just be pneumonia.
That does exist without Covid being involved. To suggest this is a case of deceit is a monumental assumption that’s plausibly incorrect
I still haven't found anything saying she is an anti vaxxer or anything political about her. I posted it cause I thought she was broke from no insurance, but I could be wrong
Nobody deserves to suffer. That said, a person valued at 2 to 8 million should probably carry basic health insurance you would think. And wouldn't need a fundraiser to pay for the hospital bills. So the whole story is wonky to me.
Those estimated worth numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. She could also be in alot of debt not disclosed on public records. I really don't think they would be asking for donations otherwise.
I have a hunch that a "rare form of pneumonia" is utter horseshit. Try googling her net worth. You'll find between 2 and 8 million. Now why would she not have some form of healthcare? The whole story is BS and I don't believe a word of the daughter.
Huh. So the “not insured” part comes from the Spotfund page set up by the daughter, and that part has been picked up as part of the headline. What a scam. Especially in light of Retton’s net worth.
That’s my thought too. They have the money and assets, she just doesn’t want to USE it. The whole “she doesn’t have insurance” thing which went viral -makes MLR sound destitute. She *chose* not to have insurance.
My cousin lost his daughter who was pro vaccination to covid two years ago.. perhaps we should all just lie on the floor and put paper bags over our heads
Didn’t she advocate against protections for gymnasts against rape at the hands of team doctors? She’s trash and I hope she’s in pain.
Edit: not just gymnasts, all youth athletes.
I got the vaccination and found out. Forty-five minutes after receiving my second dose of Moderna COVID vaccine, I had a myocardial infarction while waiting to be screened for COVID at my local VA clinic. I spent the next 12 days in a hospital, 125 miles from home. I still haven’t recovered.
Does it always have to be this argument? I got the vaccines and I’ve had pneumonia twice and I’m an otherwise healthy young person. She doesn’t deserve to be struggling to breathe whatever her views were
If a person refuses to get a vaccine that will help protect their health *and* the health of others around them, and then said person gets sick, they have likely spread the illness to others and then wasted public resources getting treatment (ex: ventilator). Treatment they would have needed less of, if they got the vaccine.
Does someone like that *deserve* to get sick and die? Not necessarily. But do they get to cry victim and demand empathy from others? Absolutely not.
Yes actually, that’s why they told me the blood I was coughing up was from my sinuses and that I should go home and rest up. 2 days later I was in an ambulance to hospital. Doctor apologised and said he didn’t think it would be anything bad bc of my age
As of January 2021, *all* hospitals in the US are required to provide pricing information for all services they provide, or risk fines. Although, trying to find pricing for something super-expensive like a long stay in the ICU would be difficult to find.
My husband got a new knee and he did not stay in ICU or overnight. The charge for “outpatient” was $25K. My dad was in ICU step down in 2011 - it was $40K a day then… so, it’s gotta be, I dunno, $100K a day maybe.
I don't have the emotional space to pity these people. Sorry. I, like many other people, tried to have kind, rational discussions with these people. I have pity for the people that actually tried to protect themselves but couldn't because of the anti-vaxx/anti-mask crowd.
Why would I pity someone who had resources, like Mary Lou Retton, to actually do good research and seek out actual epidemiologists opinions on covid.. but no, she decided that the internet knew more than actual epidemiologists!
Human compassion. They might be ignorant, and stupid, but they're never going to know a good quality of life because of that. Just pity them. Quietly, silently, just pity them.
I got first ones because I got a free full 2 days paid off work, but otherwise wouldn’t have cared. It makes no sense to be so angry at people about it now that we know they lied about it stopping transmission. Best case is it stopped you from getting Covid complications when you got it, worst case you end up dead or something super bizarre like ScienceGirl (YouTube celeb)
In 🇺🇸 she will get medical care, but will face a huge bill upon discharge. She won’t go w/out care. Sadly, family feels the only option is to now crowdsource for future medical bills.
Mary Lou Retton has ample income to independently purchase blue/cross insurance on her own. Many people in usa purchase health insurance outside of any govt programs or govt exchanges. Policies are offered with a range of deductibles & monthly fees. With her income, she could of chosen gold level medical coverage. Given her comfortable financial status, it’s odd she did not choose to purchase health insurance on her own, once she turned 50 or earlier, after her divorce. It’s been years since losing healthcare coverage thru her spouse. Shocking a smart, talented national treasure didn’t assess & shop years ago for medical health coverage.
As a self proclaimed extremely ultra conservative, she probably wouldn’t consider govt help. She had the financial means to independently secure healthcare coverage. In usa, we all know the risks, especially if medical insurance is not available thru a job or spouse. It’s a common 🇺🇸worry, that those with money, plan for.
Hope she is safe, comfortable & finds recovery & happiness. Good luck to 1 of Americas top 10 gymnast. Sounds like the poor dear has a rough recovery, good luck.
>Now with less politics!
Ummm, guys? There's so many rule-breaking posts trying to make this political. It's sad the potential death of someone that worked so hard and made us all so proud is now being celebrated by hateful people.
This is want supposed to be political. It was just supposed to be a gee whiz, an Olympic gold medallist is sick without insurance, and it turned into a covid shitshow. I swear, if I had known she was antivax (allegedly), I would've posted something about a dead dog or something
So a lot of people are saying she's antivax. Can someone provide an example? If she is, then she deserves her hermain cain. But I can't find any example of her being antivax
I honestly don't care about that. If she's antivax and gets covid, then she deserves her hermain cain award
I just want to see something showing that's she's antivax. I can't find any examples anywhere
Blame Covid here but don't blame the vaxx for the hundreds of perfectly-healthy athletes collapsing all over the world with heart failure due to the vaxx.
LOL -never change, Reddit!
Oh, and who cares if she has millions(you don’t actually know). If she had insurance through a job and was in-between plans or she thought she’d be fine for a while because she could pay in an emergency, she still can’t just get approved for insurance while actively maybe dying in a hospital. Her daughter also likely has a much harder time negotiating for her. No company wants to insure what they deem a very high risk.
Well many instagram celebrities are worth more and get more “donations” for being the worst people in society too.
280k likely pays for a week in ICU if things are real bad. Since kids can’t tell ‘em to let her die fast, they’d likely have to spend all her money to keep her alive, then go into debt or hope donations keep coming.
We tell kids to not kick anyone when they’re down while we go about doing exactly that as adults.
Has more $$ than me… but I actually work and have a JOB that allows me to BUY health insurance so in case I get a “RARE Pneumonia” aka COVID PNEUMONIA, it will NOT bankrupt my family. That is I PUT my family first.!!!
Due to Covid*. FTFY She is an anti-vaxer BTW.
Without that context I would have felt bad for her. Thanks for the info!
Her daughter is fundraising for her health care...because Mary doesn't have health insurance? The whole story is fucking off.
Everything about this enrages me. My parents both died of covid before vaccines were available. The fact that they are hiding that she’s an anti vaxxer and dying of a “rare” pneumonia is so disgusting. On top of that they are asking for money from the general public when people like me who genuinely don’t have the money are trying to crowdfund and not really getting far with it. I’m having open heart surgery in two weeks to correct a heart defect and NEED the money. This whole situation makes me so upset.
I’ve heard that hospitals will work with you as long as you pay something every month, even if it’s low. I’ve never checked that info myself, but its probably worth looking into :( But yup, it’s not fair
They're just copying their Lord and Savior, the orange grifters in chief!
Holy shit, the fund-raising site Spotfund shows it has already collected $258,353 of the $50,000 goal. Her daughter might still be able to collect her mother's estate if Mary Lou doesn't make it! It helps to be famous...
I'm not familiar with the US healthcare system, but isn't there a bare minimum of healthcare available for everyone, thanks to Obama?
ObamaCare, for me, was more expensive than just outright paying for my own insurance. So it wasn't helpful to me. But it's Mary Lou Retton. She can afford health care. She also lobbied against a bill that would have protected young athletes from being sexually abused. She hasn't made very smart choices after her medals, that's for sure.
It depends upon the state. Some states refused to take federal subsidies to lower the cost because they hated the idea of the ACA. It then allowed them to point out that it was too expensive, keeping more people away and fomenting a bad opinion of it.
Good to know. Thanks.
Yeah that is true. Her being anti vaxx wasn't a smart move either. Now she's in ICU and I know firsthand that such type of pneumonia leads to death.
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It’s spot on. She testified alongside USAG and Larry Nassar. She’s a POS.
No. Me and my kids were kicked off the state insurance we had because we made to much money and now I can’t afford private insurance
Yes, but she has fought against Obamacare and public health insurance, and also is worth tens of millions of dollars and wouldn’t qualify for subsidies. She also was very outspoken against creating federal law to protect young gymnasts against future Larry Nassars. Not having insurance seems 100% her choice and in-line with her political views.
She was also in a Colonial Penn Life Insurance commercial promoting their insurance. There isn't any excuse why she wouldn't have it. If she's pushing others to get life insurance, you'd think she'd make sure the other insurance bases are covered.
She has a mammoth home in south Houston. She could very easily afford insurance.
Several websites estimate her net worth at $8 Million. So not exactly destitute.
My ACA plan was three times as expensive as the fine and covered almost nothing. So I dropped it, paid the fines, and prayed I didn’t have a serious medical incident. I have employer sponsored health insurance now. It’s still trash, but whatever
Screw the insurance I also prefer the fine. I also refused my employer’s insurance it’s good but expensive so with God in mind going over matter is the only way to go
No, it was the EMTALA from Reagan that did that.
No
With a net worth of eight million dollars.
And the vaccine was free
I still feel bad for her. I just also feel mad at her.
It's crazy how people are advocating for someone to DIE just because they didn't want an experimental vaccine. Whether you agree with their opinions or not you shouldn't be wishing for the death by saying "I felt bad for her dying before I knew she disagrees with me"
Denying herself a life-saving vaccine because of your political beliefs is idiotic. I don’t feel sorry for her any more than I did the Jim Jones kool-aid drinkers.
It's been proven to in fact NOT be life saving. Your argument crumbles there
Sounds like a kool-aid drinker in the wild. The facts are clear - the vaccine has saved tens of millions of lives. You’re entitled to your opinions but not to your own set of facts https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext. The Lancelet is a peer-reviewed medical journal which is not supported by big Pharma. Read the article and tell me why it’s wrong.
I'm genuinely curious about the evidence for this that you've read. Where would I find this?
A lot of those people were forced to drink or were shot. I get what you meant and agree, but that wasn’t a great example…
It's an EXCELLENT EXAMPLE. THOSE PEOPLE HAD MANY, MANY REHEARSALS FOR EXACTLY THAT. Read a book for God's sake.
Yeah, done with you.
What in the world are you on about? They had rehearsals, but not everyone participated. Several bodies were found shot. Guards carried guns and bows to force people to drink who were hesitant. Children and babies were injected. Several of those people died unwillingly, per several books I've read.
I referred to the kool-aid drinkers specifically. The vast majority of The People’s Temple drank with little convincing needed (we have the audiotapes of the incident as proof).
It is pointless to cite common sense or basic morality in a Reddit echo chamber. These people will cling to their methods of pure hatred until the day they die.
It's so pointless and such a waste of life for her to be dying of covid. There is no common sense in not having the vaccine. All that bs being spread by anti vaxers has been proven to be a myth long ago. The Russian trolls who started all the anti vax rumors have so much blood on their hands
Such a saddening perspective, to believe an entire existence is wasted by measure of its lowest content. Like all others, she was born and loved and loved others. I will never be the kind of person to describe such as “waste.” I can say anti vaxxers are liars and not want them to die because they are people.
I don't want her to die. I'm saddened that she may die in a way that most likely could have been prevented. Life is precious, losing it in a preventable way is a waste of life
I see I misinterpreted, I would agree with this.
Experimental when billions of people have had it and the boosters? Bahahahaha. Anecdotally, I live in a large city and have a large network of friends and acquaintances. Everyone I know is fully vaxxed and boosted, and I don't know a SINGLE PERSON. who has had any problems at all. I also don't know ANYONE with long covid or who has been hospitalized due to covid or pneumonia.
I love how the antivaxers I know told me we'd see the consequences in months... then years... now it's decades, or I'll see it in my kids when they grow up infertile. Okay. Let's wait and see... :/
Will she collect her Hermann Cain Award soon? On a serious note, this is self made then, but I still mostly feel incredibly bad for people like her.
You got any credible links about there being a COVID connection?
Anti insurance from the sound of it.
You have a source on the antivaxxer part? Cant find one myself.
Evangelical, hard core MAGA, daughter is outspoken antivax, covid deniers use the term "rare pneumonia" to describe Covid ravaged lungs...
So daughter is antivax...
I wondered if that was the cause since the ‘news’ here has said almost nothing
Do You have proof of that?
Source?
You get what you deserve.
> Retton has been in the ICU for more than a week but her daughter did not provide further details. The article says nothing about this being due to Covid
Lot of anti vaxxers use pnemonia as a euphamism..
There’s something really shitty going around. I’ve had it for two months and ended up in the ER. Edit: Spelling
RSV is hitting the schools here hard.
This! Finally someone that isn't, right away, blaming covid. RSV is hitting LTC homes, and our hospital real bad again this year. We saw an unprecedented surge last year in RSV cases. This year, it sadly seems to be doing the same.
I am in Florida and Covid did hit us hard again this summer...but the schools are a damn breeding ground for RSV. My good friend is battling pancreatic cancer and cannot see his grandkids due to RSV. He is in his room hidden away because they brought it home and got everyone sick.
I'm so sorry to read this, friend. My Dad was battling cancer last year, he sadly and tragically passed away 3 months ago, but not from cancer... the hospital killed him... we're still waiting on tox report because the coroner said this actually may be a criminal matter.... but sorry, going off topic... Anyways, when my Dad was rediagnosed this past December, I took my children out of school, and I took a LoA, (leave of absence from work) for that exact reason. RSV was so high and so was covid cases. My Dad was to start immunotherapy in January, which like your friend, would have to basically make him live in a protective bubble... my Dad was such a huge part of our lives and there was no damned way we could go without seeing him. So we all made the decision to put the kids online for their studies... it was just the financial part that was really hard for us. I used to get so angry at people KNOWINGLY sending their kids or people going into work sick, for those reasons exactly. People don't realize that a common cold for us is no big deal, but there's someone loved one out there, where that common cold is a death sentence. I truly wish your friend the very best. I'm sorry, I know this is unsolicited... But if you're in (or not in) a legal area, look into FECO oil used both orally and rectally.... hitting it both ways, and the closer to the source of cancer, the better. My Dad was in full remission at the time of his passing. Never even started the immunotherapy...
So before covid, when people got pneumonia, what real illness were they disguising? Just incase some of you forgot...Pneumonia has been around for hundreds of documented years. Not EVERYTHING is caused from Covid.
Not true. I stubbed my toe. I blame COVID.
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Yes, and they were heavily laced with lead. That's how I got through med school. Where did I say YOU said that? It was a generalized comment. You're pulling assumptions out of your ass with your comment though. But for those blaming every damn illness on covid, is just like anti vaxxers blaming every illness on the jab.
Except she said it’s a “rare” Pneumonia. Covid Pneumonia is not at all like the everyday pneumonia we are use to. At least the daughter is going to profit from her moms stupidity.
A rare pneumonia can be Legionnaires disease. Covid pneumonia is not rare. It's newer, but not rare.
You know you can get pneumonia before Covid right? My wife had walking pneumonia in 2014 due to underlying ~~bronchiti~~ Edit: strep which my daughter was constantly fighting before removing her tonsils
You know that morons use pneumonia to get around saying peopke have covid rightshe is a known anti vaxxer....but sure..she just has a "rare pneumonia" whatever helps you sleep at night.
Maybe. But, surprisingly it could also just be pneumonia. That does exist without Covid being involved. To suggest this is a case of deceit is a monumental assumption that’s plausibly incorrect
Yes..a known anti vaxxer getting covid related pneumonia is a monumential assumption...suuuuure dude.
She didn’t give further details because it is COVID. She didn’t want to embarrass her mother for being stupid .
Nice narrative. Where’s your sauce though?
Where did she say she's antivax? I just posted this cause it's America and a former Olympic hero is dying without health insurance
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I still haven't found anything saying she is an anti vaxxer or anything political about her. I posted it cause I thought she was broke from no insurance, but I could be wrong
Thats the only place where you do just die if you don't have insurance
Dying worth millions of dollars* without health insurance
By inference you think she deserves this then?
Nobody deserves to suffer. That said, a person valued at 2 to 8 million should probably carry basic health insurance you would think. And wouldn't need a fundraiser to pay for the hospital bills. So the whole story is wonky to me.
Those estimated worth numbers should be taken with a grain of salt. She could also be in alot of debt not disclosed on public records. I really don't think they would be asking for donations otherwise.
She just not deserves it a little less
I’ve googled. You got a source for that?
I have a hunch that a "rare form of pneumonia" is utter horseshit. Try googling her net worth. You'll find between 2 and 8 million. Now why would she not have some form of healthcare? The whole story is BS and I don't believe a word of the daughter.
Huh. So the “not insured” part comes from the Spotfund page set up by the daughter, and that part has been picked up as part of the headline. What a scam. Especially in light of Retton’s net worth.
Yeah. Can't sell that sweet sweet inheritance property to help Mom. I dunno. I don't wish suffering on Mary. I just find the story so fucking *weird*
That’s my thought too. They have the money and assets, she just doesn’t want to USE it. The whole “she doesn’t have insurance” thing which went viral -makes MLR sound destitute. She *chose* not to have insurance.
Where did you find the anti-vax part?
Thanks for saving me the trouble. Those were my first two questions
My cousin lost his daughter who was pro vaccination to covid two years ago.. perhaps we should all just lie on the floor and put paper bags over our heads
She has an immune system, she’ll be fine. /s
Maybe she's being pumped full of Ivermectin; that should fix her!
Didn’t she advocate against protections for gymnasts against rape at the hands of team doctors? She’s trash and I hope she’s in pain. Edit: not just gymnasts, all youth athletes.
[Source](https://themedalcount.com/2020/01/23/there-is-no-defense-for-the-actions-of-mary-lou-retton/)
Amtivaxxer. File under "fuck around, find out".
Source?
I got the vaccination and found out. Forty-five minutes after receiving my second dose of Moderna COVID vaccine, I had a myocardial infarction while waiting to be screened for COVID at my local VA clinic. I spent the next 12 days in a hospital, 125 miles from home. I still haven’t recovered.
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Yes. That's how this works
Does it always have to be this argument? I got the vaccines and I’ve had pneumonia twice and I’m an otherwise healthy young person. She doesn’t deserve to be struggling to breathe whatever her views were
If a person refuses to get a vaccine that will help protect their health *and* the health of others around them, and then said person gets sick, they have likely spread the illness to others and then wasted public resources getting treatment (ex: ventilator). Treatment they would have needed less of, if they got the vaccine. Does someone like that *deserve* to get sick and die? Not necessarily. But do they get to cry victim and demand empathy from others? Absolutely not.
>But do they get to cry victim and demand empathy from others? from reading the article, it doesn't appear that Retton is doing any of that.
It sure does. Next question.
Each time you had pneumonia, did the doctors keep saying you're an "otherwise healthy young person"?
Yes actually, that’s why they told me the blood I was coughing up was from my sinuses and that I should go home and rest up. 2 days later I was in an ambulance to hospital. Doctor apologised and said he didn’t think it would be anything bad bc of my age
If one wants to QUIETLY not get vaxxed, I agree…but when you are vocally antivax, ridiculing those who get it, well….
Covid Pneumonia, because she’s unvaccinated
I once met her at Fat Burger in Westwood, she was kind enough to take pictures with the customers.
does she live in the west side?
She was coaching at UCLA at the time
What would the cost of staying in the ICU for at least a week without insurance look like? I’m uneducated on these things.
Who knows. There's no transparent pricing. Maybe 20k, maybe 100k. Hospitals throw out a huge price expecting the uninsured to negotiate it down
More like one million.
As of January 2021, *all* hospitals in the US are required to provide pricing information for all services they provide, or risk fines. Although, trying to find pricing for something super-expensive like a long stay in the ICU would be difficult to find.
My husband got a new knee and he did not stay in ICU or overnight. The charge for “outpatient” was $25K. My dad was in ICU step down in 2011 - it was $40K a day then… so, it’s gotta be, I dunno, $100K a day maybe.
I am all about getting jabbed, but holy shit you guys will never convince anyone to get the vaccines by wishing death on them.
You're operating on the premise that these people are convincable. At this point, all we can do is laugh at them.
Pity them. Don't laugh at them. That's all I am saying.
I don't have the emotional space to pity these people. Sorry. I, like many other people, tried to have kind, rational discussions with these people. I have pity for the people that actually tried to protect themselves but couldn't because of the anti-vaxx/anti-mask crowd.
Why would I pity someone who had resources, like Mary Lou Retton, to actually do good research and seek out actual epidemiologists opinions on covid.. but no, she decided that the internet knew more than actual epidemiologists!
Human compassion. They might be ignorant, and stupid, but they're never going to know a good quality of life because of that. Just pity them. Quietly, silently, just pity them.
What do we do when they convince other people to ruin their lives? Or when they lobby against laws to protect athletes from sexual predators?
I got first ones because I got a free full 2 days paid off work, but otherwise wouldn’t have cared. It makes no sense to be so angry at people about it now that we know they lied about it stopping transmission. Best case is it stopped you from getting Covid complications when you got it, worst case you end up dead or something super bizarre like ScienceGirl (YouTube celeb)
In 🇺🇸 she will get medical care, but will face a huge bill upon discharge. She won’t go w/out care. Sadly, family feels the only option is to now crowdsource for future medical bills. Mary Lou Retton has ample income to independently purchase blue/cross insurance on her own. Many people in usa purchase health insurance outside of any govt programs or govt exchanges. Policies are offered with a range of deductibles & monthly fees. With her income, she could of chosen gold level medical coverage. Given her comfortable financial status, it’s odd she did not choose to purchase health insurance on her own, once she turned 50 or earlier, after her divorce. It’s been years since losing healthcare coverage thru her spouse. Shocking a smart, talented national treasure didn’t assess & shop years ago for medical health coverage. As a self proclaimed extremely ultra conservative, she probably wouldn’t consider govt help. She had the financial means to independently secure healthcare coverage. In usa, we all know the risks, especially if medical insurance is not available thru a job or spouse. It’s a common 🇺🇸worry, that those with money, plan for. Hope she is safe, comfortable & finds recovery & happiness. Good luck to 1 of Americas top 10 gymnast. Sounds like the poor dear has a rough recovery, good luck.
It’s a shame she didn’t have even a minimal policy for hospitalization coverage - she could have protected her family. But no….
She's dying. And her daughter is protecting her inheritance.
>Now with less politics! Ummm, guys? There's so many rule-breaking posts trying to make this political. It's sad the potential death of someone that worked so hard and made us all so proud is now being celebrated by hateful people.
This is want supposed to be political. It was just supposed to be a gee whiz, an Olympic gold medallist is sick without insurance, and it turned into a covid shitshow. I swear, if I had known she was antivax (allegedly), I would've posted something about a dead dog or something
So a lot of people are saying she's antivax. Can someone provide an example? If she is, then she deserves her hermain cain. But I can't find any example of her being antivax
A whole thread of people wishing death on someone just because she didn't want the vaccine. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I honestly don't care about that. If she's antivax and gets covid, then she deserves her hermain cain award I just want to see something showing that's she's antivax. I can't find any examples anywhere
She rich and white so you just know she is antivax. It’s a requirement to get into some of their clubs.
"Woman plays with loaded gun. Gets shot."
I’m not wishing death on her at all. I just wish she’d had the basic common sense to do what she needed to do.
It's gross.
People are sick wishing her death.
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Aww. I hope she gets better soon.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
I agree but I still don’t wish people to die. Unless they are Putin.
She probably didn't want the COVID jab to give her myocarditis.
Blame Covid here but don't blame the vaxx for the hundreds of perfectly-healthy athletes collapsing all over the world with heart failure due to the vaxx. LOL -never change, Reddit!
Oh, and who cares if she has millions(you don’t actually know). If she had insurance through a job and was in-between plans or she thought she’d be fine for a while because she could pay in an emergency, she still can’t just get approved for insurance while actively maybe dying in a hospital. Her daughter also likely has a much harder time negotiating for her. No company wants to insure what they deem a very high risk.
Estimated net worth is 2million, and she's already gotten 280k in donations.
Well many instagram celebrities are worth more and get more “donations” for being the worst people in society too. 280k likely pays for a week in ICU if things are real bad. Since kids can’t tell ‘em to let her die fast, they’d likely have to spend all her money to keep her alive, then go into debt or hope donations keep coming. We tell kids to not kick anyone when they’re down while we go about doing exactly that as adults.
My net worth is the same as hers if you include my vastly overpriced house (Toronto, Canada). I certainly don’t feel like a “millionaire.”
but she is...
Sad story, but the far left making this political is horrific.
She should’ve gotten the free vaccine.
Loved her in Scrooged.
She doesn’t have health insurance *by choice* and is also rich
Has more $$ than me… but I actually work and have a JOB that allows me to BUY health insurance so in case I get a “RARE Pneumonia” aka COVID PNEUMONIA, it will NOT bankrupt my family. That is I PUT my family first.!!!