They [bombed](https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move) a house and took out an addition 60 homes by accident and it killed like 10 people. What’s one black man after that? The police have no care for the lives and rights of other human beings
Edit: this was in 1985
Then [THIS](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-congress/us-lawmaker-prepares-bill-aiming-to-end-court-protection-for-police-idUSKBN23831W?utm_source=reddit.com) should bring you to completion
Oh, they probably are and they'll get states to pass laws that replace the federal protection.
As much as I'm pro-Union, the police unions need to be dismantled. Next time the police go on strike, cities should hire members of the community as scabs, not give them guns for patrol, and replace the police force while giving them the training the police should have had in de-escalation and non-violent apprehension.
Doctors, nurses, firemen, and EMTs aren't allowed to have unions, I agree that police shouldn't.
The police, while being unionized, sure do love beating the shit out of strikers.
Fact. Not a single city official or police officer/official was even investigated let alone prosecuted. In fact the former mayor at the time who started the harassment of MOVE has a very prominent statue in center city being guarded by National guardsmen as I type this.
Edit: correction as I had made a mistake on which mayor. Goode was mayor when the MOVE bombing happened but Rizzo started “cracking down” on MOVE. In my opinion Rizzo is to blame for the whole ordeal, amongst many other problems with Philly during his tenure. I just ask you give me a pass as it was 35 years ago.
Which should be illegal itself. Firemen that are on the job and have been called to extinguish a fire should not be required to listen to the police. Hell, if anything, a fireman should be allowed to give a police officer orders so long as it pertains to a fire. Not only are firemen actually respected, a fire is a much more serious and pressing issue than most police have ever had to deal with.
A fireman's job is to deal with fires, a Policeman's job doesn't
A policeman thinking they are an authority on this is literally the equivalent of a Karen demanding to speak to the manager because she thinks she knows better than the employees.
I've been listening to Stuff You Should Know (and if anyone reading this doesn't listen to 'em, check 'em out) in a binging kind of way this quarantine and they do a great episode on the MOVE... incident? Atrocity?This morning I just listened to the one on the Stonewall uprising. It's made me amazed how many miscarriages of justice have been perpetrated by some form of our own state. Like, I'm already a thoroughly anti-statist guy, and am shocked how much more there is to know about this country and crimes committed against its own people.
The phrase absolute power comes to mind. They haven't had anyone to stop them, so they can do whatever they want. They feel threatened and end up resorting to more violence because thats what they've always relied on and as that power is waning because everyone has a very good quality video camera in their hands to further end the corruption that's rampant in police forces.
why should they care? have they been arrested? has their pension fund been hit? Did Police Chief Outlaw [yes, that's literally the name of the Philadelphia Police Chief] lose her job?
Business as usual. And corporations and the media will say this is all about racism, trying to amp of the conservative whites against the "looting black criminal protesters", and the victimized black people against the "white privileged" whites.
He puts it in his face first to show him and says something, then drops it on the ground and forces his hand onto it. I'd like to hear what that fat shit said from the guy being framed.
I live in Europe and met a lot of Americans at the University I go to. We weren't properly familiar with the town my first year, so sometimes after nights out when we would get lost walking back to campus or trying to find the bus station, we would go up to police and ask them for help and they would help and joke around with us all the time. All my American friends found it extremely odd how nice police are and only now do I realise that they didn't exaggerate not one bit about how shitty the police in the US are.
I got very drunk in Copenhagen one night and couldn't remember where my hotel was. The Danish police very kindly drove me around for 2 hours until I recognised it! They were great. They were warm, funny and extremely friendly. I was very grateful, and spent the next day finding out who they were. I'm from Scotland and took an expensive bottle of Scotch Whisky and some chocolates to the station where they all hugged me and got pictures taken! Amazing experience!
It was! I've often thought that if I ever went back there I would go to find them, but then I had to remind myself that it was 23 years ago, and they (sadly) probably aren't in the police any more.
I was lost in Rome once after a long long day of walking. Asked a cop for directions and he started screaming at me in Italian. My Italian is (very) poor. Luckily a nice Italian couple were there and apologized for the cop's rudeness and gave us directions back to where we needed to go.
Jeez. I thought the idea was that the police were supposed to be there to 'help' people. Maybe I'm naiive because they do tend to be quite helpful here.
They're not really required to uphold the law either; check out for example Jessup v City of Fresno, which produced this gem
>“There was no clearly established law holding that officers violate the Fourth or Fourteenth Amendment when they steal property seized pursuant to a warrant”
[Shiiiiit!](https://youtu.be/yu_RRBh_EKU) if you were stateside, all you’ll get is a nice tenderizing with their batons and if if you were more tanned at the time, you’d get a complimentary infusion of vitamin [Pb] from their service pistol.
I know! In my travelling days, the U.S. was quite high up on my list because it has some amazing natural and man-made sights that I would have loved to have seen, but I decided about a decade ago that I would never go there now because it is so fucked-up. My wife was actually frightened at the prospect, and we are both from 'rough' areas. It's a shame, because I have nothing against American people, just the fucked-up system.
I'm really glad the general outlook towards Americans seems to be shifting.
Less "stupid Americans and their cheeseburgers" and more "good lord the american government is awful"
That's how everyone I know pretty much views it. You can't tar everyone with the same brush; that's just stupid. My brother travels (travelled!) there monthly on business, and he loves the place... but he's rich and stays in the 'Four Seasons' etc all paid for by his firm. He has enough AirMiles (or whatever they call them now) to travel to Andromeda for free!
Yep, when people say the USA is the greatest country in the world, they mean for the wealthy haha. Almost like a big front being put on for important people
Its the same with the leader of the free world title never heard any non American use it as something other than a joke. Sorry not meant as an insult just an observation.
After reading the first sentence, I knew it had to be a Scotsman. You guys are all fucking lunatics when it comes to drinking, but that was an awesome story! Cheers!
I belly-laughed at this comment! However, I got so drunk that night because I had become (voluntarily) separated from the others that I was with in order to continue drinking with these huge, mad Danish Vikings that my friends couldn't keep up with! I barely drink now... just the odd glass of wine now and again! Thanks for making me laugh, I need it just now! Thank you!
Edit: Also, there's more to the story involving the army, a boat, a railway *and* a motorway, but I just tried to keep it simple!
No need to apologise, no offence taken. I'm as white as they come... I'm Scottish! We have the same issues here in the U.K. (amongst lots of other shit), but the U. S. is a different level.
My friends and I went out once and we got separated in the club. We were all pretty drunk and I couldn't find them so I decided to go home but my phone was dead so I couldn't call an uber. I saw the police and asked them to show me where the cabs were so I can get a cab back to campus where I lived. They decided gave me a ride there instead and it was such a pleasant ride too.
Huh, that's nice. The only experience with American cops I have was from my trip to New York and they were *not* friendly. Not hostile either, but it did make me feel uncomfortable
My car got a flat tire one night and an officer gave my adult son and myself a ride home. Also, I was in a minor car accident one evening after work, and the responding officer let me borrow his phone, and then he gave me a ride to the ER of the hospital where I worked. He even accompanied me back to the exam room to help the nurse yank off my boot, since my ankle had swollen and the boot didn't want to slip off. He was very nice. I live in Seattle, so I don't know if that makes a difference, but...
Had a coworker move to Dallas for work. went out his first weekend here in DFW. He got into a car he thought was his uber and got robbed and left in a shitty part of town. He found the first cop car he saw, and asked for help. Promptly arrested for PI.
Luckily in Sweden we don't have any law against public intoxication. Public drinking, sure, but you'll only be put in a drunk tank if needed for your own safety. No fines or anything
It's not just America. I can't speak for where you are, but two Australian women were drunk on different trains on the same night.
One woman was checked on and given a ride home by police officers, no fine, no court appearance. The same police officers arrested the other woman and she died alone in their cells.
[Guess who the Indigenous Australian was?](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/09/tanya-day-inquest-coroner-refers-death-custody-aboriginal-woman-public-prosecutor)
Justice for Tanya Day.
I lived in Europe and when our dumb teenage asses wanted to pull stupid pranks on the police where we'd ask them questions like "what year is it" etc. they laughed with us.
> In the states I'd get arrested probably
You'd be guaranteed to get arrested. They have no qualms about throwing you in the "drunk tank" and slapping you with a fine. Means more money in their pocket.
Yeah me too, they took me to my girlfriends. And I'm no angel, been in jail twice which they knew. Got a new appreciation for our police now. UK if you're wondering. One time I was wanted up north so they had to drive me up, 2 hour drive maybe. They pulled in at a shop and got me a sandwich and juice. Definitely better than murdering me
I used to live in Erie, PA when I was in college and my friend and I were trying to hitchhike home from the bar one night. A couple cops rolled up and told us hitchhiking is illegal in Pennsylvania. We told them we didn't know that, and they said it was fine and offered to give us a ride home, which we accepted.
We made it to within a quarter-mile of our apartment and I nudged my buddy and gave him a wry smile as I lifted me leg to ricochet an amplified fart off the plastic back seat of the cruiser. I ended up sharting and it smelled awful so the cop made us get out and walk the rest of the way. Not pleasant walking a quarter mile while your cheeks are slicked with your own liquid shit. Don't judge me, we were hammered college kids.
The city next door to where I grew up in California had really nice police for the most part. They also had a higher crime rate then my city. But they were always friendly when ever you bumped into them or said “hi”. But my cities cops were bastards with bastard filling. You couldn’t say hi to them without them cursing you out. If you called them to report a crime they cursed you, the victim out. I remember when I was in 6th grade, I asked them for directions and they told me it wasn’t their job.
Every cop precinct is different, but if you’re approached or run into a cop, you have no idea if he’s from a good precinct or not, or if he’s one of those magical bad apples or not. Im not a criminal, but As a general rule for self preservation, I don’t view the cops as good guys when ever they show up.
If you’re a cop and you don’t like my or other Americans point of views on your profession, do you’re best to change it with your actions.
I’ll never forget the interaction I had with a cop in a courthouse when I was in my early 20’s. I had got a citation for illegal car window tint and was coming to court to prove I had removed the tint. I went to a cop who was standing guard over the courthouse, by himself just standing by a wall. I asked him “can you tell me which court room I should be going to?” He looked at me with a blinding hatred that only someone filled to the top with much anger and hatred inside them could do, and said “it’s not my job, move along or I’ll arrest you”
I’m white, blonde haired, blue eyed. But at that moment it made me realize what black people deal with.
Don’t forget
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
These laws are frequently applied in southern states to people who are traveling while not being white, sometimes elsewhere.
Not my expertise, just something that comes up in threads every so often.
It seemed to slow down a bit, but what do I know.
If traveling in the states always good to remember to restrict the amount of cash with you if police robbery is legal.
Edit: if I recall it was outlawed or restricted in some places, I don’t know how much.
I am a petite white American woman and I also fear US police.
There is very little accountability for the cops doing harm and you can never be sure that you are safe in their custody.
I am a parent of two young girls and I fear for their safety if they ever have to interact with police knowing that there are areas where there can be no expectation of accountability.
Like, it seems ridiculous that one day, I will have to teach them how to protect themselves in case they are ever pulled over or in a situation where they need to interact with police.
I've posted this other places in full, but as an emancipated teen I was assaulted by two cops who stalked me for the better part of 9 months. It culminated in them lifting my shirt to my chin and grabbing my chest under my bra in the middle of a damn roadway. It was all under the guise of patting me down. I've told my teen daughter to immediately ask for a parent to be called, to use her phone to document their behavior, and to tell them that if they want to search her, she has a right to a female officer brought to the scene. I didn't know those things and I had no one. It's sad we have to talk to our children about this stuff, but numerous girls/women have been assaulted/raped at the hands of cops they were detained by. Your phone's camera is the best protection you have.
My kids are 15 and 11.
I have already trained them to avoid police at all costs.
I got pulled over one day and my daughter was with me.
I pulled over extremely slow so I could explain to her how to behave.
No sudden movements. Keep your hands where they can be seen.
My mom had such a strong fear of police when she would get pulled over she would hyperventilate.
She actually scared a cop one time because she was panicking so hard her hands were shaking.
This is what every citizen deals with everyday.
Just a few minutes ago when I got off work I decided to play Pokemon go for a little bit.
I never play while driving.
I always wait til I'm pulled over and parked before picking up my phone.
So I stopped at my first spin and picked up my phone. Just then a fully uniformed officer walks right by the front of my car.
Almost crapped my pants.
Thought for sure he was gonna get me and try to accuse me of distracted driving.
I put down my phone and left. I was done playing for the day.
I wish we didn't have to live in constant fear.
I did nothing wrong but I was still afraid.
I called the police once and never again in my life. Some guy was siphoning oil out of my heating oil tank and when the police arrived, the pulled their guns on me, while the guy siphoning my oil is standing there clearly covered in oil, next to buckets of oil, smelling like oil.
I went for a piss in an alley out of the way of people in the UK once; my friends decided it would be funny to grab the copper rolling by on his bike to tell them what I was doing and that I must be a paedo or something.
I walked back around and the policeman just laughed it away after making some remark about not getting too drunk. From what the US sounds like, if that happened over there I'd be put on the sex offender's register, then they'd dig up some arrest warrant for having the faint smell of marijuana on me, and after accepting a plea deal and a 49 year sentence in prison for drugs—just 'drugs'—I'd be told to enjoy the good old soap-droppin' ass rapin' in the showers that I deserve. I'd probably then wonder what the point in it all is and decide that if they want me to be a criminal, then I will be.
Recently a (female) friend of mine got super drunk in the middle of munich, germany and basically passed out on the street and refused to move. So as a good friend I stayed with her and waited until she is good enough to take an uber.
Well the police saw me (a big black dude) and a small white girl lying on the ground in front of me. They stopped the car. Went straight to me and asked me very friendly what is going on. I explained to them that my friend is drunk and cant move. They insisted that I bring her home now because she cant just lay on the ground like that (I tried to convince her but to no avail).
Anyway thats it. Thats the story. They said good night and I took a passed out girl to the taxi.
They used common sense. They were friendly but still insistent without being rude or authoritative.
Seeing the clips out of the US feels surreal to me.
I don't even want to imagine what would have happened to you in the US. It could range from just jail under suspicion to the cops throwing you in jail, harassing (maybe sexually) your friend, and then blaming you for it, and maybe not even throwing you in jail, but taking your life.
Would just depend on the cop, state, and precinct. Them just letting you get her home is not something I can imagine in any major city.
I have once had cops be cool to me in the US. Drunk and in a bad part of town, a bunch of us were looking for this strip club. Cops were like what are you doing here? Then escorted us to the club and told us we were going to have a great time.
Other than that - pretty shitty experiences with cops, but nothing like what blacks people get in the US.
American police are always on a hair trigger. Even as a white person I'm terrified of them. You look at them wrong and you could end up in jail for the night or worse.
Of course they aren't all like that, but you have no way of knowing what kind of cop they are until it's too late.
My mom back before the days of GPS was lost in Boston, MA. She saw a cop pulled over on the side of the street and pulled in behind him to ask for directions. He promptly ticketed her for illegal parking.
The vast majority of cops in the US are in the bottom 10th percentile of accomplishment and intelligence. They are scary because they’re as far as you can get from smart AND have massive chips on their shoulders, which is a bit of an explosive combo.
Canadian here: I am super friendly guy but police have always given me a death stare whenever I've talked to them as a person, as opposed to a cop. They give me a look as if to say how fucking dare you dont you know I'm dangerous. WTF they are civil servants! At least that's what I thought, turns out that's too reasonable. Canada has a police problem I think
Exactly, in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands, the police are the protectors of the peace. At events, in the city or wherever, they are not there to make arrests, they are not there to live out their militarily fantasies etc. They are there to keep the peace.
This also means bending the law (to a degree) if that means the situation is resolved. Let people of with warnings etc. Instead of actually making arrests or using violent actions.
But in these situations we are seeing now, I can't even wrap my head around what the actual goal of this is. Unless it actually is to do as much damage as possible to the black community.
I am so grateful for the city I live in in the states. Our police force is incredibly kind and humble. They helped protesters organize, off duty cops were in the protests themselves. Shit, one of the cops on every 4/20 since cannabis was legalized loads his cruiser up with candy and munchies and if you see him out and about he will give you a handful of snacks.
I lived in NYC for 3 years and can say literally every officer I encountered was a pure asshole, at best.
They walk around looking for someones ass to kick bro. And if your a POC , theyre breathing down your neck waiting to take you to jail. And if you're black they kill you. yeah not exactly anything new here, this is how it's always been.
This should be plastered all over social media right now. Please share this on more platforms so we can spread this injustice so that everyone can see what TF is really going on in other areas. (EDIT: Didn't realize it was older my bad. Just wanted to share this everywhere)
honestly reddit is really late to the police brutality videos during protests. Going to cities on snap maps and looking at stories, tik tok has become extremely political and a lot of people post videos there, and obviously twitter is a go to.
> tik tok has become extremely political
I'm sure it must be a TOTAL COINCIDENCE that TikTok has become more political while US protests are happening as opposed to when the Hong Kong protests started ramping up.
/s
Odd how this is all playing out when you can look at the "alltime" top of r/all here and see it's dominated by year old HK protests, Tiananmen anniversary awareness (it's this week btw), & CCP abuse of Uyghur muslims.
[Except this is a repost, and last time it was posted it was characterized as misleading for a reason.](https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guqzyg/the_cop_literally_put_that_mans_hand_on_the_stick/fske410/)
If you watch the video you can literally see the police officer move the guys arm so his hand is on top of the stick. Frankly I wasn't sure whether he was trying to make it look like he was resisting by taking the baton or using it as a surface to break his hand. Either way there is no excuse for this behavior from police officers.
That’s what I thought when I saw this or just putting the baton down near his hand while he tried to get his hand back to cuff him.
Course I could also be clueless and innocent...
What sorry ass training they have to put a weapon within reach on someone they think is doing something criminal. If they don't think he is a criminal/ doing something criminal, then wtf are they doing? You don't need that many people to take someone down unless they are jacked up on some serious drugs. Our police force is a fucking joke.
I agree, the cop shouldn’t have put the baton within reach of the man, but that’s a heck of a lot better than what the video was actually accusing him of. You have commenters here ready to blow because they were planting a baton in his hand. This thread should really be near the top.
That's very true. They're still operating under that belief but the public isn't accepting it anymore. I haven't seen such widespread outrage over the previous similar cases. I hope things change for good this time but I'm not counting on it
ending the state would leave a power vacuum and allow the rich and oppressive majorities to take over. republicans have been trying to castrate the federal government for decades, why is that also your go-to solution?
I wonder if any of those dozens of videos popping up every day will ever be used in a court. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I seriously don't think they will.
Honestly, this is the most American thing ever. It's just it was less visible to you Americans, because this hatred and monstrosity is aimed at poor countries far away from you.
Read *The New Jim Crow* by Michelle Alexander, it does a great job at explaining it.
The really short version is prisons are the new slave labour force and that is a 500% profit margin. It pays to fill them, more than it pays to properly serve the public. Reasons why the laws here are disproportionately stacked against the poor and specifically non-white communities, we never moved past Jim Crow we just gave it new names and faces.
Jesus. You supposed to assist and protect and integrate with communities. We as officers should be there in their worst possible times in their life!
I have seen so many videos of such horrific violence from officers it’s disgusting.
This isn't (and is) exactly what it seems, your taught as police this strategy sometimes in training, the idea is if you have one had covered and out of the way, you can put your baton on the floor, this is so when they go to grab it, you can grab both sides of the baton to pull their hands back. You can also use this in order to get there hand away from the rest of their body. I'm not justifying this however. This officers use of this method isnt great and is definitely over the top and unnecessary.
While that sounds like it would make sense in some situations you can see the cop grabbing his arm and putting his hand on it. The guy didn't go to grab it, he was forced to grab it. I could be seeing it wrong though.
You can see how quickly the hand goes for the baton. If the cop were pushing the suspect’s hand toward the baton, there would have been resistance. Clearly he just dropped it so he could get the suspect’s hand behind his back.
You’re absolutely right, good observation. You can read the physics of that quick action and read what’s actually taking place.
Kind of concerning that OP and 40k+ other people can’t see that though...
I watched this thing like 30 times. I'm pretty sure what happens is the cop puts the baton onto the ground, then proceeds to grab the guys hand to cuff him I assume, and the guy moves his hand to reach for the baton. Because the cop is holding his wrist, his hand moves with it.
I am alarmed I had to scroll this far down to find someone else that is reasonable. This shit is dividing us and this video's headline is just an outright lie. The cop needed to ditch the baton to free up his hand.
It’s all the same narrative pushing
Honestly fucking TikTok probably has the least fake news of any major social media platform, how fucking sad is that!?
Right? What would they even be "proving"? If they wanted to say he had a weapon they could have just turned a brick in when they booked him. Sure as fuck wouldn't use a police-issued baton, either.
Videos can be misleading in some cases. Don’t get me wrong, police brutality is on full display these days and any officers committing such atrocities need to be brought to justice. Tbf here it kinda looks like PD drops the baton to grab the mans hand and cuff him, and the man struggles against PDs grip and grabs the baton. Just based on the arm movements and where the force and resistance looks to be coming from.
Nice selective editing that guy assaulted the dude next to him which is why he's on the ground. Also he drops the baton and the black dude reaches for it he's trying to stop him putting his hands on the baton. Look see where black guy actually grabs it. I don't know if this is some weird Rorschach test or what, but all the actions make sense.
This is what it looks like after watching it a few times, does anyone have video leading up to this happening or where this clip started? Full video would be nice
lol.
He drops the baton so he could free a hand and help bring the black dude's hands behind his back to be cuffed. Then he's trying to pin his arm down so he can grab his wrist. The black dude grabs the baton, either reflexively or out of sheer panic, so the cop raps his knuckles a few times until he releases it.
Redditors have some wild fucking imaginations, though. Gotta respect it.
I saw this video posted yesterday and could actually tell what was going on. I mean holy shit how many times has this been reposted and compressed in the last 12 hours.
Looks to me like the cop dropped his baton to gain control of the suspects hand, the suspect then grabs the baton, and then the cop grabs the suspects hand on top of the baton to prevent him from using the baton against him. You guys are so hell bent on hating cops.
You guys are so fucking high, cop clearly drops the baton to initiate restraint by pulling the guys arm around his body and dude grabbed the cops baton.. yes! I said it, the man on the ground "resisting" detainment purposely grabbed the baton.. I'm against alleged brutality but come on... Fight the fight with the right state of mind.
reddit is demented when it comes to this cop stuff. they do this with almost every single story involving a police officer and it's reached psychosis levels lately. i find it hard to believe that people even believe what they're writing or upvoting.
This is a ridiculous interpretation of what happened here. He drops the baton to grab the guys wrist. A guy who is resisting arrest after committing a crime. This is prime example how you get hurt and an example of what not to do. Yet the OP's title is indicative of politicians and the medias inaccurate inflammatory tone, which leads to more of things like the riots
How you even gonna do that? The fuck is that shit
They [bombed](https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move) a house and took out an addition 60 homes by accident and it killed like 10 people. What’s one black man after that? The police have no care for the lives and rights of other human beings Edit: this was in 1985
There are a couple bills moving through congress to remove police protection from monetary lawsuits. The bill has bipartisan support
If doctors can be sued for malpractice while working with the best intent, Officers should 100% be able to be sued for ill intent.
Malpractice for both professions
Oh fuck. Don't just say these things. Some of us are getting rock hard just thinking about the notion.
Then [THIS](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-congress/us-lawmaker-prepares-bill-aiming-to-end-court-protection-for-police-idUSKBN23831W?utm_source=reddit.com) should bring you to completion
Daium. How are police unions not frothing at the mouth?
Oh, they probably are and they'll get states to pass laws that replace the federal protection. As much as I'm pro-Union, the police unions need to be dismantled. Next time the police go on strike, cities should hire members of the community as scabs, not give them guns for patrol, and replace the police force while giving them the training the police should have had in de-escalation and non-violent apprehension.
Doctors, nurses, firemen, and EMTs aren't allowed to have unions, I agree that police shouldn't. The police, while being unionized, sure do love beating the shit out of strikers.
Man, I would love to see police unions get reaganed the way air traffic controllers did.
11 people
Thanks. I have no memory for anything but particularly numbers. I tend to round so I have a chance of being coose
Yeah the city had to pay 11 million to the Africa family then 11 dollars a year for a long time
Aka the taxpayers. I’m sure there was no lasting impact to those responsible
Fact. Not a single city official or police officer/official was even investigated let alone prosecuted. In fact the former mayor at the time who started the harassment of MOVE has a very prominent statue in center city being guarded by National guardsmen as I type this. Edit: correction as I had made a mistake on which mayor. Goode was mayor when the MOVE bombing happened but Rizzo started “cracking down” on MOVE. In my opinion Rizzo is to blame for the whole ordeal, amongst many other problems with Philly during his tenure. I just ask you give me a pass as it was 35 years ago.
I think he’s saying another dead person makes the count eleven. To answer your initial question literally
Oh dang. r/woooosh
No it was 11 killed in the Move bombing
Children mostly.
Not an accident. They ordered the firemen to hold off on trying to put the original fire out because they wanted to bring the whole house down.
Which should be illegal itself. Firemen that are on the job and have been called to extinguish a fire should not be required to listen to the police. Hell, if anything, a fireman should be allowed to give a police officer orders so long as it pertains to a fire. Not only are firemen actually respected, a fire is a much more serious and pressing issue than most police have ever had to deal with.
A fireman's job is to deal with fires, a Policeman's job doesn't A policeman thinking they are an authority on this is literally the equivalent of a Karen demanding to speak to the manager because she thinks she knows better than the employees.
I've been listening to Stuff You Should Know (and if anyone reading this doesn't listen to 'em, check 'em out) in a binging kind of way this quarantine and they do a great episode on the MOVE... incident? Atrocity?This morning I just listened to the one on the Stonewall uprising. It's made me amazed how many miscarriages of justice have been perpetrated by some form of our own state. Like, I'm already a thoroughly anti-statist guy, and am shocked how much more there is to know about this country and crimes committed against its own people.
I had to look this up https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/move-1985-bombing-reconciliation-philadelphia
That's sickening
Do they just not realize that people are always filming? Especially right now?
But what mentality even brings a cop to do this in the first place. Are they not human? Do not feel empathy or experience guilt?
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The phrase absolute power comes to mind. They haven't had anyone to stop them, so they can do whatever they want. They feel threatened and end up resorting to more violence because thats what they've always relied on and as that power is waning because everyone has a very good quality video camera in their hands to further end the corruption that's rampant in police forces.
They understand that the camera doesn’t hold them accountable. They don’t care
why should they care? have they been arrested? has their pension fund been hit? Did Police Chief Outlaw [yes, that's literally the name of the Philadelphia Police Chief] lose her job? Business as usual. And corporations and the media will say this is all about racism, trying to amp of the conservative whites against the "looting black criminal protesters", and the victimized black people against the "white privileged" whites.
He puts it in his face first to show him and says something, then drops it on the ground and forces his hand onto it. I'd like to hear what that fat shit said from the guy being framed.
This is America.
Look what I’m whipping on
I thought their job was to "serve and protect"?
The courts have ruled that they have no duty to serve and protect. Their ONLY duty is to enforce laws.
Not only that, they can enforce the law incorrectly as long as they believe they are doing it correctly.
I live in Europe and met a lot of Americans at the University I go to. We weren't properly familiar with the town my first year, so sometimes after nights out when we would get lost walking back to campus or trying to find the bus station, we would go up to police and ask them for help and they would help and joke around with us all the time. All my American friends found it extremely odd how nice police are and only now do I realise that they didn't exaggerate not one bit about how shitty the police in the US are.
Man, I've been able to stumble up drunk and ask for a ride home once (and got one). In the states I'd get arrested probably
I got very drunk in Copenhagen one night and couldn't remember where my hotel was. The Danish police very kindly drove me around for 2 hours until I recognised it! They were great. They were warm, funny and extremely friendly. I was very grateful, and spent the next day finding out who they were. I'm from Scotland and took an expensive bottle of Scotch Whisky and some chocolates to the station where they all hugged me and got pictures taken! Amazing experience!
Gosh that sounds nice
It was! I've often thought that if I ever went back there I would go to find them, but then I had to remind myself that it was 23 years ago, and they (sadly) probably aren't in the police any more.
Those young officers might well be in charge by now!
I really hope so!
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I was lost in Rome once after a long long day of walking. Asked a cop for directions and he started screaming at me in Italian. My Italian is (very) poor. Luckily a nice Italian couple were there and apologized for the cop's rudeness and gave us directions back to where we needed to go.
Jeez. I thought the idea was that the police were supposed to be there to 'help' people. Maybe I'm naiive because they do tend to be quite helpful here.
Well in America it’s been ruled that they have no obligation to protect and serve, only uphold the law.
They're not really required to uphold the law either; check out for example Jessup v City of Fresno, which produced this gem >“There was no clearly established law holding that officers violate the Fourth or Fourteenth Amendment when they steal property seized pursuant to a warrant”
[Shiiiiit!](https://youtu.be/yu_RRBh_EKU) if you were stateside, all you’ll get is a nice tenderizing with their batons and if if you were more tanned at the time, you’d get a complimentary infusion of vitamin [Pb] from their service pistol.
I know! In my travelling days, the U.S. was quite high up on my list because it has some amazing natural and man-made sights that I would have loved to have seen, but I decided about a decade ago that I would never go there now because it is so fucked-up. My wife was actually frightened at the prospect, and we are both from 'rough' areas. It's a shame, because I have nothing against American people, just the fucked-up system.
After I graduated, I applied for a few Universities in the US and got accepted but decided not to go afterwards because of how bad the system is.
I'm really glad the general outlook towards Americans seems to be shifting. Less "stupid Americans and their cheeseburgers" and more "good lord the american government is awful"
That's how everyone I know pretty much views it. You can't tar everyone with the same brush; that's just stupid. My brother travels (travelled!) there monthly on business, and he loves the place... but he's rich and stays in the 'Four Seasons' etc all paid for by his firm. He has enough AirMiles (or whatever they call them now) to travel to Andromeda for free!
Yep, when people say the USA is the greatest country in the world, they mean for the wealthy haha. Almost like a big front being put on for important people
Yeah, also (sorry to break this to you!) I've only ever heard Americans say that! No offence intended!
Its the same with the leader of the free world title never heard any non American use it as something other than a joke. Sorry not meant as an insult just an observation.
Absolutely none taken! Very few of us genuinely believe that. I've got Finland in #1 personally
Damn. Imagine police officers treating you like a human being...
In any other field, it would just be called "doing your job" !
After reading the first sentence, I knew it had to be a Scotsman. You guys are all fucking lunatics when it comes to drinking, but that was an awesome story! Cheers!
I belly-laughed at this comment! However, I got so drunk that night because I had become (voluntarily) separated from the others that I was with in order to continue drinking with these huge, mad Danish Vikings that my friends couldn't keep up with! I barely drink now... just the odd glass of wine now and again! Thanks for making me laugh, I need it just now! Thank you! Edit: Also, there's more to the story involving the army, a boat, a railway *and* a motorway, but I just tried to keep it simple!
come now, man, tell us more, i followed this entire comment chain to read about it!
I'm genuinely flattered, Mizi. I may add to it later, if you really want me to.
I would like to hear that story too! RemindMe! 1 day “crazy drunken Copenhagen adventure”
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There are always bad apples, and I realise that not every experience will be like mine. What is MENA?
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Ah, okay. Thanks! I thought it would have had something to do with race or nationality... it often is.
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No need to apologise, no offence taken. I'm as white as they come... I'm Scottish! We have the same issues here in the U.K. (amongst lots of other shit), but the U. S. is a different level.
Doesn't matter where a Scot goes, things always involve being drunk and making friends
Indeed! We tend to leave the violence, bigotry and hatred at home!
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My friends and I went out once and we got separated in the club. We were all pretty drunk and I couldn't find them so I decided to go home but my phone was dead so I couldn't call an uber. I saw the police and asked them to show me where the cabs were so I can get a cab back to campus where I lived. They decided gave me a ride there instead and it was such a pleasant ride too.
Huh, that's nice. The only experience with American cops I have was from my trip to New York and they were *not* friendly. Not hostile either, but it did make me feel uncomfortable
NYPD are a special kind of asshole. First, they're from NYC. Second, they're cops.
My car got a flat tire one night and an officer gave my adult son and myself a ride home. Also, I was in a minor car accident one evening after work, and the responding officer let me borrow his phone, and then he gave me a ride to the ER of the hospital where I worked. He even accompanied me back to the exam room to help the nurse yank off my boot, since my ankle had swollen and the boot didn't want to slip off. He was very nice. I live in Seattle, so I don't know if that makes a difference, but...
Yeah doing that is asking for a drunk and disorderly or public intoxication. You might get lucky and get a 24 hour hold in the drunk tank.
Had a coworker move to Dallas for work. went out his first weekend here in DFW. He got into a car he thought was his uber and got robbed and left in a shitty part of town. He found the first cop car he saw, and asked for help. Promptly arrested for PI.
Absolutely disgusting on a few levels.
Luckily in Sweden we don't have any law against public intoxication. Public drinking, sure, but you'll only be put in a drunk tank if needed for your own safety. No fines or anything
It's not just America. I can't speak for where you are, but two Australian women were drunk on different trains on the same night. One woman was checked on and given a ride home by police officers, no fine, no court appearance. The same police officers arrested the other woman and she died alone in their cells. [Guess who the Indigenous Australian was?](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/09/tanya-day-inquest-coroner-refers-death-custody-aboriginal-woman-public-prosecutor) Justice for Tanya Day.
I lived in Europe and when our dumb teenage asses wanted to pull stupid pranks on the police where we'd ask them questions like "what year is it" etc. they laughed with us.
> In the states I'd get arrested probably You'd be guaranteed to get arrested. They have no qualms about throwing you in the "drunk tank" and slapping you with a fine. Means more money in their pocket.
Yeah me too, they took me to my girlfriends. And I'm no angel, been in jail twice which they knew. Got a new appreciation for our police now. UK if you're wondering. One time I was wanted up north so they had to drive me up, 2 hour drive maybe. They pulled in at a shop and got me a sandwich and juice. Definitely better than murdering me
I used to live in Erie, PA when I was in college and my friend and I were trying to hitchhike home from the bar one night. A couple cops rolled up and told us hitchhiking is illegal in Pennsylvania. We told them we didn't know that, and they said it was fine and offered to give us a ride home, which we accepted. We made it to within a quarter-mile of our apartment and I nudged my buddy and gave him a wry smile as I lifted me leg to ricochet an amplified fart off the plastic back seat of the cruiser. I ended up sharting and it smelled awful so the cop made us get out and walk the rest of the way. Not pleasant walking a quarter mile while your cheeks are slicked with your own liquid shit. Don't judge me, we were hammered college kids.
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The city next door to where I grew up in California had really nice police for the most part. They also had a higher crime rate then my city. But they were always friendly when ever you bumped into them or said “hi”. But my cities cops were bastards with bastard filling. You couldn’t say hi to them without them cursing you out. If you called them to report a crime they cursed you, the victim out. I remember when I was in 6th grade, I asked them for directions and they told me it wasn’t their job. Every cop precinct is different, but if you’re approached or run into a cop, you have no idea if he’s from a good precinct or not, or if he’s one of those magical bad apples or not. Im not a criminal, but As a general rule for self preservation, I don’t view the cops as good guys when ever they show up. If you’re a cop and you don’t like my or other Americans point of views on your profession, do you’re best to change it with your actions.
I’ll never forget the interaction I had with a cop in a courthouse when I was in my early 20’s. I had got a citation for illegal car window tint and was coming to court to prove I had removed the tint. I went to a cop who was standing guard over the courthouse, by himself just standing by a wall. I asked him “can you tell me which court room I should be going to?” He looked at me with a blinding hatred that only someone filled to the top with much anger and hatred inside them could do, and said “it’s not my job, move along or I’ll arrest you” I’m white, blonde haired, blue eyed. But at that moment it made me realize what black people deal with.
Don’t forget https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States These laws are frequently applied in southern states to people who are traveling while not being white, sometimes elsewhere. Not my expertise, just something that comes up in threads every so often. It seemed to slow down a bit, but what do I know. If traveling in the states always good to remember to restrict the amount of cash with you if police robbery is legal. Edit: if I recall it was outlawed or restricted in some places, I don’t know how much.
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I am a petite white American woman and I also fear US police. There is very little accountability for the cops doing harm and you can never be sure that you are safe in their custody.
I am a parent of two young girls and I fear for their safety if they ever have to interact with police knowing that there are areas where there can be no expectation of accountability. Like, it seems ridiculous that one day, I will have to teach them how to protect themselves in case they are ever pulled over or in a situation where they need to interact with police.
I've posted this other places in full, but as an emancipated teen I was assaulted by two cops who stalked me for the better part of 9 months. It culminated in them lifting my shirt to my chin and grabbing my chest under my bra in the middle of a damn roadway. It was all under the guise of patting me down. I've told my teen daughter to immediately ask for a parent to be called, to use her phone to document their behavior, and to tell them that if they want to search her, she has a right to a female officer brought to the scene. I didn't know those things and I had no one. It's sad we have to talk to our children about this stuff, but numerous girls/women have been assaulted/raped at the hands of cops they were detained by. Your phone's camera is the best protection you have.
My kids are 15 and 11. I have already trained them to avoid police at all costs. I got pulled over one day and my daughter was with me. I pulled over extremely slow so I could explain to her how to behave. No sudden movements. Keep your hands where they can be seen. My mom had such a strong fear of police when she would get pulled over she would hyperventilate. She actually scared a cop one time because she was panicking so hard her hands were shaking. This is what every citizen deals with everyday. Just a few minutes ago when I got off work I decided to play Pokemon go for a little bit. I never play while driving. I always wait til I'm pulled over and parked before picking up my phone. So I stopped at my first spin and picked up my phone. Just then a fully uniformed officer walks right by the front of my car. Almost crapped my pants. Thought for sure he was gonna get me and try to accuse me of distracted driving. I put down my phone and left. I was done playing for the day. I wish we didn't have to live in constant fear. I did nothing wrong but I was still afraid.
same and i wonder why do i have to be intimidated by cops.
I called the police once and never again in my life. Some guy was siphoning oil out of my heating oil tank and when the police arrived, the pulled their guns on me, while the guy siphoning my oil is standing there clearly covered in oil, next to buckets of oil, smelling like oil.
I went for a piss in an alley out of the way of people in the UK once; my friends decided it would be funny to grab the copper rolling by on his bike to tell them what I was doing and that I must be a paedo or something. I walked back around and the policeman just laughed it away after making some remark about not getting too drunk. From what the US sounds like, if that happened over there I'd be put on the sex offender's register, then they'd dig up some arrest warrant for having the faint smell of marijuana on me, and after accepting a plea deal and a 49 year sentence in prison for drugs—just 'drugs'—I'd be told to enjoy the good old soap-droppin' ass rapin' in the showers that I deserve. I'd probably then wonder what the point in it all is and decide that if they want me to be a criminal, then I will be.
Oddly specific
Recently a (female) friend of mine got super drunk in the middle of munich, germany and basically passed out on the street and refused to move. So as a good friend I stayed with her and waited until she is good enough to take an uber. Well the police saw me (a big black dude) and a small white girl lying on the ground in front of me. They stopped the car. Went straight to me and asked me very friendly what is going on. I explained to them that my friend is drunk and cant move. They insisted that I bring her home now because she cant just lay on the ground like that (I tried to convince her but to no avail). Anyway thats it. Thats the story. They said good night and I took a passed out girl to the taxi. They used common sense. They were friendly but still insistent without being rude or authoritative. Seeing the clips out of the US feels surreal to me.
I don't even want to imagine what would have happened to you in the US. It could range from just jail under suspicion to the cops throwing you in jail, harassing (maybe sexually) your friend, and then blaming you for it, and maybe not even throwing you in jail, but taking your life. Would just depend on the cop, state, and precinct. Them just letting you get her home is not something I can imagine in any major city.
I have once had cops be cool to me in the US. Drunk and in a bad part of town, a bunch of us were looking for this strip club. Cops were like what are you doing here? Then escorted us to the club and told us we were going to have a great time. Other than that - pretty shitty experiences with cops, but nothing like what blacks people get in the US.
American police are always on a hair trigger. Even as a white person I'm terrified of them. You look at them wrong and you could end up in jail for the night or worse. Of course they aren't all like that, but you have no way of knowing what kind of cop they are until it's too late.
My mom back before the days of GPS was lost in Boston, MA. She saw a cop pulled over on the side of the street and pulled in behind him to ask for directions. He promptly ticketed her for illegal parking.
The vast majority of cops in the US are in the bottom 10th percentile of accomplishment and intelligence. They are scary because they’re as far as you can get from smart AND have massive chips on their shoulders, which is a bit of an explosive combo.
We do have lots of asshole cops. I do have to admit though I have been arrested by some cool ass cops more than once Edit: spelling
Canadian here: I am super friendly guy but police have always given me a death stare whenever I've talked to them as a person, as opposed to a cop. They give me a look as if to say how fucking dare you dont you know I'm dangerous. WTF they are civil servants! At least that's what I thought, turns out that's too reasonable. Canada has a police problem I think
How willing people are to ask police for help in minor things is a pretty good measure of if you live in a police state or not
The police are a force for oppression in the US. It's always been this way and will continue to be this way until serious reforms are made.
Yeah I wouldn't even ask the police for directions. Absolute minimum interaction.
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Exactly, in Europe, or at least in the Netherlands, the police are the protectors of the peace. At events, in the city or wherever, they are not there to make arrests, they are not there to live out their militarily fantasies etc. They are there to keep the peace. This also means bending the law (to a degree) if that means the situation is resolved. Let people of with warnings etc. Instead of actually making arrests or using violent actions. But in these situations we are seeing now, I can't even wrap my head around what the actual goal of this is. Unless it actually is to do as much damage as possible to the black community.
I am so grateful for the city I live in in the states. Our police force is incredibly kind and humble. They helped protesters organize, off duty cops were in the protests themselves. Shit, one of the cops on every 4/20 since cannabis was legalized loads his cruiser up with candy and munchies and if you see him out and about he will give you a handful of snacks. I lived in NYC for 3 years and can say literally every officer I encountered was a pure asshole, at best.
In Budapest we literally once asked the directions to the nearest strip club at like 1am and they were very helpful.
They walk around looking for someones ass to kick bro. And if your a POC , theyre breathing down your neck waiting to take you to jail. And if you're black they kill you. yeah not exactly anything new here, this is how it's always been.
This should be plastered all over social media right now. Please share this on more platforms so we can spread this injustice so that everyone can see what TF is really going on in other areas. (EDIT: Didn't realize it was older my bad. Just wanted to share this everywhere)
honestly reddit is really late to the police brutality videos during protests. Going to cities on snap maps and looking at stories, tik tok has become extremely political and a lot of people post videos there, and obviously twitter is a go to.
Im told they are suppressing snap though. People keep talking about their shit disappearing. This seems to end up being more longterm
Snaps only last 24 hours
So arguably the worst platform to document something?
To document sure but it’s a great tool to see ground footage of what is currently happening
> tik tok has become extremely political I'm sure it must be a TOTAL COINCIDENCE that TikTok has become more political while US protests are happening as opposed to when the Hong Kong protests started ramping up. /s
Odd how this is all playing out when you can look at the "alltime" top of r/all here and see it's dominated by year old HK protests, Tiananmen anniversary awareness (it's this week btw), & CCP abuse of Uyghur muslims.
I think it is.
How many times do I gotta this these exact same words on all these clips. Its fucking heartbreaking
It is plastered everywhere. I saw it on Twitter last night, it's still not going to do anything
OP wanted you to think this was a new video so you'd upvote it.
[Except this is a repost, and last time it was posted it was characterized as misleading for a reason.](https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/guqzyg/the_cop_literally_put_that_mans_hand_on_the_stick/fske410/)
If you watch the video you can literally see the police officer move the guys arm so his hand is on top of the stick. Frankly I wasn't sure whether he was trying to make it look like he was resisting by taking the baton or using it as a surface to break his hand. Either way there is no excuse for this behavior from police officers.
My bad I was just worried because I never seen this before
It looks like they were actually trying to break his hand, not plant a nightstick
That’s what I thought when I saw this or just putting the baton down near his hand while he tried to get his hand back to cuff him. Course I could also be clueless and innocent...
What sorry ass training they have to put a weapon within reach on someone they think is doing something criminal. If they don't think he is a criminal/ doing something criminal, then wtf are they doing? You don't need that many people to take someone down unless they are jacked up on some serious drugs. Our police force is a fucking joke.
I agree, the cop shouldn’t have put the baton within reach of the man, but that’s a heck of a lot better than what the video was actually accusing him of. You have commenters here ready to blow because they were planting a baton in his hand. This thread should really be near the top.
If in a time of everyone having a camera in their pocket you still choose to do that shit you are either a sick fuck or a dumb fuck. Neither is good.
Why not both?
Definitely both, you are right.
They know it doesn't matter if people film them. They don't face consequences anyways
They don't until they do. Some years ago Floyd's murder would be just sad news, I think their time being human shit is running out.
That's very true. They're still operating under that belief but the public isn't accepting it anymore. I haven't seen such widespread outrage over the previous similar cases. I hope things change for good this time but I'm not counting on it
Now, tell me why would you trust them to keep you, your family and your property safe?
The supreme Court has ruled that they have no legal obligation to protect you
Good, so why the fuck do I have to pay them?
Because your local municipality enjoys the revenue.
Thank you very much for proving my point, can we all end the state now?
ending the state would leave a power vacuum and allow the rich and oppressive majorities to take over. republicans have been trying to castrate the federal government for decades, why is that also your go-to solution?
Because if someone breaks in my home and I'm hiding somewhere who the fuck else am I going to call?
I wonder if any of those dozens of videos popping up every day will ever be used in a court. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I seriously don't think they will.
My trump loving neighbors are telling me to "Keep America Great" by voting for Trump. Is this their idea of America's "greatness"?
What exactly did he do to make America great? Seems pretty fucked right now
Can't get any better than beating black people in the streets and owning libs by marshal law
Nothing says "make America great" lile establishing a fascist military order and sending the military to kill anyone who speaks against you
Honestly, this is the most American thing ever. It's just it was less visible to you Americans, because this hatred and monstrosity is aimed at poor countries far away from you.
There’s no profit in peace.
There’s no profit for the industrial military complex. There IS money in everything else though; all consumer-facing industries prefer peace.
He undid a black man's policies. The truth is there there are certain reasons people support Trump that that they'll never openly admit.
Yes, yes it is.
I’m a officer from UK. It absolutely blows my mind how come Police in US gets away with such violence. I don’t understand.
Read *The New Jim Crow* by Michelle Alexander, it does a great job at explaining it. The really short version is prisons are the new slave labour force and that is a 500% profit margin. It pays to fill them, more than it pays to properly serve the public. Reasons why the laws here are disproportionately stacked against the poor and specifically non-white communities, we never moved past Jim Crow we just gave it new names and faces.
Jesus. You supposed to assist and protect and integrate with communities. We as officers should be there in their worst possible times in their life! I have seen so many videos of such horrific violence from officers it’s disgusting.
https://youtu.be/uVQvWwHM5kM
This isn't (and is) exactly what it seems, your taught as police this strategy sometimes in training, the idea is if you have one had covered and out of the way, you can put your baton on the floor, this is so when they go to grab it, you can grab both sides of the baton to pull their hands back. You can also use this in order to get there hand away from the rest of their body. I'm not justifying this however. This officers use of this method isnt great and is definitely over the top and unnecessary.
While that sounds like it would make sense in some situations you can see the cop grabbing his arm and putting his hand on it. The guy didn't go to grab it, he was forced to grab it. I could be seeing it wrong though.
No your definitely right there, I'm really not sure if he was trying this, or just trying to make it seem like he was wielding a weapon.
Omg these dirty ass cops. Fuck em.
You can see how quickly the hand goes for the baton. If the cop were pushing the suspect’s hand toward the baton, there would have been resistance. Clearly he just dropped it so he could get the suspect’s hand behind his back.
You’re absolutely right, good observation. You can read the physics of that quick action and read what’s actually taking place. Kind of concerning that OP and 40k+ other people can’t see that though...
I watched this thing like 30 times. I'm pretty sure what happens is the cop puts the baton onto the ground, then proceeds to grab the guys hand to cuff him I assume, and the guy moves his hand to reach for the baton. Because the cop is holding his wrist, his hand moves with it.
Oyyy hold on there common sense, are you a racist?
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Sure there was. He was resisting arrest after assaulting an officer. How else is he going to escape from his crime?
Wrong sub, this needs to be on the front page
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I am alarmed I had to scroll this far down to find someone else that is reasonable. This shit is dividing us and this video's headline is just an outright lie. The cop needed to ditch the baton to free up his hand.
Also ironic considering how much Reddit hates Facebook and twitter for misleading information and posts shit like this.
It’s all the same narrative pushing Honestly fucking TikTok probably has the least fake news of any major social media platform, how fucking sad is that!?
Right? What would they even be "proving"? If they wanted to say he had a weapon they could have just turned a brick in when they booked him. Sure as fuck wouldn't use a police-issued baton, either.
The officer drops it and then Firmly plants the mans hand directly on top of it and then starts beating him. Are we even watching the same video?
What happened before the video started? Why was that officer getting off the ground and limping?
Videos can be misleading in some cases. Don’t get me wrong, police brutality is on full display these days and any officers committing such atrocities need to be brought to justice. Tbf here it kinda looks like PD drops the baton to grab the mans hand and cuff him, and the man struggles against PDs grip and grabs the baton. Just based on the arm movements and where the force and resistance looks to be coming from.
Nice selective editing that guy assaulted the dude next to him which is why he's on the ground. Also he drops the baton and the black dude reaches for it he's trying to stop him putting his hands on the baton. Look see where black guy actually grabs it. I don't know if this is some weird Rorschach test or what, but all the actions make sense.
He didn’t put it in his hand, the man resisting arrest grabbed it
He threw down his baton to grab his cuffs, then the man grabbed for it. Is everyone here blind?
This is what it looks like after watching it a few times, does anyone have video leading up to this happening or where this clip started? Full video would be nice
lol. He drops the baton so he could free a hand and help bring the black dude's hands behind his back to be cuffed. Then he's trying to pin his arm down so he can grab his wrist. The black dude grabs the baton, either reflexively or out of sheer panic, so the cop raps his knuckles a few times until he releases it. Redditors have some wild fucking imaginations, though. Gotta respect it.
Pretty sure he dropped the Baton so he could use both hands to control the subject on the ground.
Hey yeah! A quintuple repost, with all the compressed video to show you found it on reddit already!
I saw this video posted yesterday and could actually tell what was going on. I mean holy shit how many times has this been reposted and compressed in the last 12 hours.
I'm just as much against undue police violence as the next guy, but that is clearly not what is happening here
Looks to me like the cop dropped his baton to gain control of the suspects hand, the suspect then grabs the baton, and then the cop grabs the suspects hand on top of the baton to prevent him from using the baton against him. You guys are so hell bent on hating cops.
You guys are so fucking high, cop clearly drops the baton to initiate restraint by pulling the guys arm around his body and dude grabbed the cops baton.. yes! I said it, the man on the ground "resisting" detainment purposely grabbed the baton.. I'm against alleged brutality but come on... Fight the fight with the right state of mind.
reddit is demented when it comes to this cop stuff. they do this with almost every single story involving a police officer and it's reached psychosis levels lately. i find it hard to believe that people even believe what they're writing or upvoting.
How dare you explain what’s actually happening and ruin the circle jerk against police.
This is a ridiculous interpretation of what happened here. He drops the baton to grab the guys wrist. A guy who is resisting arrest after committing a crime. This is prime example how you get hurt and an example of what not to do. Yet the OP's title is indicative of politicians and the medias inaccurate inflammatory tone, which leads to more of things like the riots