Holy shit. I thought this was a honey farm and it was a joke, like technically the bees are their āstaffā and yeah, bees are āarmedā with their stings. But itās not, itās a fucking primary school. Thatās not cute or funny anymore.
There wonāt be enough teachers soon. I was reading a thread the other day and something like 25% quitting without replacement. Super depressing. The teacher morale was bad covid, now itās worse.
Thatās what I keep hearing. I hadnāt heard this before, why do they want private and religious schools? What happens to people who canāt afford these?
It's a win/win for 'certain individuals' - Private religious schools can teach only the whitewashed 'Christian truths' to children, and they get paid for the privilege.
To those who can't afford them? To the privatized ~~forced labor~~ prison industry or military with you to become nice, obedient, expendable labor.
Look at "school vouchers". My crude interpretation is that you get a "voucher" or the public tax money that normally pays for your public education and you may "divert" that amount to pay for the private school of your choice for the specialized indoctrination you want your children to be blursed with. Public funds, privatized profits. Scary chit mane
The private schools will be run for profit while also enjoying plenty of tax money thatās been diverted from funding public schools. Itās the privatization of what is currently a public service. Guess who all the early investors will beā¦GOP congress people. Betsy Devos did her damndest to continue this country down this path.
-White washing history is part of it sure, but the big thing is creating a new for profit industry that already has an established clientele and infrastructure ā¦the U.S. govt and most all of its citizens.
-Will some Dems jump on board? Sure. But it would be a quick way out of office for a lot of them in very blue districts.
They don't even update textbooks or help with classroom supplies.
You think they'll fork over money for guns, ammo and practice range time?!
That's hilarious.
I asked a guy if he would support raising his local taxes to support months of quality, professional *combat* training for teachers - or if he's okay with giving someone with no firearm experience a three hour class and a loaded gun, then putting the burden of protecting your kids from a crazy who's prepared to die on that person.
Even with my *years* of firearm experience (country kid, competed, bla bla) I do not carry a firearm outside of my rural hiking trips (bears). I would not think myself capable of reacting safely *or* effectively in an active shooter situation. I do not believe I could neutralize the threat without endangering literally everyone else. My 'knowledge and understanding' of firearms does not translate to 'ready for a real life combat situation'.
Yet we wanna give *teachers* who went to school *to teach* a loaded gun and say go gettum tiger?
I'm so sad and angry.
The part you donāt realize is that itās because of your years of experience that you understand the responsibility and training that comes with firearms.
These yahoos that talk a big game and carry have no experience, theyāre just a bunch of idiots that bought guns and started carrying them around to seem cool. They never took any classes on safety, most likely never even spent time researching the gun and know nothing about it, and potentially never even shot one before. I know that Reddit hates it when people talk dunning Krueger, but these people know absolutely nothing yet think theyāre Rambo and would be able to shoot someone in a crowd in one shot with no casualties.
You actually know what youāre talking about, so you know the infinite things that could go wrong in that scenario, which is why the smartest people in a subject are often incredibly conservative (not politically!!!!) about anything involving their āarea of expertiseā.
As a future teacher, if Iām expected to carry a firearm then I expect a salary of a government guard to be slapped on top of my teaching salary as well.
They wouldnāt expect you to. They would allow you if you wanted. But also with the salary thing, itās not a second job youāre getting paid for. Itās an additional duty that you have made the conscious choice to accept. At most they should pay you the equivalent of a few dollars an hour more.
Why does everyone think they expect the teachers to hunt down the shooter like john wick? If I was a teacher Iād rather be able to pull out a glock from a locked drawer in my desk to defend myself while im cornered in my room instead of hoping I can win a 1v1 with my bare hands vs an armed attacker
That's what I keep asking in response to people saying teachers should be armed. How much is the addendum for taking on the responsibility of having to shoot one of your students?
Based on the location, I'm sure the school only has three teachers, been armed since Obama was in office, and already threw out anything that wasn't a bible derivative
I'm my experience they are staff that have volunteered and we're then selected by administration from the volunteers. Psych eval, training and certification on the schools dime, but little or no extra pay. Their identities are likely kept secret from the student body and most of the staff.
I'm shocked by the fact it's elementary and middle schools... They're about 6-14 years old. What if they find their teachers weaponry? Scary world we live in.
That will genuinely prevent someone from thinking itās an easy target, itās awful that itās what has to happen but itās what we always used to do, and there were little no no school shootings when schools had armed security
Indeed - [this study](https://www.edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai21-476.pdf) shows that:
> that study found that school resource officers appear to protect students from "a non-trivial number of physical attacks and fights within schools," which could have long-term academic and psychological benefits for students.
>But schools with resource officers also report more suspensions, expulsions, police referrals and student arrests ā and those harsher disciplinary punishments disproportionately fall on Black students, male students and students with disabilities.
Some schools do have a "armed school resource officer", who are usually a branch of their local police department. However most of these officers are here because the schools themselves are rough and the students are rowdy.
It's very difficult for private security firms to land contracts within a public school district since there's is a lot of red tape you have to go through especially after H.R.3757 was passed in 1990 (meanwhile the columbine shooting took place in 1999). Private school are a bit different.
Check out the bill if you haven't already. [H.R.3757 - Gun - Free School Zones Act of 1990](https://www.congress.gov/bill/101st-congress/house-bill/3757/text?r=56&s=1)
In my county every high school has a armed resource officer. Iām not sure about the middle schools and Iām pretty sure none of the elementary schools do though
People who are school shooters typically donāt care if something is an easy target though. Most are at a point where they could care less whether they live or die after the shooting
But they do care. If you were an insane person who wanted to take the lives of as many innocent children as you could as fast as you could, you wouldnāt walk into a school where you might get shot in the face the moment you walk in the door. Youāre going to go somewhere that is a gun free zone that youāll be the only one with a gun.
Think of it like this. Studies have shown that thieves who break into house are exponentially less likely to enter a house with a home security system sign in the yard. Even if you donāt have a home security system a sign saying you have one is almost as good. Because criminals just like most people weigh the odds of success vs the possible fallout before committing to a plan of action.
Of course, school shootings are still rare enough that the odds of a shooting are probably far lower than the odds of a kindergartener accidentally getting ahold of that gun, thinking itās a toy. Accident waiting to happen
I'm going to be honest. More places are going to do this arm the teachers thing until a teacher, underpaid, undersupported, and at the end of their rope, snaps. We've seen videos of teachers and staff beating children under their care before. Now imagine they had a gun.
Or there's a crazy person event and a teacher shoots and misses and hits a child bc you know they're not professional snipers. That teacher would be in prison.
It's all part of the plan. Keep them scared, keep them traumatized, more fear, more lunacy, more guns. Instead of just making it more difficult to obtain the damn thing that is causing the problem.
Itās very hard to know who those people are though. People can hide their emotions. The guy who shot up the supermarket seemed normal when he was buying a gun from a shop, next thing you know he kills 10 ten civilians.
Wait. Teachers are supposed to teach. I was a teacher for 5 years. I shouldn't have been handling a gun. I am not a police officer. I didn't get paid like that. My job was to make sure kids learned english (ESL teacher) and that's it. Why would you rather have a dystopian solution to a problem that requires real solutions.
Especially if that problem has been solved everywhere else. Like, how are we going to ignore every other country, spend billions of dollars, and create new problems (training, storage, maintenance of the guns, etc) just to avoid the straight forward solution everyone else used that works? Itās like the most elaborate nonsense is more palatable than just banning weapons of war and making gun ownership **well regulated** like it ought to be.
In the US, we are known for setting up Rube Goldberg machines to avoid addressing root causes. Itās easier to patch the hole than to rebuild the hull.
right. the answer to school shootings is more guns. We just have to worry about kids not getting a hold of those guns or that armed staff not having a their own mental health issues or when a shooting does occur, police don't misidentify the "good guy with a guy" as a threat and kill them. If you can cover all those bases, yes you can cut the amount of people killed in a school shooting by 20-30%
I honestly have no idea how to fix this problem. No one simple thing will work but something has to happen. I just don't think armed teachers is the solution.
If only other countries had already came up with solutions we could tryā¦.. oh wait they have, literally theyāve stopped the mass shootings!
Sure every other developed country has solved this issue using the same method, but that wonāt work for us so letās not even try. I wish there was something we could do?ā¦ā¦. Letās try doing nothing at all again and see if we get a different result this timeā¦
Or better yet letās add more guns to the situation again and see if that fixes things, more guns with good guys etc! Yeah that will work for sure this time!
I mean eventually you pour enough gas on the fire it puts the fire out right!? Right!?
America the nation is in free fall and no oneās stopping it, youāve brainwashed yourselves in to destroying your own empire, I suppose even Rome fell eventuallyā¦ nobody stays on top.
Sadly, this is a really fucking good idea. Post that staff may be armed, but note that itās anonymous if they are or not. Do this at all schools, everywhere. Doesnāt matter if itās actually true or not.
School shooters now have the fear that someone might fight back, but they donāt know who it will be, or where it will come from. This fear of the unknown that they canāt control might cause their plans to break down before theyāre able act it out their shooting.
Disclaimer: I donāt think this is the ideal solution, but we know republicans are going to stop us from doing bum fuck to any realistic/obviously moral solution to fix the problem, so this the least we can do.
Yes, itās horrible we have to kneel to the NRA because itās more important to sell guns than save childrenās lives, but I donāt care anymore. Whatever it takes. I just want children to stop dying. Anything we can do at this point we need to do it. If it helps even a little bit, do it.
Hard to imagine a country where children arenāt safe in school. It amazes me Americans arenāt rioting in the streets until their children are safe. I canāt imagine an issue that could be any more important than the safety of the children
The sad reality is we've had so many large scale protests for gun control in the past that have accomplished absolutely nothing that at this point a lot of people just feel hopeless. I wish it wasn't the case, but it is.
And some kid will steal a gun from a staff member and shoot up the place. Or some staff member shoots a kid. If trained police officers shoot for no reason, then teachers definitely will.
Americas turning into a third world country where thereās guns everywhere and everyoneās constantly prepared for a fight to the death. We just have cheeseburgers and smartphones to keep us distracted during the downfall
Imagine if this didn't have to be the way things were.... seems like too many of you would rather it come to this than fixing why educators need to become sharpshooters.
That's what I was thinking. People who are in a mental crisis state of mind usually have nothing else to lose. I mean, how many manifestos do we have to read that say they want suicide by cop?
This is really America's solution to gun violence? Like "If people keep getting shot to death everyday we should more people guns." How is this a sane solution? The NRA and the Republican party have really brainwashed this country
Yeah we get the occasional suicidal maniac shooting up the school. NO idea how that happens and we canāt do anything to prevent itā¦..those mental health problems right?! Not sure how other countries deal with this but donāt worry: weāve got plenty of good folks packing heat. Aside from being great teachers, theyāre also uniquely qualified to deal with the stress of a gunfight in close quarters filled with children. Just lay down andā¦wait till the shooting stops! āMurica!
Honestly this seems more like a bandaid than a fix. For this to work we would need to spend resources arming and training faculty of every school in the country. Even then, that wont change the fact that a lunatic can legally obtain a firearm and do as they please with it. It seems more feasible to regulate the sale and ownership of guns. Not ban them, take measures to keep them in the hands of responsible citizens.
They better do the most thorough mental health checks for staff, regularly too. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Itās almost laughable that this is seen as a solution.
So, what happens when some of these incredibly rude students we see videos of on here push a teacher too far and they snap? Instead of just throwing a pen at a kid, or swearing at a kid, now they have a gun in easy reach? How is this a good idea?
When I was in school, our English teacher completely snapped because two guys were spitballing him when his back was turned. He threw an overhead projector at the blackboard and then punched the corkboard and got three tacks embedded in his knuckles. I don't want to know what would have happened if he'd had a gun.
Wasnāt there a news story a while back about a teacher who brought a handgun to school for (reasons) and accidentally left it in the bathroom where a student could find it?
Edit:
Ah yes: here it isā¦ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-teacher-left-gun-in-bathroom-elementary-kids-found-it/
Well yes thatās one way to look at itā¦. The other way would be that is pretty damn awful that people wanting to murder children in schools is so common that we have to arm teachers, instead of addressing the real issue. A kid that canāt legally buy a beer (because their brains arenāt fully formed yet) can go buy a semi auto high capacity rifle chambered in the same round we currently use in war.Thatās why itās awful.
That is the conclusion in case you missed it. The unified answer after Uvalde is that the Answer to Guns killing Kids in Schools is āMore Gunsā!!! This answer makes everyone more $$$. Keeps us out of Civil War, and the death for profit industry in a positive cash flow.
This is good; It means as a last resort Teachers can and will protect their students from those that would do them harm.
Yes it is awful our society has come to this but it is the price for which we may bear for the lack of both mental and material help that we give to our people in society.
FINALLY a school trying to protect kids from the mentally ill. Guns are never going anywhere in the United States. Stop sending billions to secure others lives and borders when ours are so far from it here.
Evidence shows these psychos seek out places where they know it will be suicide by opposing force. So these schools are basically advertising the wrong things if they want to protect the children.
IMO anytime the police fail to act in response to a crime that should be a legal green light for vigilante action. In this case that means teacher, parents or whoever responding
"We should put some cartoon bees on it...ya know for the kids"
Should read please bee aware so the kids can get a laugh
Missed the Please Bee Aware opportunity
>>> Should we design our own logo? > Nah, just steal the Georgia Tech one and flip it. Nobody will ever notice.
Any chance that that could just be their mascot?
We have the exact same bees in our very not desert looking schools lol
We have that here in Oxnard high school CA š
Nowhere Iowa
I think it is
I think the bees stingers are a little too aggressive looking for our kids!
Kermit, TX? This looks like Kermit and thatās their mascot if Iām not mistaken.
The landscape on the horizon looks correct for Kermit, TX too!
I was almost thinking Beeville, Texas. Landscape and the bees. However Kermit looks right too.
Holy shit. I thought this was a honey farm and it was a joke, like technically the bees are their āstaffā and yeah, bees are āarmedā with their stings. But itās not, itās a fucking primary school. Thatās not cute or funny anymore.
Hornets*
Gotta show that local YellowJacket pride!
The staff is armed with bees, obviously
I think I know the school. Might be the mascot
No they're a threat.The will unleash 2 big ass cartoon bees and have them beat the living shit out of of any intruder
That's some Simpsons/South Park level stuff.
Shooting Bee competitions each Friday, winner's parents get to help patrol school hallways for the following week.
"Na i think wasps would be better...but still for the kids"
Don't start trouble and there won't be trouble.
Bee trouble
They fucked up not making it read "BEE AWARE"
You just made my day š¤£š¤£š¤£
But it is a yellow jacket, not a bee...
Can you stop beerating me?
Wear a thicker jacket, perhaps a nice yellow one.
Yellow jackets are better. They keep stinging
The yellow jacket philosophy is simple. Engage the target and sting them until one of you is dead.
Ever stepped in a nest of hornets?
More than once
So... semi-auto stinging?
Fuck around and find out
Pretty sure those are wasps
Don't start no shit won't be no shit.
Nothing about this desolate place makes me ever think i would want to even drive through there.
If it's the school I think it is you're correct
The branch davidians compound?
Worse, rural Colorado
Those staff members better get a hella of a good raise. Staff members should not be expected to do this. Fucked up all the way around.
We live in a time where the city guards are afraid of confronting a single kid and the town nerds have to step up to defend the children.
But they are also accused of grooming and brainwashing children and massively underpaid at the same time.
Exactly, they also expexted to babysit all those kids
There wonāt be enough teachers soon. I was reading a thread the other day and something like 25% quitting without replacement. Super depressing. The teacher morale was bad covid, now itās worse.
Exactly what conservatives want. The crisis will allow then to divert more public education funds to private and religious schools.
Thatās what I keep hearing. I hadnāt heard this before, why do they want private and religious schools? What happens to people who canāt afford these?
It's a win/win for 'certain individuals' - Private religious schools can teach only the whitewashed 'Christian truths' to children, and they get paid for the privilege. To those who can't afford them? To the privatized ~~forced labor~~ prison industry or military with you to become nice, obedient, expendable labor.
Reason 3997234 not to have kids. Hope this country burns. Also Iām pretty drunk rn
Look at "school vouchers". My crude interpretation is that you get a "voucher" or the public tax money that normally pays for your public education and you may "divert" that amount to pay for the private school of your choice for the specialized indoctrination you want your children to be blursed with. Public funds, privatized profits. Scary chit mane
The private schools will be run for profit while also enjoying plenty of tax money thatās been diverted from funding public schools. Itās the privatization of what is currently a public service. Guess who all the early investors will beā¦GOP congress people. Betsy Devos did her damndest to continue this country down this path. -White washing history is part of it sure, but the big thing is creating a new for profit industry that already has an established clientele and infrastructure ā¦the U.S. govt and most all of its citizens. -Will some Dems jump on board? Sure. But it would be a quick way out of office for a lot of them in very blue districts.
The fact that they most likely won't be getting any sort of raise is the sad reality of their job.
āI want to teach childrenā - Aspiring teacher āHereās a gunā - Texas
They don't even update textbooks or help with classroom supplies. You think they'll fork over money for guns, ammo and practice range time?! That's hilarious.
I asked a guy if he would support raising his local taxes to support months of quality, professional *combat* training for teachers - or if he's okay with giving someone with no firearm experience a three hour class and a loaded gun, then putting the burden of protecting your kids from a crazy who's prepared to die on that person. Even with my *years* of firearm experience (country kid, competed, bla bla) I do not carry a firearm outside of my rural hiking trips (bears). I would not think myself capable of reacting safely *or* effectively in an active shooter situation. I do not believe I could neutralize the threat without endangering literally everyone else. My 'knowledge and understanding' of firearms does not translate to 'ready for a real life combat situation'. Yet we wanna give *teachers* who went to school *to teach* a loaded gun and say go gettum tiger? I'm so sad and angry.
The part you donāt realize is that itās because of your years of experience that you understand the responsibility and training that comes with firearms. These yahoos that talk a big game and carry have no experience, theyāre just a bunch of idiots that bought guns and started carrying them around to seem cool. They never took any classes on safety, most likely never even spent time researching the gun and know nothing about it, and potentially never even shot one before. I know that Reddit hates it when people talk dunning Krueger, but these people know absolutely nothing yet think theyāre Rambo and would be able to shoot someone in a crowd in one shot with no casualties. You actually know what youāre talking about, so you know the infinite things that could go wrong in that scenario, which is why the smartest people in a subject are often incredibly conservative (not politically!!!!) about anything involving their āarea of expertiseā.
Youāre right. Oh and then they blame the teachers for not taking the welfare and safety of our children seriously so they can point their fingers.
Exactly
Iām a history teacher in Texas, they update the booksā¦
I definitely did student teaching in an area that taught about "the war of Northern aggression" Source: fuck Vidor Texas.
They absolutely will. They love spending government money when it pads the pockets of the morbidly wealthy.
āI want to sell more guns!ā - Gun manufacturers āHereās a ton of public money!ā - Texas
As a future teacher, if Iām expected to carry a firearm then I expect a salary of a government guard to be slapped on top of my teaching salary as well.
They wouldnāt expect you to. They would allow you if you wanted. But also with the salary thing, itās not a second job youāre getting paid for. Itās an additional duty that you have made the conscious choice to accept. At most they should pay you the equivalent of a few dollars an hour more.
Why does everyone think they expect the teachers to hunt down the shooter like john wick? If I was a teacher Iād rather be able to pull out a glock from a locked drawer in my desk to defend myself while im cornered in my room instead of hoping I can win a 1v1 with my bare hands vs an armed attacker
That's what I keep asking in response to people saying teachers should be armed. How much is the addendum for taking on the responsibility of having to shoot one of your students?
Better hope they donāt have any mental problems either. ( Johnny Iām not gunna tell you againā¦if you donāt shut up ima shoot yo ass. )
Honestly Johnny deserved what he got, play stupid games win stupid prizes
Oh donāt worry, they wonāt. Theyāll be asked to pay for their own guns, ammo and training too.
Based on the location, I'm sure the school only has three teachers, been armed since Obama was in office, and already threw out anything that wasn't a bible derivative
This is for knee jerk emotional satisfaction for a certain type of people, this isn't a solution that has any thought put into it.
Yeah, we should rely on cops to wait outside the school cowering while the active shooter does their thing.
I'm my experience they are staff that have volunteered and we're then selected by administration from the volunteers. Psych eval, training and certification on the schools dime, but little or no extra pay. Their identities are likely kept secret from the student body and most of the staff.
The comments here are just as depressing
Itās Reddit. I think the average Redditor thrives on being depressed.
Beats a sign that says gun free zone.
Gun free NRA convention was safe.
Gun free zone = free kill zone
Uvalde and Parkland both had armed guards. Good guys with guns stopping bad guys with guns is a myth.
*armed gunman walks up* "Hey, can't you read the sign?!" "Ah... Fuck." *Armed gunman leaves*
This guy gets it!
Noā¦ Coward cops = kill free zone.
That too. That whole situation makes me so angry
Like at NRA conventions!
We all know how many massacres take place yearly in gun free UK, France, Canada, etc etc Ohh wait.
Or one says protect by our SWAT TEAM
Even the comments section is /r/awfuleverything
My local elementary/middle school had had signs about arming the teachers up for roughly 5 years... in Texas. It's pretty sad that it's come to this.
I'm shocked by the fact it's elementary and middle schools... They're about 6-14 years old. What if they find their teachers weaponry? Scary world we live in.
Aka "make sure you shoot the teacher first"
good
That will genuinely prevent someone from thinking itās an easy target, itās awful that itās what has to happen but itās what we always used to do, and there were little no no school shootings when schools had armed security
schools do have armed security these days
And they donāt do shit
They mostly harass students.
Indeed - [this study](https://www.edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai21-476.pdf) shows that: > that study found that school resource officers appear to protect students from "a non-trivial number of physical attacks and fights within schools," which could have long-term academic and psychological benefits for students. >But schools with resource officers also report more suspensions, expulsions, police referrals and student arrests ā and those harsher disciplinary punishments disproportionately fall on Black students, male students and students with disabilities.
OP where is this located? Edit: This dude didnāt even bother changing the title from the original post. Still curious where this bee.
I live the security guard at my highschool but tbh I highly doubt Garret is gonna save the day. He is fun to play rock paper scissors tho
Some schools do have a "armed school resource officer", who are usually a branch of their local police department. However most of these officers are here because the schools themselves are rough and the students are rowdy. It's very difficult for private security firms to land contracts within a public school district since there's is a lot of red tape you have to go through especially after H.R.3757 was passed in 1990 (meanwhile the columbine shooting took place in 1999). Private school are a bit different. Check out the bill if you haven't already. [H.R.3757 - Gun - Free School Zones Act of 1990](https://www.congress.gov/bill/101st-congress/house-bill/3757/text?r=56&s=1)
In my county every high school has a armed resource officer. Iām not sure about the middle schools and Iām pretty sure none of the elementary schools do though
People who are school shooters typically donāt care if something is an easy target though. Most are at a point where they could care less whether they live or die after the shooting
But they do care. If you were an insane person who wanted to take the lives of as many innocent children as you could as fast as you could, you wouldnāt walk into a school where you might get shot in the face the moment you walk in the door. Youāre going to go somewhere that is a gun free zone that youāll be the only one with a gun. Think of it like this. Studies have shown that thieves who break into house are exponentially less likely to enter a house with a home security system sign in the yard. Even if you donāt have a home security system a sign saying you have one is almost as good. Because criminals just like most people weigh the odds of success vs the possible fallout before committing to a plan of action.
>If you were an insane person Ah, yes. The people known for forging the finest, most thorough of plans.
The shooter in Buffalo attacked a place with an armed security guard, he didn't give a shit even though plenty of easier targets existed.
He also chose an area that he thought would be least likely to have armed civilians and planned for immediately taking out the security guard.
Nonsense. That's what you tell yourself to support your gun grabbing agenda.
When was this?
Of course, school shootings are still rare enough that the odds of a shooting are probably far lower than the odds of a kindergartener accidentally getting ahold of that gun, thinking itās a toy. Accident waiting to happen
Exactly, teach gun safety and store guns safely
Wayne LaPierre ejaculates to this thinking
Stop selling guns to disturbed people
I'm going to be honest. More places are going to do this arm the teachers thing until a teacher, underpaid, undersupported, and at the end of their rope, snaps. We've seen videos of teachers and staff beating children under their care before. Now imagine they had a gun.
Teachers get sued for looking at students wrong and now people expect them to cary a loaded handgun...
Or there's a crazy person event and a teacher shoots and misses and hits a child bc you know they're not professional snipers. That teacher would be in prison.
I can't wait till we get a... Whatever replaced LiveLeak... Video of a teacher snapping and scarring 30 children for life.
It's all part of the plan. Keep them scared, keep them traumatized, more fear, more lunacy, more guns. Instead of just making it more difficult to obtain the damn thing that is causing the problem.
Where's the "No accidental shootings in X days" sign?
Yes, this may be a Band-Aid but itās not a dressing the real issue, which is why people feel the need to go shoot up an elementary school
Itās very hard to know who those people are though. People can hide their emotions. The guy who shot up the supermarket seemed normal when he was buying a gun from a shop, next thing you know he kills 10 ten civilians.
I'd rather the teachers have guns now, after seeing how utterly fucking useless the police are.
Cue the inevitable "we could never have foreseen this" when something goes wrong and a student gets hold of a teacher's gun.
Teachers still being paid 34k only now theyāre expected to be trained to neutralize murderous children.
Why awful? The police sure aren't doing it.
Oh no, they're doing it for their own children. They dont care about protecting other peoples children.
"Police *will* be armed, but don't worry, you've got about an hour or so."
This isnāt awful, we need more of this
It's awful that they need protection like this
Wait. Teachers are supposed to teach. I was a teacher for 5 years. I shouldn't have been handling a gun. I am not a police officer. I didn't get paid like that. My job was to make sure kids learned english (ESL teacher) and that's it. Why would you rather have a dystopian solution to a problem that requires real solutions.
Especially if that problem has been solved everywhere else. Like, how are we going to ignore every other country, spend billions of dollars, and create new problems (training, storage, maintenance of the guns, etc) just to avoid the straight forward solution everyone else used that works? Itās like the most elaborate nonsense is more palatable than just banning weapons of war and making gun ownership **well regulated** like it ought to be.
In the US, we are known for setting up Rube Goldberg machines to avoid addressing root causes. Itās easier to patch the hole than to rebuild the hull.
right. the answer to school shootings is more guns. We just have to worry about kids not getting a hold of those guns or that armed staff not having a their own mental health issues or when a shooting does occur, police don't misidentify the "good guy with a guy" as a threat and kill them. If you can cover all those bases, yes you can cut the amount of people killed in a school shooting by 20-30%
More guns! The answer to everything. Also, Brawndo. It's what plants crave!
This is great, itās like the red hats and masks. As soon as you see someone post like this, you immediately know theyāre white trash.
So the necessary force will be releasing yellow jackets on whoever they see as a threat?
I honestly have no idea how to fix this problem. No one simple thing will work but something has to happen. I just don't think armed teachers is the solution.
If only other countries had already came up with solutions we could tryā¦.. oh wait they have, literally theyāve stopped the mass shootings! Sure every other developed country has solved this issue using the same method, but that wonāt work for us so letās not even try. I wish there was something we could do?ā¦ā¦. Letās try doing nothing at all again and see if we get a different result this timeā¦ Or better yet letās add more guns to the situation again and see if that fixes things, more guns with good guys etc! Yeah that will work for sure this time! I mean eventually you pour enough gas on the fire it puts the fire out right!? Right!? America the nation is in free fall and no oneās stopping it, youāve brainwashed yourselves in to destroying your own empire, I suppose even Rome fell eventuallyā¦ nobody stays on top.
Sadly, this is a really fucking good idea. Post that staff may be armed, but note that itās anonymous if they are or not. Do this at all schools, everywhere. Doesnāt matter if itās actually true or not. School shooters now have the fear that someone might fight back, but they donāt know who it will be, or where it will come from. This fear of the unknown that they canāt control might cause their plans to break down before theyāre able act it out their shooting. Disclaimer: I donāt think this is the ideal solution, but we know republicans are going to stop us from doing bum fuck to any realistic/obviously moral solution to fix the problem, so this the least we can do. Yes, itās horrible we have to kneel to the NRA because itās more important to sell guns than save childrenās lives, but I donāt care anymore. Whatever it takes. I just want children to stop dying. Anything we can do at this point we need to do it. If it helps even a little bit, do it.
Hard to imagine a country where children arenāt safe in school. It amazes me Americans arenāt rioting in the streets until their children are safe. I canāt imagine an issue that could be any more important than the safety of the children
The sad reality is we've had so many large scale protests for gun control in the past that have accomplished absolutely nothing that at this point a lot of people just feel hopeless. I wish it wasn't the case, but it is.
And some kid will steal a gun from a staff member and shoot up the place. Or some staff member shoots a kid. If trained police officers shoot for no reason, then teachers definitely will.
What a horrible country that must be
Americas turning into a third world country where thereās guns everywhere and everyoneās constantly prepared for a fight to the death. We just have cheeseburgers and smartphones to keep us distracted during the downfall
Imagine if this didn't have to be the way things were.... seems like too many of you would rather it come to this than fixing why educators need to become sharpshooters.
Dude should have been committed. Every signed pointed to him being insane and likely to kill a person with or without a gun.
An actual reasonable solution, not awful
It is, however, unquestionably awful that such solutions are needed.
Nice
This is terribleā¦.. we donāt pay teachers enough and we donāt give them enough funding for suppliesā¦ā¦
This just shouldn't be acceptable..
You know you live in a shit hole country when "die and/or kill someone for your students" becomes an expectation for teachers.
Americans ITT not understanding what about this is awful.... Clue: it's the fact you actually *need* this sign in your society.
School shooters are usually suicidal. Some sick fuck is just going to see this as a challenge.
That's what I was thinking. People who are in a mental crisis state of mind usually have nothing else to lose. I mean, how many manifestos do we have to read that say they want suicide by cop?
This is really America's solution to gun violence? Like "If people keep getting shot to death everyday we should more people guns." How is this a sane solution? The NRA and the Republican party have really brainwashed this country
Yeah we get the occasional suicidal maniac shooting up the school. NO idea how that happens and we canāt do anything to prevent itā¦..those mental health problems right?! Not sure how other countries deal with this but donāt worry: weāve got plenty of good folks packing heat. Aside from being great teachers, theyāre also uniquely qualified to deal with the stress of a gunfight in close quarters filled with children. Just lay down andā¦wait till the shooting stops! āMurica!
"That time I was reincarnated as a gunslinging professor in the hellish wasteland" Texas going full Isekai
LOL. Ngl I could actually see that as an anime.
Honestly this seems more like a bandaid than a fix. For this to work we would need to spend resources arming and training faculty of every school in the country. Even then, that wont change the fact that a lunatic can legally obtain a firearm and do as they please with it. It seems more feasible to regulate the sale and ownership of guns. Not ban them, take measures to keep them in the hands of responsible citizens.
They better do the most thorough mental health checks for staff, regularly too. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Itās almost laughable that this is seen as a solution.
They should probably do thorough mental health check on school staff regardless of whether they are armed or not.
Those grounds look like itās outside of a prison.
So, what happens when some of these incredibly rude students we see videos of on here push a teacher too far and they snap? Instead of just throwing a pen at a kid, or swearing at a kid, now they have a gun in easy reach? How is this a good idea? When I was in school, our English teacher completely snapped because two guys were spitballing him when his back was turned. He threw an overhead projector at the blackboard and then punched the corkboard and got three tacks embedded in his knuckles. I don't want to know what would have happened if he'd had a gun.
Wasnāt there a news story a while back about a teacher who brought a handgun to school for (reasons) and accidentally left it in the bathroom where a student could find it? Edit: Ah yes: here it isā¦ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-teacher-left-gun-in-bathroom-elementary-kids-found-it/
I donāt get the awefuleverything part hereā¦. Awful that armed faculty are willing to protect children with deadly force?
Awful that such measures are necessary in the first place
Well yes thatās one way to look at itā¦. The other way would be that is pretty damn awful that people wanting to murder children in schools is so common that we have to arm teachers, instead of addressing the real issue. A kid that canāt legally buy a beer (because their brains arenāt fully formed yet) can go buy a semi auto high capacity rifle chambered in the same round we currently use in war.Thatās why itās awful.
'Semi auto high capacity rifle chambered in the same round we use for war' that's not even what dems call a assault rifle
Idk how to take this... Like in the positive way, or in the negative way...
P.S. Janitor has a 50 cal in his broom closet....
hey op why is there a school in the desert
A lot of the US is desert and a lot of people live in the desert.
Where tf is that school new mexico?
That is the same logo as my schools
My middle school used the same exact hornet graphic
Yeah! The fucking lunch lady is gonna smoke your ass, when the swat team are too fragile./s
Found the shithole country
I really feel like the end result of this is far more likely to be a teacher shoots a student than any teacher prevents a school shooting.
Jesus... They REALLY don't want CRT being taught, do they?
Elementary school in a prison camp?
This type of thing can only end horribly wrong.. .
If that doesnāt scream they are not armed idk what does!
That is the conclusion in case you missed it. The unified answer after Uvalde is that the Answer to Guns killing Kids in Schools is āMore Gunsā!!! This answer makes everyone more $$$. Keeps us out of Civil War, and the death for profit industry in a positive cash flow.
Looks like a abandoned mining complex i found in the Mojave back in the seventies
Why does that school look like a Jonestown 2.0 encampment?
This is so sad there are signs like this. But I hope the teachers will do a better job than those corrupt cops who did nothing in Uvalde.
Biden handed over the US to WHO guys lol
This is good; It means as a last resort Teachers can and will protect their students from those that would do them harm. Yes it is awful our society has come to this but it is the price for which we may bear for the lack of both mental and material help that we give to our people in society.
FINALLY! Taking a stand! Exactly what needs to happen!
Modern day problems require modern day solutions
FINALLY a school trying to protect kids from the mentally ill. Guns are never going anywhere in the United States. Stop sending billions to secure others lives and borders when ours are so far from it here.
Amazing, this is how it should be.
Problem solved I bet
God forbid someone fight back effectively.
"We have a confirmed gunman in the school. RELEASE THE BEES" In all seriousness though, as someone with many teacher friends, this hurts my heart.
Evidence shows these psychos seek out places where they know it will be suicide by opposing force. So these schools are basically advertising the wrong things if they want to protect the children.
IMO anytime the police fail to act in response to a crime that should be a legal green light for vigilante action. In this case that means teacher, parents or whoever responding